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India v New Zealand | 1st Test | Kanpur | Sep 22-26, 2016 | Day 4

Just 50 runs more and we should declare. Kiwis will be out before stumps. Easy Victory. Take tomorrow off and enjoy.
 
Yeah but would like to see one of these go on and ton up as this will give them some confidence to carry forward for the home season.
 
Come on guys, be focused and work hard to get that #1 ranking back!

Also hope Pujara and Vijay score tons.
 
I think India should try to score 120 in the first session and declare. There is always the possibility of rain and we don't want this one to slip away like the others before.
 
Napa said:
I think India should try to score 120 in the first session and declare. There is always the possibility of rain and we don't want this one to slip away like the others before.
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50 is enough to win.
 
Really when was the last time when one our guys tonned up in India apart from the Rahane twin tons??
 
I guess we have to put up with the current lot having gotten used to golden standards of batsmanship.
Although it's difficult to simmer down the expectations though:yk
 
Vijay these days throws his wicket in 60s-70s. Hopefully, Pujara won't throw his wicket and hit a century in this test.
 
On a serious note, what target do you guys think India is looking at?

Will Kohli bat for two sessions or declare before Tea?
 
Vijay is quite consistent but often makes these 60s and 70s and gets out. He needs to kick on to make big scores, that is what is separating him from the likes of Cook and Warner.
 
India will win it now. No way are NZ chasing whatever the target is.
 
Yup pretty much on d money there.We will definitely see them performing better as the season progresses.
 
Kohli just can't resist from playing his shots. He needs to learn from Vijay and Pujara.
 
Gone.He just needs to improve his defensive game.Certainly can take a leaf out of Williamson's play.
 
Rohit has to make it count this time. No pressure, big lead already, should have no excuses.
 
Thor said:
Kohli looked like a nervous wreck out there.
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He tried to play the attacking role so India could get some quick runs. India would need atleast 4 sessions, remember we have only 2 bowlers to do the damage. The kiwi bowlers have bowled well to curb the run rate in the morning session.

Ideally we need another hundred runs or so, I think they should bat till tea (if they last that is), possibly at a faster rate in the 2nd session. Should try to get that lead as close to 400 as possible and have a bowl at the kiwis from tea onwards.
 
Kiwis have donr alright .
They may even beat india if they win a toss with the way the pitches break up.
 
street cricketer said:
He tried to play the attacking role so India could get some quick runs. India would need atleast 4 sessions, remember we have only 2 bowlers to do the damage. The kiwi bowlers have bowled well to curb the run rate in the morning session.

Ideally we need another hundred runs or so, I think they should bat till tea (if they last that is), possibly at a faster rate in the 2nd session. Should try to get that lead as close to 400 as possible and have a bowl at the kiwis from tea onwards.
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You mean India needs 120 overs to bowl out New Zealand and in case of anything less, the Kiwis have a chance of securing a draw?
 
Just as I said...collapse will happen.

If you actually go front and back, runs can be scored. Not easy runs but scorable.

Plus it always gets easier once you hang in there.

Its just that Kohli and Rahane suck.
 
Ball will go soft and runs will come.

Test cricket is all about riding out tough storms.

Do it and India can score even 350-400 in 3rd innings (assuming we want to bat that long).

But you need skills and temperament to ride out the storms.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Ball will go soft and runs will come.

Test cricket is all about riding out tough storms.

Do it and India can score even 350-400 in 3rd innings (assuming we want to bat that long).

But you need skills and temperament to ride out the storms.
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But new ball is due in 5 overs no?
 
For this innings Rohit has to bring his ODI game.It is turning and bouncing so his counter-attacking game might just pay off.Anyways he is just too much of a dasher.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
But new ball is due in 5 overs no?
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New ball is a tricky business.

When India batted in 3rd innings, new ball didn't do much.

When NZ batted and we took the 2nd new ball, it did a bit (more so due to the lines we bowled)....but not unplayable spin.

So I supposed new ball will pose some threats but if you just survive that, it will be easier.

It also depends on whether the pitch has permanently turned rogue or not.

I am watching the game now and I see that if you are decisive, runs will come.

Santner's lines were the toughest to play.
 
They should just go hammer and tongs from here on.Get the lead to around 375-400 and declare or get out trying.Can't see NZ chasing this imho.
 
Thor said:
Huh?
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Against spin on turners.

Maybe not suck but not effective for sure.

Went missing the whole SA series and only scored on the Delhi 4th test track dead rubber on the relatively easiest track of the lot.

Jaddu had more impactful knocks in the first 3 tests against SA.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Rahane still doesn't get forward.

Tired of him not learning from his mistakes.
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Yep. It's dangerous staying back to these spinners with the bounce being generated. No attempt to kill the spin at all. i wouldn't say rahane sucks but he's definitely inferior to Pujara. Kohli on the other hand truly does suck against quality spin on turners.
 
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Sidhu, Azhar, Sachin, Dravid, Laxman, Ganguly - all will be crying at our spin playing state if they were to be honest with their opinion.
 
Crafty_Indian said:
Similarly India also collapsed to the second new ball courtesy to that excellent spell from Boult.:)
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The point being?

I was talking about spin.

Boult hit his stride, bowled beautifully and got some help in the evening. He looked flat the next day. Indian pacers got almost nothing from new ball. Boult got nothing from the new ball (apart from some initial swing) in 2nd innings.

So odds are against them reg pacers.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
The point being?

I was talking about spin.

Boult hit his stride, bowled beautifully and got some help in the evening. He looked flat the next day. Indian pacers got almost nothing from new ball. Boult got nothing from the new ball (apart from some initial swing) in 2nd innings.

So odds are against them reg pacers.
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And I was considering it from a broader perspective ie both pace and spin.
 
Honestly, I don't think the pitch has turned rogue yet.

This spin we are saying could be the spin we get from the 40-70 over ball.

70-80...it got relatively easier due to softer ball just like 2 innings in the past.

Indian bowlers will have to work hard till the ball gets old in 4th innings.

Get 350-400 lead just in case and let's put pressure on them.
 
Surely Pujara could have padded that delivery away if he was bowling it outside leg stump.Couldn't be given lbw ryt??
 
Inspite of everything, it was still a great session for us from the match point of view.

100 extra runs added.

Add another 75 more and let's GO.
 
Kohli bhai sharam Karo!

Even Australians bat better than you!

And Tailunt is outscoring you:(
 
JattMaula said:
Kohli bhai sharam Karo!

Even Australians bat better than you!

And Tailunt is outscoring you:(
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He's a terrific LOI batsman but Kohli the test batsman, while good, is nowhere near as good as Root,Smith or Williamson. Very overrated in this format.
 
The pitch doesn't seem to be too dangerous for batting atm, isn't it?

Still hasn't turned into a totally unplayable pitch Imo.
 
We are scoring much more in our 2nd dig than NZ did in their first. That's a very good sign for our team. Need to step on the throttle and punish their bowlers now.
 
Rahane seems to have learnt on not missing out of soft runs something which VVS lacked.Nothing wrong with that if you have played some quality knocks already.
 
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