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India [98/6] beat West Indies [95/9] by 4 wickets in first T20I, lead series 1-0

5 batsmen and 6 bowlers. :)))

2 of those are Pandey the dud and unpredictable Pant.

India still relying on top 3.
 
"Six out of eight times, teams which have batted first have won the game so both captains might be tempted to bat first here"
Kohli : We will bowl first.
 
Kohli really following in the footsteps of dhoni, you play for my ipl team you play for international team as well. Wonder when he will start following the win the ICC tournaments thing?
 
WI batting is a joke , they have no sense of batting. Once in a blue moon they will win something , but overall pathetic.
 
Pollard is one of the few batsmen who can take pitch out of the equation. People who watched him play for MI know his valuable contributions. I think WI didn't use him well.
 
Pollard is one of the few batsmen who can take pitch out of the equation. People who watched him play for MI know his valuable contributions. I think WI didn't use him well.

They have many players who werent used well ,list is long
 
Average of 50 in all 3 formats of a game for Kohli. I don't think we will ever see that again.
 
But but but Pant scored a hundred in test. Lol. Gone first ball. :)))

Pant is a certified Hackk. He may score some runs here and there, but he doesn't have brain to be successful in long run.
 
But but but Pant scored a hundred in test. Lol. Gone first ball. :)))

Pant is a certified Hackk. He may score some runs here and there, but he doesn't have brain to be successful in long run.
Unfortunately we don't have any other young replacements. Sanju Samson isn’t consistent enough and I believe he has knee problems which is affecting his keeping. Ishan Kishan appears to be equally hackish with less array of shots. Bharat is more of a test player.
 
But but but Pant scored a hundred in test. Lol. Gone first ball. :)))

Pant is a certified Hackk. He may score some runs here and there, but he doesn't have brain to be successful in long run.

His test average will soon come down to 30. Just wait and watch. :inti
 
Giving Pant an important position of number 4 is a good joke. He should bat at 6 in T20's and 7 in ODI's.
 
But but but Pant scored a hundred in test. Lol. Gone first ball. :)))

Pant is a certified Hackk. He may score some runs here and there, but he doesn't have brain to be successful in long run.

He took a catch diving forward unlike Dhoni who dropped a similar catch of Ross Taylor and cost us the WC

Pant even got the DRS right today which Dhoni couldn't and costed us the match against Eng :msd:
 
He took a catch diving forward unlike Dhoni who dropped a similar catch of Ross Taylor and cost us the WC

Pant even got the DRS right today which Dhoni couldn't and costed us the match against Eng :msd:

Once again bringing in Dhoni's name who isn't even playing in this match into discussion lol. Dhoni is gone. Real test starts now. :inti
 
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I can't remember the last time a T20I game where both teams lost 6 or more wickets and failed to get to a 100. Strange stuff.
 
Once again bringing in Dhoni's name who isn't even playing in this match into discussion lol. Dhoni is gone. Real test starts now. :inti

He just needs to be better than Dhoni and other wicket keepers like Sanju, Ishan to merit a place in the playing XI.
 
I can't remember the last time a T20I game where both teams lost 6 or more wickets and failed to get to a 100. Strange stuff.

Obviously, both the teams can't get to a hundred.

If the team batting second wins it, then they won't bat any further. Like today's match.

There is nothing strange about it.
 
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Very ordinary performance from West Indies. They are supposed to excel in this format and it was a home game for them too. India won without many of their regulars.
 
So from Pant you have now moved on to Gambhir? That didn't take long. LOL. :inti

Reason for mentioning Gambhir was to point flaws in your logic which retrospectively applied makes Joginder Sharma a better bowler than Waqar.

Unlike you, most Indian posters here don't love or hate a player despite his poor/good performances. Pant deserves chances. If he fails in a certain number of matches, will be replaced by Ishan Kishan or somebody else which is fine with me. Dhoni on the other hand was (and still is) irreplaceable solely due to seniority culture in the team.

At this point of time even Aditya Tare is a better choice than selfish Dhoni.
 
Reason for mentioning Gambhir was to point flaws in your logic which retrospectively applied makes Joginder Sharma a better bowler than Waqar.

Unlike you, most Indian posters here don't love or hate a player despite his poor/good performances. Pant deserves chances. If he fails in a certain number of matches, will be replaced by Ishan Kishan or somebody else which is fine with me. Dhoni on the other hand was (and still is) irreplaceable solely due to seniority culture in the team.

At this point of time even Aditya Tare is a better choice than selfish Dhoni.

Unfortunately, logic is not his forte :inti
 
Reason for mentioning Gambhir was to point flaws in your logic which retrospectively applied makes Joginder Sharma a better bowler than Waqar.

Unlike you, most Indian posters here don't love or hate a player despite his poor/good performances. Pant deserves chances. If he fails in a certain number of matches, will be replaced by Ishan Kishan or somebody else which is fine with me. Dhoni on the other hand was (and still is) irreplaceable solely due to seniority culture in the team.

At this point of time even Aditya Tare is a better choice than selfish Dhoni.

Lol what a lame comeback. This is what you said

"Pant will need at least a hundred selfish pathetic performances to get anywhere close to Dhoni."

Now tell me what does this mean? What's the logic here? I clearly mentioned in that post that bringing in Dhoni's name now is useless. He is gone. Some of you act like Pant is way above criticism. At this moment he is not even fit to tie the shoe laces of Suresh Raina let alone Dhoni. You can cry all you want but fans will criticise him if he plays a bad inning. :inti
 
Pathetic performance from West Indies. Hopefully they compete in the rest of the series.
 
Another intolerant fan who thinks his opinion is the only one that matters whereas opinion of others lacks logic. Lol get a life. Your one liners are getting pretty boring. :inti

Well I'm not here to entertain you :inti
What's the logic behind you saying his test average will come down to 30 ?
 
Another intolerant fan who thinks his opinion is the only one that matters whereas opinion of others lacks logic. Lol get a life. Your one liners are getting pretty boring. :inti

do you rate pant in tests? I had the exact same opinion about him prior to the test series vs australia. I got to give pant credit. he can bat in tests no doubt. I totally agree that he is a hack in odi and t20 though. should be playing at 6 or 7 in odi/t20. I am sure there are other keepers in the domestic circuit that don't get chances due to Internal politics.
 
Lol what a lame comeback. This is what you said

"Pant will need at least a hundred selfish pathetic performances to get anywhere close to Dhoni."

Now tell me what does this mean? What's the logic here? I clearly mentioned in that post that bringing in Dhoni's name now is useless. He is gone. Some of you act like Pant is way above criticism. At this moment he is not even fit to tie the shoe laces of Suresh Raina let alone Dhoni. You can cry all you want but fans will criticise him if he plays a bad inning. :inti

Been following this website from few days and seeing your posts,though I don't agree with few of them at least your criticism is constructive and makes some sense and I respect you because you stand on what you say. But, you really lost at this 'Pant is not even fit to tie shoe laces of Raina'
And another thing I heard here often is 'hack'. I don't think hacks play in internationals. You have to play literally 100's of matches to made it to internationals. You can hack a 4 or 6 not 50's and 100's. One can call them as technically poor to play in diff situations or not an international standard batsman but not a hack.
Most of pant's dismissals are due to his temparament not his skills. He doesn't use his brain very often some one should teach him that. If Still he fails then we can search for a replacement.
 
No doubt Pant is a phenomenal test cricketer but he is an absolute hack and doesn't fit in ODI/T20 role.

India should start searching for another wicket-keeper.Till then, we can have Dhoni in ODIs/T20 who has anyways done so much for Indian cricket. He showed how impactful he was in WC 2019 even though he was past his prime.
 
Well I'm not here to entertain you :inti
What's the logic behind you saying his test average will come down to 30 ?

That's my experience of watching cricket for so many years. If you think his test average will stay at 49 something throughout his career then you are delusional. As I said just wait and watch. Its one thing getting to an average of 50 and its another thing to maintain it consistently throughout his career. :inti
 
Been following this website from few days and seeing your posts,though I don't agree with few of them at least your criticism is constructive and makes some sense and I respect you because you stand on what you say. But, you really lost at this 'Pant is not even fit to tie shoe laces of Raina'
And another thing I heard here often is 'hack'. I don't think hacks play in internationals. You have to play literally 100's of matches to made it to internationals. You can hack a 4 or 6 not 50's and 100's. One can call them as technically poor to play in diff situations or not an international standard batsman but not a hack.
Most of pant's dismissals are due to his temparament not his skills. He doesn't use his brain very often some one should teach him that. If Still he fails then we can search for a replacement.

Really? I said currently he is not fit enough to tie the shoe laces of Suresh Raina. Suresh Raina has played so many match winning innings in LOI's for India. Together with Dhoni and Yuvi he had helped India chased so many targets.

Now when a fan comes and tries to say things like 'Pant has to play 100 selfish innings to match Dhoni' you think its logical lol? At least I am saying it on the basis of real scenarios not some made up junk like 100 selfish innings. Statements like these really tell how low people can go to hate a player like Dhoni.

Everytime someone criticises Pant his die hard lovers bring Dhoni into discussion. He is not in the team and I don't think he will be in the team again. So where is the logic in bringing his name here? :inti
 
do you rate pant in tests? I had the exact same opinion about him prior to the test series vs australia. I got to give pant credit. he can bat in tests no doubt. I totally agree that he is a hack in odi and t20 though. should be playing at 6 or 7 in odi/t20. I am sure there are other keepers in the domestic circuit that don't get chances due to Internal politics.

Obviously there is no other option in tests so he will continue to play there but his fans think he will maintain his average of 50 in tests which is quite delusional. In my opinion if he plays 50 tests he will end his career with an average of 25-31. :inti
 
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