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India vs England | Tri-Series | Brisbane | 20th January 2015

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[MENTION=31948]hur rizvi[/MENTION] Wasn't trying to sound insulting, I was brought up in an era of Bond, Akhtar, Lee and Tait. So obviously the drop off is quite big :P

No problem bro It's all fun discussion :yk

those bowlers were once in a life time bowler, I firmly beleive not many before them hit those mid to late 150s speeds

Presently i feel average pace of bowlers have increased but raw pace of genuine pacers has gone down
 
I think, ENG it's targeting bonus point & a positive NRR - they have a huge negative NRR already in first match.

What ENG is trying is to make sure, even if they lose to IND & AUS in next round conceding a bonus point to AUS, still it 'll take IND to beat AUS to advance.
 
Wisden Maniac: "If India continue to this play this way, they can hope for a place in the World Cup finals not as contenders but as spectators..."

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England going for the bonus point to rub India's nose in it
 
Without Aaron and Nehra, there is no x-factor about this Indian attack. Very poor combination.
 
I am convinced Binny can do what Bk can do with the ball.

Also Binny is a much better bat too.

Bk has no place in this odi team in wc

I would pick another bat to bolster our batting in Place of Bk.
 
Munaf patel and praveen kumar thrown out? Atleast they keep it tight and praveen can actually swing the ball both ways while not going for 7 an over
 
Aaron is a spray gun, don't know why Nehra have been kept out though?

Aaron was actually starting to bowl very well in ODIs, bowled a lot of yorkers and bouncers at a much quicker pace than Umesh.

As for Nehra, this nonsense called "going with the youth" worked against him. He was not only bowling quick again, but his control and swing was really good.
 
Malcolm Yadav going at 7.5 an over as usual
 
India selected lots of passengers for this wc.

Dhawan - he is a hack, but willl be useful againt teams like lanka and other trundler attacks.

Rayadu - a plate of. Biryani can go a long way.

Axar - these aus pitches will not help dart bowlers like him. His batting is just terrible so far.

Bk - send him back to india before he loses all the confidence.

Umesh - would prefer Aaron. Aaron can bowl at higher pace and against teams like pak and lanka, he can be handy. Umesh these days can only bowl 138k mostly. We already have ishant to do that.
 
Yu need tall hit the deck bowlers n aus.

All ndia selected are short swing bowlers.

Only shami hits the deck hard. But he is a midget.
 
You kind of get the feeling that Dhoni doesn't really give a damn about this series, experiments galore starting from the very first thing, the toss.
 
Yes, good mention about Nehra! He was always a good trier and his experience would have counted! Praveen Kumar shouldn't have been forgotten so much! I remember he was instrumental in one of the Aussie tour triumphs (ODI)
 
Mooen bhai is a truly mediocre cricketer. I was right on the money when I called him the English Hafeez.
 
India selected lots of passengers for this wc.

Dhawan - he is a hack, but willl be useful againt teams like lanka and other trundler attacks.

Rayadu - a plate of. Biryani can go a long way.

Axar - these aus pitches will not help dart bowlers like him. His batting is just terrible so far.

Bk - send him back to india before he loses all the confidence.

Umesh - would prefer Aaron. Aaron can bowl at higher pace and against teams like pak and lanka, he can be handy. Umesh these days can only bowl 138k mostly. We already have ishant to do that.

Agree with everything above.

As for Umesh, he is actually bowling 143-145 in ODIs, but is a rubbish ODI bowler irrespective of pace. I too would have preferred Aaron, who might be an equally poor spray-gun, but has the ability to come up with a lot more intense and quicker spells. Aaron for Australia, Umesh for England should have been our policy.
 
Why india is chosing to bat after winning the toss??/

do they want to see whether they can defend or not?
 
Why india is chosing to bat after winning the toss??/

do they want to see whether they can defend or not?

Not just defend, but they also need to see if India's batting lineup has the ability to judge a good total for our bowlers to defend. They chase alright, but setting up a target is something totally different.
 
38 @83 since 2013, not half-bad by English ODI standards, especially when you consider the precedence set by Captain Cook.

Wasn't taking a shot at him, he is arguably their 2nd best odi batsman right now. Way more stable than Moeen and scores quicker than Cook.
 
Stuart Binny is really a strike bowler or india checking their options before the world cup
 
Wasn't taking a shot at him, he is arguably their 2nd best odi batsman right now. Way more stable than Moeen and scores quicker than Cook.

True, he has done well since getting promoted up the order. Great timer of the ball and can make use of PP overs.

Interestingly enough, he has also looked to score quicker in Tests, although it has come at a cost. Too many fifties in the last English summer but not enough tons.
 
True, he has done well since getting promoted up the order. Great timer of the ball and can make use of PP overs.

Interestingly enough, he has also looked to score quicker in Tests, although it has come at a cost. Too many fifties in the last English summer but not enough tons.

Considering he has been opening in English/ Australia/ SA conditions, that average and SR is more than decent.
 
Stuart Binny is really a strike bowler or india checking their options before the world cup

He can't be a strike bowler. Indians are simply trying to explore all options here and I feel that's why they even batted first after winning the toss.
 
England to win it with a bonus point.

Now it would be difficult for India to qualify for the final in the tri-series. I'm sure still Dhoni doesn't really give a damn about it, he will keep experimenting :))
 
I would pay to see a bowling attack of stuart binny bhuvneshwar kumar kulasekara and darren sammy
 
He can't be a strike bowler. Indians are simply trying to explore all options here and I feel that's why they even batted first after winning the toss.

It should be like that only ..Binny can be a good option for 3rd seamer but opening the attack is not a good option
 
Harsha Bhogle can cure the obesity epidemic. After listening to him for 20 minutes I have lost my appetite
 
BK is carrying injury - someone should be held responsible for hurrying him. He was never a 140KM bowler, but he is just releasing the ball as they do in net session for batsman. Probably some soft tissue issue - you can carry on limping, but can't put stress.

He is much better than this with new white ball.
 
BK is carrying injury - someone should be held responsible for hurrying him. He was never a 140KM bowler, but he is just releasing the ball as they do in net session for batsman. Probably some soft tissue issue - you can carry on limping, but can't put stress.

He is much better than this with new white ball.

Yeah looks like nehra & dinda will make a comeback :(
 
BK is fantastic with the new ball, so definitely something is wrong here.
 
Harsha Bhogle can cure the obesity epidemic. After listening to him for 20 minutes I have lost my appetite

I remember during the test series Hayden shutting him up. Hayden got fed up with his constant blabbering, I guess Indian viewers didn't like Haydos picking on Bhogle :nehra , haven't heard Hayden during the Odi's. Lost his job maybe
 
I remember during the test series Hayden shutting him up. Hayden got fed up with his constant blabbering, I guess Indian viewers didn't like Haydos picking on Bhogle :nehra , haven't heard Hayden during the Odi's. Lost his job maybe

Aussies don't like Hayden talking u can ask them on PP he is downright atrocious.Mark Taylor is very good in a non-Ch 9 environment.
But yes overall itself imo Commentators have regressed.
 
These matches are good for India. Reality check. Now they know not pick Rayudu in any of the remaining matches..
 
BK is carrying injury - someone should be held responsible for hurrying him. He was never a 140KM bowler, but he is just releasing the ball as they do in net session for batsman. Probably some soft tissue issue - you can carry on limping, but can't put stress.

He is much better than this with new white ball.

He has caught the IBV..... Indian bowler virus, happens to every Indian bowler after their first season, they lose pace, ability to bowl one side of the wicket and not get thrashed all around the park.
 
Kiwis, Eng and Aus can fight about these bileteral and tri serieses, but the WC will be fight between Asia (Ind, SL, Pak) and Africa.:)
 
He can't be a strike bowler. Indians are simply trying to explore all options here and I feel that's why they even batted first after winning the toss.

I agree and somehow i feel Indians taking it like a practice match but this performance is unforgivable.
 
Yadav speedstar troubling English batters :boytcott

138 kph, 143, 141, 143, 108 (impressed :msd more ) , 147

Good over by Yadav :akhtar
 
What an ugly game India has played here. 150 all out batting like cowboys and opening the bowling with Bunny. I hope its a one off game. Get it out of the system before the WC. Much better now than in the WC. :dada
 
He has caught the IBV..... Indian bowler virus, happens to every Indian bowler after their first season, they lose pace, ability to bowl one side of the wicket and not get thrashed all around the park.

BK never had pace it was his line and length sad day for Indian team honestly.
 
Ian Bell is so good to watch.. beautiful batsman.

Now he has the opportunity to play some significant fast innings at the top of the order, with Cook gone. IIRC when KP retired from ODIs Belly did rather well as opener.
 
Now he has the opportunity to play some significant fast innings at the top of the order, with Cook gone. IIRC when KP retired from ODIs Belly did rather well as opener.

Bell and Pietersen combo could have been interesting, but Cook was doing rather well in 2011-2012.
 
These matches are good for India. Reality check. Now they know not pick Rayudu in any of the remaining matches..
I will take a recovering low confidence UV over Hackudu anyday. I dont know what the selectors were smoking the day they picked him. Maybe Rayudu has some sextapes of the selectors :srini
 
This is going to be an epic phainty for India, a train wreck in slow motion
 
Aussies don't like Hayden talking u can ask them on PP he is downright atrocious.Mark Taylor is very good in a non-Ch 9 environment.
But yes overall itself imo Commentators have regressed.

Yeah I like Mark Taylor, decent commentator. I like this team Mark Richardson, Bishop, Holding, and Mbangwa :wasim
 
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