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India v New Zealand | 1st Test | Ahmedabad | Nov 4-8 2010

Ah good old New Zealand. The regulation "give the opposition a heart attack before settling down to lose" NZ trick.
 
hope kiwis upset india. dont even watch this match but heard bout kiwis giving a tough fight to india n hope they win
 
Harby is a hero, saved them with back-to-back fifties
 
I hope we give the kiwis a target of about 230-240 in 50 overs. Could really make this very interesting.

I would much rather want us to get all out in the next 10 overs, else dont think Dhoni will declare unless we are safe.
 
i dont see good signs for india in sa.not because of this match,because gautam gambhir is nowhere close to form for last 10 innings and dravid is struggling.If they dont atleast temporary replace one of them and just go selecting players by reputation,it could be a difficult tour.
 
India still can Win this Match.. But all depends on how NZ bats in their 2nd Innings. It won't be easy for them at all.
 
Gary Kirsten, India's coach, believes that if his Test side can win the series in South Africa, they could be regarded as one of India's greatest Test teams. In an extensive interview with ESPNcricinfo, Kirsten said it would be great to win in South Africa, but that the side didn't need to prove anything.


LOL the same team that cant even beat NZ who got smashed by Bangladesh
 
hamzie said:
Gary Kirsten, India's coach, believes that if his Test side can win the series in South Africa, they could be regarded as one of India's greatest Test teams. In an extensive interview with ESPNcricinfo, Kirsten said it would be great to win in South Africa, but that the side didn't need to prove anything.


LOL the same team that cant even beat NZ who got smashed by Bangladesh
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Lolz....buddy ur greatest team of 90s got beaten by Bangladesh ...:D....
now whats ur point.....
 
89.3
Vettori to Khan, OUT, 85.3 kph, and Vettori is on a hat-trick! So is Umpire Davis! Moves across, does Zaheer, to a straight length ball, and is done in by the lack of spin. Hit smack in front of stumps, given out, but Zaheer can't believe it because he reckons there is an inside edge, and replays confirm that - a late inside edge. Not as blatant as Laxman's, and Davis must have thought it to be pad first
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:)) haha
 
steve davis on the good stuff lol feel bad for vvs tho, got tricked of his cebtury. maybe davis wants it end already, hes probably hot.
 
Gets to his first first class 100 with a 6!! What a knock.

Bhajju has saved India from a major embarassment here. Well done Bhajju.
 
cricketindiafan said:
Gets to his first first class 100 with a 6!! What a knock.

Bhajju has saved India from a major embarassment here. Well done Bhajju.
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How have they been saved? Does his 100 rue out the fact that India were 15-5?
There is no excuse for being 15-5 even if your bowler gets 200 because he will most likely never do it again.
 
Schickelgruber said:
How have they been saved? Does his 100 rue out the fact that India were 15-5?
There is no excuse for being 15-5 even if your bowler gets 200 because he will most likely never do it again.
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His 100 has ensured India will NOT lose this test to a side whom they were expcted to roll over. Do you get it now?
 
funny ....

cricinfo said:
Kevin: " The decisions of Laxman and Zaheer I suspect were made by ICC to make India understand the importance of UDRS. Harbhajan decided not to leave his century's fate to Steve Davis or the ICC."
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cricketindiafan said:
His 100 has ensured India will NOT lose this test to a side whom they were expcted to roll over. Do you get it now?
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Yes but nothing really mattered once they were 15-5. How do you explain 15-5? You cannot, even if India wins by 600 runs after being 15-5. The point is this is a failed test match in terms of success.

People will now forget the 15-5 and remember Harbhajan's 100 and say what a brilliant performance by India.
 
Schickelgruber said:
Yes but nothing really mattered once they were 15-5. How do you explain 15-5? You cannot, even if India wins by 600 runs after being 15-5. The point is this is a failed test match in terms of success.

People will now forget the 15-5 and remember Harbhajan's 100 and say what a brilliant performance by India.
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Don't have your knickers in a twist. I know your prayers have not been answered and all your hopes dashed. It's natural for you to feel disappointed and hence blabber things which you yourself will not understand.
 
Schickelgruber said:
Yes sure he has, because when India is 10-5 against SA on home-turf, he will get 200 and save you again. :14:
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and this is pure perception from ur side my dear ...and who is saying he gonna save us in SA if same situation arises ....btw u just made ur mind we gonna play as badly as in this 2nd Inning in SA when we didn't even land there...
 
cricketindiafan said:
Don't have your knickers in a twist. I know your prayers have not been answered and all your hopes dashed. It's natural for you to feel disappointed and hence blabber things which you yourself will not understand.
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What are you talking about? I am thinking of this from a cricketing prospect, if you cannot do that then do not bother replying to my posts. I am not one dimensional in my thinking, I am here to talk about cricket and not be butt hurt because it is India playing.
 
mastermind_quad said:
I for one who treat cricket on per match basis ....see what happened to SL after series win ....
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So in other words do you expect Harbhajan to save you in SA if you go down 15-5 again? My whole point is that Indians should not be too happy with this performance, it should never have been 15-5 and instead of getting all happy, they should solve this issue before they get to SA and have the same problem.

But that will not happen because now that Harbhajan has scored 100 it will all be done and dusted, forgotten. Same thing with Pakistan, I am not over-joyed by the fact that we keep failing and somehow manage to win, I know it will not happen always so I stay neutral when we do not win professionally enough.
 
Schickelgruber said:
What are you talking about? I am thinking of this from a cricketing prospect, if you cannot do that then do not bother replying to my posts. I am not one dimensional in my thinking, I am here to talk about cricket and not be butt hurt because it is India playing.
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From a cricketing perspective, cricket is all about partnerhsips, where the team has reached at the end of the day not how it began. Yes there was a collapse, but then there was a fightback and that has resulted in us NOT LOSING the game, This from the situation when we looked done and dusted.

If you think from a cricketing erspective, thats GOOD to see. A partnerhsip between a top batsman and a lower order tail ender.

Go back to your posts on this thread from yesterday and reflect on how many of those were from a "cricket perspective". I hope you get a good sleep tonight.
 
Schickelgruber said:
So in other words do you expect Harbhajan to save you in SA if you go down 15-5 again? My whole point is that Indians should not be too happy with this performance, it should never have been 15-5 and instead of getting all happy, they should solve this issue before they get to SA and have the same problem.

But that will not happen because now that Harbhajan has scored 100 it will all be done and dusted, forgotten. Same thing with Pakistan, I am not over-joyed by the fact that we keep failing and somehow manage to win, I know it will not happen always so I stay neutral when we do not win professionally enough.
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Dude!!! Its not that Bajji will Save India under same situations in future as well, But he done Today along side Laxman, So, He deserves :14::14: from everyone for his efforts...

Why wasting time by thinking about future????
 
cricketindiafan said:
From a cricketing perspective, cricket is all about partnerhsips, where the team has reached at the end of the day not how it began. Yes there was a collapse, but then there was a fightback and that has resulted in us NOT LOSING the game, This from the situation when we looked done and dusted.

If you think from a cricketing erspective, thats GOOD to see. A partnerhsip between a top batsman and a lower order tail ender.

Go back to your posts on this thread from yesterday and reflect on how many of those were from a "cricket perspective". I hope you get a good sleep tonight.
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Am I the one who hyped the top-order to be some sort of Goddish line-up? of course not, and I laughed when they were 15-5 but I knew India would come-back because of the lower-order and the fact that NZ bowling is nothing special.
Maybe you should quit grasping at straws and see the bigger picture before everyone laughs at India if they fail miserably against SA and end up less than 100 all-out like the last time.
 
Passion4Pakistan said:
Dude!!! Its not that Bajji will Save India under same situations in future as well, But he done Today along side Laxman, So, He deserves :14::14: from everyone for his efforts...

Why wasting time by thinking about future????
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Because soon they will be batting on a bowling heaven in SA and not some flat dead pitch where they were still ending up 15-5.
 
Dear Schickelgruber. Your pain has got the better of your logic. Let's take another example. Whenever Afridi gets (at least) a 30 or 40 it's most likely the most entertaining and exciting part of the Pak batting. So if we cut up the match and only talked about that, we would arrive at the conclusion that Pak were batting brilliantly. So your point about India being 15/5 is meaningless because cricket is about the whole picture and not small snapshots. Anyway, hang in there - at some point India will lose and you can have your day then (despite your claims to not being biased). until then :41:
 
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ballyho said:
Dear Schickelgruber. Your pain has got the better of your logic. Let's consider this. Whenever Afridi gets (at least) a 30 or 40 it's most likely the most entertaining and exciting part of the Pak batting. So if we cut up the match and only talked about that, we would arrive at the conclusion that Pak were batting brilliantly. So your point about India being 15/5 is meaningless because cricket is about the whole picture and not small snapshots. Anyway, hang in there - at some point India will lose and you can have your day then (despite your claims to not being biased). until then :41:
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That's the thing, I rage when Afridi gets out for 30 and 40 despite the outcome of the match. Same thing here, India were 15-5 and a bowler saved them. How can that be a good thing? The whole point of having a brilliant top-order is to win matches and if that is not happening then what's the point of having such a line-up? Might as well play with 11 bowlers.
 
Schickelgruber said:
So in other words do you expect Harbhajan to save you in SA if you go down 15-5 again? My whole point is that Indians should not be too happy with this performance
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u r twisting my words here ....and there is every reason to be Happy here coz we have saved this match from losing position ...

Schickelgruber said:
, it should never have been 15-5 and instead of getting all happy, they should solve this issue before they get to SA and have the same problem.

But that will not happen because now that Harbhajan has scored 100 it will all be done and dusted, forgotten. Same thing with Pakistan, I am not over-joyed by the fact that we keep failing and somehow manage to win, I know it will not happen always so I stay neutral when we do not win professionally enough.
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and Yes u r absolutely correct regarding ur points here ...we should not get carried away with this save/draw and brilliant Inning by Laxman & Bhajji ...the truth is that our Batting flopped big time in 2nd Inning and there was collapse in 1st Inning too ...we have a harder test in SA ..we should rectify the coz here ....and be prepare for next match onwards ....
 
Schickelgruber said:
Yes but nothing really mattered once they were 15-5. How do you explain 15-5? You cannot, even if India wins by 600 runs after being 15-5. The point is this is a failed test match in terms of success.

People will now forget the 15-5 and remember Harbhajan's 100 and say what a brilliant performance by India.
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what ? has to be one of the most stupid posts here on pp

do you remember Karachi 06 ?

isnt the test remembered as a brilliant comeback performance by Pakistan ? by your logic the result wudnt matter cos Pakistan where 36/6 at one point lol
 
Schickelgruber said:
Am I the one who hyped the top-order to be some sort of Goddish line-up? of course not, and I laughed when they were 15-5 but I knew India would come-back because of the lower-order and the fact that NZ bowling is nothing special.
Maybe you should quit grasping at straws and see the bigger picture before everyone laughs at India if they fail miserably against SA and end up less than 100 all-out like the last time.
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Grasping at the straws? Pot calling the kettle black? Let's get some fact listed

You have a problem with Bhajji's 100
You have a problem with India's fightback
You have a problem with India not going onto lose the test

What a cricket perspective to have!!

Coming to the SA tour, IF we do get humiliated in SA, we will deserve the brickbats coming our way, but then unlike you, I am not a nostradamus to predict that we will get humiliated in SA. Also from 15-5 we are 255/8 right now and even IF we were to be 15-5 in SA, I would back by team to stage a comeback and reach a respectable total like they have done here.
 
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mastermind_quad said:
u r twisting my words here ....and there is every reason to be Happy here coz we have saved this match from losing position ...


and Yes u r absolutely correct regarding ur points here ...we should not get carried away with this save/draw and brilliant Inning by Laxman & Bhajji ...the truth is that our Batting flopped big time in 2nd Inning and there was collapse in 1st Inning too ...we have a harder test in SA ..we should rectify the coz here ....and be prepare for next match onwards ....
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:14: thank you for understanding my point sir.

jusarrived said:
what ? has to be one of the most stupid posts here on pp

do you remember Karachi 06 ?

isnt the test remembered as a brilliant comeback performance by Pakistan ? by your logic the result wudnt matter cos Pakistan where 36/6 at one point lol
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Well that is exactly what I am saying! What happened in England? We got out for less than 100 in both innings! And That made me feel happy that I did not support our team when we were 36-6! Win/save or lose, it was a flop overall in my mind! How si that so hard to grasp?
 
cricketindiafan said:
Grasping at the straws? Pot calling the kettle black? Let's get some fact listed

You have a problem with Bhajji's 100
You have a problem with India's fightback
You have a problem with India not going onto lose the test

What a cricket perspective to have!!

Coming to the SA tour, IF we do get humiliated in SA, we will deserve the brickbats coming our way, but then unlike you, I am not a nostradamus to predict that we will get humiliated in SA. Also from 15-5 we are 255/8 right now and even IF we were to be 15-5 in SA, I would back by team to stage a comeback and reach a respectable total like they have done here.
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Oh for Pete's sake, I do not have a problem with that! I am only stating that their 15-5 position should not be forgotten so easily! God, I am tired of trying to make you understand. Goodbye.
 
jusarrived said:
what ? has to be one of the most stupid posts here on pp

do you remember Karachi 06 ?

isnt the test remembered as a brilliant comeback performance by Pakistan ? by your logic the result wudnt matter cos Pakistan where 36/6 at one point lol
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very valid point ...:)
 
Schickelgruber said:
That's the thing, I rage when Afridi gets out for 30 and 40 despite the outcome of the match. Same thing here, India were 15-5 and a bowler saved them. How can that be a good thing? The whole point of having a brilliant top-order is to win matches and if that is not happening then what's the point of having such a line-up? Might as well play with 11 bowlers.
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pal, even bradman didnt score heavy every innings he batted. the point of cricket is it's a team game. a good team is one where when others fail someone else stands up. and this even with the kiwi bowling attack losing 1 strike bowler was a good performance. so just enjoy the cricket and good luck to pak today.
 
Let me just some-up my argument:

India should not be overjoyed by this "comeback" because it will not happen often in SA.
That's all, if you want to make this an India Vs Pakistan logic then go play Keyboard Warrior someplace else.
 
ballyho said:
pal, even bradman didnt score heavy every innings he batted. the point of cricket is it's a team game. a good team is one where when others fail someone else stands up. and this even with the kiwi bowling attack losing 1 strike bowler was a good performance. so just enjoy the cricket and good luck to pak today.
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I am enjoying it, In-fact, I am watching India play right now but people here are taking this like a fist fight. And thanks, and well played today to India as well.
 
Schickelgruber said:
:14: thank you for understanding my point sir.



Well that is exactly what I am saying! What happened in England? We got out for less than 100 in both innings! And That made me feel happy that I did not support our team when we were 36-6! Win/save or lose, it was a flop overall in my mind! How si that so hard to grasp?
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buddy if u think so ...then probably u'll be the one of this kind of thinking ...
 
mastermind_quad said:
buddy if u think so ...then probably u'll be the one of this kind of thinking ...
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Lets talk about our recent scores in England and not think about 06' to move forward in the test matches against SA. Those heroics have not happened for 4 years and I highly doubt they will happen in the coming months.


Best you guys think of your current performance in the same light and not take a Harbhajan's 100 as a basis for thinking SA will be rollovers.
 
Schickelgruber said:
Let me just some-up my argument:

India should not be overjoyed by this "comeback" because it will not happen often in SA.
That's all, if you want to make this an India Vs Pakistan logic then go play Keyboard Warrior someplace else.
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That's valid and everybody understand that dear....:)
 
Schickelgruber said:
Lets talk about our recent scores in England and not think about 06' to move forward in the test matches against SA. Those heroics have not happened for 4 years and I highly doubt they will happen in the coming months.


Best you guys think of your current performance in the same light and not take a Harbhajan's 100 as a basis for thinking SA will be rollovers.
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SA allowed Pakistan to win an ODI from a hopeless situation. So who knows...
 
@ Schickelgruber, Its like you are already sure that India Will score less than 100 on each and every innings in SAf.. I have doubt on that.. But they will struggle to keep up the consistency in their batting performance for sure.. We have enough scope to talk about that series when it will be in corner, Why thinking about that now???

We should think about today's Match between Pak v SA.
 
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Schickelgruber said:
Lets talk about our recent scores in England and not think about 06' to move forward in the test matches against SA. Those heroics have not happened for 4 years and I highly doubt they will happen in the coming months.


Best you guys think of your current performance in the same light and not take a Harbhajan's 100 as a basis for thinking SA will be rollovers.
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but that was one hell of a performance from Kamran & Asif and should be remebered as one of the brilliant comeback performance by Pakistan instead of FLOP overall
 
Anyway, why do BCCI still considers Motera a test match venue ? Recent test matches there been draw and boaring.

Though this one is not that boaring due to change in situation but ended up as a draw.
 
Passion4Pakistan said:
@ Schickelgruber, Its like you are already sure that India Will score less than 100 on each and every innings in SAf.. I have doubt on that.. But they will struggle to keep up the consistency in their batting performance for sure.. We have enough scope to talk about that series when it will in corner, Why thinking about that now???

We should think about today's Match between Pak v SA.
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Because this is an Indian thread bro :))
 
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