India (171/7) hand a crushing defeat to England (103) by 68 runs to secure their spot in the finals of the ICC T20 World Cup 2024

[BouncerGuy]

This is going to be a repeat of 2022 world cup semi-final?

India has a perfect chance to take a revenge.

 

[Unbiased-Fan]

Indians are keen to take revenge of last semifinals. They are favorites this time due to Bumrah and Kuldeep. Hopefully rain don't spoil the party

India key points :-
- Virat Kohli will definitely prove his worth
- Rohit is back in form
- Surya loves to play against England
- Bumrah and Kuldeep
- Hardik the clutch Pandya

Threats for India :-
- Phil Salt is mystery for India, new players always play well against India
- Adil Rashid's clever bowling
- Mark Wood's pace for middle order

Key Battles
- Bumrah vs Buttler
- Rashid vs Kohli
- Rohit vs Archer
- Kuldeep vs England middle Order

 

[Kaptan]

England batsmen are flat track bullies, they are not Aussies. They look completely baffled once the ball starts spinning. If the track behaves like how it's expected to behave, even washed up Jadeja can run through this batting line-up.

 

[followed]

I would like Virat to bat like babar and rizwan.
Hopefully he scores 40 off 38 balls.
I don't want him to fail so many times.

 

[globetrotter]

As per weather report, 80% prediction of rain wash out……

In India Vs.Aus match, 50% prediction of rain was there, but still we saw full match

 

[Devadwal]

Yes it's raining continuously and next 48 hour weather is not good either .

Chance of game happened is very rare even we have total 7 hour and 20 minutes to complete the game

Drainage system is not great either so most likely its a washout game .

 

[Arajit]

Rohit innings masked Ind victory and all the Ind supporters are going ecstatic. Take out his innings and Ind scored 110 in 80 balls. Pant made run a ball 15 which had a 6 and 4. In was 125-2 in 11 overs and they made 80 in 9 overs with 8 wkts remaining. Ind was 160 in 14 overs when Sky got out. So they scored 45 runs in 6 overs with 6 wkts remaining. Do you see the flaw in this?? If Rohit fails tomorrow and Sky fails as well - Ind will struggle to get to 150. Will be just like the 2023 ODI WC final. Once Rohit got out - Ind froze and batted meekly. So its Rohit/Sky or bust tomorrow for Ind

It can't be compared like this, Both the pitches are different. In Aus match hitting with the new ball was easy, not with 14+ Old Ball, Australia too were going good till 14, and failed thereafter isnspite of having 5+ wiickets.

In Guyana 150 will be winning score here. Any IND or ENG if get 150+ while batting first they will be favorites to win consiodering its a KO match.

Here you are right In Guyana All other indian batters have to bat out of their skin to reach 150 (I doubt if they can do it), if Rohit and Sky fail.
It wont be easy for Eng either with the conditions favouring spin and Slower ball specialists.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

Indians are keen to take revenge of last semifinals. They are favorites this time due to Bumrah and Kuldeep. Hopefully rain don't spoil the party

India key points :-
- Virat Kohli will definitely prove his worth
- Rohit is back in form
- Surya loves to play against England
- Bumrah and Kuldeep
- Hardik the clutch Pandya

Threats for India :-
- Phil Salt is mystery for India, new players always play well against India
- Adil Rashid's clever bowling
- Mark Wood's pace for middle order

Key Battles
- Bumrah vs Buttler
- Rashid vs Kohli
- Rohit vs Archer
- Kuldeep vs England middle Order

Wood won't even be selected for playing XI.
Will Kohli survive till Adil Comes to bowl ?

 

[FearlessRoar]

'This England side don't fear India': Hussain, Atherton's cold Adelaide reminder in daring T20WC semifinal prediction​

Team India is all set to keep their unbeaten record in the ongoing 2024 T20 World Cup intact as the Rohit Sharma-led side aims to emulate the 2007 heroics and end the side's long-standing ICC trophy drought. However, the Men in Blue, who took down the reigning 50-over world champions in the final Super Eight game on Monday, are set to take on defending champions England in their semifinal match on Thursday in Guyana. While India head into the contest as heavy favourites given their dominating run, former England captains Nasser Hussain and Michael Atherton handed them a cold reminder of the 2022 Adelaide clash.

This isn't the first time India will be up against England in a T20 World Cup match. Overall, they have faced each other six times in the tournament's history, with India leading the rivalry 4-2. However, in the only semifinal meeting between the two, in the 2022 edition of the tournament, England had claimed a stellar 10-wicket win against India.

As Hussain and Atherton sat down to preview the two semifinal matches of the 2024 T20 World Cup, the former predicted a repeat of the 2022 Adelaide result despite England's topsy-turvy run to the penultimate round of the tournament. Hussain also backed South Africa to script a eighth-straight win in the ongoing event in their semifinal against Afghanistan, who stunned the Aussies in the Super Eight en route to their best-ever show in an ICC tournament.

“I'm going to go with South Africa and England. It is just that England will go in with the memory of that semifinal in Adelaide. As I said, this is a repeat. And I don't think this England side fear India, unless it is a very dry slow pitch. The only thing I will say about this England batting line-up, and I know Buttler and Salt just whacked the USA, when it is just holding a little bit, and the pitch is a bit slow, their batting looks vulnerable and that would play massively in India's hand. when it is just holding a little bit, and the pitch is a bit slow, their batting looks vulnerable,” he said.

When Nasser returned the question to Atherton, he predicted the same. He said: “Nasser thinks India are not good enough. And I think England are going to beat India in Guyana and South Africa will be too good for Afghanistan so it will be a South Africa versus England final.”

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/england-dont-fear-india-nasser-hussain-michael-atherton-cold-adelaide-reminder-daring-t20-world-cup-semifinal-prediction-101719371448202.html

 

[Mamoon]

Why would anyone fear a team that has won as many World Cups as Uganda in the last 10 years?

India needs to fear England. A team of proven clutch players who have won two World Cups in 3 years.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Why would anyone fear a team that has won as many World Cups as Uganda in the last 10 years?

India needs to fear England. A team of proven clutch players who have won two World Cups in 3 years.

I agree. India should fear England.
England start as heavy favourites since they are more talented than the India side, have big match pedigree and are not carrying has beens like Kohli and Jadeja.

Would be a huge upset if India wins tbh.

 

[Devadwal]

Why would anyone fear a team that has won as many World Cups as Uganda in the last 10 years?

India needs to fear England. A team of proven clutch players who have won two World Cups in 3 years.

A team who were playing cricket from century's ago has only 1 world cup and 2 Wt20

While india has 2 ICC world cup ,1 WT20 ,2 Champion trophy and 1 world series .

 

[Mamoon]

A team who were playing cricket from century's ago has only 1 world cup and 2 Wt20

While india has 2 ICC world cup ,1 WT20 ,2 Champion trophy and 1 world series .

England didn’t have the chops until Eoin Morgan changed their mentality and Jos Buttler has continued to build on that mentality.

I’m sure England fans wouldn’t have a problem admitting that. However, England not having the chops doesn’t explain why Indian players don’t have the chops even though BCCI has been holding all cricket teams by the balls for over a decade.

I guess money and power cannot buy everything.

 

[Devadwal]

Pakistan fans be like - our team are losing against First time participated minnows team so let's enjoy other team success against india.

"Bengani shadi m Abdullah deewana "

 

[Devadwal]

England didn’t have the chops until Eoin Morgan changed their mentality and Jos Buttler has continued to build on that mentality.

I’m sure England fans wouldn’t have a problem admitting that. However, England not having the chops doesn’t explain why Indian players don’t have the chops even though BCCI has been holding all cricket teams by the balls for over a decade.

I guess money and power cannot buy everything.

We have already won three icc trophy in 6 years span ( 2007,2011 ,2013)

What these( England ) kids are doing we already did .

England were most powerful team in the past yet they haven't won anything meaningful .

And we won the ICC trophy (1983) when most of people's were don't even know about cricket in india

 

[Mamoon]

We have already won three icc trophy in 6 years span ( 2007,2011 ,2013)

What these( England ) kids are doing we already did .

England were most powerful team in the past yet they haven't won anything meaningful .

And we won the ICC trophy (1983) when most of people's were don't even know about cricket in india

Those who don’t have a present or a future talk about the past.

 

[Devadwal]

Those who don’t have a present or a future talk about the past.

Those who can't even support own team because they know they are pathetic .so they support others to proved a point against india.
Irony.

 

[jnaveen1980]

It is T20 anybody can lose to anyone. SOmetimes toss plays a big role. England was overwhelmingly favorite in 2021. They got butchered by New zealand. Toss played a role. Same toss helped them against India in the semi final 2022. Hope toss works in India's favor.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Which is fairly ludicrous IMO. No reserve day is bad enough, but no tiebreaker beyond the head to head record makes it even worse. We all want to see a full game and the winning team in the final.

Even more ludicrous is there is a reserve day for the other semi final .

Everything seems to be favouring India but if there is a game England are peaking at the right time !

 

[FearlessRoar]

Paul Collingwood said on a local Indian sports media outlet:

"Honestly, I can't see India losing this time. England will need something extraordinary to beat them."

 

[mumtaz]

There's plenty of rain from 10-12 local time but nothing much thereafter. I think we'll have a full game with the 7 h 20 min scheduled time starting maybe around 12:30 - 1:00 pm.

 

[Devadwal]

Even more ludicrous is there is a reserve day for the other semi final .

Everything seems to be favouring India but if there is a game England are peaking at the right time !

If there was reserve day for 2nd Semifinals but not for 1st than people's would have complain why there was no reserve day for 1st semi but why for only india matches

Mr experts theses Semifinals and reserved days were fix before the tournament

World is not revolve around india only.

 

[globetrotter]

Those who don’t have a present or a future talk about the past.

Then you should also talk with present i.e WC 2024… no doubt India isn’t lost any match despite Kohli’s failure whereas England lost to SA

 

[jnaveen1980]

I don't want rain either. But if it rains I don't want it hurt Indias chances like India batting first and England needing to chase a small target in 10 overs. Even 100 in 10 is easy

 

[Sher Khan]

So I'm hearing their is no reserve day for this match. Severe thunderstorms are predicted and apparently India will go ahead into the final if their is no semi final.

 

[Devadwal]

I don't want rain either. But if it rains I don't want it hurt Indias chances like India batting first and England needing to chase a small target in 10 overs. Even 100 in 10 is easy

Just watched a youtube channel live from Guyana. There is no rain right now and one local groundsmen said there Will be definately match happen. Rain is comes but not all day just here and there. Drainage system is also good even after whole night Rain they will make ground ready for Play just in a hour .

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Even more ludicrous is there is a reserve day for the other semi final .

Everything seems to be favouring India but if there is a game England are peaking at the right time !

You were the one complaining during the last ODI WC, saying that this WC in India was scripted, scripted... everything going according to plan, India reached the finals, blah blah.

Now you're talking about the reserve day, which was actually decided six months ago. Yeah, BCCI predicted this six months in advance. Lol, sore losers.

 

[FearlessRoar]

CSK coach Stephen Fleming said while speaking to a sports media outlet:

"In some tournaments, he [Ravindra Jadeja] doesn't really feature for a while and then all of a sudden, he'll get a 4/16, 4/20 and score runs with the bat and that's why he is such an effective player in your side."

"India have got Axar Patel working away too. You can combine the two and get a pretty good result. You've just got to make sure that in terms of an ego point of view during those middle overs, having someone doing the same skillset is not having an impact on either of them. You've got to make sure the man management is pretty sound. But you can't count Jadeja out. When the conditions are right, the pace that he bowls is spot on, he is gonna cause problems.''

"Sometimes you've just got to wait a little longer and hang tight for your bowlers. Jadeja towards the backend of the tournament."

 

[Markhor]

I agree. India should fear England.
England start as heavy favourites since they are more talented than the India side, have big match pedigree and are not carrying has beens like Kohli and Jadeja.

Would be a huge upset if India wins tbh.

Come on Nik if India cannot beat England in Guyana (may as well play in subcontinent) then it's time for BCCI to disband the cricket team and play gulli danda.

There was no Bumrah or Kuldeep in the 2022 SF either.

Not trying to reverse jinx, just looking at it realistically.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

India are heavy favourites but I hope our brothers from Azad Kashmir run rings around them.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Rohit Sharma (India Captain) pre-match Press Conference - 26th June 2024

[Reporter:]

In the pre-match, pre-departure press conference, you had spoken about the four spinners and the confidentiality behind it. Is it now the time to reveal the trump card? Why did you say you are bringing 4 spinners?

[Rohit Sharma:]

Teams bring 5 seamers also – that doesn’t mean they will play 5 seamers.

[Reporter:]

But you had said there is a secret behind it.

[Rohit Sharma:]

There is no secret. We have played 3 spinners no; in New York we were playing 2 spinners. Here we are playing 3 spinners. So, if we will feel it necessary to play 4 spinners then we will play. But we will see. We will assess. Till now, we have not seen the pitch properly. It was covered for a long time. So now there is rolling going on - So we will assess, we will see what is the right combination.

[Reporter:]

Rohit, it's a repeat of the last T20 World Cup semi-final. For you as captain as well as for the team, what has changed from then, from 2022 to 2024?

[Rohit Sharma:]

Honestly, I mean, not a lot has changed because, see, when you want to approach, whenever you approach an international game and this being ICC T20 World Cup, we’ve tried to do play with very free mind in the last two or three years that we've played our T20 cricket and even the ODI cricket as well. So not a lot has changed as such. It all depends on basically what the condition has to offer. We saw throughout this tournament; the conditions had its own challenges. New York was completely different. And now we've come here in West Indies, it's been totally different. And we want to do that, we want to be a smart cricket team, we want to assess and play, like when we played the last game and even before that as well, the moment we realise it's a good pitch, we want to play the way we play. And that is up for all you guys to see how we want to play. And I have tried and kept things very simple for myself personally as well and also for the team because there is a lot of cricket being played in that group. These guys have played a lot of cricket, a lot of high-pressure games as well. So, there is not much that you need to discuss as such. You got to try and give them the role clarity, which I think we have done pretty well, very clearly as well. And then obviously we want to rely on them making good decisions on the field. You don't want to keep talking to them about - you got to do things differently and all of that. Of course, you have to have an open mind when you want to do things, but as much as the team is concerned and I'm concerned, I think our priority was to keep things very simple and give them the freedom that you all want playing this format. And everyone knows in the squad that they have to get the job done, but the job getting done has to be done considering various factors. And I thought throughout this tournament we have done that extremely well so I don't think we need to change what we did in 2022 to 2024 - now obviously everyone understands what they need to do. And we back them to make those decisions on the field and rely on what they feel at that particular moment what they want to do.

[Reporter:]

Rohit, sometimes when a game gets curtailed, the difference between the teams comes down a bit, it becomes a bit of a shootout. So, if it rains and there is a bit of a rain threat tomorrow, so does that bother you in any way that it can become slightly difficult if it rains and it becomes a shorter game? And how do you plan to go about it?

[Rohit Sharma:]

Look I think we want to come here thinking that it is going to be a 40-over game. We don't want to think it's going to be a shortened game. But if it does, we will change whatever we need to change in terms of strategy, combinations, or whatever it is. Whatever we think is possibly the best chance for us to win the game. So, we will be prepared for all kind of scenarios. It's not like it's not happened before. It has happened before as well. In the last T20 World Cup, there was a shortened game as well against Bangladesh. So, all those things happens and we will come tomorrow here and see what the scenario is. But ideally, for everyone, it'll be nice to have a 40-over game. But again, we'll be ready to adapt to whatever is there in front of us.

[Reporter:]

Captain, all the best for the game. A lot of former players have spoken about the fear of failure factor in the Indian team. Is there actually a fear of failure, or is it just that in the semifinals and finals, just we've been unlucky?

[Rohit Sharma:]

It's a bit of both. See, we want to treat this game as another game that we have played in this tournament. We don't want to think about what lies ahead and what is the context of the game and all of that. Everyone knows in the back of their mind it's a semi-final. But you don't want to keep talking about it again and again and again. And not to think about what has happened in the past. I think we are, all of us, the entire group is in good frame of mind. We are playing well as a team, enjoying each other's company, enjoying each other's success at times as well. I think it's important to just carry on that, carry on from what we've been doing in this tournament. Yes, we've been put under pressure in certain games during this tournament as well, but I thought we responded pretty well. And that is probably because we're not thinking too far ahead. And again, tomorrow for us, thinking too far ahead, which is the finals, we don't want to think about all of that. It's a knockout game. We want to think about how well we can play and what we can do as a team for us to achieve the result that we are looking for. Sometimes if you think too much, sometimes you then will not be able to make the decisions that you want to make on the field. So, I think it's important that we stay clear in our mind what we want to do. We have had enough conversations with the players, what is expected out of each one of us. So, it's time now to just rely on the individual instinct and then take the game forward.

[Reporter:]

Rohit, it’s very unlikely that someone like Virat hasn't got the big runs which he usually gets. But every time he's tried to get out, he's got out, he's just tried to push the needle in the powerplay. Someone like Rishabh Pant has got out twice trying to play the reverse sweep. Is that a particular template as a team management you want them to keep playing which may be against the grain but you want them to keep playing and keep putting the foot on the accelerator so that no matter how many wickets you lose even in the powerplay, everybody will go and try and press the accelerator despite the number of wickets which has been fallen in the powerplay rather than trying to use the safety-first net?

[Rohit Sharma:]

No, see, again, it all depends on the conditions that are there in front of us. I know it sounds very boring for me to talk about conditions, conditions, because that do matter a lot. Because in New York, we saw what the winning score was. So there, for us to think, no, we'll go and spin it, we'll do this, we'll do that. It is not sensible. So, we want to be a smart cricket team. We don't want to just talk in one language, which is to just go and swing the bat. I think it is important for us to understand what conditions are in front of us and what we have to do. And I have spoken about experience in this group, and we rely on that experience from each player to go out and make that decision, whether it is playing the reverse sweep, whether it is bowling a yorker, whether it is bowling a bouncer. We rely on those individuals to make that decision.

As a captain, coach, once the game is started, there is hardly you need to talk about what you need to do. Yes, certain aspect of the game you can discuss, but not a whole lot where you are sitting there and planning and stuff like that. Because obviously, the rules are there. It's quite strict. There is a possibility if you get three warnings, you will lose five runs. And, the five-fielder rule as well, which is - if you are overshot, one more extra fielder comes inside. All of that is there. So, you don't need to discuss too much when the game is on. We discuss a lot of stuff outside of it. Today we had a training session. We're discussing. We're talking to the players, what is expected out of them.

But again, like you said, it is all about feeling good when you are batting. I felt good last game. I was taking on my chances. So that is how it works. It worked for me last game. It might work for someone else in this game so that's how it works you have to understand that and that is where I keep saying that we rely on players to make those decision whether reverse sweep is a good option whether coming down the track and hitting straight is a good option.

So, all of that put together we rely on seven or eight batters to make the make those decisions on the field. And same goes with the bowlers as well. We've got good six quality bowlers. Shivam Dube is the seventh one who hasn't bowled yet, but he's a good bowler. , he's played a lot of first-class cricket, taken a lot of wickets. So yeah, we've got good quality amongst our group and I personally want to rely on that quality and their sharp brain to make those decisions.

[Reporter:]

Do you think it's been an advantage to India that they've always known that if they reach the semi-finals, it would be here in Guyana and also what do you make of the fact there's no reserve day for this semifinal in the event it does rain tomorrow?

[Rohit Sharma:]

I don't think it's an advantage - I mean a lot of these players have played in different types of venues. I'm sure a lot of these English cricketers have played in this venue. So, I don't see this as an advantage. At the end of the day, you've got to play good cricket to win a cricket game. That's how I look at it. And obviously, look, the overhead conditions is in nobody's control. We don't know what's going to happen. The only thing I'm worried is if the game goes on until pretty late, we have a charter flight. We might miss that flight, but that's OK. It's the ICC and the Cricket West Indies headache to get us to the next venue, but we'll focus on how we can play this game well and get the results in our favour. That's what we will be focusing on but yeah, at the end of the day two good cricket teams are going to play so it's going to be a great game.

[Reporter:]

So, I mean, being one of the best captains that has led the Indian side, what makes Rohit Sharma's dressing room different to all the previous captains and from the outside it looks very nice calm, relaxed so what is your mantra of keeping the dressing room like that?

[Rohit Sharma:]

See I think it's important to stay cool, calm - when you're in this environment, I feel. And see, something, that has worked for me over the years, staying calm and staying composed because I know that I have to make decisions on the field. So, for me, it has worked in the past where I have stayed calm and composed. But yeah, like sometimes you can lose your cool as well at the end of the day. I am a human being as well and if I see something that we have spoken of and that is not happening, sometimes you can lose your cool as well but that is completely alright. I have had chats with everyone that I am happy to let you do what you want. But at the end of the day, if I see it's at the cost of something big, I cannot let that happen. And I have to intervene and talk about it.

So, I am prepared to do all of that. But yeah, it's important. Indian cricket team goes through very high-pressure situations most of the time. Wherever we play, whether it's a bilateral series, ICC tournaments, Indian cricket team is always under pressure. That's the fact. And it's not just now. It's been since the time I started playing. I'm sure it was there before also. But since the time I started playing, it's always been like that. So, most of the guys are used to it. And then for us, it makes it more important then, to have a little bit of calmness in the dressing room while we are playing, in the hotels, and stuff like that.

There's no point thinking too much and getting overexcited about it. I think it's important that everyone stays under control. And then just take the game as it comes. Think about what lies in front of you, what decisions you have to make, what the oppositions are trying to do and all of that. That is why I keep talking about experience in our squad. And that is where experience actually helps when you have such experience in your squad. And when there is a situation which is slightly tough, or you're going through some pressure overs and things like that. You've got individuals to make those decisions there. What is the right one to do and what is the right one to take? And we completely back those decisions. That's where you try, that's where I think as a team, you can all be on one page. Because certain individuals trying to do certain things and then the last thing, we want to do is have a disagreement on that. And I don't think that's the right way. Whatever they do, you’ve got to back them to do that.

[Reporter:]

What's the big takeaway for you as batsman and the team from the victory against Australia. One big takeaway.

[Rohit Sharma:]

That there's no more Australian cricket team in this competition. No, look, I think Australia is a great side, without a doubt. That's probably the reason they have won so many championships. But for us, the last game, I think the confidence, the game we played with, with our bat, with our ball, I think that is something that we can take away with us, that confidence of bowlers executing their plans, batters going out there and doing their job. So, I think that was the big one for us and when you play a game against a quality team, top team and when you win like that, everything falling into place, that can give you so much confidence and I think this format is all about confidence. As long as you are confident in what you want to do - you are putting the right you're putting the foot in the right direction and that is what we wanted from that game we wanted to take a lot of confidence that is getting the job done, putting the runs on the board and then bowlers trying to defend that score. We know the batting lineup that Australia has. No score is safe. But for us to defend and win by 20-odd runs was a great confidence moving ahead and into this game. And personally, for me as well, I wanted to try and do something which I've been trying to do for a number of years, which is to try and put pressure on the bowlers in whatever way I can. And for me to do that was a great satisfaction at the end of the day. I was waiting for the game to end. Obviously, we wanted the result in our favour. And that is when you feel that what you did there was very satisfying.

So, for me, that was a big factor, personally, going out there and trying to put pressure on the bowlers' opposition. Because we've seen this format. When you're under pressure, that is when things can falter. And that's what you want to try and implement on the opposition. And as a batter for me to do that was very satisfying and then again it takes a lot of calculation, it takes a lot of understanding what you want to do, where you want to hit. I spoke about hitting all sides of the ground, not just one side of the ground. So, for me that is what was very satisfying.

[Reporter:]

Inzamam Ul Haq – Pakistan’s ex-captain has said that the Indian team is meddling with the ball because when Arshdeep was bowling in the15th overs, the ball was reverse swinging, which is not possible.

[Rohit Sharma:]

What should I say now about this? You are playing in such hot sun, the wicket is so dry, the ball reverses automatically. It's happening for all the teams, not only ours All the teams are reverse swinging. Sometimes, it's important to open your mind. It's important to understand what conditions you're playing in. The match is not taking place in England or Australia. That's what I'll say.

[Reporter:]

The way the Indian team is playing - after planning, don't think too much, play without any hesitation. Is that what you're seeing? Because the T20 cricket is not the type to be played carefully, the way the team is playing. What would you say as a captain?

I'm saying that T20 cricket is not played carefully, with a lot of thought put into it. You should plan and play without any hesitation. This is the template. What would you say?

[Rohit Sharma:]

Yes, it's important to play without fear. Of course. And we have created this environment in the team for the past few years. Now, we have been constantly talking about this thing for a long time. That we don't have to think much and play without thinking. This format is like that now. Individual scores and individual brilliance don't matter that much. If someone does it, it's good, but you shouldn't focus on it that I have to score 70 runs, 90, or 100 runs. I think the game that we played in Bangladesh was the perfect game. I think Bangladesh's game was perfect. Why I say that is because only one guy scored 50 runs. Rest of the team scored 20 - 30, 20 - 30, and still we reached 198. Which is a very good score. As a captain I really like that, because, I think the role we talk about – everyone played their role, and still not one or two people made 70 – 80 runs. One made 50, and then the other 6 players made 23 – 30 each and made us reach 198. That is because the role that we have given each player – he did his role in his phase. That's when we reached that score. I think this is what our team needs - if we play 8 batsmen, they will play their roles and we will get the score we want.

I see the same with bowling – it’s not any one person’s day - they might not get a chance to bowl 4 overs. He will get a chance to bowl 1 or 2 overs. He has to bowl those 1 or 2 overs in the right way. I keep talking to the players about this. I want 1 or 2 overs from you. I want those 2 tight overs. You are creating pressure here. So that the other bowler can come and take the wicket from the other end.

So, these small things, we keep talking about these things in the team. So, I think the message in the team is very clear. And it is like this, that the person who has a role, should go, and play that role. Some may have 100 runs that day, some may have 70-80 runs. But our focus is not on the individual score, it is on the role, how you will play the role.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Come on Nik if India cannot beat England in Guyana (may as well play in subcontinent) then it's time for BCCI to disband the cricket team and play gulli danda.

There was no Bumrah or Kuldeep in the 2022 SF either.

Not trying to reverse jinx, just looking at it realistically.

Because Guyana may be the one pitch in the Caribbean which has something in common with Adelaide (under lights), Dubai and Ahmedabad.

It often gets better to bat on in the 2nd innings. Even when the surface is dry. It's a bit of a lottery because the pitch is very hard to read and predict.

When you have teams which are somewhat similar in strength, if the luck of the toss goes against you, there's not much you can do.

Also, a slow pitch does no favours to Indian batting lineup either.

If India bats first, India need to make minimum 165 to offset any easing up of batting conditions and even then it may be 50:50

 

[cricketmania22]

England are confident going into this. After Adeilade’s drubbing, they feel like they have India’s number. England has started to play well, they are not invincible, but getting into their grove. India is playing well too but they always do until knockout games. Let’s see how they do.

 

[Mamoon]

Then you should also talk with present i.e WC 2024… no doubt India isn’t lost any match despite Kohli’s failure whereas England lost to SA

India's present is losing a World Cup final at home in front of a stunned 100,000 fans who were quieter than people attending a funeral.

All of this after orchestrating the whole World Cup to their preference. They took home advantage to a whole new level because each and every aspect of the World Cup was tailored to their preference.

The venues, the pitches, the dates. Each and everything was done at their command. If BCCI could have their way, they would have rigged the toss as well but they knew that ICC would have to draw the line somewhere.

Even the post match arrangements were organized without taking an Australian win into consideration. The pompous Ravi Shastri turned into a vegetable.

This is India's present.

 

[Mamoon]

Those who can't even support own team because they know they are pathetic .so they support others to proved a point against india.
Irony.

No one is supporting any other team. Pakistanis fans have made peace with the fact that their team is in very poor shape right now and they wish to see things better. Gone are the days when Pakistani fans were delusional about their own team, so I don't have the need to show them the mirror. Now it is time to expose time wake Indian fans up to the reality of their fraudulent legends.

Pathetic is subjective. Pakistan is pathetic, I agree, but I would also Indian players to that list.

Indian players have zero talent, zero skill and zero mental strength. They have achieved the bare minimum of what any team would have achieved had their board exercised the power and influence BCCI has.

Losing the 2023 World Cup Final cemented the legacy of these frauds.

 

[mominsaigol]

India's present is losing a World Cup final at home in front of a stunned 100,000 fans who were quieter than people attending a funeral.

All of this after orchestrating the whole World Cup to their preference. They took home advantage to a whole new level because each and every aspect of the World Cup was tailored to their preference.

The venues, the pitches, the dates. Each and everything was done at their command. If BCCI could have their way, they would have rigged the toss as well but they knew that ICC would have to draw the line somewhere.

Even the post match arrangements were organized without taking an Australian win into consideration. The pompous Ravi Shastri turned into a vegetable.

This is India's present.

Wc happened a year ago, pretty sure that's the definition of the past mate.

 

[Mamoon]

Wc happened a year ago, pretty sure that's the definition of the past mate.

The World Cup happened 6-7 months ago, all the players that choked are still playing. This is the first tournament after that World Cup, so I wouldn't really classify it as the past.

 

[mominsaigol]

The World Cup happened 6-7 months ago, all the players that choked are still playing. This is the first tournament after that World Cup, so I wouldn't really classify it as the past.

Thats fine but just letting you know the present means now. 6-7 months ago is still the past.

I think the word you're looking for is recent aka India recently have been, Saying their present is 2023 loss is kinda weird

 

[pratiktc]

Seems to be lot of jinx and anti jinx in this thread

Hope this will be a close match with 2 good teams.

I think Eng will be banking on Curran and Jordan to show up with ball. Curran with squareleg back trying to get Rohit to hole out on the pickup shot and Jordan to close down the India finishers.

If Eng win these 2 matchups, I reckon they will keep India to par or below par.

Another key matchup is to throw one of Salt or Bairstow as wildcards against Kuldeep to take him down like India did Zampa. If Kuldeep is neutralized Indias middle over bowling plans fall apart.

For India, the gun matchups to ace will be
1) Bumrah vs Buttler in PP
2) Kuldeep vs Bairstow/Liam in middle overs
3) Pant/SKY vs Rashid. Dube the wildcard free wkt to throw against him

 

[Devadwal]

Naw he's not delusional. He just tries to wind everyone up that's all.

Now that Pakistan is out, and India is doing well, the new trend is people supporting India to win the cup for obvious reasons so he'll go the opposite route to wind you guys up.

Apart from indian fan, no others countries fans are want that india lift the Trophy .This is a fact .

 

[Croma]

Apart from indian fan, no others countries fans are want that india lift the Trophy .This is a fact .

BY the way, does anyone have news on...
1. The weather.
2. If the pitch is new or used?

 

[Statpadder Inc]

England will win, a much better team and also more clutch.

I don't believe in this jinx nonsense, being completely honest here. They are a superior batting line up, destructive in ways we can't be because of guys like kohli and dube.

Bumrah, Pant, Kuldeep or Rohit will have to carry us

 

[Devadwal]

You've just validated Momin's point that Mamoon has successfully gotten under your skin. Best to just ignore the guy.

BY the way, does anyone have news on...
1. The weather.
2. If the pitch is new or used?

Weather is not great but little bit improvement from rain prediction

Pitch is brand new .

 

[Croma]

Weather is not great but little bit improvement from rain prediction

Pitch is brand new .

Lovely.

Batting friendlier track I imagine.

 

[KingKhanWC]

If there was reserve day for 2nd Semifinals but not for 1st than people's would have complain why there was no reserve day for 1st semi but why for only india matches

Mr experts theses Semifinals and reserved days were fix before the tournament

World is not revolve around india only.

It’s stupid to have a reserve day for only ONE semi final , not the other .

Nobody cares about India as much as Indians think lol

It’s a simple point of discussion regarding the tournament . Sport is based on equal chances to qualify , this isn’t your nightly Bollywood movie .

 

[Devadwal]

Lovely.

Batting friendlier track I imagine.

Overcast condition during whole game so i think Bowlers also enjoy the surfaces .

Overall good it will be contest between bat and ball .

Toss become crucial as bowling first team certainly can exploits the conditions as pitch will be under the covers most of times before the game

 

[TheSultan]

Looking forward to Buttler and Salt destroying the chokers

 

[Croma]

It’s stupid to have a reserve day for only ONE semi final , not the other .

Nobody cares about India as much as Indians think lol

It’s a simple point of discussion regarding the tournament . Sport is based on equal chances to qualify , this isn’t your nightly Bollywood movie .

ICC does.

The ICC had pre-decided that if India were to reach the semi-finals, they would schedule them for the second match to cater to prime viewing hours for Indian television audiences.

And yes it is stupid to have reserve day only for one semi-final.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Looking forward to Buttler and Salt destroying the chokers

Why would India be chokers this time? England are defending champions and were second favourites after Australia.

On this forum , a lot of posters did not have India as potential semifinalists but in case India does reach a semi and crashes out , we are chokers anyway ?

Such convenient logic.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

England coach Matthew Mott says it is time for his side to "throw the first punch" against India in their T20 World Cup semi-final

The defending champions struggled through the group stage, only progressing on net run-rate at the expense of Scotland.

They came through their Super 8s pool in second behind South Africa and now face unbeaten India in Guyana on Thursday at 15:30 BST.

"We haven't quite clicked as a whole unit yet," said Mott.

"Bits and pieces have worked at different times but our 'A-game' is certainly enough to match with India."

England were beaten by Australia in the first group stage and also lost to South Africa in the Super 8s.

After their first match against Scotland was washed out, they needed heavy victories against Oman and Namibia to avoid an early exit.

"We've had to play some ugly cricket at times," added Mott. "But from here on in it's time to be the frontrunners.

"It's time to more or less throw the first punch at India and then try to get our nose in front and never give it back."

Much of the discussion before the semi-final has been around the lack of a reserve day.

There is rain forecast for Thursday and, although there is no extra day possible as is the case for the semi-final between South Africa and Afghanistan in Trinidad, there are still 250 minutes of extra time possible to fit in a match.

If no result is possible India will progress, as they won their Super 8s group.

Mott said in an "ideal world" there would be a reserve day and it is something the International Cricket Council "need to look at long term".

There has also been criticism, external of the fact India's semi-final venue, should they qualify, was predetermined, whereas other sides had to wait for their route to be confirmed, but Mott played down the significance of the latter issue.

“We were quite aware there was every chance that we'd be here in Guyana,” he said.

“We've had to fight our way through this tournament and it's something that's galvanised us as a group and will hold us in really good stead for cut-throat matches.”

A surface suiting spinners is expected at Providence Stadium, which could help India, whose squad includes four spinners and batters who grew up on low surfaces.

England have uncapped left-arm spinner Tom Hartley in their squad, who could come into contention for a debut.

But Australian Mott, who was speaking before England's training and prior to seeing the pitch, said he does not expect "drastic changes".

The match is a repeat of the semi-final of the last T20 World Cup in Australia, where a superb England thrashed India by 10 wickets in Adelaide en route to winning the title.

Source: BBC

 

[sweep_shot]

This should've been the final.

England messed it up by losing to South Africa.

Anyway, I think England are favorites.

 

[JaDed]

Bumrah Arsh Kul Axar need to keep the momentum.
Batting is extremely weak and except Kohli everyone is due a collective failure. Kohli is a failure but hopefully he comes through today for sake of pride.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Bumrah Arsh Kul Axar need to keep the momentum.
Batting is extremely weak and except Kohli everyone is due a collective failure. Kohli is a failure but hopefully he comes through today for sake of pride.

Toss is crucial for us. Last time there was no rain forecast. But this time there is intermittent rain threats. You could be on the field for a period of maximum 10 hours.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

England has a chance to save cricket.

C’MONNN ENGGGLAAARRNDDD

 

[sweep_shot]

England has a chance to save cricket.

C’MONNN ENGGGLAAARRNDDD

England is representing world cricket.

Greedy BCCI vs pure cricket representatives (England).

 

[RahulBose]

Rohit innings masked Ind victory and all the Ind supporters are going ecstatic. Take out his innings and Ind scored 110 in 80 balls. Pant made run a ball 15 which had a 6 and 4. In was 125-2 in 11 overs and they made 80 in 9 overs with 8 wkts remaining. Ind was 160 in 14 overs when Sky got out. So they scored 45 runs in 6 overs with 6 wkts remaining. Do you see the flaw in this?? If Rohit fails tomorrow and Sky fails as well - Ind will struggle to get to 150. Will be just like the 2023 ODI WC final. Once Rohit got out - Ind froze and batted meekly. So its Rohit/Sky or bust tomorrow for Ind

You can dissect every innings like this.

 

[RahulBose]

That is correct. India as a team are no match for ENG but they stand a chance based solely on a freak show from Bumrah, Kuldeep, Rohit, Pant etc.

Kohli does not count because the longer he stays at the crease, the more India's chances take a hit.

What is this pseudo science. Kohli is probably the most clutch player ever to play this game, and you are discounting him like he is Babar or someone

 

[Mamoon]

Chance for England to save the cricket world from noise pollution.

 

[jnaveen1980]

One thing i don't like is scheduling. They need to have 2 full days between semi final and final. Early games had so much gap between them.

 

[Mamoon]

Later on we see the Indian players go into the Afghan dressing room and take photos together that go viral on social media.

No one wants to see any of that. It is time to send the billion rupees bottlejobs and their poodles home.

England & South Africa - you have one job.

 

[Statpadder Inc]

Nobody cares about India as much as Indians think lol

It’s a simple point of discussion regarding the tournament . Sport is based on equal chances to qualify , this isn’t your nightly Bollywood movie .

Oh, you certainly do care a lot about India, pretty evident from all your posts

 

[cricketmania22]

Indian team is more likable than English team but they get a lot of hate due to BCCI and ICT fans.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Why would India be chokers this time? England are defending champions and were second favourites after Australia.

On this forum , a lot of posters did not have India as potential semifinalists but in case India does reach a semi and crashes out , we are chokers anyway ?

Such convenient logic.

So South Africa can’t be called chokers as well because they’ve never won a tournament and have never been favourites to win one?

 

[Mamoon]

Indian team is more likable than English team but they get a lot of hate due to BCCI and ICT fans.

Although this is subjective, curious to know what makes you say that?

England players are superior than their Indian counterparts and have actually won World Cups but they are still humble and don’t flaunt themselves in your faces and in the media.

ECB has made very little noise about winning two World Cups in three years. BCCI would demand statues of Indian players outside ICC HQ if they were to win two World Cups in three years.

Jos Buttler has achieved more in his white ball career than Kohli and Rohit put together, yet he is never going to talk about it.

 

[sweep_shot]

Although this is subjective, curious to know what makes you say that?

England players are superior than their Indian counterparts and have actually won World Cups but they are still humble and don’t flaunt themselves in your faces and in the media.

ECB has made very little noise about winning two World Cups in three years. BCCI would demand statues of Indian players outside ICC HQ if they were to win two World Cups in three years.

Jos Buttler has achieved more in his white ball career than Kohli and Rohit put together, yet he is never going to talk about it.

Top post.

I agree.

SENA nations tend to be humble when they win something.

 

[JaDed]

Although this is subjective, curious to know what makes you say that?

England players are superior than their Indian counterparts and have actually won World Cups but they are still humble and don’t flaunt themselves in your faces and in the media.

ECB has made very little noise about winning two World Cups in three years. BCCI would demand statues of Indian players outside ICC HQ if they were to win two World Cups in three years.

Jos Buttler has achieved more in his white ball career than Kohli and Rohit put together, yet he is never going to talk about it.

Coz no one in England still cares about cricket.

 

[JaDed]

Top post.

I agree.

SENA nations tend to be humble when they win something.

Yes like treating the trophy as a leg rest.

 

[Mamoon]

The only likeable high profile Indian player (for me) is Rohit.

A genuine guy who only plays for the team, not obsessed with worshipping Sachin, doesn’t feel the need to “bow” to him to give him flying kisses when he is in the stadium, doesn’t feel the need to wave to his wife during matches, his wife herself is not a drama who will come to a stadium and show her child’s face to the camera and then complain why people took pictures, who doesn’t need to feel the need to hide their kids faces as if the whole world has nothing better to do than to fantasize about how their children look like.

Similarly, there is no social media PR, no carefully constructed stadiums. No nose jobs, no fancy haircuts, no tattoos, doesn’t need to shove his diet and fitness routine down the throats of the media.

Rohit is what you see on tv. He really deserves to win a World Cup and a part of me wants him to get one especially while he’s captain, but his teammates and the Indian fans doesn’t deserve to win a World Cup with this generation of players.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Enjoy the pigg back ride on some other team lol

 

[Mamoon]

Coz no one in England still cares about cricket.

True, which is amazing how they can still produce players who are superior than Indians.

 

[JaDed]

True, which is amazing how they can still produce players who are superior than Indians.

Produce? Like India produces Iphones.

 

[JaDed]

If England had never stolen Morgan and Petersen I only wonder what would had happened to their teams?
Probably Alex Stewart and Hick wannabes will be getting knocked out every year.

 

[sweep_shot]

If England had never stolen Morgan and Petersen I only wonder what would had happened to their teams?
Probably Alex Stewart and Hick wannabes will be getting knocked out every year.

Stole? Those players voluntarily joined. Nobody forced them.

How was it any different to other people migrate to West?

Morgan probably would've been a nobody had he stayed with Ireland.

 

[JaDed]

Stole? Those players voluntarily joined. Nobody forced them.

How was it any different to other people migrate to West?

Morgan probably would've been a nobody had he stayed with Ireland.

Yeah so they didn’t produce, thanks for confirming

 

[cricketmania22]

Although this is subjective, curious to know what makes you say that?

England players are superior than their Indian counterparts and have actually won World Cups but they are still humble and don’t flaunt themselves in your faces and in the media.

ECB has made very little noise about winning two World Cups in three years. BCCI would demand statues of Indian players outside ICC HQ if they were to win two World Cups in three years.

Jos Buttler has achieved more in his white ball career than Kohli and Rohit put together, yet he is never going to talk about it.

I do find their white-ball team likable, but my displeasure primarily stems from the Test team antics. Their constant promotion of "Bazball" as the future of Test cricket was particularly irritating. Additionally, it bothered me how Stokes came out of ODI retirement just to participate in the World Cup.

I appreciate how Kohli and Rohit, unlike their fans and the media, show a great deal of respect towards Pakistani players. There is a mutual respect among the players, which is something their fans can emulate.

 

[Mamoon]

I do find their white-ball team likable, but my displeasure primarily stems from the Test team antics. Their constant promotion of "Bazball" as the future of Test cricket was particularly irritating. Additionally, it bothered me how Stokes came out of ODI retirement just to participate in the World Cup.

Agree with this. The Stokes-McCullum nexus is incredibly annoying and overhyped. Thankfully they have nothing to do with white ball cricket anymore.

Stokes is washed up and needs to retire. He had no business playing the World Cup and the he way he got embarrassed by Shami was well-deserved.

I really admired Stokes but he has proved to be one of the selfish players I have ever seen.

 

[guard]

Apart from indian fan, no others countries fans are want that india lift the Trophy .This is a fact .

And indian fans are no different either, stop pretending otherwise.
Your hate for Pakistan really shines through yet here you are…

 

[jnaveen1980]

I so wish Pakistan had beat India which would have forced the change in Indian XI but I guess it is too late now. The fact that Indian team won would prevail over any logical thinking on merits of current playing XI.

People are already frustrated with teh selections. One more exit will drive fans angry. Besides Gambhir is a no-nonsense guy. He doesn't care about these milestones, hypes. He will build a winning team. Not a team with bunch of individuals He was the reason why KKR has lifted 3 trophies. Played a major role in India winning two ICC trophies. Things will be different. With so many promising talents at disposal all these oldies will be discarded.

 

[RexRex]

I'm hearing that there is 100% chance of rain in Guyana and this semifinal to be washed out ?

 

[jattafridi]

New champions Vs defending champions

10 trillion dollars on india

Easy win for India