India elects terror-accused Hindu hardliner Pragya Thakur who’s a fan of Mahatma Gandhi’s assassin

[Abdullah719]

India elects terror-accused Hindu hardliner Pragya Thakur who’s a fan of Mahatma Gandhi’s assassin

India is set to elect Pragya Thakur, a terror accused woman and a fan of Mahatma Gandhi’s assassin, to parliament.

Today (May 23), the counting of votes in India’s mammoth general election showed prime minister Narendra Modi almost certainly returning for a second term. In Bhopal, Madhya Pradesh, the constituency from which Thakur is contesting for Modi’s Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), she was reportedly leading by over 40,000 votes as of 2 pm. As the numbers poured in, she had already begun celebrating, reports said.

The 49-year-old Thakur was arrested in 2008 for involvement in the Malegaon blasts—bombings in Muslim neighbourhoods that killed at least six people and wounded over 100. She was cleared of charges under the Maharashtra Control of Organised Crime Act, but still faces a battery of other charges, including terror.

Thakur, who prefixes the Hindu religious title sadhvi (holy woman) to her name, has exhorted Indians to vote for the BJP so that “nationalism wins, Hindus win,” Buzzfeed reported. Last week she made headlines by calling Nathuram Godse, the man who assassinated Gandhi, a patriot.

The BJP’s strident Hindu nationalism has only gotten more intense since Modi became prime minister in 2014, with violence against minorities, including majoritarian lynchings, seeing a stark rise under his rule.

Many saw the party bestowing a terror accused with a ticket as a high watermark of this phenomenon and a sign that it will only worsen in coming years.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The most painful news is terror accused Pragya Thakur leading. Is this New India? Or is this Hindu India?</p>— nikhil wagle (@waglenikhil) <a href="https://twitter.com/waglenikhil/status/1131427520350490626?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Charged under UAPA for Malegaon blasts that killed muslims, called Nathuram Godse a hero, Pragya Thakur, a member of Abhinav Bharat, proponent of Hindu Rashtra is all set to enter the Indian parliament as our MP. You could not have been more explicit than this my country.</p>— Rana Ayyub (@RanaAyyub) <a href="https://twitter.com/RanaAyyub/status/1131459246258905088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ladies and gentlemen terror accused Pragya Thakur is leading. <br>Is this how the next parliament going to look like ? <a href="https://t.co/HlZf675OHc">https://t.co/HlZf675OHc</a></p>— Arfa Khanum Sherwani (@khanumarfa) <a href="https://twitter.com/khanumarfa/status/1131416022559404032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2019</a></blockquote>
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https://qz.com/india/1626137/india-to-get-terror-accused-parliamentarian-in-pragya-thakur/

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pragya Thakur, a terror accused stoked a controversy this month by calling the killer of India’s independence hero, Mohandas Gandhi, a patriot.<br><br>She has won by a margin of over 300,000 votes. Thakur will now a lawmaker in India. <a href="https://t.co/U8EqpZkdHk">https://t.co/U8EqpZkdHk</a></p>— Uzair Hasan Rizvi (@RizviUzair) <a href="https://twitter.com/RizviUzair/status/1131676793461592064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Tubs]

Absolutely disgusting. This would be like Mumtaz Qadri getting acquitted and being elected into parliament. It is very worrying, and seems that Hindu extremism is going to be a huge threat in South Asia.

 

[slipcatch]

Absolutely disgusting. This would be like Mumtaz Qadri getting acquitted and being elected into parliament. It is very worrying, and seems that Hindu extremism is going to be a huge threat in South Asia.

It is already a threat.

Elected radicalized extremists Hindu nationalists PM tried to start a war on false pretext, caused the deaths of the Indians soldier, spread the fake and false news, blamed the failure of strike on not having enough clouds, and the most scary part is that educated Hindu nationalists believed everything he had said just because he will make India Hindu again.

India’s biggest threat is not external, it is internal from radicalized extremists Hindu nationalists, who have elected Hindu terrorists.

 

[kabbirann]

As someone who has lived in Bhopal,this result was shocking.
Somehow, I thought Bhopal was better than this.
Indian Hindus have clearly chosen to go down a very different path.

 

[Waseem]

Apparently she won with massive lead of 300,000 as well which is slap on the face of people who actually thought person who is not only terror convict but called Gandhi's killer a hero will be rejected.

This is the dark side of democracy, people elect terror convicts, extremists, hatemongers, convicted criminals, corrupts and thugs and even celebrate as success.

 

[USaqaf]

"accused" is the operative word, not to mention 7 years in jail, beaten starved yet not one shred of proof against her.
BTW Rahul Gandhi is also " accused"

 

[Waseem]

"accused" is the operative word, not to mention 7 years in jail, beaten starved yet not one shred of proof against her.
BTW Rahul Gandhi is also " accused"

This is pretty much like Nawaz Sharif's supporters in Pakistan. On one side they defend billions worth corruption of Nawaz Sharif but then use Imran Khan's land registry issue to pretend they are both corrupt. You know very well there is world of difference between Pragya and Rahul so extremely poor comparison there.

Samjhauta express terrorists were just accused
Modi was just accused
Pragya was just accused

Most know what the reality is but obviously being supporters they would want to pretend that nothing really happened and all those attacks were carried out by aliens.

 

[Waseem]

Pragya's election win raises another big question. Who allowed her to contest elections?
I thought Indian election commission was far more competent than us and their courts were under no pressure?
And obviously their establishment takes no part in elections right?

How was this terrorist freed from jail after years and even allowed to contest elections?

Of course biggest question is how she managed to win with such a lead but that's democracy for you.

 

[USaqaf]

This is pretty much like Nawaz Sharif's supporters in Pakistan. On one side they defend billions worth corruption of Nawaz Sharif but then use Imran Khan's land registry issue to pretend they are both corrupt. You know very well there is world of difference between Pragya and Rahul so extremely poor comparison there.

Samjhauta express terrorists were just accused
Modi was just accused
Pragya was just accused

Most know what the reality is but obviously being supporters they would want to pretend that nothing really happened and all those attacks were carried out by aliens.

Congress has a history of "creating" a narrative to protect their vote bank, that's a fact.
That's what happened here.
If she's so guilty get the evidence and prosecute. You don't convict just because "most know" something. This is not Somalia, wait let me guess your response, even Somalia delivers better justice than India.

 

[MP2011]

Pragya's election win raises another big question. Who allowed her to contest elections?
I thought Indian election commission was far more competent than us and their courts were under no pressure?
And obviously their establishment takes no part in elections right?

How was this terrorist freed from jail after years and even allowed to contest elections?

Of course biggest question is how she managed to win with such a lead but that's democracy for you.

EC (and all other democratic and independent institutions in India) under Modi has become absolutely toothless, in fact it kowtows Modi.

As for why she won, well quite a few of her ilk have won, just that you are not too familiar with them.

 

[MP2011]

This is pretty much like Nawaz Sharif's supporters in Pakistan. On one side they defend billions worth corruption of Nawaz Sharif but then use Imran Khan's land registry issue to pretend they are both corrupt. You know very well there is world of difference between Pragya and Rahul so extremely poor comparison there.

Samjhauta express terrorists were just accused
Modi was just accused
Pragya was just accused

Most know what the reality is but obviously being supporters they would want to pretend that nothing really happened and all those attacks were carried out by aliens.

Do not expect anything sensible from this tribe.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

It is already a threat.

Elected radicalized extremists Hindu nationalists PM tried to start a war on false pretext, caused the deaths of the Indians soldier, spread the fake and false news, blamed the failure of strike on not having enough clouds, and the most scary part is that educated Hindu nationalists believed everything he had said just because he will make India Hindu again.

India’s biggest threat is not external, it is internal from radicalized extremists Hindu nationalists, who have elected Hindu terrorists.

So now terror has a religion

 

[CricketCartoons]

She is an idiot. No hindu hardliner should be a fan of Godse. Godse gave the anti hindus a free reign and gave a bad name to the fight for Hindu Nation and made the anti hindu gandhi a martyr.

Modi is just a means to the end and our good fight is not over towards establishing the rule of the Divine in this Holy Motherland.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Apparently she won with massive lead of 300,000 as well which is slap on the face of people who actually thought person who is not only terror convict but called Gandhi's killer a hero will be rejected.

This is the dark side of democracy, people elect terror convicts, extremists, hatemongers, convicted criminals, corrupts and thugs and even celebrate as success.

When was she convicted?

 

[cricketjoshila]

This is pretty much like Nawaz Sharif's supporters in Pakistan. On one side they defend billions worth corruption of Nawaz Sharif but then use Imran Khan's land registry issue to pretend they are both corrupt. You know very well there is world of difference between Pragya and Rahul so extremely poor comparison there.

Samjhauta express terrorists were just accused
Modi was just accused
Pragya was just accused

Most know what the reality is but obviously being supporters they would want to pretend that nothing really happened and all those attacks were carried out by aliens.

Yes accused. Accusation doesnot make anyone a criminal.


People living in India know the reality more than a non Indian.

What do you know about congress and its ecosystem? Any idea?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Pragya's election win raises another big question. Who allowed her to contest elections?
I thought Indian election commission was far more competent than us and their courts were under no pressure?
And obviously their establishment takes no part in elections right?

How was this terrorist freed from jail after years and even allowed to contest elections?

Of course biggest question is how she managed to win with such a lead but that's democracy for you.

Accusation doesnot bar anyone from election. Conviction does.

 

[cricketjoshila]

So now terror has a religion

Thats the fun here.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

She is a legitimate representative of modern India. The Gandhi dynasty no longer represents India with their Italian bloodline, this is the future.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Godse was not your typical brainless dumb thug.

Yes, he chose a despicable route of killing Gandhi but he was a man of principles.

I don't think anyone making any points in favor of Godse ideology (not action) should be immediately ostracized and ridiculed.

With that being said, Sadhvi is a joke of a person.

No accomplishment in life except going to jail.

Very likely she was guilty of terror.

And who the hell is she to hand out patriotism certificates lol.

But then BJP is beyond shameless so they will field her. But then she won so it's all fair.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

So they've elected someone who thinks her cancer was cured by cow waste and thinks Godse was a patriot.
Sounds routine by Indian standards. I don't know why anyone's surprised.

 

[slipcatch]

So now terror has a religion

Hindutva getting upset is understandable but I thought most didn’t care if they were called terrorists as long as they get to make India Hindu again?

 

[Stewie]

Is this any surprise?

Hindus are trying to match Al Qaeda and ISIS type organizations by electing people like her and Modi. Hopefully common sense will prevail. Extremists of all types are bad!

 

[the Great Khan]

Yawn..why is anybody surprised? I mean really? I think the 200 million Muslims in india will now be wishing they had a Jinnah to help them..

 

[Technics 1210]

It is no secret that Godse (the man who assassinated Gandhi) is revered within the terrorist BJP party, to the extent his portrait is hanging in every major BJP office.

The history of independent India started with Hindu terrorism, and continues with Hindu terrorism at the helm, and with Modi winning the election with a higher mandate, BJP is officially the largest terrorist organisation in the world.

 

[Technics 1210]

Godse was not your typical brainless dumb thug.

Yes, he chose a despicable route of killing Gandhi but he was a man of principles.

I don't think anyone making any points in favor of Godse ideology (not action) should be immediately ostracized and ridiculed.

These words just sum up the attitude and problem in India. An attempt at justifying both terrorism and the extremist ideology, Hindutva.

Put simply, according to Indians, it's ok to terrorize, murder, and maim, as long as the principles of Hindutva are honoured and preserved!

Welcome to democratic India.

 

[Thomaskutty]

godse was not your typical brainless dumb thug.

Yes, he chose a despicable route of killing gandhi but he was a man of principles.

I don't think anyone making any points in favor of godse ideology (not action) should be immediately ostracized and ridiculed.

A principled murderer

 

[cricketjoshila]

Poster in his frustration adding Namak to the facts. But it isnt going to reverse them. )

 

[troodon]

Is this any surprise?

Hindus are trying to match Al Qaeda and ISIS type organizations by electing people like her and Modi. Hopefully common sense will prevail. Extremists of all types are bad!

They need to do a lot more to be even in discussion with the ATG outfits like Al Qaeda and ISIS

A bomb blast here and a few statements there will not get them even close to Altaf Hussein.

 

[USaqaf]

A principled murderer

One who mind you even the framer of the Constitution Ambedkar concurred with.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

How is she different from Hafiz Saeed?

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

So they've elected someone who thinks her cancer was cured by cow waste and thinks Godse was a patriot.
Sounds routine by Indian standards. I don't know why anyone's surprised.

Is this any surprise?

Hindus are trying to match Al Qaeda and ISIS type organizations by electing people like her and Modi. Hopefully common sense will prevail. Extremists of all types are bad!

Majority of people in india don't give two hoots about the candidate from their respective constituencies.
Sadhvi won because the people wanted to see bjp on the throne.
People like her will have no say in governance,can you even imagine an idiot like her getting involved in regular work of an Mp. She is just there to follow bjps orders.
But yeah it is quite awful to see people like her getting selected.

 

[WebGuru]

How is she different from Hafiz Saeed?

She is female and 'not muslim'

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

How is she different from Hafiz Saeed?

She isn't a UN certified terrorist.

 

[WebGuru]

She isn't a UN certified terrorist.

Why India only use UN as a card when it suits them?

2 days ago:

"India cuts off UN panel after Jammu & Kashmir report"

https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...fter-jammu-kashmir-report/article27190445.ece

Because India was exposed in the report how they were killing innocents on the name of militants.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Godse was not your typical brainless dumb thug.

Yes, he chose a despicable route of killing Gandhi but he was a man of principles.

I don't think anyone making any points in favor of Godse ideology (not action) should be immediately ostracized and ridiculed.

With that being said, Sadhvi is a joke of a person.

No accomplishment in life except going to jail.

Very likely she was guilty of terror.

And who the hell is she to hand out patriotism certificates lol.

But then BJP is beyond shameless so they will field her. But then she won so it's all fair.

It is no secret that Godse (the man who assassinated Gandhi) is revered within the terrorist BJP party, to the extent his portrait is hanging in every major BJP office.

The history of independent India started with Hindu terrorism, and continues with Hindu terrorism at the helm, and with Modi winning the election with a higher mandate, BJP is officially the largest terrorist organisation in the world.

A principled murderer

Mahatma Gandhi (Prayer meeting, April 6, 1947, New Delhi, CWMG Vol. 94 page 249)
Hindus should not harbor anger in their hearts against Muslims even if the latter wanted to destroy them. Even if the Muslims want to kill us all we should face death bravely. If they established their rule after killing Hindus we would be ushering in a new world by sacrificing our lives. None should fear death. Birth and death are inevitable for every human being. Why should we then rejoice or grieve? If we die with a smile we shall enter into a new life, we shall be ushering in a new India."

Godse is surely a murderer and he deserves no praise.
Godse was a hindu sanghatanisht, he had immense love for hinduism and a guy like him (yes i agree he wasn't secular) could never bear statements like these. Gandhi's muslim appeasement on the cost of hindu angered him and he took that step.

So yeah he was a muderer but gandhi wasn't a saint, MK Gandhi is the most complex person in the history of mankind. If you start reading more about Gandhi you won't understand whether to love or hate him. He was cut from different cloth.
Read Godse's last speech in court before he was sentenced to death, he wasn't an immature idiot, SIF is right.

 

[Technics 1210]

Mahatma Gandhi (Prayer meeting, April 6, 1947, New Delhi, CWMG Vol. 94 page 249)
Hindus should not harbor anger in their hearts against Muslims even if the latter wanted to destroy them. Even if the Muslims want to kill us all we should face death bravely. If they established their rule after killing Hindus we would be ushering in a new world by sacrificing our lives. None should fear death. Birth and death are inevitable for every human being. Why should we then rejoice or grieve? If we die with a smile we shall enter into a new life, we shall be ushering in a new India."

Godse is surely a murderer and he deserves no praise.
Godse was a hindu sanghatanisht, he had immense love for hinduism and a guy like him (yes i agree he wasn't secular) could never bear statements like these. Gandhi's muslim appeasement on the cost of hindu angered him and he took that step.

So yeah he was a muderer but gandhi wasn't a saint, MK Gandhi is the most complex person in the history of mankind. If you start reading more about Gandhi you won't understand whether to love or hate him. He was cut from different cloth.
Read Godse's last speech in court before he was sentenced to death, he wasn't an immature idiot, SIF is right.

So there it is folks, Hindutva advocates and justifies the death of complex people.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Mahatma Gandhi (Prayer meeting, April 6, 1947, New Delhi, CWMG Vol. 94 page 249)
Hindus should not harbor anger in their hearts against Muslims even if the latter wanted to destroy them. Even if the Muslims want to kill us all we should face death bravely. If they established their rule after killing Hindus we would be ushering in a new world by sacrificing our lives. None should fear death. Birth and death are inevitable for every human being. Why should we then rejoice or grieve? If we die with a smile we shall enter into a new life, we shall be ushering in a new India."

Godse is surely a murderer and he deserves no praise.
Godse was a hindu sanghatanisht, he had immense love for hinduism and a guy like him (yes i agree he wasn't secular) could never bear statements like these. Gandhi's muslim appeasement on the cost of hindu angered him and he took that step.

So yeah he was a muderer but gandhi wasn't a saint, MK Gandhi is the most complex person in the history of mankind. If you start reading more about Gandhi you won't understand whether to love or hate him. He was cut from different cloth.
Read Godse's last speech in court before he was sentenced to death, he wasn't an immature idiot, SIF is right.

Are you a Pragya Thakur bh@kht?

 

[CricketCartoons]

As usual, the haters of our glorious civilization can't see the rise of our dukhtar-e-hind, just one of many warriorress ready to sacrifice your life to protect their Holy land.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Mahatma Gandhi (Prayer meeting, April 6, 1947, New Delhi, CWMG Vol. 94 page 249)

Stopped reading after the first word. Mohandas was no mahatma.

 

[jagatk]

So there it is folks, Hindutva advocates and justifies the death of complex people.

So saying that Godse was not just some random thug who killed someone is now advocating death of people. Why so hateful buddy?

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

So there it is folks, Hindutva advocates and justifies the death of complex people.

No one justified it.
Read it only after removing biased glasses.

 

[WebGuru]

Some are bashing Nehru in the other thread and some are bashing Gandhi what exactly is gone wrong with indians? [MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION]

 

[Technics 1210]

So saying that Godse was not just some random thug who killed someone is now advocating death of people. Why so hateful buddy?

You are defending and justifying the actions of Godse by claiming he was intelligent and assassinated Gandhi who was complex, for the love of his religion and nation!

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Are you a Pragya Thakur bh@kht?

I don't like her. I don't want people like her to get anywhere close to our Parliament.
Not everyone who opposes gandhi is a bjp supporter.
I prefer seeing things from more than one perspective.

 

[jagatk]

She is a legitimate representative of modern India. The Gandhi dynasty no longer represents India with their Italian bloodline, this is the future.

You lot had farage leading you while making its biggest decision, mocking others about choice of leaders, really.

 

[Technics 1210]

You lot had farage leading you while making its biggest decision, mocking others about choice of leaders, really.

Farage for all his faults was never accused of terrorism, doesn't have blood on his hands, nor was he banned from entering the USA based on religious terrorism.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Not everyone is absolute in his/her views. I never understood gandhi, so i can't really say that he was perfect and the sole reason of india's independence.

And i am not justifying godses crime, i don't know why you people are so obtuse.

 

[Technics 1210]

Not everyone is absolute in his/her views. I never understood gandhi, so i can't really say that he was perfect and the sole reason of india's independence.

And i am not justifying godses crime, i don't know why you people are so obtuse.

You justified Godse's crime by highlighting what a complex person Gandhi was - why is Gandhi's personality relevant, and by stating Godse's love of his religion and country.

You have let the cat out of the bag, not that we didn't have a good idea anyway.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Some are bashing Nehru in the other thread and some are bashing Gandhi what exactly is gone wrong with indians? [MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION]

Modi's win has made them arrogant. This is 'New Hindustan'.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

You justified Godse's crime by highlighting what a complex person Gandhi was - why is Gandhi's personality relevant, and by stating Godse's love of his religion and country.

You have let the cat out of the bag, not that we didn't have a good idea anyway.

Godse was guilty and got what he deserved.

Did you read the first para where gandhi says its ok for muslims to kill hindus, i find it really disturbing.
Gandhi was the most followed person in india at that time, his speech was of great importance, more important than any PM's speech. Now imagine a PM saying this for 80% population of his country.

 

[Technics 1210]

Godse was guilty and got what he deserved.

Did you read the first para where gandhi says its ok for muslims to kill hindus, i find it really disturbing.
Gandhi was the most followed person in india at that time, his speech was of great importance, more important than any PM's speech. Now imagine a PM saying this for 80% population of his country.

Then stop at the bold text.

Your next paragraph is the justification. You start by saying Gandhi said it was ok for Muslims to kill Hindus (even though he didn't say these exact words). Then follow up by insinuating Gandhi triggered 80% of the population.

 

[USaqaf]

Modi's win has made them confident. This is 'New Hindustan'.

fixed.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Then stop at the bold text.

Your next paragraph is the justification. You start by saying Gandhi said it was ok for Muslims to kill Hindus (even though he didn't say these exact words). Then follow up by insinuating Gandhi triggered 80% of the population.

Not everything is absolute.

 

[jagatk]

Farage for all his faults was never accused of terrorism, doesn't have blood on his hands, nor was he banned from entering the USA based on religious terrorism.

USA elected trump, killed presidents who it didn't like, started wars on false premises. So I don't give a flying crap what it decides, the same USA who banned modi, basically laid out a redcarpet for him.

Also Modi has never been accused of terrorism, and pragya isn't banned from USA, so makeup your mind who you are talking about.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Some are bashing Nehru in the other thread and some are bashing Gandhi what exactly is gone wrong with indians? [MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION]

We need another round of demonetization. I am sure everyone will start loving Gandhi again.

 

[jagatk]

Then stop at the bold text.

Your next paragraph is the justification. You start by saying Gandhi said it was ok for Muslims to kill Hindus (even though he didn't say these exact words). Then follow up by insinuating Gandhi triggered 80% of the population.

To call Gandhi a complex man isn't something crazy, Gandhi was a shrewd politician who achieved little outside of tooting his own horn, His first aim was Dominion rule, he couldn't get that, Then it was Purna swaraj, did not achieve it either. India's independece or yours had little to do with Gandhi. Then his actions post independence left a lot of people unhappy, then there are the more obscure aspects of his life. Be it his thoughts about Africans or his little experiments in his old age post his wife's death. If anyone thinks Gandhi was some sort of a saint, they haven't read their history well.

 

[Technics 1210]

USA elected trump, killed presidents who it didn't like, started wars on false premises. So I don't give a flying **** what it decides, the same USA who banned modi, basically laid out a redcarpet for him.

Also Modi has never been accused of terrorism, and pragya isn't banned from USA, so makeup your mind who you are talking about.

I mentioned *HIS*. Not obvious enough?

I was referring to Modi, the leader of the largest terrorist organisation, the BJP. Yes he was banned from the USA based on religious terrorism (Gurjat may jog your memory). The red carpet is typical of USA, they claim a person is a terrorist, and when they need something, anoint the same person for sainthood.

You need to come back with something better than Farage, who is not even an MP let alone an elected leader! At least compare apples with oranges, and not apples with potatoes.

 

[jagatk]

Some are bashing Nehru in the other thread and some are bashing Gandhi what exactly is gone wrong with indians? [MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION]

So it is now considered wrong to question historic figures who people are putting on a pedestal?

 

[WebGuru]

We need another round of demonetization. I am sure everyone will start loving Gandhi again.

Sounds like a great plan

 

[Technics 1210]

To call Gandhi a complex man isn't something crazy, Gandhi was a shrewd politician who achieved little outside of tooting his own horn, His first aim was Dominion rule, he couldn't get that, Then it was Purna swaraj, did not achieve it either. India's independece or yours had little to do with Gandhi. Then his actions post independence left a lot of people unhappy, then there are the more obscure aspects of his life. Be it his thoughts about Africans or his little experiments in his old age post his wife's death. If anyone thinks Gandhi was some sort of a saint, they haven't read their history well.

I am surprised at this view. I get he was not perfect, but I would say before BJP came into power, he wasn't at the receiving end of such negativity!

That pesky Richard Attenborough and his Gandhi movie winning best movie at that Oscars!

 

[jagatk]

I mentioned *HIS*. Not obvious enough?

I was referring to Modi, the leader of the largest terrorist organisation, the BJP. Yes he was banned from the USA based on religious terrorism (Gurjat may jog your memory). The red carpet is typical of USA, they claim a person is a terrorist, and when they need something, anoint the same person for sainthood.

You need to come back with something better than Farage, who is not even an MP let alone an elected leader! At least compare apples with oranges, and not apples with potatoes.

Calling it terrorism won't make it so. Literally no one referred it to as terrorism. It's funny how USA is a two faced twerp when it welcomes modi, but the shining example of how evil modi is when it bans him. Can't have it both ways, pick one. It's either they are two faced so their ban means nothing, or they banned him and then welcomed him later which proves they were wrong.

My post was about a british man mocking us about choice of leaders, Farage was the leader you listened to when you voted for brexit, He was the face of brexit.

About comparisons, maybe read the british history of how it treated the Irish, that should be a apple and apples comparison.

 

[Technics 1210]

Calling it terrorism won't make it so. Literally no one referred it to as terrorism. It's funny how USA is a two faced twerp when it welcomes modi, but the shining example of how evil modi is when it bans him. Can't have it both ways, pick one. It's either they are two faced so their ban means nothing, or they banned him and then welcomed him later which proves they were wrong.

My post was about a british man mocking us about choice of leaders, Farage was the leader you listened to when you voted for brexit, He was the face of brexit.

About comparisons, maybe read the british history of how it treated the Irish, that should be a apple and apples comparison.

Look up Saffron terrorism.

USA is two faced, not just with Modi. Take OBL as an example! OBL was working with the USA fighting Afghanistan, then he was terrorist number 1 when there was no use.

Modi was nothing when he was banned, when he was up for PM, USA (AND UK) removed him from the banned list.

Farage was not an elected leader, unlike the terrorist in the OP. Get the difference? The people did NOT vote for Farage as a leader. Let this sink in.

 

[PakLFC]

Another terrorist joining Hindutva fascists. I see the Ram Mandir being built soon followed by complete chaos.

 

[jagatk]

I am surprised at this view. I get he was not perfect, but I would say before BJP came into power, he wasn't at the receiving end of such negativity!

That pesky Richard Attenborough and his Gandhi movie winning best movie at that Oscars!

He was never perfect, he did a lot of good things. But he failed to achieve what he set out for is a fact and that's something even Congress agreed with, most of what i have stated about his goals and results is something you will find in most History textbooks from 10-15 years ago, so no one can claim BJP or someone else was manipulating history.

We indians are too reverential about dead people, Gandhi achieved little of what he set out for, his last few actions were down right hurtful of indian interests, these are facts.

 

[jagatk]

Look up Saffron terrorism.

USA is two faced, not just with Modi. Take OBL as an example! OBL was working with the USA fighting Afghanistan, then he was terrorist number 1 when there was no use.

Modi was nothing when he was banned, when he was up for PM, USA (AND UK) removed him from the banned list.

Farage was not an elected leader, unlike the terrorist in the OP. Get the difference? The people did NOT vote for Farage as a leader. Let this sink in.

You need to read the whole post, you seem to have some reading impediment where you read 1 line and that is all you want to talk about, I gave you the reason why i talked about farage, I even gave you the comparison you wanted. Any way GN, mate can't reply anymore.

 

[Technics 1210]

You need to read the whole post, you seem to have some reading impediment where you read 1 line and that is all you want to talk about, I gave you the reason why i talked about farage, I even gave you the comparison you wanted. Any way GN, mate can't reply anymore.

You need to read your OWN response. You claimed Farage is a leader by the people by quoting a UK member. I just pointed out the fact that Farage is not an elected leader. Your comparison was not only false but based on ignorance.

 

[Stewie]

Majority of people in india don't give two hoots about the candidate from their respective constituencies.
Sadhvi won because the people wanted to see bjp on the throne.
People like her will have no say in governance,can you even imagine an idiot like her getting involved in regular work of an Mp. She is just there to follow bjps orders.
But yeah it is quite awful to see people like her getting selected.

Thats the point isn’t it? You are voting for party just because of some Ill concieved notion of what is good for you and your country but you are ignoring the sort of politics played and people backed?

Pakistan has never elected or put in office a party that is religious and fundamentalist and yet we catch all the slack. I wonder what if we start falling in this trap, start believing that a hard line Islamic fundamentalist approach is good for us and put someone like Jamate Islami in power? Indians and the world will be all over the media crying shame over it..

Unfortunately by putting blind faith in one party like this your nation is basically showing they are accepting the divisive and hardline ideology and marginalization of certain people. This woman is accused of bombing a minority community of your country and you have voted for her..

Did you see the fares zakaria report was n how India is alarmingly voting for and electing candidates who are accused of major crimes especially cases like murder, terrorism and extortion?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why India only use UN as a card when it suits them?

2 days ago:

"India cuts off UN panel after Jammu & Kashmir report"

https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...fter-jammu-kashmir-report/article27190445.ece

Because India was exposed in the report how they were killing innocents on the name of militants.

Do you understand the difference between a UNSC sanction which is binding on all members and a UNHRC report which was done remotely and is not binding. The UNSC took no cognisance of that report.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Some are bashing Nehru in the other thread and some are bashing Gandhi what exactly is gone wrong with indians? [MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION]

We live in a free country where we are free to disagree with anyone. Nehru was no great leader. While Gandhi was a great leader but not at all perfect.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Calling it terrorism won't make it so. Literally no one referred it to as terrorism. It's funny how USA is a two faced twerp when it welcomes modi, but the shining example of how evil modi is when it bans him. Can't have it both ways, pick one. It's either they are two faced so their ban means nothing, or they banned him and then welcomed him later which proves they were wrong.

My post was about a british man mocking us about choice of leaders, Farage was the leader you listened to when you voted for brexit, He was the face of brexit.

About comparisons, maybe read the british history of how it treated the Irish, that should be a apple and apples comparison.

You have to understand their frustration.

Various pakistanis and pakistani organizations are on UN list for terrorism. So this is the attempt to somehow find a indian equivalent and push an agenda. Because no one around the world is taking the pakistani narrative seriously.

 

[Mian]

You have to understand their frustration.

Various pakistanis and pakistani organizations are on UN list for terrorism. So this is the attempt to somehow find a indian equivalent and push an agenda. Because no one around the world is taking the pakistani narrative seriously.

We all saw whose narrative was taken seriously in February )

When you are you guys going to give the coward pilot a medal for face saving?

 

[Mian]

Soon bh#kts will make sure Gandhi pic is replaced with modi pic on currency notes and in govt offices and Gandhi name will be removed from indian history.

 

[cricketjoshila]

We all saw whose narrative was taken seriously in February )

When you are you guys going to give the coward pilot a medal for face saving?

Who got banned by the UN?

 

[Technics 1210]

Soon bh#kts will make sure Gandhi pic is replaced with modi pic on currency notes and in govt offices and Gandhi name will be removed from indian history.

Wouldn't be surprising, They are already trying to change Indian, and world, history. Inventors of technology during the Flintstones era and all that.

 

[Mian]

Who got banned by the UN?

So the supa power India can't do anything and they always go running to UN oh daddy look this bad boy Pakistan is annoying me please save me

India is such a cry baby supa power )

Maha bharat converted into three pieces and foreigners ruled over you for a thousand years because you guys can't do anything by yourself you always need someone else to do the job for you. Bas baaten kerwa lo tum logon se

 

[Mian]

Wouldn't be surprising, They are already trying to change Indian, and world, history. Inventors of technology during the Flintstones era and all that.

The funny thing is the so called supa power running to daddy UN after every phatina khud kuch nae hota inse )

 

[Technics 1210]

The funny thing is the so called supa power running to daddy UN after every phatina khud kuch nae hota inse )

What's more funny is the father of the UN, USA, banned Modi! No other leader of a nation was bestowed with this honour! Yet this fact eludes them.

Baap baap hota he!

)

 

[Mian]

What's more funny is the father of the UN, USA, banned Modi! No other leader of a nation was bestowed with this honour! Yet this fact eludes them.

Baap baap hota he!

)

This gives me satisfaction to see Indians with a population of 1.3billion and economy far far bigger then us always trying to compete with us be it sports, nukes, army, weapons, toys They are so obsessed and to erase the guilt then they make it look like Pakistan kia cheaz he ) yeh kab bere honge i never saw Chinese/Russians/American competing with smaller nations

 

[Technics 1210]

This gives me satisfaction to see Indians with a population of 1.3billion and economy far far bigger then us always trying to compete with us be it sports, nukes, army, weapons, toys They are so obsessed and to erase the guilt then they make it look like Pakistan kia cheaz he ) yeh kab bere honge i never saw Chinese/Russians/American competing with smaller nations

India will always compare with Pakistan because it gives them the satisfaction of superiority, feeding that DNA embedded insecurity of theirs. That superiority was put in place during CT17 and Feb 2019. Have you noticed how quiet they are just before the World Cup? They learned their lesson - put in their place once again by *foreigners*.

As you say, India would never dream of comparing themselves with China, Russia, USA, or even UK. Certainly not know given the rampant unemployment in India. The only country to boast about high GDP growth but in the same time society is crumbling.

Their claims have been questioned though, by Indians themselves

Raghuram Rajan raises doubts about India growing at 7%, says cloud over GDP data needs to be cleared

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...-needs-to-be-cleared/articleshow/68581012.cms

Now you know the reason why Rajan left, oops, I mean fired, from the Reserve Bank of India.

For balance, even the BBC questioned the growth in 2015

Is India's growth exaggerated?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-32955124

It's all a facade to be honest.