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Despite the obvious flaws and issues, we have been the no. 1 team in the world across all formats of the game.

In tests, this team has won everything came in front in Asia while stayed competitive outside Asia as well by winning series in Australia, West Indies and winning matches in SA and England as well.

In ODIs, India haven't lost anything again anywhere in Asia, South Africa and Australia and were competitive in England, also dominated CT except one off-day.

In T20s, although stats don't reflect but we all know inside and it is only a matter of time, India will eventually be ranked no. 1 side but I believe they are already the best T20 team in the world currently.

Discuss! Your views are welcomed.
 
Pakistan is better than India in t 20
and winning trophy in ICC trounament in ODI.
 
How are we better in T20? Its our pathetic format imho plainly because we play "seniors"there, I think we can be very good.
 
I think ODI rankings are fair. Eng are a better team and rightfully the No.1. India and England are very close in tests. Ind is better in T20s. These two teams are atleast a notch above the rest
 
I think ODI rankings are fair. Eng are a better team and rightfully the No.1. India and England are very close in tests. Ind is better in T20s. These two teams are atleast a notch above the rest

In tests, England ain't in the same bus as India. In ODIs, it is close between the duo.
 
Not T20s and in ODI's I'd say England are better.

Tests is fair.
 
Remove India's wins against the D and E sides of every team during that time period and we would end up with 0 wins. That's how bad we are.
 
In tests, England ain't in the same bus as India. In ODIs, it is close between the duo.

India and Eng can beat each other at home as they've shown. They can compete or even beat anyone else. Eng can win in SA. India can win in the subcontinent. Eng's SL win probably tilts a tad in their favor
 
Despite the obvious flaws and issues, we have been the no. 1 team in the world across all formats of the game.

In tests, this team has won everything came in front in Asia while stayed competitive outside Asia as well by winning series in Australia, West Indies and winning matches in SA and England as well.

In ODIs, India haven't lost anything again anywhere in Asia, South Africa and Australia and were competitive in England, also dominated CT except one off-day.

In T20s, although stats don't reflect but we all know inside and it is only a matter of time, India will eventually be ranked no. 1 side but I believe they are already the best T20 team in the world currently.

Discuss! Your views are welcomed.

Oh good to hear you guys do care about t20 ranking .BTW if we win t20 series against SA we will touch 140 rating point which will be first by any team .good luck reaching there.

If you justify 2016 worldcup performance of both team than let me tell you pakistan have only 2 survivor in amir and sarfaraz other than that this team is whole new team with winning 11 series on the trout that inculde in eng,nz
 
Oh good to hear you guys do care about t20 ranking .BTW if we win t20 series against SA we will touch 140 rating point which will be first by any team .good luck reaching there.

If you justify 2016 worldcup performance of both team than let me tell you pakistan have only 2 survivor in amir and sarfaraz other than that this team is whole new team with winning 11 series on the trout that inculde in eng,nz

India beat SA, Eng in T20s abroad. Rain saved AUS in AUS. They can beat any team in Asia and are rightfully the best T20 team around. Pak has No.1 ranking and there are no complaints. They have won everything and deserve it. I think if Pak beats SA and Eng abroad, then they can claim dominance along with ranking. There's also a small matter of Ind vs Pak and unfortunately we will see that only in WC
 
But regardless of these facts India has not won ICC Tournament since 2013.
And they lost badly 4-1 in England Test series also lost one day series there as well. Plus in south africa lost 2-1 in tests.
 
India beat SA, Eng in T20s abroad. Rain saved AUS in AUS. They can beat any team in Asia and are rightfully the best T20 team around. Pak has No.1 ranking and there are no complaints. They have won everything and deserve it. I think if Pak beats SA and Eng abroad, then they can claim dominance along with ranking. There's also a small matter of Ind vs Pak and unfortunately we will see that only in WC

We annihilated England in the one T20 we played in England in the last series. And have beaten every single team since, I think we have lost less than 5 times in the last few years (someone correct me if I am wrong). We also beat NZ in NZ so I am sure we can beat Australia in Australia as well. However yeah we need to beat SA and ofcourse Australia in their backyard, especially since our record against them is a disaster in any format of the game in Australia.
 
Not T20s and in ODI's I'd say England are better.

Tests is fair.

In T20s, India havent lost any of the last 10 series which includes series in England, South Africa and Australia as well as Nidahas Trophy.

We also blanked WI 3-0 at home. :virat
 
I think India are the best ODI side, by a long mile.

I agree. England will be exposed completely in Asia. Even Pakistan will beat them in UAE. They fail to even win CT twice at their home. One was won by us and other was fluked by our beloved padosis, ie, you guys. :salute
 
India and Eng can beat each other at home as they've shown. They can compete or even beat anyone else. Eng can win in SA. India can win in the subcontinent. Eng's SL win probably tilts a tad in their favor

England couldn't win a match in India. India have won series in Australia,Sri Lanka and West Indies. England,on other hand, lost to kiwis and were whitewashed in Australia.
 
England couldn't win a match in India. India have won series in Australia,Sri Lanka and West Indies. England,on other hand, lost to kiwis and were whitewashed in Australia.

Ind lost in SA, lost in Eng despite the fight. Ashes whitewash was with Smith and Warner. Anyway, it's all speculation. The Eng team that beat SL looks a gun team. At this point, my opinion is it's a stalemate in tests, Eng is better in ODIs, Ind is better in T20s.
 
But regardless of these facts India has not won ICC Tournament since 2013.
And they lost badly 4-1 in England Test series also lost one day series there as well. Plus in south africa lost 2-1 in tests.

Which ICC trophy did Eng win? AUS won the WC. So, are they the best team now?
 
Pakistan is undisputed numero uno in T20i

In ODIs England is at another level although head to head i back India to beat them 7/10 times, especially in tournaments.

In tests, there is no number 1 team in the world. India, Southern Afrikaan, England and NZ are at par.

Hope it helps.

Bhaijaan.
 
The decade has another 23 months left.

It's not unlikely that India would end up the best team in both tests and ODIs in terms of W/L ratio as well as stay at the top of ICC ranking table.
 
Does T20s even matter for India? Most bilaterals are testing ground for new talent and apart for T20WC don't think India even cares about this hit and giggle games.
 
Does T20s even matter for India? Most bilaterals are testing ground for new talent and apart for T20WC don't think India even cares about this hit and giggle games.

T20 matters but not at the bilateral level. IPL and World T20 are both serious events for Indian fans and players alike.
 
Does T20s even matter for India? Most bilaterals are testing ground for new talent and apart for T20WC don't think India even cares about this hit and giggle games.

I agree. T20s dont really matter much for us but even there India have been a tough yard for opposition to cover up.

In Odis and Tests, India are the best team in the world without any shadow of doubt.
 
But regardless of these facts India has not won ICC Tournament since 2013.
And they lost badly 4-1 in England Test series also lost one day series there as well. Plus in south africa lost 2-1 in tests.

West Indies didn't win any ICC tournament in the 80's.
 
India beat SA, Eng in T20s abroad. Rain saved AUS in AUS. They can beat any team in Asia and are rightfully the best T20 team around. Pak has No.1 ranking and there are no complaints. They have won everything and deserve it. I think if Pak beats SA and Eng abroad, then they can claim dominance along with ranking. There's also a small matter of Ind vs Pak and unfortunately we will see that only in WC

Pakistan have thrashed 5-1 in last six encounter against aus .if play against aus currently in t20 series in aus we will win the series .it is unforunate we don.t have fixture against them in aus .We did beat Sa in 2013 in t20 seriez i think we will win again
 
Don't post nonsense about some other substandard Indian forums here

Any more and you will be banned.
 
Best odi team is england the prove is there ranking .they have one of most destructive top 3 in odis.hales,roy and bairstow
 
Best odi team is england the prove is there ranking .they have one of most destructive top 3 in odis.hales,roy and bairstow

How do the rankings at a particular point of time prove that England have been the best ODI team over this decade? The rankings do not consider the last 8 years.

India's top 3 is probably the best ever in history, tied with Aus and ahead of WI.
 
West Indies didn't win any ICC tournament in the 80's.

how many ICC Tournaments were there in 1980's ?
only 2
1983
1987

In this decade there have been so many ICC Tournaments post 2013
2014 ICC T20 World cup
2015 Cricket world cup
2017 ICC Champions trophy
2016 T20 World cup
2019 Cricket world cup

So India had 5 chances since 2013 to win something big.
but could not. (they wont win 2019 world cup)
 
how many ICC Tournaments were there in 1980's ?
only 2
1983
1987

In this decade there have been so many ICC Tournaments post 2013
2014 ICC T20 World cup
2015 Cricket world cup
2017 ICC Champions trophy
2016 T20 World cup
2019 Cricket world cup

So India had 5 chances since 2013 to win something big.
but could not. (they wont win 2019 world cup)

Why post 2013? Does 2011 not come in this decade?

And about the 2019 WC, can you send me next week's lottery numbers?
 
How do the rankings at a particular point of time prove that England have been the best ODI team over this decade? The rankings do not consider the last 8 years.

India's top 3 is probably the best ever in history, tied with Aus and ahead of WI.

Did that help you win a odi series in england recently ?Op is acting smart and there is no science of picking 2015 to judge team quality where todays top like england have pathetic record in 2015 why not from 2016?
.Currently england is more dangerous than india the margin is small but still england is better side
 
Why post 2013? Does 2011 not come in this decade?

And about the 2019 WC, can you send me next week's lottery numbers?

well i have noticed your id sachin136, once india will not win 2019 world cup, you can re-check my post here. They will not win world cup because they will not. I will send you message at that time. And by the way you will not even play in final. England will beat you in semi finals.
 
well i have noticed your id sachin136, once india will not win 2019 world cup, you can re-check my post here. They will not win world cup because they will not. I will send you message at that time. And by the way you will not even play in final. England will beat you in semi finals.

Do you have a newsletter that I can sign up for?
 
how many ICC Tournaments were there in 1980's ?
only 2
1983
1987

In this decade there have been so many ICC Tournaments post 2013
2014 ICC T20 World cup
2015 Cricket world cup
2017 ICC Champions trophy
2016 T20 World cup
2019 Cricket world cup

So India had 5 chances since 2013 to win something big.
but could not. (they wont win 2019 world cup)

Very good post.

However, if we look at the results: -

SL
Aus
Pak
WI
____

So, who among these four will you label as the best team in the world?

There we dont have the answer. This ultimately comes down between India and England given their performance in last 10 series and if we remember when England played India last time in India as well as in South Africa, they lost the series. There was a loss in Scotland as well.

Ultimately, it all comes down to India who are the ultimate ODI team on current form as well as the ODI team of the decade which is not even up for a debate.
 
Did that help you win a odi series in england recently ?Op is acting smart and there is no science of picking 2015 to judge team quality where todays top like england have pathetic record in 2015 why not from 2016?
.Currently england is more dangerous than india the margin is small but still england is better side

Since 2016 January,

ODIs: -

England losses: -

Lost to SA in SA, 2016
Lost to India in India, 2017
Lost to Scotland, 2018

India losses: -

Lost to England in England, 2018
Lost to _________

So, England lost three series while India lost one in last three years, of course cancelling out England and India's respective losses to Pakistan in Champions Trophy🏆. That should help I believe.
 
Since 2016 January,

ODIs: -

England losses: -

Lost to SA in SA, 2016
Lost to India in India, 2017
Lost to Scotland, 2018

India losses: -

Lost to England in England, 2018
Lost to _________

So, England lost three series while India lost one in last three years, of course cancelling out England and India's respective losses to Pakistan in Champions Trophy🏆. That should help I believe.
Since you put 2015 in op you forget to mention India lost to Sa at home
Since you put scotland Did not india tie one match with afghanistan?

http://www.espncricinfo.com/inda/engine/series/903573.html
 
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India and England will continue to trade places in ODIs.

Also, let's not forget that England's 2-1 win against India in 2018 came against India C pop gun attack of Thakurs and Pandaya. No Bumrah, no Shami.

Overall I believe India is a superior side both home and away, but England are not too far behind.
 
People chest-thumping over our T20 form are fully aware of the fact that if we were to play India, they will humiliate us.

India wipes the floor with us in all formats.
 
If India strengthens it's ODI middle order by replacing mediocre players like rayudu with Gill/Agarwal, then they will be the best. Until then , they will continue to be a very good side but not the best. Right now, they are marginally behind England.
 
In T20s, India havent lost any of the last 10 series which includes series in England, South Africa and Australia as well as Nidahas Trophy.

We also blanked WI 3-0 at home. :virat
Pakistan are better.
 
Since you put 2015 in op you forget to mention India lost to Sa at home
Since you put scotland Did not india tie one match with afghanistan?

http://www.espncricinfo.com/inda/engine/series/903573.html

I started since 2016 on your demand. If you want to calculate since 2015, then England performance in WC 15 was worst among all the eight teams while India made it to semis strongly. It is true that India lost to SA in 2015 but during the same time period, England also lost to Australia in 2015 ODI series in England. So, that evens out again.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_cricket_team_in_England_and_Ireland_in_2015

Anyways, no point going that far but as I showed you, India are ahead of England in ODIs whether you count since 2016 or since 2015. There is that one series win in SA difference for India as well as loss to Scotland in comparison to tie match to Afghanistan.
 
That was India's D team. No Rohit, Dhawan, Kohli, Chahal, Bhuvi, Shami, or Bumrah.

Which players were missing from the England side that lost to Scotland or SL?

Well full strength did lost to england .upset do tend to happen even india have off day against kenya
 
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Since 2016 January,

ODIs: -

England losses: -

Lost to SA in SA, 2016
Lost to India in India, 2017
Lost to Scotland, 2018

India losses: -

Lost to England in England, 2018
Lost to _________

So, England lost three series while India lost one in last three years, of course cancelling out England and India's respective losses to Pakistan in Champions Trophy🏆. That should help I believe.

Why 2016...we should consider after 2015 WC(new cycle begins after every WC)

India lost to SA at home and also in BD in 2015.


Anyways...I feel India are the best test side at the moment while Eng take the honours in ODIs.
T20s it's difficult to say.
 
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Pakistan are better.

Not even close. If India and Pakistan were to play 5 T20s, India would smash Pakistan in at least 3 matches.

For Pakistan to beat India today in any format (other than one-off games like the CT Final), it will need to face a severely weakened Indian side without 4-5 main players.

As we saw in the Asia Cup, even a Kohli-less India is at a different level. This is true in T20s and also Tests.

Pakistan are better than India if you ensure that Kohli, Rohit, Dhawan, Bumrah and Yadav do not play, and they are replaced with average domestic performers.

Against a full-strength India side, we can only hope for one-off, flash in the pan wins with the Indian team having a bad day.

This so-called new generation of fearless Pakistani cricketers, the PSL superstars such as Shadab, Hasan, Fakhar etc. have played India four teams and have been beaten to a pulp thrice.

Technically, mentally and physically the Indian players are streets ahead of the poster boys of mediocrity, the Pakistani players.
 
Since you put 2015 in op you forget to mention India lost to Sa at home
Since you put scotland Did not india tie one match with afghanistan?

http://www.espncricinfo.com/inda/engine/series/903573.html

See, if I include 2015 for India, I need to include 2015 for every team including England and England performance was absymal that year itself. To be honest, it is not fair for us to go back that much.

But whether you calculate since 2015 or 2016, it will eventually be India as the best ODI team.
 
Why 2016...we should consider after 2015 WC(new cycle begins after every WC)

India lost to SA at home and also in BD in 2015.


Anyways...I feel India are the best test side at the moment while Eng take the honours in ODIs.
T20s it's difficult to say.

I counted since 2016 as per Saeed demand.

[MENTION=137484]Ashmal[/MENTION], read ^ as well.
 
The series win in Australia has given them a boost in their confidence. Undisputed leader in the cricketing world right now.
 
Pakistan are better.

While this is not a format I really care much, so I can't elaborate much on this(don't even remember stats here as T20 is anyone's game tbh), but [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] has given a detailed explanation for this.
 
Not even close. If India and Pakistan were to play 5 T20s, India would smash Pakistan in at least 3 matches.

For Pakistan to beat India today in any format (other than one-off games like the CT Final), it will need to face a severely weakened Indian side without 4-5 main players.

As we saw in the Asia Cup, even a Kohli-less India is at a different level. This is true in T20s and also Tests.

Pakistan are better than India if you ensure that Kohli, Rohit, Dhawan, Bumrah and Yadav do not play, and they are replaced with average domestic performers.

Against a full-strength India side, we can only hope for one-off, flash in the pan wins with the Indian team having a bad day.

This so-called new generation of fearless Pakistani cricketers, the PSL superstars such as Shadab, Hasan, Fakhar etc. have played India four teams and have been beaten to a pulp thrice.

Technically, mentally and physically the Indian players are streets ahead of the poster boys of mediocrity, the Pakistani players.

T20s & ODIs are different formats...Pak lost ODIs badly in NZ & Eng but managed to turn it around in T20s.

So you can't say based on ODI results.
 
Not even close. If India and Pakistan were to play 5 T20s, India would smash Pakistan in at least 3 matches.

For Pakistan to beat India today in any format (other than one-off games like the CT Final), it will need to face a severely weakened Indian side without 4-5 main players.

As we saw in the Asia Cup, even a Kohli-less India is at a different level. This is true in T20s and also Tests.

Pakistan are better than India if you ensure that Kohli, Rohit, Dhawan, Bumrah and Yadav do not play, and they are replaced with average domestic performers.

Against a full-strength India side, we can only hope for one-off, flash in the pan wins with the Indian team having a bad day.

This so-called new generation of fearless Pakistani cricketers, the PSL superstars such as Shadab, Hasan, Fakhar etc. have played India four teams and have been beaten to a pulp thrice.

Technically, mentally and physically the Indian players are streets ahead of the poster boys of mediocrity, the Pakistani players.

Hahaha I enjoy reading your posts, you surely know how to rile up Pakistani fans here.

Coming to your post I think both India and Pakistan have bad selection in T20is. Dhoni, sarfaraz, kartick, Shoaib Malik etc don't deserve to be in T20is. Indian top 3 and Kuldeep, chahal, bumrah are must. Other 5 we need to find permanent members maybe pant, pandya, Bhuvi, Shaw and Gill/krunal pandya/shami can be those 5. But right now the team is not at it's best.

Same is with Pakistan they are also playing too many dead weight a who should be dropped and new T20 players given a chance.

The thing with T20 is that the probability is very high that a one off performance can win you the game. So even if you play 5-6 duds a one off performance by anyone of the other 6 can win you games easily.. So it's hard to play your best side since you are still winning 60% odd matches due to individual performances of the better players.
 
While this is not a format I really care much, so I can't elaborate much on this(don't even remember stats here as T20 is anyone's game tbh), but [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] has given a detailed explanation for this.
I'm going based on their recent record and how both teams have performed against us. Pakistan rolled us over most times home and away while we managed to beat you in the T20 WC.

Pakistan are world number 1s in the format and have gone 11 straight series unbeaten IIRC. Don't watch enough these days to break it down, but that's from what I've seen.
 
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None of it matters untilI India wins a World Cup and as long as India carries old man Dhoni and players like Raydu Jadhav and DInesh in the team they will not be winning the next World Cup. Good teams win World Cup and Australia and West Indies have the most Odi world cups.
 
None of it matters untilI India wins a World Cup and as long as India carries old man Dhoni and players like Raydu Jadhav and DInesh in the team they will not be winning the next World Cup. Good teams win World Cup and Australia and West Indies have the most Odi world cups.

India like the Windies have won the world cup twice.
 
Its hard to say for sure who has been the best side since that long, But tests probably fair but India have played loads of game at home since. England have definitely been the better ODI side. T20 who knows? More recently England also have a claim to be the best all round side in the world currently.
 
Does T20s even matter for India? Most bilaterals are testing ground for new talent and apart for T20WC don't think India even cares about this hit and giggle games.

Hierarchy of things that matter the most to Indian fans:-

1. Any level of game vs Pakistan
2.The 50 over world cup
3. Test tours to SENA
4. The T20i world cup
5. ODI tours to SENA

Everything else is fun cricket used mostly to groom young talent.

Bilateral T20i would feature last. They are totally meaningless unless they're against Pakistan.
 
Hierarchy of things that matter the most to Indian fans:-

1. Any level of game vs Pakistan
2.The 50 over world cup
3. Test tours to SENA
4. The T20i world cup
5. ODI tours to SENA

Everything else is fun cricket used mostly to groom young talent.

Bilateral T20i would feature last. They are totally meaningless unless they're against Pakistan.

Clearly for a side like India everything matters. They really should be meaning to win every single game they play just like all other sides.
 
Clearly for a side like India everything matters. They really should be meaning to win every single game they play just like all other sides.

T20s for India are more about giving youngsters some international exposure. Like FC said, results there are hardly anything Indian fans care about. Having said that, the results have been fantastic, and that says a lot about India's bench strength.

A full strength Indian T20 side will wipe floor with Pakistan like they have done quite consistently in the past.
 
T20s for India are more about giving youngsters some international exposure. Like FC said, results there are hardly anything Indian fans care about. Having said that, the results have been fantastic, and that says a lot about India's bench strength.

A full strength Indian T20 side will wipe floor with Pakistan like they have done quite consistently in the past.

Well they didnt win the last T20 WC? I do agree overall India do have a strong T20 side too.
 
None of it matters untilI India wins a World Cup and as long as India carries old man Dhoni and players like Raydu Jadhav and DInesh in the team they will not be winning the next World Cup.
Can't say tbh. India was about all about their top 3 until the Champions Trophy, but since then India have also found Kuldeep and Chahal who have been bowling at an average of 21 and 23 respectively. They already have Bumrah who's been excellent in ODI cricket along with Shami who bowls at an average of 26. So it's very much possible that with the bowling to complement the top 3 that India could cross the line.

England does seem the most dangerous ODI team though and most likely to win at home. But seeing how so many teams have no answer to Kuldeep and Chahal, India are strong favourites despite that middle order.
 
In Tests India are 1. In Odis, if we fix the middle order we would be 1 but as of now I would say we are on par with England. T20s India England Pakistan(on Paper it looks light but taking the recent results in to account) and NZ are on par
 
Hierarchy of things that matter the most to Indian fans:-

1. Any level of game vs Pakistan
2.The 50 over world cup
3. Test tours to SENA
4. The T20i world cup
5. ODI tours to SENA

Everything else is fun cricket used mostly to groom young talent.

Bilateral T20i would feature last. They are totally meaningless unless they're against Pakistan.

IPL is bigger than everything mentioned here except 50 over WC and test tours to SENA.
 
well i have noticed your id sachin136, once india will not win 2019 world cup, you can re-check my post here. They will not win world cup because they will not. I will send you message at that time. And by the way you will not even play in final. England will beat you in semi finals.
Since you accurately predicted who will not win .........can you predict who will win....might help make some money to many
 
In tests , India is undisputed rank 1 in the last few years. I don't think the same can be said about shorter formats.
 
well i have noticed your id sachin136, once india will not win 2019 world cup, you can re-check my post here. They will not win world cup because they will not. I will send you message at that time. And by the way you will not even play in final. England will beat you in semi finals.

Ofcourse. We all know Pak will start slow and probably lose to India in the group game. The they will slowly build up and beat SL in a crunch game. Then they will rise like a phoenix against the GUN England team in the SF. It will be a slow wicket and Pak will restrict ENg to a paltry score and will hunt down the target with ease. India will probably lose to SL in the group game but will reach the final some how. In the final FZ will score a smashing century and Kohli will be out teice in 2 balls. Amir wins it and Pak will be world champions.
 
In T20s, India havent lost any of the last 10 series which includes series in England, South Africa and Australia as well as Nidahas Trophy.

We also blanked WI 3-0 at home. :virat

'Havent lost' 10 series. Pakistan has WON 11 in a row, not drew any just straight out won 11 in a row. A record infact. Pak is better in T20.
 
If Pakistan winning 11 T20 series in a row can not make posters agree that Pakistan are the number 1 T20 side in the world then you're no longer stating an opinion, it's an agenda against that team aka that Mamoon guy and his agenda.

India is ahead in tests, although they literally lost 2-1 to SA, lost 4-1 to England and beat an Australian B side. ODIs England is the best.
 
If Pakistan winning 11 T20 series in a row can not make posters agree that Pakistan are the number 1 T20 side in the world then you're no longer stating an opinion, it's an agenda against that team aka that Mamoon guy and his agenda.

India is ahead in tests, although they literally lost 2-1 to SA, lost 4-1 to England and beat an Australian B side. ODIs England is the best.
Pakistan is undisputed t20 champ. No one is denying that. Just that t20 is t20. No team takes t20 format that seriously unless its a t20 WC. Test is the real cricket ,followed by ODI. (Not taking any credit away from Pakistani performance in t20). Since you mentioned India beating an Australia B team , it is also well known that India played its B team (without Bumrah) against England in the first two tests, and also played its B team (without Bumrah and Shami) against England in ODI series, which they lost 1-2.
 
Pakistan is undisputed t20 champ. No one is denying that. Just that t20 is t20. No team takes t20 format that seriously unless its a t20 WC. Test is the real cricket ,followed by ODI. (Not taking any credit away from Pakistani performance in t20). Since you mentioned India beating an Australia B team , it is also well known that India played its B team (without Bumrah) against England in the first two tests, and also played its B team (without Bumrah and Shami) against England in ODI series, which they lost 1-2.

B team logic only works when there are players missing from India's opponents.

Indians missing top players doesn't count. :salute
 
Ofcourse. We all know Pak will start slow and probably lose to India in the group game. The they will slowly build up and beat SL in a crunch game. Then they will rise like a phoenix against the GUN England team in the SF. It will be a slow wicket and Pak will restrict ENg to a paltry score and will hunt down the target with ease. India will probably lose to SL in the group game but will reach the final some how. In the final FZ will score a smashing century and Kohli will be out teice in 2 balls. Amir wins it and Pak will be world champions.

Become a script writer for bollywood and Pakistani movies...
 
England is the best ODI team.

Pakistan is the best t20I team.

I find the arbitrary 2015 number to be hilarious.
 
Look at the ICC ranking to decide. It shows that India are number one in tests, number 2 in ODI and number 2 in T20.
 
England is the best ODI team.

Pakistan is the best t20I team.

I find the arbitrary 2015 number to be hilarious.

Originally the thread was for the whole decade, and it still holds true in that case.
 
Another deluded fan 🤦🏽*♂️ Pakistan is the best LOI side in the world.. way ahead of india in t20’s anyway lol
 
England is the best ODI team.

Pakistan is the best t20I team.

I find the arbitrary 2015 number to be hilarious.

A Pakistan vs India T20 series would be a repeat of the Asia Cup, but sure, you are free to believe that Pakistan is the best T20I team. I also want to believe in unicorns but can't.

Not just India, but England will also beat Pakistan. A one-off T20 3 years ago means nothing. At best, if it is any consolation, Pakistan is a distant third best T20 team at the moment.
 
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