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India beat New Zealand in Super Over in third T20I, lead series 3-0

Bumrah is still getting back hi rhythm. Very poor execution of yorkers. Lot of difference between the BUmrah we saw in the world cup and now.
 
Is this the worst Team India have ever played and still won the match against a top side? Seriously we had no business winning this encounter, massive choking by the Kiwis.

Their captain produced an out of the world innings. They should have won this. Credit to shami to nip out two key wickets in the last over.
 
There is no real plus in this match for INdia. Yea they won.. whatever. But this attempt to convert this useless Dubey into an all rounder is getting old. Kohli should bat up the order at no.3 always. He is hurting his own form as well
 
As if Rohit shouldn't have been out first ball of the super over.

Look at the bigger picture man. What did you gain in terms of world T20? Your bowling still sucks. Your middle order is weak. Kane is not going to play like this every time. Guptill doesn't convert. Munroe is a hack.
 
Look at the bigger picture man. What did you gain in terms of world T20? Your bowling still sucks. Your middle order is weak. Kane is not going to play like this every time. Guptill doesn't convert. Munroe is a hack.
What big picture? We're bloody cursed and these losses are taking a toll on the team.

I can only imagine how tough losing the WC final would have been like them.

We haven't won a match in any format in months. 2 wins total since the WC Final in 7 months.
 
Pathetic team in the field. Not to mention persisting with the likes of dubey and thakur. Bashing these minnows will count for nothing when the World T20 comes around. This is just like 2018 Asia Cup when we went in with a rubbish middle order , smashed the bejeesus out of a couple of minnows only to lose the plot when it mattered.
 
We're an extremely poor LoI team (both ODIs/T20s) and are still winning.

Kohli & his cohorts are lulled into this false sense of superiority due to these wins...Ominous signs for our WT20 campaign...
 
Tim SOuthee vs INdia in LOI


18 matches 37.34 avge 6.18 ER (ODI)
10 matches 37.77 avge 9.06 ER (T20)
 
The only good thing is we're securing India take a mediocre XI to the WC.

You're welcome other teams.
 
We're an extremely poor LoI team (both ODIs/T20s) and are still winning.

Kohli & his cohorts are lulled into this false sense of superiority due to these wins...Ominous signs for our WT20 campaign...

Since India just needed 1 win out of 3 they were far too careless. NZ was fully focused as they were in a must win situation.
 
The only good thing is we're securing India take a mediocre XI to the WC.

You're welcome other teams.

Seriously you think so? lol When Pandya is back Dubey will be out. Kuldeep will replace chahal. Then it won't be a mediocre team. Bhuvi will also be back. Saini is a good reserve far better than Thakur.
 
We're an extremely poor LoI team (both ODIs/T20s) and are still winning.

Kohli & his cohorts are lulled into this false sense of superiority due to these wins...Ominous signs for our WT20 campaign...

Thakur and Dube are playing coz Pandya and Bhuvi aren't fit yet. With those two back, this will be a pretty solid Indian team.
 
Winning is a habit and losing is a habit too!

If not how do you explain losing from a position where you needed 2 runs from 4 balls?

Good win for India from a team perspective, but misfields and dropped catches are catching everyone in the team like a viral flu.

India should draft in Samson for the next two games resting one or both of Kohli and Rohit. Bring in Saini too. Bumrah could be rested along with Shami.
 
Thakur and Dube are playing coz Pandya and Bhuvi aren't fit yet. With those two back, this will be a pretty solid Indian team.
I get that.

Do you honestly think we can't find anyone else despite these 2 failing with regularity?
 
Manish Pandey is also a complete misfit at international level. Has been proved so many times now.

Jadeja isn't a LoI bowler. Should've learnt this from ICCCT in '17.
 
Winning is a habit and losing is a habit too!

If not how do you explain losing from a position where you needed 2 runs from 4 balls?

Good win for India from a team perspective, but misfields and dropped catches are catching everyone in the team like a viral flu.

India should draft in Samson for the next two games resting one or both of Kohli and Rohit. Bring in Saini too. Bumrah could be rested along with Shami.
I'd definitely rest Bumrah & Shami. Both are too invaluable for tests instead of these games.
 
New Zealand were the morale winners with Kane Williamson compiling one of T-20 International crickets classics exhibiting supreme artistry or craftsmanship.With 2 to win of 4 balls after Taylor dispatched the 1st ball for 6 it was game,set and match for the Kiwis before Williamson was dismissed.There could never be a better illustration of how a game is never over till the final icing on the cake is placed.It proved that even after it is just a stroke away from the equivalent of a game,set and match in test cricket the fall of a crucial wicket can turn the course of game 360 degrees like the complete reversal in the plot of a movie.

India escaped with a virtual Houdini act in the last 4 deliveries but one must give credit to the great mental resilience of Mohammad Shami with his mastery of the short rising ball.The game also proved how much cricket is in the mind with the dismissal of Williamson.After executing some of the most dazzling boundaries of a great bowler like Bhumra he just failed to bang the final nail in the coffin or give it the finishing touch.

Sad that after doing everything perfectly the Kiwis just buckled at the winning post.
 
lol india winning even whilst playing terrible. That's a sign of a champion.

Anyway, get rid of shardul, dubey 50 50, chahal. We get rid of these 3 then india will make it to the finals at the very least.
 
Kane Williamson played one of the great international test innings in a losing cause single handedly carrying the brunt of his teams chances on his shoulders.His sixes of Jadeja and successive boundaries of Bhumrah even off a yorker with the run rate over 11 displayed the wizardry of a magician .At every juncture when the clock was set back or game drifting Williamson majestically rallied his team.It was anybody's game but till he was present the Kiwis seemed to have the game in the bag.It shows one individual does not completely win a game.Ironic that it was Taylor and not Williamson who had virtually sealed victory after hard -fought game till then.

New Zealand were just destined to lose today.
 
England will have no mercy on either of these teams

England don't have to bowling to win in Australia and their batting will learn what happens when you can't consistently hit sixes because of the ground dimensions in australia.
 
Lets hope we seal this 15 for WC T20...we are all set...no need of further experimentation unless someone had a blinder of IPL.

Rohit
Rahul / Dhawan
Kohli
Iyer
Pandey/Pant
Pandya
Jadeja
Kuldeep /Chahal
Chahar
Bumrah
Shami/Saini
 
newzeland losing because of their poor bowling without ferguson and bout their bowling is club level
 
Kane Williamson played one of the great international test innings in a losing cause single handedly carrying the brunt of his teams chances on his shoulders.His sixes of Jadeja and successive boundaries of Bhumrah even off a yorker with the run rate over 11 displayed the wizardry of a magician .At every juncture when the clock was set back or game drifting Williamson majestically rallied his team.It was anybody's game but till he was present the Kiwis seemed to have the game in the bag.It shows one individual does not completely win a game.Ironic that it was Taylor and not Williamson who had virtually sealed victory after hard -fought game till then.

New Zealand were just destined to lose today.
There is no such thing as destiny.
Temperament is the key in crunch situations,ones who handle pressure better and doesnt let it affect themselves win the day.

Can you imagine how much pressure rohit sharma was under when india needes 10 off 2?
 
In shivam dube, I saw an upgraded version of robin singh - atleast robin singh won matches for India and his fielding was top class, even if he failed with both bat and ball. What makes shardul an auto selection no one knows. So much pool of untested players is available for India and still kohli makes the same mistakes he did before and in WC 19 and most of overseas test match selections, except for Aus.
 
England will have no mercy on either of these teams

INgurland has lost 4 out of last 5 t20s against India. They struggle against spin. Sure they do well in ground with altered side bounaries in England. But in Australia they can't do that.
 
England don't have to bowling to win in Australia and their batting will learn what happens when you can't consistently hit sixes because of the ground dimensions in australia.

Loool, bantom, buttler, stokes, Morgan, hales, Roy, bairstow , will despatch attacks in to space, and in woods and archer the 2 fastest and gun quicks in limited overs cricket.
 
INgurland has lost 4 out of last 5 t20s against India. They struggle against spin. Sure they do well in ground with altered side bounaries in England. But in Australia they can't do that.

England see hosts Australia as the danger team in Australia t20 world cup, India are no match, England have to much fire power in both batting and bowling
 
INgurland has lost 4 out of last 5 t20s against India. They struggle against spin. Sure they do well in ground with altered side bounaries in England. But in Australia they can't do that.
The way England mercilessly dominated your lot in a must win game for them in the WC, I would have a bit more respect for them. Played spin quite well that day if you remember.
 
The way England mercilessly dominated your lot in a must win game for them in the WC, I would have a bit more respect for them. Played spin quite well that day if you remember.

That was a must win game for them, not for us. And how exactly did they 'mercilessly dominate' that match, could you explain?
 
The way England mercilessly dominated your lot in a must win game for them in the WC, I would have a bit more respect for them. Played spin quite well that day if you remember.

True! They've mastered the art of playing against KulCha's bowling and I don't think they see this duo as a threat anymore. In a 5 match series, full-strength Eng will definitely win it 3-2 against full-strength India. No doubt about it.
 
India is a useless team when it comes to ICC events... remember that...only after kohli is gone, India can have a chance at winning ICC tourneys
 
That was a must win game for them, not for us. And how exactly did they 'mercilessly dominate' that match, could you explain?
India was never in the contest during the chase, despite some posters here thinking Dhoni would pull off an improbable chase.

They dominated your bowlers from the get-go. They dismantled your spinners brutally, which had been the strong point of your campaign. They were always ahead, despite Sharma and Kohli batting together.

That's domination, so this poster needs to show England some respect.

Yes I already mentioned it was a must-win for them. To perform at that level under severe pressure of getting knocked out of a home WC, speaks volumes of the character in that England ODI team.
 
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Rohit should be given ODI captaincy but Kohli may not agree to that. A bit like Kapil and Gavaskar type ego clash exists there. But if India wants to win ICC tournaments the cool head of Rohit might be more useful than the panicking kohli's captaincy in ICC knockouts.
 
Outstanding knock from KW though. Pleasantly surprised, as his SR in T20s has hurt NZ in the past. Took apart India's best bowler aswell.

Well done to India on coming back in the game and snatching it away in the end. Entertaining series thus far.
 
Kane Williamson starred for New Zealand - first in the actual play and then in the super over - but Rohit Sharma's decisive back-to-back sixes handed India a thrilling win in the third T20I played at Hamilton's Seddon Park on Wednesday, 29 January.

Tied finishes continue to haunt the Blackcaps, as they lost their third game to a super over finish in a little more than six months. This too, proved to be a series defining result, with India taking an unassailable 3-0 lead in the five-game affair.

When Ross Taylor hoicked Mohammed Shami for a six over deep mid-wicket on the first ball of the final over of New Zealand innings, it all looked over for Virat Kohli's men. The hosts needed three off five, with two of their most experienced men at the crease, and Williamson, the protagonist of the chase up to that point, batting on 95 off 47. A single was followed by the skipper's dismissal, who edged one in an attempt to guide it over the keeper's head.

Shami managed to go past Tim Seifert's blade on the next two attempts, with the batsmen scampering through for a bye to bring it down to a run required off the final ball. Taylor attempted a slog to a full-ish length delivery, only to inside edge it onto his stumps to leave the scores tied.

Williamson, who had struck eight fours and six sixes in actual play, took Jasprit Bumrah for a six and a four in the super over, before Martin Guptill's last-ball boundary completed the 17-run effort. Tim Southee conceded just eight off the first four balls against Rohit Sharma and KL Rahul to leave India to get 10 off the final two. Rohit however, held his nerves to strike two consecutive soaring sixes, one over cow corner and the other over long-off, to seal the deal.

Earlier, openers Rohit Sharma (65) and KL Rahul gave India a solid start of 89 from nine overs, after being put in to bat. Rohit, who had managed scores of seven and eight in his previous two outings, launched an early onslaught, striking three sixes and two fours off Hamish Bennett in the last over of the power play. Rahul too looked fluent for his 27 but Colin de Grandhomme removed the right-hander to give New Zealand an opening.

That somewhat slowed India's progress as they managed only 25 off the next five while losing Rohit and Shivam Dube, the latter of whom had been promoted to no.3. Kohli steadied India with a 27-ball 38, before Manish Pandey and Ravindra Jadeja's late blitz took the score to 179/5 at the completion of 20 overs.

Martin Guptill and Colin Munro gave a brisk start to the chase, adding 47 in 5.4 overs before falling in quick succession to Shardul Thakur and Ravindra Jadeja respectively. Williamson though kept the run-rate under control with some eye-catching strokes, and outscored Mitchell Santner, Colin de Grandhomme and Ross Taylor during the course of the innings. That however, wasn't enough to prevent the agonizing fate.

The fourth T20I of the series will be played at Wellington's Westpac stadium on Friday, January 31.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1592099
 
India was never in the contest during the chase, despite some posters here thinking Dhoni would pull off an improbable chase.

They dominated your bowlers from the get-go. They dismantled your spinners brutally, which had been the strong point of your campaign. They were always ahead, despite Sharma and Kohli batting together.

That's domination, so this poster needs to show England some respect.

Yes I already mentioned it was a must-win for them. To perform at that level under severe pressure of getting knocked out of a home WC, speaks volumes of the character in that England ODI team.

Some of the Indian posters will hate to admit it, but we lost that match when Eng cruised to 160-0 in just 20 overs. And later, the middle order of Pant, Pandya, Jadhav & aging Thala was never a match for their brilliant performers. But again, same ENG lost against Lanka, Pak and Aus with the same team, too. So, I don't think they got upper hand across all teams currently, but they do have over India for sure.
 
The way England mercilessly dominated your lot in a must win game for them in the WC, I would have a bit more respect for them. Played spin quite well that day if you remember.

England altered the ground to combat our spinners rofl. rigged boundary. They were so scared. we dint have dhawan either. Plus bairstow was supposed to be out at 15 or something. they got lucky.
 
England see hosts Australia as the danger team in Australia t20 world cup, India are no match, England have to much fire power in both batting and bowling

india will humiliate England don't worry. in t20 india is better. unless englsnd play on rigged pitches with altered boundaries then maybe. Any pitch that helps sealers England is dead.
 
india will humiliate England don't worry. in t20 india is better. unless englsnd play on rigged pitches with altered boundaries then maybe. Any pitch that helps sealers England is dead.

Do you have something called 'brain' before posting,because of this kind of confidence and arrogance we choke.
 
India
England
Australia

These are the top 3 sides in T20I cricket. All other teams are interchangeable and it depends on the conditions.
 
Do you have something called 'brain' before posting,because of this kind of confidence and arrogance we choke.

you sound a bit confused mate. India beat them in bilaterals away with a weakened team and at home. bilaterals don't count yes but india if they pick th3 right team should win the tournament comfortably. However that depends on kaptaan who is dumb. so let's see.
 
Also next world cup in India I can't see anyone stopping England, Indian wickets in limited overs are great batting tracks and we have the most destructive line up in world cricket
 
Terrific comeback victory and epic choke by NZ. Rohit and Shami sealing the victory and a sweet series win. Congrats India. Tough luck NZ but you only have yourself to blame.

Shardul came good with the ball today and his batting always lends additional dimension. Once Pandya is back , the competition will only get tougher and hope we have this spot sealed.

Dubey is a great prospect and needs more match time for his confidence. Don’t necessarily agree with Kohli dropping down the order but I believe we might see that happen again this series with the team looking to experiment and give exposure to as many as possible.

Kohli said at post match about giving bench players more chance , so excited to see Saini and Sundar getting a game. Hopefully Pandey gets some more batting as well.

Too many wrist slitters on PP , wanting everybody dropped after a bad game. It was Iyer before and Dubey / Shardul now. Thankfully the selectors and management adopt the long rope policy.

Or fielding and catching are very worrying and fielding coach needs to be put on probation.
 
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Also next world cup in India I can't see anyone stopping England, Indian wickets in limited overs are great batting tracks and we have the most destructive line up in world cricket

india will make sure they prepare rank turners if they face England hehe in the semis or quarters.
 
india will make sure they prepare rank turners if they face England hehe in the semis or quarters.

Lol come on, may the best team win on a flat track, banton, Roy, buttler, hales, bairstow, stokes, may be Morgan, root, on a flat track this line up could massacre teams
 
you sound a bit confused mate. India beat them in bilaterals away with a weakened team and at home. bilaterals don't count yes but india if they pick th3 right team should win the tournament comfortably. However that depends on kaptaan who is dumb. so let's see.

I do think the winner for t20 will come from India Australia England
 
The way England mercilessly dominated your lot in a must win game for them in the WC, I would have a bit more respect for them. Played spin quite well that day if you remember.

That is why i said "altered side boundaries". At Bangaluru Chahal took 6feragainst them. In England Kuldeep took 6fer against them. Both of their last series home and away was a loss. They can pack their side with hacks suitable for Trendbridge type pitches. Bit of spin they will find themselves in trouble. Anybody can beat anybody in T20. Nobody is invincible.
 
Lol come on, may the best team win on a flat track, banton, Roy, buttler, hales, bairstow, stokes, may be Morgan, root, on a flat track this line up could massacre teams

It comes down to hitting form at that time. Same team struggled against Srilanka when there was little bit of slowness on the surface. FTB theory sure worked in England. Not sure they can do the same outside. Even in England but for Dhoni's inept batting India almost gunned down teh chase.
 
Loool, bantom, buttler, stokes, Morgan, hales, Roy, bairstow , will despatch attacks in to space, and in woods and archer the 2 fastest and gun quicks in limited overs cricket.
Pace means nothing without control and woods in Ltd over is rubbish as doesn't swing. Archer alone won't do much, they have no one to support him.
 
india will make sure they prepare rank turners if they face England hehe in the semis or quarters.

Also next world cup in India I can't see anyone stopping England, Indian wickets in limited overs are great batting tracks and we have the most destructive line up in world cricket

The WC in India will have something for the spinners. Won’t be Rank Turners but there will be something for the decent bowlers.

Teams bowling 20 overs over of spin will stand a greater chance than those with 10. Of course, quality will matter as well.

People might say that Indian pitches are flat, and they might even for JAMODIS, but for ICC tournaments, there has always been something for the bowlers. In 2006, 2011 and 2016 there was enough for good bowlers.

There will be flat pancakes too, but 270-280 would be competitive scores on most tracks.
 
Lol come on, may the best team win on a flat track, banton, Roy, buttler, hales, bairstow, stokes, may be Morgan, root, on a flat track this line up could massacre teams

yes absolutely but we are also sorting our middle order now hey. Rahul pushed back to middle order seems good. iyer is solid. Just need one more. England's middler order is the best defintiely. Talking about odi ofcourse. t20 anyone's game.
 
Lets hope we seal this 15 for WC T20...we are all set...no need of further experimentation unless someone had a blinder of IPL.

Rohit
Rahul / Dhawan
Kohli
Iyer
Pandey/Pant
Pandya
Jadeja
Kuldeep /Chahal
Chahar
Bumrah
Shami/Saini

Dhawan and Jaddu are trash in T20s.

Bhuvi is a must
 
The way England mercilessly dominated your lot in a must win game for them in the WC, I would have a bit more respect for them. Played spin quite well that day if you remember.
Last WC was ODI. We beat them 2-1 in T20s in the same tour. Archer has already become a trundler and I would back our batsmen to chase anything theirs put on in T20.
 
Shami is the man of the match for me. Incredible feat to force the game to super over when 3 runs were required in last 5 balls and opposition had 6 wickets remaining. Mighty impressed with the way he raised his game in t20s in a matter of few matches. An amazing all format all condition bowler.
 
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Shami is the man of the match for me. Incredible feat to force the game to super over when 3 runs were required in last 5 balls and opposition had 6 wickets remaining. Mighty impressed with the way he raised his game in t20s in a matter of few matches. An amazing all format all condition bowler.

He has a poor T20 record but if he keeps this form he must go to Aus
 
Shami is the man of the match for me. Incredible feat to force the game to super over when 3 runs were required in last 5 balls and opposition had 6 wickets remaining. Mighty impressed with the way he raised his game in t20s in a matter of few matches. An amazing all format all condition bowler.

Thakur is MOM by not going for plenty. 3 overs 2 for 21 is like gold dust lol Today so many unusual things happened. Bumrah went for runs. Shami/Thakur did better. KW played an uncharacteristic T20 innings.
 
“Super Overs aren’t really New Zealand’s friend,” skipper Kane Williamson said after a heart-breaking loss to India in the thrilling third T20 International here on Wednesday.

India defeated the Black Caps via Super Over to take an unassailable 3-0 lead in the five-match series. Rohit Sharma smashed consecutive sixes in the final two balls of the eliminator to lead the visitor to its maiden T20 series win in New Zealand.

The defeat brought back memories of the 2019 World Cup final, which New Zealand agonisingly lost to England on boundary count.

“Super Overs aren’t really our friends. To be honest we would have liked to get across the line earlier and not in the Super Over. It’s just a shame that we couldn’t get past the line,” said a disappointed Williamson at the post-match press conference.

“It is pretty disappointing to be on the wrong side of the result after doing a lot of hard work. (But) there was a lot of improvement after the first two games.

“If we reflect on the match, then it was a brilliant game. India had a good total on that surface and they did well with the ball because it was taking some turn as well. The guys fought back nicely after the start India got with the bat. And we were able to build partnerships and take the game deep,” he added.

Asked about yet another disappointing outing in the Super Over, the New Zealand skipper said: “In my opinion we shouldn’t have them (jokingly). Look it is what it is. It’s good fun. We had a full house at midnight, which is really cool. It’s good entertainment.

“I am probably not the person to ask as we came second in the Super Over tonight like a few other times. So it was not ideal but people have enjoyed that, and that’s fine.”

Williamson did all he could, both in the run chase (95 off 48 balls) and the Super Over (11), but still it did not prove to be enough.

Williamson was especially harsh on Jasprit Bumrah (0/45), who had an off day and then was expensive in the Super Over as well.

“You are just trying to do what is required for the team, as best you can, and there are a number of other contributions that are really important,” Williamson said.

“Starting on that surface was quite challenging. Everybody found so but once you got in then you try to get a bit of rhythm and the partnerships were the most positive thing of that run-chase. Overall it was a much better performance.”

Williamson, however, said he didn’t have any specific plan against Bumrah.

“No, not really targeting him (Bumrah), it was just that we need 10s (per over). There are big challenges that we have seen in every game but I guess you are trying to do the best and keep up with the asking rate.”

“Maybe ask AB (de Villiers) or other superstars (how to play Bumrah), but for me I was just trying to look for areas on that surface. It doesn’t always come off but it was nice that we were able to get so close without quite getting across the line,” he added.

Williamson believes New Zealand has made progress in the T20 format, especially after losing the first two games in Auckland.

The next two matches of the series will be played in Wellington and Mt Maunganui within the next four days.

“The second game in Auckland wasn’t our best game, it was a tough surface and the T20 format is a game of small margins,” he said.

“As we have seen throughout these and other couple of games, India’s experience helped them to come through some crunch moments. But it is a game of small margins so we want to learn from this and use this experience to get better.

“Yes it was close and an emotional roller coaster. But we have to keep moving our focus forward. We know the quality of the Indian side but for us it is important to keep moving as a group,” he said.

https://sportstar.thehindu.com/cric...liamson-super-over-defeat/article30685328.ece
 
Thakur is MOM by not going for plenty. 3 overs 2 for 21 is like gold dust lol Today so many unusual things happened. Bumrah went for runs. Shami/Thakur did better. KW played an uncharacteristic T20 innings.

Jadeja dropped a catch.
 
off day for bumrah and Kane played a blinder, feels a shame that that performance wasn't rewarded with a win. took apart our best bowler quite easily. Having said that i trust us to do well in australia when the t20 wc comes around, it suits our style of batting which is tilted more towards skill than just power and improvisation and our wrist spinners have a lot more margin for error there where mishits won't go for 6. We need to make sure we don't play the likes of Pandey, Shardul and Dubey though, all they do is make up the numbers while better and more deserving players sit it out. This harebrained selection policy and squad management was one of the reasons why we lost that WC semi where persisting with the likes of jadhav, rayudu and karthik didn't do us any good in an important game when we had players like Iyer and SKY tearing it up in domestic cricket.

Spare of thought for Nzl though, they can't seem to catch a break in these close games at all. I had swiched off with 9 balls to go almost sure that we were losing to see that a super over was happening and we went on to win in the last ball. :))
 
i dont believe in Super over win, as far as i am concerned the series is 2-0 with 2 matches to go.
 
except in ICC knockouts

Good teams don't rely one or two players from start to finish. Then that is not a good team. Different players have to step up different times. Australia was 10/4 in 1996 world cup semi with top order blown away in the semi-final. Late order scratched around put up a total of 210 and won the match.
 
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