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India (150/5) defeat Pakistan (146) by 5 wickets in thrilling encounter to clinch Asia Cup 2025 title

IAJ said:
Never a complete batting innings. Today they got a decent start and then collapsed. Other times they have the usual bad start and then lower order just chips in.

After today’s start they required a sensible approach, could easily have got to 170. Not saying that is a good score but then you at least give yourself a chance.

They are still in it, but they have to bowl and field out of their skins and we need a Pakistani like collapse by India🤭
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It's a 10 or 9 wicket win loading imo.
 
There was swing and seam,ball was moving in the first 4 overs when Bumrah and Dube bowled.
If Shaheen gets the same amount of movement, then our openers need to be careful, no complacency just because it’s a small target.
 
At worst, Pak should've ended with 160-165

But this is just bizarre

That said, Pak is not out of it by any means. If they get Abhishek for nothing. India's batting too hasnt been in that great form so it would be match on..

Pak need Ind 45/3 in PP and then we have a game
 
rickroll said:
Guys please relax, we are still winning this! I think it is obvious that the ball is not coming on to the bat later in the innings. It will be difficult for the Indians to bat in their innings and our spinners should choke them. The pitch does not seem to be easy to play on and that explains the mistimed shots. Watch the Indians also struggle in their innings.
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Don’t care if India win or lose. But wanted to see some blood. Guess that dint happen.
 
Lost golden opportunity. India was under pressure 180 was easy . Anyways it was expected when you playing with only 2 batters .
 
Savak said:
Even Indian batsmen with their power striking abilities have the game awareness and iq to adapt their games when a bowler is bowling well or if the wicket is not conducive to stroke play. Even they will happily score 40 of the last 5 overs and ensure they bat out the full overs.

There is just too much difference in all facets of the game between the two sides.
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They are a very methodical team.

There's day and light between them and us currently.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
I guess in retrospection this is why Fakhar and Farhan batted for 100 runs to get this team to here.

But to be fair Babar and Rizwan weren't doing much different.

If the entire team is dependent on openers then we are back to square one.

Unpopular opinion but this Asia Cup has shown Babar and Rizwan weren't the actual problem.
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Well didnt we told u this?
 
Keep Fakhar & Farhan after this and then fire the rest of the team. They shouldn’t earn a single penny from Cricket after this shocking performance.
 
Pakistan's best hope is Shaheen having a night out. Even that shouldn't excuse Pakistan collapse. You should look at flaws even when you win matches. Not just when you lose matches.
 
The CricInfo win predictor shows 31% to Pakistan and that is being very generous
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Pakistan's best hope is Shaheen having a night out. Even that shouldn't excuse Pakistan collapse. You should look at flaws even when you win matches. Not just when you lose matches.
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India not giving this match away even if India at 40/4. They were under pressure . Whole momentum shifted
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
That’s like asking a thief, if he is one.

Not implying that Bangladeshis are thief , just that he is pretending to be an Indian, why would he speak the truth.
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We don't have any way to verify. People to this day doubt I'm a dual citizen despite me being honest about it as much as humanely possible even telling things about Sydney a casual traveller would not know.

But they want me to show my passport, pictures and all that for proof.

And If I did then they'd instantly cyberbully me as a result.

Hence they can continue calling me a wannabee even though I even said that if I wasnt a dual citizen, I still like aussie team. They are still my 2nd favourite team.

Only reason I hated Pak was due to ba/riz. This entire tournament i have supported PK even when theyve been mauled by India?

That's why these things just cannot be verified? How is he logically suppose to prove it to you without getting personal?

The only valid point is that its weird that an indian poster would hate India that much. That's the only valid claim you have.
 
Boyka said:
WTH. From 113-1 🤣. This Indian team is not even that good, what’s with these collapses all the time. Too many passengers
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Yes 35 wins in 38 games. The team must be completely average. I agree.

Also India is not missing any key players at all.
 
People will start shouting Babar and Riz name now but they were part of the same problem.

Our middle overs doesn't have batsmen to stick around and are hacks or too slow for T20 cricket.

You can call back Babar and Riz but you can't call them back at the expense of Haris or Saim or anyone else.

They will also stall the innings and put incredible pressure on rest of team to chase totals.

You can choose Babar and Riz for Farhan and Fakhar but it's all the same either way.
 
PCB might have to throw players from B category central contracts as well lol
 
Savak said:
Even Indian batsmen with their power striking abilities have the game awareness and iq to adapt their games when a bowler is bowling well or if the wicket is not conducive to stroke play. Even they will happily score 40 of the last 5 overs and ensure they bat out the full overs.

There is just too much difference in all facets of the game between the two sides.
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Ian smith criticized this kamikhaze approach of pakistan without Common sense in NZ.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
I am from India but andhbhakhts and chomus who get their tashreefs handed out to them regularly and lack skills to debate with me think I am from either Pakistan or Bangladesh. :yk :inti
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No Indian will ever laugh at their own citizens killed by terrorists, celebrate Indian soldiers killed and mock and put down India and Indian player in every single post

Even the lowest of low IQ Indian and Pak fans wont believe you are Indian. If you believe you are fooling anyone, I cannot but pity you. You are mocked not just on this forum, but across the internet on multiple sites like reddit and Australian sites
 
So Pakistan collapsed though not from the top today, team needs a revamp surely Agha is a liability
 
Pakistan team don't deserve to play with top 5 teams..they should only play with lower ranked teams and associate nations. There is no match when pakistan play top rank team. Once again it's once sided match
 
Major said:
Oh for gods sakes stop this haris defence. He is the most garbage player to have ever played.


I called it before asia cup, this will be the last time haris will play for pakistan as he was gonna get exposed
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For all the experiments we have done since Agha was made captain in January , Only Farhan has shown that he belongs. Reason for that is his continued hard work in domestic arena. It's evidence that if you back your domestic performers , you can field a decent team. We put our misplaced trust in PSL hacks , who bash minnow level bowlers on Phatta Wickets and expect they will do same against top quality players
 
Asif321 said:
Lost golden opportunity. India was under pressure 180 was easy . Anyways it was expected when you playing with only 2 batters .
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Shahid Afridi said after indias super 4 win against India that this Indian batting line would have also scored over 200
 
Dr_Bassim said:
I guess in retrospection this is why Fakhar and Farhan batted for 100 runs to get this team to here.

But to be fair Babar and Rizwan weren't doing much different.

If the entire team is dependent on openers then we are back to square one.

Unpopular opinion but this Asia Cup has shown Babar and Rizwan weren't the actual problem.
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Huge respect doc saab for acknowledging that. This was our point throughout
 
Pakistan must have had a big target in mind because middle order came hitting hard. Normally they rotate strike and build innings. That big target on mind did the trick I believe.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
People will start shouting Babar and Riz name now but they were part of the same problem.

Our middle overs doesn't have batsmen to stick around and are hacks or too slow for T20 cricket.

You can call back Babar and Riz but you can't call them back at the expense of Haris or Saim or anyone else.

They will also stall the innings and put incredible pressure on rest of team to chase totals.

You can choose Babar and Riz for Farhan and Fakhar but it's all the same either way.
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You are reading too much into this match.

In the other matches the openers failed and middle order scraped a score.
 
Unpopular opinion but I think Saud Shakeel should have been in the team.

He is an excellent player of spin and can play T20 cricket to some degree of success
 
I think there is a place for Babar in the team. Throw Salman garbage out. Make Shaheen the captain. Faheem and Talat need to go as well. Muhammad Waseem should be in this team as a third bowler and persist with Hassan Nawaz. Saim needs to go back and work on his batting
 
Dr_Bassim said:
People will start shouting Babar and Riz name now but they were part of the same problem.

Our middle overs doesn't have batsmen to stick around and are hacks or too slow for T20 cricket.

You can call back Babar and Riz but you can't call them back at the expense of Haris or Saim or anyone else.

They will also stall the innings and put incredible pressure on rest of team to chase totals.

You can choose Babar and Riz for Farhan and Fakhar but it's all the same either way.
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I dont get this part. Are you saying Babar/ Riz are the same as Farhan/ Fakhar? What Farhan/ Fakhar did today, Babar/ Riz couldnt have pulled that off, no sir.
 
In the stadium, ball was clearly stopping and they just kept swinging the bat.

Couldn’t adjust to the pace of the pitch and gifted wickets, this was more Pakistan than anything India.
 
Major said:
Fakhar? Really fakhar is the issue here?
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our only realistic chance for scoring 180+ was either Farhan or Fakhar scoring big 70-80 , both failed ---- Fakhar is a very experienced batsman, he hasn't been scoring big.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
I have yet to see @Bhaag Viru Bhaag celebrate Indian wins but that's all you can accuse him of.

I barely celebrate Pakistan wins either.

Doesn't make me any less Pakistani.
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T20 wins have to be taken with a pinch of salt. I think it is just for banter some Indian fans celebrate. Overall i don't think anyone cares about these wins. This is a rubbish format. I don't really care if India sucks in this format. Test is where i want India to get good at.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Pakistan's best hope is Shaheen having a night out. Even that shouldn't excuse Pakistan collapse. You should look at flaws even when you win matches. Not just when you lose matches.
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They don't have the skills to match the top teams..this bunch of idiots deserve to play with lower ranked teams. There should be two tier system in cricket so make matches more interesting. And it should be reviewed after 6 months where the ranking stands
 
Cryin Out Loud said:
I dont get this part. Are you saying Babar/ Riz are the same as Farhan/ Fakhar? What Farhan/ Fakhar did today, Babar/ Riz couldnt have pulled that off, no sir.
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They would have taken 15 overs to get to 120-0 but I don't see how it would have changed the match any other way if the rest of the team collapses.
 
In the last 10+ innings, I have seen Haris only score runs against BD. That is most likely because Haris has good experience in BPL.
 
Well done Farhan and Fakhar, only thing that could be said against Fakhar at a push is he could have stayed longer other than that they really did bat well and got us in a great position. 3-11 scored us 30 odd runs. Harris, Ayub, Agha, Talat and Faheem lost us this match. Well done boys.
 
Cryin Out Loud said:
I dont get this part. Are you saying Babar/ Riz are the same as Farhan/ Fakhar? What Farhan/ Fakhar did today, Babar/ Riz couldnt have pulled that off, no sir.
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Fakhar was not really good today apart from some sixes. He was swishing in the air most of the time. Even Farhan for first 3 overs was siwshing in air. But atleast he had betterball sense. Fakhr innings was slightly better than Shaheen's knocks in this Asia cup. Pretty unconvincing.
 
When they sent Saim Ayoub at no..3 that's where the pressure starts building. A player who got 4 ducks in one tournament is still playing.this thing can only happen in pakistan
 
Kianig89 said:
No Handshakes and India to win 3-0 with trophy , Poor Naqvi must be reeling
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Hold on, brother, this match isn’t over yet. If Pakistan get Abhishek’s wicket early, the other batsmen might drag.
But our batting depth is solid, we are definitely in the driving seat. Still, anything can happen in T20 cricket
 
Sachin fan said:
No Indian will ever laugh at their own citizens killed by terrorists, celebrate Indian soldiers killed and mock and put down India and Indian player in every single post
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Big claims. Now back it up. Show the posts where I mocked India and celebrate Indian soldiers getting killed. See it is easy to say these things. Now prove it. I am waiting...
Sachin fan said:
Even the lowest of low IQ Indian and Pak fans wont believe you are Indian. If you believe you are fooling anyone, I cannot but pity you. You are mocked not just on this forum, but across the internet on multiple sites like reddit and Australian sites
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Oh, so I am popular even on Reddit? Would like to see such stuff.

As I said earlier, you are an alt of an old poster who got his behind handed out to him by me. You can keep crying and repeat the same stuff over and over again but when I ask guys like you to back it up. You run away like a scared chicken. :inti
 
kron said:
Don’t care if India win or lose. But wanted to see some blood. Guess that dint happen.
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We will see blood when Shaheen takes early wickets and puts the Indians under pressure. Abhishek is due a failure and the Indian batting line up these days seems to be Abhishek or bust. We will enjoy watching the Indians crumble as mental midgets.
 
BDfanforever said:
In the last 10+ innings, I have seen Haris only score runs against BD. That is most likely because Haris has good experience in BPL.
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He is a guy who has about dozens of weaknesses. You just have to use it. He failed in all 3 innings in Bangladesh right?
 
DeadlyVenom said:
You are reading too much into this match.

In the other matches the openers failed and middle order scraped a score.
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We didn’t learn from the last game, otherwise the Batting is in a much better place. The issue here was Talat being picked ahead of Nawaz, and both Fahim/Nawaz batting way too low. Agha really should be a last resort accumulator in the lower order but not be batting ahead of Harris, Mo. Nawaz, or Fahim. Agha shouldn’t be batting higher then no.7/8, we’ve seen he hasn’t minded doing this previously but his ego got dented by unfair criticisms of this new team.

All is not lost yet and the players shouldn’t lose hope.
 
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