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India end Day 1 of the Second Test against New Zealand on a comfortable 221/4

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Mesozoic said:
Not really. Wicket is extremely challenging and it will only get more and more conducive for spinners. We have it in the bag if we get 250.
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It is challenging no doubt which is the thing I like about Wankhede pitch.

However not sure, how well we'll cope with Jaddu's absence. Bumrah here would have been absolutely lethal. But he seems to have other priorities.
 
MP2011 said:
It is challenging no doubt which is the thing I like about Wankhede pitch.

However not sure, how well we'll cope with Jaddu's absence. Bumrah here would have been absolutely lethal. But he seems to have other priorities.
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Jaddu is a huge miss but NZ too are missing Williamson so their batting order pretty much ends after Latham/Young. Ashwin and Axar are more than enough..especially Axar.
 
Mesozoic said:
Jaddu is a huge miss but NZ too are missing Williamson so their batting order pretty much ends after Latham/Young. Ashwin and Axar are more than enough..especially Axar.
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Williamson is obviously a class act but isn't anything flash in India. Doesn't even average 35 here.
 
And hope you'll be proved right about Ashwin and Axar on this pitch.
 
Good luck chasing anything over 80 on this pitch.. Bang & Ind will not trouble any ICC events anytime soon. Ind can’t beat NZ on a even playing field have to resort to low slow wickets.
 
AAli98 said:
Good luck chasing anything over 80 on this pitch.. Bang & Ind will not trouble any ICC events anytime soon. Ind can’t beat NZ on a even playing field have to resort to low slow wickets.
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Ahh yes "Even playing field"... you mean green mambas in NZ and overcast conditions in England. Anywhere India wins is not "even playing" for you guys. :91:
 
AAli98 said:
Good luck chasing anything over 80 on this pitch.. Bang & Ind will not trouble any ICC events anytime soon. Ind can’t beat NZ on a even playing field have to resort to low slow wickets.
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Lol. Don't cry so early. Just one session completed.
Both team have equal chance.
 
Mesozoic said:
Ahh yes "Even playing field"... you mean green mambas in NZ and overcast conditions in England. Anywhere India wins is not "even playing" for you guys. :91:
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Leave alone cry babies. Whenever India does well it must be due to some ulterior forces at play.
 
Mesozoic said:
Ahh yes "Even playing field"... you mean green mambas in NZ and overcast conditions in England. Anywhere India wins is not "even playing" for you guys. :91:
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Didn't know that ECB controls the weather in England. :rabada2

England provides the most sporting pitches out of all test playing nations. Kindly do not group them with other countries. :inti
 
MP2011 said:
Williamson is obviously a class act but isn't anything flash in India. Doesn't even average 35 here.
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Yes but he's the only guy who could have offered a bit of resistance after their opening pair. He was looking rock solid last game until he got a roller from Jadeja.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Didn't know that ECB controls the weather in England. :rabada2

England provides the most sporting pitches out of all test playing nations. Kindly do not group them with other countries. :inti
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According to these lot they’ll say ECB controls even weather in India and they made it rain today heavily so that India can lose points and doesn’t qualify to WTC Final. The blind bias smh
 
Well played Mayank. He may have been dropped from Indian test squad for a considerable length of time if not for this innings. Now even if Rohit and Rahul come back, he'll be there in the squad at least.
 
Indian pitches are so hopeless I remember 1 guy scores 300 v eng & his reward was he never played again.. even Indians don’t take there pitches seriously!!
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Didn't know that ECB controls the weather in England. :rabada2

England provides the most sporting pitches out of all test playing nations. Kindly do not group them with other countries. :inti
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Lol here comes the typical lame straw man.

By that logic, even BCCI doesn't "control' the weather in India. But still the crying doesn't stop, when the wicket starts taking turn after baking in the sun for 2 days.
 
Ajaz is bowling beautifully. He is creating so many chance but other bowlers are need to step up if NZ want to restict India under 250 .Btw nice deflection yet again but by pad .:qdkcheeky
 
MP2011 said:
Leave alone cry babies. Whenever India does well it must be due to some ulterior forces at play.
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I remember there were similar comments when we were winning at home against England. The same "India can't beat England in a level playing field" rona dhona.

And then Lords and Oval happened. :yk
 
AAli98 said:
Good luck chasing anything over 80 on this pitch.. Bang & Ind will not trouble any ICC events anytime soon. Ind can’t beat NZ on a even playing field have to resort to low slow wickets.
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This deck is bouncing like some of the Aussie pitches. How is this low? How can red clay play low? And certainly not slow, Kanpur was slow, this is seeing sharp seam/turn.
 
Mesozoic said:
Lol here comes the typical lame straw man.

By that logic, even BCCI doesn't "control' the weather in India. But still the crying doesn't stop, when the wicket starts taking turn after baking in the sun for 2 days.
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You look confused today just like the third umpire who gave Kohli out. You were talking about green mambas in NZ and overcast conditions in England in the same sentence. Just like 95% of your posts here that didn't make any sense. :inti
 
AAli98 said:
Good luck chasing anything over 80 on this pitch.. Bang & Ind will not trouble any ICC events anytime soon. Ind can’t beat NZ on a even playing field have to resort to low slow wickets.
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This pitch generating more bounce.
I am very sure you are not even watching but crying for nothing:))
 
Devadwal said:
Ajaz is bowling beautifully. He is creating so many chance but other bowlers are need to step up if NZ want to restict India under 250 .Btw nice deflection yet again but by pad .:qdkcheeky
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Our spinners are 3 times more capable than Ajaz.

I am sure we are going to win this test.
 
Iyer gone and he did not take review knowing there was a big deflection after edge :qdkcheeky
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
You look confused today just like the third umpire who gave Kohli out. You were talking about green mambas in NZ and overcast conditions in England in the same sentence. Just like 95% of your posts here that didn't make any sense. :inti
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Of course it didn't make any sense. Nothing makes sense unless and until it suits your lame agendas. :91:
 
AAli98 said:
Indian pitches are so hopeless I remember 1 guy scores 300 v eng & his reward was he never played again.. even Indians don’t take there pitches seriously!!
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In your apparent hate for anything Indian, at least don't lie. Karun Nair played 3 more tests after scoring that 300 and then rightfully binned.

But why let facts get in the way of a rant!
 
India obviously produces the worst pitches along with Bangladesh.
Kanpur pitch was unusual and was very good by Indian standard.
Here it's already turning sharp and all 4 wicktes are picked up by a spinner.
India can't be beaten on these pitches.
 
India showing their bench strength skills in home conditions with the likes of Mayank and Iyer proving their worth in this series.
 
Swashbuckler said:
This deck is bouncing like some of the Aussie pitches. How is this low? How can red clay play low? And certainly not slow, Kanpur was slow, this is seeing sharp seam/turn.
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He hasn't watched a single over from Southee-Jamieson or Ajaz. Elese he wouldn't called this low bouncing wicket. Seems like a guys who imagines conspiracy like BCCI doing this, ICC is BCCI, India is doing this blah blah and then comments here. Lol
 
Lol at Saha at no.6.

Where is the great man who smacked Jack Leech for 5 sixes and kept gloves in that test vs England? This is one area where India are weak in bench strength.
 
Lol what a poor bench strength India has as keeper batsman.

One guy has humiliated Australians including trolling Wade and Paine twice in two tours in Australia and the other could barely open his account at home.
 
Ab Fan said:
Lol what a poor bench strength India has as keeper batsman.

One guy has humiliated Australians including trolling Wade and Paine twice in two tours in Australia and the other could barely open his account at home.
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Seniority culture. You think Samson, Kishan, Bharath etc would look this bad.

Heck even Naman Ojha would be better than this guy.
 
Another great stroke from Mayank off the back foot.

Great innings this.
 
Century by Mayank given chance to express my opinion: consistent IPL opener, picked as test opener, then how he could not fit in ODI? Just cause there is no slot?.. Is it fair?
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
Century by Mayank given chance to express my opinion: consistent IPL opener, picked as test opener, then how he could not fit in ODI? Just cause there is no slot?.. Is it fair?
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If there is no slot, how you fit him? That is exactly the point.
 
Ab Fan said:
If there is no slot, how you fit him? That is exactly the point.
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I would move Rahul at 5 and Mayank as opener with Rohit.
too many top order batters.. Shaw/Gill/Mayank etc.
Shaw i think can still be given a role as finisher as he is aggressive. Let him loose without consequences. Gill will have to wait for Kohli/Rohit to retire.
 
If Mayank goes on like this, even 400 isn't too far off.
 
Thanos said:
Third umpire decision seems correct to me. He didn't have enough evidence to overturn on-field decision.
However no doubt Virender Sharma is a poor umpire. The guy gets under pressure easily.
Forgot to check even ball tracking.
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Just watched few more videos and I was wrong. Kohli was not out. This ultra slow motion made things confusing. If you watch normal slow motion video, it clearly shows ball hit bat first.
 
Thats stumps.

Surely our day on a tough pitch to bat on.
 
MP2011 said:
Thats stumps.

Surely our day on a tough pitch to bat on.
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Not tough, Mumbai generally gives high scoring turners where it is easiest to bat on days 2 and 3. Check scorecards of 2012 and 2016 tests against England. Turn will be there but the bounce is true and consistent, also a lot of value for shots, so quite easy to score at a high rate. I want us to get close to 400 here, that should be enough. We will definitely see a result here, awesome pitch prepared by curators. Kanpur pitch was a disgrace really with no bounce.
 
Good day for India. They are ahead at this point.

Ajaz took all 4 wickets. Good day for him also.
 
Bull said:
India obviously produces the worst pitches along with Bangladesh.
Kanpur pitch was unusual and was very good by Indian standard.
Here it's already turning sharp and all 4 wicktes are picked up by a spinner.
India can't be beaten on these pitches.
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Don’t see anything wrong here . It’s up to home team to play and prepare pitches as per their strength as they need to win and get those vital points . Else everybody would have played in neutral venue
 
Last 3 tests in Wankhede have been won by the sides bowling first, all included monster 2nd innings performances, like KP's 187, Kohli's 235, Rohit's debut series. All boils down to NZ's first innings, should try to get 450-500 and it is very much possible against an attack missing Bumrah, Shami, Jadeja. This pitch will offer value for shots and it is common to see 350+ runs being scored per day on days 2 to 4. Day 1 is slightly tougher because of the moisture, will be wonderful to bat from tomorrow.

Runs will be scored, wickets will fall, spinners will do well, swing bowling will be supported because of proximity to the sea. Match will be played at breakneck speed and still go on for all 5 days. One of the better test venues in India, high quality red clay.
 
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Mayank Agarwal headlined India's first day of the Wankhede Test with a stunning century after Ajaz Patel rattled the hosts with a four-wicket haul.

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Agarwal's unbeaten 120* consisted of 14 fours and 4 sixes and the brilliant effort came after a spin masterclass from Patel that had India on the back foot.

With unseasonal rains lashing Mumbai over the last couple of days, a wet outfield ensured that the first session was completely washed out. After electing to bat first, India got off to a steady start. Openers Shubman Gill and Mayank Agarwal rarely gave any chances despite New Zealand keeping things tight for the initial overs.

Ajaz Patel was brought into the attack in the seventh over and persisted, controlling the scoring rate. After India went past the fifty-run opening stand, Gill began to accelerate. He hit Will Somerville for a magnificent six over mid-wicket in his third over. Then after laying low for a few overs, tonked Somerville for a couple of fours.

Just when he was looking to unleash more such shots, Ajaz had him caught at slip with a ball that spun away and caught Gill's outside edge as he pushed forward; thus breaking the 80-run first-wicket partnership.

Ajaz was not going to keep quiet with just one wicket. He delivered a brutal double blow in his next over, cleaning up Cheteshwar Pujara and Virat Kohli for ducks. Pujara was bowled on the second ball, after surviving an lbw review on the first delivery. Kohli was trapped in front on the final delivery, a decision he reviewed but failed to overturn.

At the other end, Agarwal continued to fight and soon brought up his fifth Test fifty in the final over before Tea.

Agarwal continued his dominant run after the break, punishing the bad balls and pairing with Shreyas Iyer to stabilise the India innings. Iyer played the anchoring role, complementing Agarwal's aggressive intent. The partnership reached 80 and was broken by Patel when he had Iyer caught behind for a 41-ball 18.

Losing partners at the other end did not deter Agarwal. He stuck to the plan and combined with Wriddhiman Saha to keep India going. Saha, for his part, remained firm at one end like Iyer giving Agarwal the support he needed. The latter's handwork paid off as he brought up his fourth Test ton. The duo soon brought up their fifty partnership as well, pushing India's total past the 200-run mark.

The New Zealand bowlers could create no further chances as the hosts ended the day on 221/4.
 
200 more runs please, 5 guys who can bat: Mayank, Saha, Ashwin, Jayant, Axar. Umesh and Siraj can tonk a few especially against spin.
 
Swashbuckler said:
Last 3 tests in Wankhede have been won by the sides bowling first, all included monster 2nd innings performances, like KP's 187, Kohli's 235, Rohit's debut series. All boils down to NZ's first innings, should try to get 450-500 and it is very much possible against an attack missing Bumrah, Shami, Jadeja. This pitch will offer value for shots and it is common to see 350+ runs being scored per day on days 2 to 4. Day 1 is slightly tougher because of the moisture, will be wonderful to bat from tomorrow.

Runs will be scored, wickets will fall, spinners will do well, swing bowling will be supported because of proximity to the sea. Match will be played at breakneck speed and still go on for all 5 days. One of the better test venues in India, high quality red clay.
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Yes a very good point! This is how India used to win matches at home last few years when they lost the toss (thanks to Kohli) by scoring heavily in their 1st innings (i.e., 2nd innings of the match) easily surpassing what opposition has scored (Sometimes when the opposition has scored 400+, India has scored like 600+) in that way even the 3rd innings will easily go into 4th day where the bowlers can put the pressure (lots of innings wins were achieved in this way!)

Instead of blaming the toss, India took the challenge... They bowled well in the 1st innings as much as possible (even pace bowlers coming to the party which most people fail to identify) and then the batters doing well... This is the secret of India's success and why they were/are No.1 Test team for so long. Not by doctored pitches, spin mafia, BCCI aid, etc!

Now NZ may not to do this, they may bat cautiously at snail's pace in their innings, so they might not get enough score/time to win the match & will struggle to even draw like they did in the last match (then everyone will cry about toss and pitch)

In fact even India are not sharp enough in this series because they have not batted with maximum positivity which they used to do in the past (thanks to some passengers in the team!) This is also one of the reason when India failed to capitalize in last overseas test series in South Africa and the series before the last England tour even though they came closer!

But they improved in recent overseas tours (Australia & England) exactly for this reason (positive batting). Rohit, Rahul, Pant, etc, capitalized on the bowling! Even history tells that you can win test matches if the batsman play with good scoring rate (like old WI team, 2000s Australian team and even the Sehwag/Laxman led Indian team - they all had batsmen with good strokeplay + of course you need bowlers to bowl out opposition!)

People here have conveniently forgotten that India lost tosses (and even key players) in Australia & England also but they adjusted remarkably instead of blaming anything! If India had batted/played like NZ in the last Australian series, they would have lost the Sydney test and drawn in Brisbane!
 
If India can get 400 on the board (60-40 likelihood) then I can see NZ crumbling into dust here without Kane Williamson.
 
MP2011 said:
In your apparent hate for anything Indian, at least don't lie. Karun Nair played 3 more tests after scoring that 300 and then rightfully binned.

But why let facts get in the way of a rant!
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Trolls do not rely on facts. They lie or provide half truths to support their trolling. My suggestion is to ignore those and not encourage them.
 
Swashbuckler said:
Not tough, Mumbai generally gives high scoring turners where it is easiest to bat on days 2 and 3. Check scorecards of 2012 and 2016 tests against England. Turn will be there but the bounce is true and consistent, also a lot of value for shots, so quite easy to score at a high rate. I want us to get close to 400 here, that should be enough. We will definitely see a result here, awesome pitch prepared by curators. Kanpur pitch was a disgrace really with no bounce.
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Tough pitch as in for today's batsmen who are probably technically deficient as compared to yesteryear's batsmen.

See how Pujara got out today.
 
AAli98 said:
Indian pitches are so hopeless I remember 1 guy scores 300 v eng & his reward was he never played again.. even Indians don’t take there pitches seriously!!
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What are you saying? Is it easy to bat or hard to bat?
 
MP2011 said:
Tough pitch as in for today's batsmen who are probably technically deficient as compared to yesteryear's batsmen.

See how Pujara got out today.
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I only watched the last hour and the pitch looked very flat.
 
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