India [250] beat Australia [242] by 8 runs in 2nd ODI, take 2-0 series lead

[WengerOut]

We will win if that miracle happens. Highly unlikely to happen though. Omce a choker always a choker.

Banter aside, any half decent fast bowler in the circuit?

 

[jagatk]

Shikhar Dhawan is a concern. He can be blasted out by fast bowlers and also off spinners. People like to romanticise him by saying he is an ICC trophy bully, but that is just crap. This is absolute loss of eye.

I would agree but this same **** happened before CT where iirc he got dropped against england before CT but ended up being one of our best players.

 

[Sidilicious]

Given that Thala is going no where, I hope this is the final XI

Dhawan
Rohit
Kohli
Vijay Shankar
Dhoni
Jhadhav
Hardik Pandya
Bhuvi/Shami
Kuldeep
Chahal
Bumrah

A few things to note
1. We have to play Chahal over Jadeja. Jaddu can be the backup spinner in the XV, but Chahal + Kuldeep are match winners. Jadeja aint. He is only there to make the batting look stronger, which he doesnt.
2. Vijay Shankar in place on Rayudu

The bowling 40 overs from KulCha + Bumrah + Shami (or Bhuvi) is excellent. Pandya + Jhadhav + Vijay Shankar can help you squeeze out good 10 overs + a few extra overs if one of the Bowlers is having a tough time.

The batting - Top 3 is still one of the best in the world (yes, Dhawan's had a tough time, but he is a big torunament player).

Shankar seems like a solid 4. Dhoni is the weak link. Jhadhav is not the most trust worthy, but he is fine given the options he gives with the ball. Pandya is the perfect no. 7.

Due to Dhoni and Jhadhav the batting is slightly on thr weaker side. But this is the best XI we can post.

 

[WengerOut]

I would agree but this same **** happened before CT where iirc he got dropped against england before CT but ended up being one of our best players.

That was his peak. Recent exploits suggests that he is late onto strokes n all. He is just not the old Dhawan

 

[SportsWarrior]

depends on what you want as bowler, if he gives india 6 overs a game for 30 he has done his job even if he picks no wickets. He isn't bumrah or a kuldeep if you want something like that you have expectations that are not realistic and you have to consider the fact that he plays at 7 a position where we either have guys who can't bowl as well as him or can't bat as well as him. Do you have a replacement at 7 you would prefer who can help india play the 2 leggies.

People talk nonsense just because they hate a particular player.. Pandya's records suggests he will give you 10-0-55-1 kind of spell. in what world is that a bad spell in today's ODI setup when 280+ is generally par score? apart from that he will provide you 25 to 30 runs per innings with 115+ strike rate and add stunning run outs and fielding, he suddenly becomes top 3 or four MVPs in the team. who else is better than him in LOIs? Stokes has similar bowling average with higher economy and a better batting average. Overall value is same as Pandya. who else? Holder is clearly better but i don't see anyone else. that is the exact reason he is one of the first names on the team sheet. only ignorant fans who are too rooted in their hatred will ignore the FACTS...

 

[WengerOut]

Given that Thala is going no where, I hope this is the final XI

Dhawan
Rohit
Kohli
Vijay Shankar
Dhoni
Jhadhav
Hardik Pandya
Bhuvi/Shami
Kuldeep
Chahal
Bumrah

A few things to note
1. We have to play Chahal over Jadeja. Jaddu can be the backup spinner in the XV, but Chahal + Kuldeep are match winners. Jadeja aint. He is only there to make the batting look stronger, which he doesnt.
2. Vijay Shankar in place on Rayudu

The bowling 40 overs from KulCha + Bumrah + Shami (or Bhuvi) is excellent. Pandya + Jhadhav + Vijay Shankar can help you squeeze out good 10 overs + a few extra overs if one of the Bowlers is having a tough time.

The batting - Top 3 is still one of the best in the world (yes, Dhawan's had a tough time, but he is a big torunament player).

Shankar seems like a solid 4. Dhoni is the weak link. Jhadhav is not the most trust worthy, but he is fine given the options he gives with the ball. Pandya is the perfect no. 7.

Due to Dhoni and Jhadhav the batting is slightly on thr weaker side. But this is the best XI we can post.

I still maintain playing both Chahal and Kuldeep will be disaster.

 

[ILcricket]

watched bit of this match , happy to see relatively a low score being defended . Kohli's 40th in 240 matches & Bumrah - top notch .

 

[jagatk]

That was his peak. Recent exploits suggests that he is late onto strokes n all. He is just not the old Dhawan

the selection committe has been horrible at actually picking players to replace anyone. So the option is either dhawan or rahul i am going to trust dhawan for atleast first 2 WC games before i go to rahul.

 

[Sidilicious]

I still maintain playing both Chahal and Kuldeep will be disaster.

Why? Too long a tail?

 

[WengerOut]

Why? Too long a tail?

Tail is a major problem. Fielding as well. Once they start to get thrashed the floodgates will be opened. I know they are getting wickets but both playing will be risky. I prefer Chahal who has better control.

 

[JattMaula]

Banter aside, any half decent fast bowler in the circuit?

Saini will play tests soon.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Rayudu is such a horrible fielder. Man. why is he even near the team let alone in the team.

 

[Smbhayi]

A better batsman and actually has some pace to rattle the batsman and a much better fielder than Shankar.

That being said, I will take Shankar over Fat Rayadu.

Shankar was clearly better batsman, Pandya was better hitter though but he won't be useful coming early.. he's a gun fielder though and decentish 5th bowler..

 

[Smbhayi]

Given that Thala is going no where, I hope this is the final XI

Dhawan
Rohit
Kohli
Vijay Shankar
Dhoni
Jhadhav
Hardik Pandya
Bhuvi/Shami
Kuldeep
Chahal
Bumrah

A few things to note
1. We have to play Chahal over Jadeja. Jaddu can be the backup spinner in the XV, but Chahal + Kuldeep are match winners. Jadeja aint. He is only there to make the batting look stronger, which he doesnt.
2. Vijay Shankar in place on Rayudu

The bowling 40 overs from KulCha + Bumrah + Shami (or Bhuvi) is excellent. Pandya + Jhadhav + Vijay Shankar can help you squeeze out good 10 overs + a few extra overs if one of the Bowlers is having a tough time.

The batting - Top 3 is still one of the best in the world (yes, Dhawan's had a tough time, but he is a big torunament player).

Shankar seems like a solid 4. Dhoni is the weak link. Jhadhav is not the most trust worthy, but he is fine given the options he gives with the ball. Pandya is the perfect no. 7.

Due to Dhoni and Jhadhav the batting is slightly on thr weaker side. But this is the best XI we can post.

Jadeja has to be in the field last 10 over though..

 

[Sidilicious]

Tail is a major problem. Fielding as well. Once they start to get thrashed the floodgates will be opened. I know they are getting wickets but both playing will be risky. I prefer Chahal who has better control.

TBH, its really between one of KulCha vs Jadeja vs Krunal Pandya.

Jadeja does not provide much benefit with the bat in the LOI side. Krunal Pandya is definitely a better bat, but then having 20 overs from not your main bowlers is quite risky.

The other option is playing 3 seamers + one of KulCha + Pandya + Jhadhav + Vijay Shankar. Most teams struggle with good spinners today. And having only 1 proper spinner + Jhadhav might give them a bit of relief.

 

[rhony]

Jadeja has to be in the field last 10 over though..

That's it. The team by [MENTION=134408]Sidilicious[/MENTION] is perfect. There's enough batting. 4 gun bowlers with another 10 shared by 3 bowlers- Pandya, Jadav, Shankar.

Shankar is a solid bat from I've seen in India in the recent past. He played pace well in NZ and was good here on slow tracks. He has an all round game and is a very good fielder. Just complete Chahal's overs by the 35th over and bring Jadeja in as a substitute. Rayudu should go