India v New Zealand | 1st Test | Kanpur | Sep 22-26, 2016 | Day 2

[Syed1]

Jaddu.

Clean nick.

Not given.

Even KW's face said it all.

Review kar lehtay na

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Review kar lehtay na

Thank You BCCI.

We missed a whitewash in SL because of BCCI.

 

[street cricketer]

Think it was a bottom edge. Although snicko picked up a late noise (after it went past the bat).

Jaddu.

Clean nick.

Not given.

Even KW's face said it all.

Gah, I hate the BCCI..

KW should have walked though. I thought he was better than Kohli.

 

[Syed1]

I see that hotspot and ball tracking isn't available in the series.

Maybe one of the reasons BCCI opposes DRS is because it would make it compulsory to use these expensive technologies and hence reduce the profit margin

 

[nish_mate]

If he were batting India would be forced to field an entire new bowlig line up in the next test

One thing is for sure Bhajji would have scored a daddy hundred and Kiwis would have just managed to draw the game

 

[Aman]

Jaddu.

Clean nick.

Not given.

Even KW's face said it all.

Yet it didn't match up.

Not going to give it till there's more evidence (hot spot, would have been better than snicko in this case).

You can't immediately assume it's a nick when there's a big gap in frames.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Yet it didn't match up.

Not going to give it till there's more evidence (hot spot, would have been better than snicko in this case).

You can't immediately assume it's a nick when there's a big gap in frames.

Yeah dude. KW's falling face was just a coincidence.

Its ok. I am not too flustered with it but anyone can see it was out.

 

[Aman]

Even with the DRS, they probably would have gone with the umpires decision because of the lack of evidence (sound and frames not matching up). Hawkeye would have cleared any doubt, but it's not being used this series.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

How much will rain affect the match (pitch) dynamics?

Will be interesting to note.

 

[Aman]

Yeah dude. KW's falling face was just a coincidence.

Its ok. I am not too flustered with it but anyone can see it was out.

DRS isn't that straightforward, there was a lack of evidence and even Jadeja didn't go up till Saha did.

IMO the umpires decision would have stood. Had he been given out, then he would have been out.

KW has been filthy with himself plenty of times playing shots he shouldn't or falling away on shots.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

DRS isn't that straightforward, there was a lack of evidence and even Jadeja didn't go up till Saha did.

KW has been filthy with himself plenty of times playing shots he shouldn't or falling away on shots.

As you said Hawkeye would have cleared that up.

Since the snicko and everything is not 100% reliable, ICC uses all technologies simultaneously.

In a proper DRS setting, this was out dude.

 

[JaDed]

Rain scheduled till Monday,doesn't look good.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

And by the way, KW's face fell BEFORE the ball even reached Saha's hands.

 

[Adijazz1706]

When did this happen?

Underedge apparently, Kohli shoulda reviewed it

 

[Syed1]

Even with the DRS, they probably would have gone with the umpires decision because of the lack of evidence (sound and frames not matching up). Hawkeye would have cleared any doubt, but it's not being used this series.

If DRS was employed the nick would have showed up on the hot spot.

Stop trying to spin it in India's favour. India got hard done by the ump and their board's hesitance to accept the future.

 

[Aman]

As you said Hawkeye would have cleared that up.

Since the snicko and everything is not 100% reliable, ICC uses all technologies simultaneously.

In a proper DRS setting, this was out dude.

You mean hawk eye, and no without hawkeye, that shouldn't have been given purely on that evidence (noise after the ball passing the bat).

 

[JaDed]

Kohli initially looked a bit vocal about DRS but seems to be quiet now.

 

[Rayyman]

Man! I wanted Taylor to get a century. Hope Santner gets a 50 though.

 

[Aman]

If DRS was employed the nick would have showed up on the hot spot.

Stop trying to spin it in India's favour. India got hard done by the ump and their board's hesitance to accept the future.

There are plenty of countries who use DRS without hotspot... I don't know if that is out, because on the snicko evidence, it definitely isn't out.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Kohli initially looked a bit vocal about DRS but seems to be quiet now.

Ownage does that to you.

Haha.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

You mean Kohli wants DRS or doesn't want now?

I think I may have misunderstood you Jaded.

 

[Rayyman]

Unfortunately Umesh got a wicket. Hope he gets smacked for the rest of the game.

 

[Aman]

You are now talking like a lawyer defending a rape accused.

If DRS was there, all will be used.

You'd be surprised by the amount of times we've played a series without both snicko and hotspot.

IIRC the decision rests on the TV rights holder on what they use.

 

[nish_mate]

You'd be surprised by the amount of times we've played a series without both snicko and hotspot.

Yeah but then your lot dont have the dosh to splurge, our lot has the dosh but not the brains!

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

You'd be surprised by the amount of times we've played a series without both snicko and hotspot.

What about hawk eye?

Anyways, odds are high that would be given out.

Through viewing, it was surely out.

Anyways, not a big deal. India deserves to get as much screwed over as possible reg this issue.

 

[JaDed]

You mean Kohli wants DRS or doesn't want now?

I think I may have misunderstood you Jaded.

He wanted it a dialogue on it before,if you see his interviews but now isn't as vocal about its use.Its the opposite of what you understood

 

[nish_mate]

What about hawk eye?

Anyways, odds are high that would be given out.

Through viewing, it was surely out.

Anyways, not a big deal. India deserves to get as much screwed over as possible reg this issue.

what happened to the plain old envelope through the hotel door the night before the match, IMO more effective than any DRS

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

He wanted it a dialogue on it before,if you see his interviews but now isn't as vocal about its use.Its the opposite of what you understood

Oh sorry.

That makes no sense though.

 

[Aman]

What about hawk eye?

Anyways, odds are high that would be given out.

Through viewing, it was surely out.

Anyways, not a big deal. India deserves to get as much screwed over as possible reg this issue.

Hawkeye is usually a given.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

what happened to the plain old envelope through the hotel door the night before the match, IMO more effective than any DRS

BCCI got overconfident and thought we could get by without it.

APPARENTLY NOT.

 

[JaDed]

Oh sorry.

That makes no sense though.

Probably BCCI affect i guess(after getting captaincy and all)

 

[street cricketer]

If DRS was employed the nick would have showed up on the hot spot.

Stop trying to spin it in India's favour. India got hard done by the ump and their board's hesitance to accept the future.

This isn't the first time and it certainly won't be the last.

 

[Hamza_]

Now padosis crying about drs lol. When their alpha board itself went against DRS blindly.

 

[street cricketer]

DRS isn't that straightforward, there was a lack of evidence and even Jadeja didn't go up till Saha did.

IMO the umpires decision would have stood. Had he been given out, then he would have been out.

KW has been filthy with himself plenty of times playing shots he shouldn't or falling away on shots.

Come on Aman, you're the most vocal about Kohli nicking it behind but not given out and going on to make a century in New Zealand.

You should maintain your stance for Kane too in India.

 

[HitWicket]

Ultraedge (aka 'snicko') is part of Hawkeye package nowadays so anywhere Hawkeye is in use ultraedge will also be available. Dont think it's the same case with VirtualEye so it may not be the same in Australia and New Zealand but I would assume the broadcasters there would get snicko and hotspot anyway.

 

[Aman]

If it was out, we consider us even...

 

[nish_mate]

Come on Aman, you're the most vocal about Kohli nicking it behind but not given out and going on to make a century in New Zealand.

You should maintain your stance for Kane too in India.

You will get better odds on it snowing in Mumbai on Christmas Day

 

[Aman]

Come on Aman, you're the most vocal about Kohli nicking it behind but not given out and going on to make a century in New Zealand.

You should maintain your stance for Kane too in India.

I didn't hear anything live, then was shown footage where the noise did not match up with the frames. Why should I think it's out?

 

[street cricketer]

I didn't hear anything live, then was shown footage where the noise did not match up with the frames. Why should I think it's out?

Just saw the replay. But the bat was hardly hitting anything else. And Kane's reaction only adds more credibility.

 

[Hawkeye]

What the hell?

Why this rain suddenly?! No wonder when NZ is on a roll, rain stops the play. Easily NZ's match to lose this.

ICC=BCCI=rain!

 

[90MPH]

A little rain and it's been called off.

Despite BCCIs billions there isn't even adequate covers or drainage facilities.

Pathetic.

 

[ethan hunt]

Folks involved with Indian cricket were making fun of facilities in the westindies

Lol thought they would have learnt from that fiasco.

 

[Thivagar]

[MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] I do rate the NZ spinners over Indian spinners in this match.

Santner, Sodhi, Craig > Ashwin and Jadeja

 

[FreakCricket]

just saw the highlights, so many soft dismissals for the team india. No name spinners of Nwz doing the trick while ashwin putting more and more sunblock not helping my friend.

 

[troodon]

[MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] I do rate the NZ spinners over Indian spinners in this match.

Santner, Sodhi, Craig > Ashwin and Jadeja

Santner is good.

Sodhi is a poor man's Mishra.

Craig is decent.

 

[troodon]

Did not watch Day-2, but what happened? Is it mediocre bowling from India or exceptional batting by Kiwis?

I do believe that if India can break this partnership early tomorrow morning, we can shut the kiwis for under 275.

India were also 152/1 at one point. One wicket and the wheels came off.

 

[Hamza_]

Did not watch Day-2, but what happened? Is it mediocre bowling from India or exceptional batting by Kiwis?

I do believe that if India can break this partnership early tomorrow morning, we can shut the kiwis for under 275.

India were also 152/1 at one point. One wicket and the wheels came off.

Unfortunately for you guys. NZ don't have Rohit Sharma in their side

 

[troodon]

Unfortunately for you guys. NZ don't have Rohit Sharma in their side

They have Guptill.

Latham is decent. I see only 2 quality batsmen in Kiwi side. One is Kane and the other is Wattling.

I never trust Ross Taylor. Luke Ronchi is hit or miss. And then there is a long tail.

I still back India to get a lead in the 1st innings.

Just read Cricinfo, it seems the last few deliveries from Ashwin before the rain took sharp turn and beat the bat of KW.

Interesting Day-3 a head. If it rains tomorrow, the match will be a draw.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

What the hell?

Why this rain suddenly?! No wonder when NZ is on a roll, rain stops the play. Easily NZ's match to lose this.

ICC=BCCI=rain!

They used to water pipes to create artificial rain.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Did not watch Day-2, but what happened? Is it mediocre bowling from India or exceptional batting by Kiwis?

I do believe that if India can break this partnership early tomorrow morning, we can shut the kiwis for under 275.

India were also 152/1 at one point. One wicket and the wheels came off.

Very good Kiwi batting coupled with not so great bowling. Pitch was docile for most part and Kiwis were cautious to not make stupid mistakes.

Then last 30 minutes, things started happening big time and both Kiwi bats started floundering but somehow managed to remain not out.

Match hangs in balance. It really depends on the pitch.

And yes, old ball started doing stuff around 40 overs in both innings. It doing a lot more in this innings but then tea/rain came.

Dunno how much rain will affects the pitch but the match situation is not as straight forward as the scorecard suggests.

Classic test match.

 

[ethan hunt]

The ball is turning enough tbh from the several overs i saw and the conditions are good for reverse swing .
Not a completely docile pitch by any stretch of the imagination .
Kiwis can still collapse if india bowl well enough . Interesting to see how the weather effects conditions.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Docile doesn't mean patta.

It was docile for most part and then came to life where it spun nicely.

Indians too cashed in during the docile part with 150/1. After 40 overs, the ball did something when India batted. It is doing much more now. Reverse wasn't happening for NZ nor India till 40th over.

Cricinfo is there for reference.

 

[Hamza_]

They have Guptill.

Latham is decent. I see only 2 quality batsmen in Kiwi side. One is Kane and the other is Wattling.

I never trust Ross Taylor. Luke Ronchi is hit or miss. And then there is a long tail.

I still back India to get a lead in the 1st innings.

Just read Cricinfo, it seems the last few deliveries from Ashwin before the rain took sharp turn and beat the bat of KW.

Interesting Day-3 a head. If it rains tomorrow, the match will be a draw.

Guptil is already out FYI.

 

[troodon]

Guptil is already out FYI.

Yes. He is out. He is Kiwis Rohit.

Kiwis played 5 bowlers. Their batting is a bit thin. KW is the key. If he gets out early tomorrow morning, I back India to take a 30-40 run lead.

Wattling is another danger guy. He is a fighter. He can cause headaches to Kohli.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

[MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] Who you got on the bench to replace Guptill?

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

It depends on how the pitch plays.

NZ are making India pay the price for stupid batting. This was a simple 400-500 pitch first innings of the game. We made 318. Minimum 100 runs below par.

If the pitch turns big right away (not sure if it would happen now with rain), then NZ is in big trouble with 170 runs behind. Their 2 bats barely survived the last 30 minutes and one was even out.

If the pitch turns big much later on, then NZ can get a sizable 50-100 run lead and India would most likely end up giving a target of just 100.

Mumbai 2012 can happen. Or NZ can collapse tomorrow and we could have a 75 run lead which could be deadly.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

[MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] Who you got on the bench to replace Guptill?

Ronchi and someone else opens. They've got Nicholls too.

 

[troodon]

It depends on how the pitch plays.

NZ are making India pay the price for stupid batting. This was a simple 400-500 pitch first innings of the game. We made 318. Minimum 100 runs below par.

If the pitch turns big right away (not sure if it would happen now with rain), then NZ is in big trouble with 170 runs behind. Their 2 bats barely survived the last 30 minutes and one was even out.

If the pitch turns big much later on, then NZ can get a sizable 50-100 run lead and India would most likely end up giving a target of just 100.

Mumbai 2012 can happen. Or NZ can collapse tomorrow and we could have a 75 run lead which could be deadly.

The first hour of play is the key. If NZ loses Kane, they will end up conceding lead to India. If Kane bats even for another 40 overs, NZ will get the lead.

From the reports, the pitch is expected to turn from Day-3. Lets see tomorrow what happens provided weather cooperates.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

The first hour of play is the key. If NZ loses Kane, they will end up conceding lead to India. If Kane bats even for another 40 overs, NZ will get the lead.

From the reports, the pitch is expected to turn from Day-3. Lets see tomorrow what happens provided weather cooperates.

Rain factor can impact pitch.

Also tomorrow, we could see a session washed off too.

Very interesting day nonetheless.

 

[Adijazz1706]

Rain factor can impact pitch.

Also tomorrow, we could see a session washed off too.

Very interesting day nonetheless.

The rain will firm up the pitch for a session at least imo, should make it easier.

 

[Executioner]

The crowd turnout for a match between no. 2 and no.5(?) shows just the state of test cricket. Dissappointed

 

[Thivagar]

Santner is good.

Sodhi is a poor man's Mishra.

Craig is decent.

Sodhi is good, he is very tall, will get lots of bounce and he is very subtle. You can't compare him to Mishra, both are too different kinds of bowlers despite both being leggies.

 

[Adil_94]

Kiwis need to get 450 to win Imo. I think Ashwin will run through them tomorrow. Kiwis will be 250 all out.

 

[PakLFC]

Chasing last will be hard for NZ. They need a 150 first innings lead going in to the second one. I am rooting for the blackcap's with all my heart. Cummon New Zealand!

 

[Ab Fan]

NZ need to make sure they don't require anything over 200 to chase in 4th inning. An under 200 total will be fun and just a couple of quality fifties from any of top four would do the deal.

Now for that to happen, they need a lead of 80-90 runs minimum and then bowl well in 3rd inning. Getting India out to 250-270 in 3rd inning isn't a real tough deal if you bowl well and smartly on a fourth day pitch.

However, the first task is to reach close to 400 mark in first inning which itself isn't that easy.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Even Simon Doul who is usually very biased thought Kane had a clear edge, people who watched it knows it. Aman's posts are like Steve Bucknor