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India v England | 3rd Test | Mohali | Nov 26-30, 2016 | Day 3

cricket.mad said:
Our batsman have that tendency to gift wickets to a bowler in each and every tour. .to be fair rash I'd have bowled well here
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Rashid has bowled very well but we have gifted a LOT of wickets to him.

A LOT.

Every match 2-3 wickets due to slogs.
 
Seems it was just Jadeja doing his stuff. These two are again batting normally.
 
The spin trio have done more than needed with the bat. Just that we expecting much more from them (which means everyone believes in their potentials!) Hopefully now they will make sure this lead is enough and do their brutal bit with the ball!
 
This is where a champion side would say screw whats a good score here...I am gonna try and get a 500 and put England out of the game.

Then will slog.

If they have to take my wicket, let them earn it with their blood and sweat.
 
I don't know why.. but I desperately want to see Ash and jaddu bowling right now just to see that the pitch has genuinely became batting friendly or this is just lack of bowling skills from English spinners/defensive captaincy from cook
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
True...but compared to Jaddu's usual standards, this was an unbelievable knock.

Yes, it was a silly shot and it can be frustrating but then Jaddu could have done that in 20s leaving us totering.

I would be more annoyed with this shot from an Ash or Jayant than Jaddu.
But hopefully Jaddu learns from this mistake though I don't expect him to sadly.
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Yaar, tum bohot bade bore ho.. Like seriously.
He has had a habit of playing like a doofus, but he had done the hardwork and was definitely in the mode according to the situation. Moreover, things were calling for a cooler head and his approaching 100 should have had made his resolve even stronger.

His past inns are one thing, his current state of mind and situation at hand should have meant better application.


Robbie said:
To be fair.. I think India have got a fair lead now and as a cricket fan, things were getting pretty boring. Lead is now over an 100. Im expecting some more interesting cricket from India from here on.
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Dude, the pitch is still quite fair for batting. We should occupy the crease for as long as possible. Secondly, a better lead will not hurt us by any stretch of imagination.

The english bowlers were not exactly dominating either, and the time was ripe to dent them further.

And def the lead is not good/handy. Nothing short of 200-250 will do it.
 
Looking at the way the late order has batted, India should drop some more top order batsmen and bring in some more spin bowling alrounders into the team and strengthen the bowling department :))
 
Stark said:
Yaar, tum bohot bade bore ho.. Like seriously.
He has had a habit of playing like a doofus, but he had done the hardwork and was definitely in the mode according to the situation. Moreover, things were calling for a cooler head and his approaching 100 should have had made his resolve even stronger.

His past inns are one thing, his current state of mind and situation at hand should have meant better application.




Dude, the pitch is still quite fair for batting. We should occupy the crease for as long as possible. Secondly, a better lead will not hurt us by any stretch of imagination.

The english bowlers were not exactly dominating either, and the time was ripe to dent them further.

And def the lead is not good/handy. Nothing short of 200-250 will do it.
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You are making points as if the other person is disagreeing with them. :))

What to do? Jaddu se itna hi milta hai. Maybe we were in a bad situation when he played that shot, fans may have been angry at him.

Hard to be angry at him now for what he did in this match.

Its unfortunate but what to do.....
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
This is where a champion side would say screw whats a good score here...I am gonna try and get a 500 and put England out of the game.

Then will slog.

If they have to take my wicket, let them earn it with their blood and sweat.
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India is not yet a champion side! They have issues in test cricket even at home let alone overseas! Expecting too much of the late order (which has been such a welcome addition) is unfair! In fact the Indian top order has to be criticized even more (if they have to chase something around 200 in the 4th innings) and also if our spinners fail to bowl well in the next innings (they should not be expecting turners always and luck of toss - batting first!)
 
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RamLakhan said:
India is not yet a champion side! They have issues in test cricket even at home let alone overseas! Expecting too much of the late order (which has been such a welcome addition) is unfair! In fact the Indian top order has to be criticized even more (if they have to chase something around 200 in the 4th innings) and also if our spinners fail to bowl well in the next innings (they should not be expecting turners always!)
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Not saying India is a champion side currently.

If you have to depend on Ashwin every other innings with the bat, you are not a champion side. A champion side would have 2-3 DIFFERENT bats scoring every innings. Here we have passengers in our batting and the same players scoring every game.

What I am talking about is the mentality of fight. I want to see what mentality this team possesses. Will keep an eye on that.

Aus in 2001 in Kolkata went from 291-8 to 440 all out with Waugh playing with Gillespie and McGrath. They could do it cos they believed no total was the limit.
 
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Brilliant exhibition of batting by the spin trio (all reaching 50's!) If more is expected of them, then India has to be treated as an invincible team at least at home and also a real deal even overseas (if they bat like this, then we can play at least 2 of them in addition to 3 seamers at the cost of a regular batsman even against top sides!)
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Not saying India is a champion side currently.

If you have to depend on Ashwin every other innings with the bat, you are not a champion side. A champion side would have 2-3 DIFFERENT bats scoring every innings. Here we have passengers in our batting and the same players scoring every game.

What I am talking about is the mentality of fight. I want to see what mentality this team possesses. Will keep an eye on that.

Aus in 2001 in Kolkata went from 291-8 to 440 all out with Waugh playing with Gillespie and McGrath. They could do it cos they believed no total was the limit.
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Here the late order is doing it all on their own without the aid of specialist batsman! With a specialist batsman in one end you can get those balloon scores. So I think this much composure by late order (almost repeatedly in several matches of late - without the aid of specialist batsman!) is fair enough!
 
RamLakhan said:
India is not yet a champion side! They have issues in test cricket even at home let alone overseas!
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India is not a champion side but... better than the other sides that play the game.

SA, can't play spin to save their lives and hence got hammered 0-3 in India.
Aus, hammered by SA at home, and SL abroad.
Eng, couldn't beat Pak at home, and lost a match to a minnow Bang team.
Pak, lost a match to a minnow WI team, and now close to losing a series to NZ.

So yes, India may not be a champion team, but it is the champion team.
 
Jadeja has done his bit. Played a super out of character inning.

The Sir is a racecar, please don't try to compare it to a oxcart. :afridi
 
This was quite easily a 450+ pitch. Quite astounding how so many batsmen threw their wickets away.

India needed a minimum of a 100 run lead just to be on the safer side. Anything more is a bonus from here on.
 
I have a strong feeling that only two results are possible in this match - An Indian win or Draw. Indians should back themselves to chase a score between 100 to 200 in the fourth innings on this pitch! Biting too much time (it is 3rd day) will give more chance for England to save this test match by batting long even till early 5th day! That would result in a boring draw (both England & India would not look to play ultra-positively in their next innings) So it will be good if this innings ends sooner for a better result for India!
 
England trying to entice Umesh by bowling the spinners.

And he obliges. But might not come away the next time.
 
Cook has gone bonker. Took off Rashid when Umesh was going to face him.
 
Napa said:
India is not a champion side but... better than the other sides that play the game.

SA, can't play spin to save their lives and hence got hammered 0-3 in India.
Aus, hammered by SA at home, and SL abroad.
Eng, couldn't beat Pak at home, and lost a match to a minnow Bang team.
Pak, lost a match to a minnow WI team, and now close to losing a series to NZ.

So yes, India may not be a champion team, but it is the champion team.
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I will accept that if they at least beat Australia in Australia however weak the Australian team is! (the Australian team getting better by the time we tour them OR umpire biases/bad luck are not the excuses!) Yes India are a better overall good test team in the world (but there is day light difference between "good" and "champion" team! A Champion team will beat any team anywhere!)
 
I think there is enough in this pitch for the spinners although the spinners will have to put enough revs on the ball instead of just dropping it on the length.
 
There have only been 2 champion teams in the history of the game by that definition. And even one of those could not win in India at their peak.
 
This is why it was important India batted time.

Almost 140 overs on the field and mental fatigue will set in.

Cook and England are both struggling now.
 
And just like everyone else in the rest of the series, Jayant throws away the second chance he got immediately. Sigh.
 
Sin Nombre said:
There have only been 2 champion teams in the history of the game by that definition. And even one of those could not win in India at their peak.
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Yes harsh but true! It takes a heck to be champion team at test level! South Africa with such a good time since 90s never went anywhere near "champion" level at test cricket. Also Sri Lanka continued to look minnows outside asia in test cricket at least after their 1996 ODI triumph (they looked just decent under Sangakkara - which is again far from being champion) And Pakistan with their brilliant bowling line up never looked threatening against other top sides in test matches and also India with devastating fab 5 could not achieve much overseas in test cricket!

Hence the very use of this word "champion" at test level is outrageous and very very rare! In ODIs and T20s it is possible to sustain for good periods, but impossible in Tests! That's why it is not possible to conduct a Test Championship tournament, and even if it is done it will still not be a fair contest to test a team truly!
 
The ego battle between Shami and Yadav when both are batting together is one of the best sights in the game.
 
Sin Nombre said:
This is why it was important India batted time.

Almost 140 overs on the field and mental fatigue will set in.

Cook and England are both struggling now.
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I hope this shows in cook's batting
 
5-73 for Ben Stokes in India. He is England's leading run-scorer for the series too.
 
From 204/6 to 417/10.

Not a bad recovery. Always nice when your last 4 wickets get you more runs than your first 6!

I would have preferred if Ashwin and Jadeja hadn't played those shots and ground the English bowlers more, but overall can't complain with the team's performance till this point today.
 
Napa said:
From 204/6 to 417/10.

Not a bad recovery. Always nice when your last 4 wickets get you more runs than your first 6!

I would have preferred if Ashwin and Jadeja hadn't played those shots and ground the English bowlers more, but overall can't complain with the team's performance till this point today.
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Even more impressive considering we were 156/5. The last 5 wickets contributed 261 runs.
 
I hope Kohli gives our fast bowlers more chance to get England's batsmen out. At time it seems he doesn't have that much confidence on Shami and Yadav's abilities to get wickets.

Every time they bowl long spells they make life difficult for batsmen..
 
Robbie said:
I hope Kohli gives our fast bowlers more chance to get England's batsmen out. At time it seems he doesn't have that much confidence on Shami and Yadav's abilities to get wickets.

Every time they bowl long spells they make life difficult for batsmen..
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Really? I thought he always gives 10-12 overs to them before introducing a spinner.
 
Indiafan said:
Really? I thought he always gives 10-12 overs to them before introducing a spinner.
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Like in this innings..

I think he gets too caught up with the pitch and forgets about the impact Shami and Yadav Cud have here..
 
England are lucky that India didn't produce pitches with more turn. They have struggled against spin in these last 2 tests even though the ball isn't spinning a lot. On a rank turner I don't think they would have gone past 250 too many times.
 
Hasan123 said:
England are lucky that India didn't produce pitches with more turn. They have struggled against spin in these last 2 tests even though the ball isn't spinning a lot. On a rank turner I don't think they would have gone past 250 too many times.
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There isn't enough heat to produce rank turners! England should have been invited during March-May. Desperate ways of producing turners by under-preparing will lead to chaos (like the one here which was also played in November http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/64102.html )
 
England may bundle out soon and give a target around 100 which will be reached by India maybe tomorrow morning by losing 3 to 5 wickets!
 
Robbie said:
Like in this innings..

I think he gets too caught up with the pitch and forgets about the impact Shami and Yadav Cud have here..
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This innings is an exception and I think he wants them to bowl with a slightly older ball for reverse swing
 
If Ashwin, Jaddu and Jayant could score with such ease earlier on then this pitch is obviously a belter. England just cannot seem to build a partnership and get into a rhythm though.
 
Eng 53/2 (25.5 ov)
England trail by 81 runs with 8 wickets remaining
Joe Root (rhb) 29*
Jonny Bairstow (rhb) 6*
Min overs left for today : 9
 
This innings run rate is good for India. England will probably achieve parity by lunch. Hope to have half of them back in the hut by then.
 
1 more wicket below close will be lovely. England is effectively 3 down with Hameed unlikely to bat
 
Baristow gone. Dare I say - Can we have Root too tonight?
 
Poor crowd attendance as usual in Mohali. Nagpur, Mohali and Ahmedabad should be barred from hosting test matches :facepalm:
 
Ashwin is really being underbowled in the this test.

He should have been brought in instead of Jaddu
 
AamchiMumbaikar said:
Poor crowd attendance as usual in Mohali. Nagpur, Mohali and Ahmedabad should be barred from hosting test matches :facepalm:
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There should be a minimum requirement of 60% attendance if a venue has to become a regular test stadium.

Its embarrassing to watch tests without any spectators.
 
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