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India vs Sri Lanka | 5th ODI | Nov 16, 2014 | Ranchi

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the best we can hope for is losing by less than 100 runs this time.
 
SL lost 6-1 to India om 2006 as well :facepalm:......months later white washed England 5-0 in England :junaid......
 
Dilshan wants to end Kulkarani's career but he is like T.Perera, will clean up hacks, tail-enders and remain in the team.
 
matthews so scarred after last match, decided to bat first inspite of the massive dew later on.
 
"India's bowling reminds you of the day when Ganguly used to partner Srinath in Tests back in the 90s. Three spinners and two seamers, one of whom is Binny." :))
 
If Sri Lanka don't bash these trundlers for 350+, then there is seriously something wrong with their Cricket. I am expecting Aussie wickets to be flat, so they need to score big.
 
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Abhilash93 said:
"India's bowling reminds you of the day when Ganguly used to partner Srinath in Tests back in the 90s. Three spinners and two seamers, one of whom is Binny." :))
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Dhawal - 130kph
Binny 115 Kph.

I don't remember any opening pair with this kind of pace. Not even the India of 90s.
 
Electron said:
Dhawal - 130kph
Binny 115 Kph.

I don't remember any opening pair with this kind of pace. Not even the India of 90s.
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Depressing man.

Why are we wasting our time with Dhawal kinda bowlers?

Atleast Binny can bat and if he bowls decently can be the 5th bowler in seamer friendly ODI conditions (not supporting Binny but there is some logic in it - Dhawal has no logic).
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Depressing man.

Why are we wasting our time with Dhawal kinda bowlers?

Atleast Binny can bat and if he bowls decently can be the 5th bowler in seamer friendly ODI conditions (not supporting Binny but there is some logic in it - Dhawal has no logic).
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rest to other bowlers keeping future commitments in mind?
 
Abhilash93 said:
rest to other bowlers keeping future commitments in mind?
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I understand that but this kind of testing is harmful too.

For example, when you select a player, you have to give him enough chances before you can discard him. And if he performs in a game while flopping in 2-3, you will be obligated to give him enough games to see whether he is good enough or not.

That's why bad selection is harmful. Lost opportunity cost.

Like for example - Do we have better ODI batsmen than Rayudu?

Absolutely.

But Rayudu was selected and hence had to be backed. He scores slow and now that he has performed in a few games, we have to stick with him even though its clear there are better guys out there and this guy's SR is an issue.

Maybe Dhawal deserved this chance and I am being harsh on him. But I don't see much point in focusing on 120-130 kmph bowlers who have no supreme skills or bounce to extract.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Depressing man.

Why are we wasting our time with Dhawal kinda bowlers?

Atleast Binny can bat and if he bowls decently can be the 5th bowler in seamer friendly ODI conditions (not supporting Binny but there is some logic in it - Dhawal has no logic).
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True, there is nothing special about Dhawal. We don't have this concept of promoting raw talent when it comes to bowling. Instead we go for a defensive approach where trundlers are much in demand.
 
Electron said:
True, there is nothing special about Dhawal. We don't have this concept of promoting raw talent when it comes to bowling. Instead we go for a defensive approach where trundlers are much in demand.
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Exactly.

There is a reason why selectors are HUMANS and not computers that are fed pitch and weather conditions and asked to spit out the best performers in domestic cricket (based on yardsticks like average and wickets combo for a decent sample set).

But our selectors don't work like that for most part when it comes to selecting bowlers.

I still can't believe Umesh was not picked for England tour in Tests.
 
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sensible-indian-fan said:
I understand that but this kind of testing is harmful too.

For example, when you select a player, you have to give him enough chances before you can discard him. And if he performs in a game while flopping in 2-3, you will be obligated to give him enough games to see whether he is good enough or not.

That's why bad selection is harmful. Lost opportunity cost.

Like for example - Do we have better ODI batsmen than Rayudu?

Absolutely.

But Rayudu was selected and hence had to be backed. He scores slow and now that he has performed in a few games, we have to stick with him even though its clear there are better guys out there and this guy's SR is an issue.

Maybe Dhawal deserved this chance and I am being harsh on him. But I don't see much point in focusing on 120-130 kmph bowlers who have no supreme skills or bounce to extract.
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Dhawal was hyped to be a swing bowler like Bhuvi.But that clearly doesnt look true

Dunno why Kohli dropped Yadav.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
I understand that but this kind of testing is harmful too.

For example, when you select a player, you have to give him enough chances before you can discard him. And if he performs in a game while flopping in 2-3, you will be obligated to give him enough games to see whether he is good enough or not.

That's why bad selection is harmful. Lost opportunity cost.

Like for example - Do we have better ODI batsmen than Rayudu?

Absolutely.

But Rayudu was selected and hence had to be backed. He scores slow and now that he has performed in a few games, we have to stick with him even though its clear there are better guys out there and this guy's SR is an issue.

Maybe Dhawal deserved this chance and I am being harsh on him. But I don't see much point in focusing on 120-130 kmph bowlers who have no supreme skills or bounce to extract.
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Agree on the Rayudu part. Kedar Jadhav averages 47 in List A @ SR of 110. He had a bumper Ranji season scoring 1200 runs. Also did well in India A's Australia tour. How Rayudu was selected over someone like him is inexplicable.
Btw, who do you think should play instead of Dhawal now that other bowler are rested? Ishwar Pandey?
 
Saurav said:
Dhawal was hyped to be a swing bowler like Bhuvi.But that clearly doesnt look true

Dunno why Kohli dropped Yadav.
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Yadav may have been rested. No need to play him in dead rubbers. But we should be giving chances to promising young quicks rather than the likes of Stuart binny :facepalm:
 
Downright insulting to Sri Lanka. India has fielded a C grade side for this game! Lets see if Lankans can compete now
 
Abhilash93 said:
Agree on the Rayudu part. Kedar Jadhav averages 47 in List A @ SR of 110. He had a bumper Ranji season scoring 1200 runs. Also did well in India A's Australia tour. How Rayudu was selected over someone like him is inexplicable.
Btw, who do you think should play instead of Dhawal now that other bowler are rested? Ishwar Pandey?
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Rayudu offered biryani to dhoni.
 
Abhilash93 said:
Agree on the Rayudu part. Kedar Jadhav averages 47 in List A @ SR of 110. He had a bumper Ranji season scoring 1200 runs. Also did well in India A's Australia tour. How Rayudu was selected over someone like him is inexplicable.
Btw, who do you think should play instead of Dhawal now that other bowler are rested? Ishwar Pandey?
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Sandeep Sharma is a good option if they are looking for a swing bowler trundler

else Bumrah,Rahul Shukla or Suyal should be tried
 
Akshar is flighting it here. And there I was thinking this lad's just a darter @sensible_indian_fan .
 
Noobosauras said:
I like that spirit. Yeah baby!!
As they say in India in street cricket
"*Blank* main dum nahin, par hum kisi se kam nahin" :D
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with my superpower my mind i was able to translate and now i exactly understand what you are saying[emoji41]
 
Chandimal starts of with sweeping like a fool, then thinks he works for NASAand launches a ball into space. It comes down crashing like his future in SL cricket. I want Dickwella to be given a consistent run. He needs to open the first odis regardless of what he scores.
 
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SLC should ban Chandimal. He should be deported back to an abondoned Island.
 
This pitch looks like a typical Lankan wicket. Scoring won't be as easy against spinners. Mahela should give Lanka a fighting total.
 
Abhilash93 said:
Agree on the Rayudu part. Kedar Jadhav averages 47 in List A @ SR of 110. He had a bumper Ranji season scoring 1200 runs. Also did well in India A's Australia tour. How Rayudu was selected over someone like him is inexplicable.
Btw, who do you think should play instead of Dhawal now that other bowler are rested? Ishwar Pandey?
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When one selects a squad in a certain way and then decides to rest main bowlers, then they don't have much options do they?

But I think Ishwar Pandey has a better future in international cricket.

More pace. Outswing. Has good yorkers.

He has to mature for sure but trying him out is not a bad idea.
 
rayadu will probably never get called. neither will ohja nor harbhajan or the numerous chuckers that india seem to churn out.
 
anuk said:
rayadu will probably never get called. neither will ohja nor harbhajan or the numerous chuckers that india seem to churn out.
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I am waiting for Rayudu to get called.

Hopeless chucker.

Sohaib Maqsood wasn't called too.

Dodgy part timers don't get called very soon bcos its a bore job to test and ban them.

But they should be.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
I am waiting for Rayudu to get called.

Hopeless chucker.

Sohaib Maqsood wasn't called too.

Dodgy part timers don't get called very soon bcos its a bore job to test and ban them.

But they should be.
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i think he's not called because he's indian. until an indian is called i shall continue to say that
 
Just turned on the TV and saw that Rayudu was bowling.. Turned it off and went away
 
Saurav said:
Maybe because Jaddu is not playing.Really wanted to see both to compare on this sort of pitch

btw see Binny's stats :P
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Yeah Binny's dibbly dobbly stuff is fine. Working for now.

Jaddu would have done well in this pitch too.

But not sure whether he would have done better than Axar.

Karn has been disappointing.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Yeah Binny's dibbly dobbly stuff is fine. Working for now.

Jaddu would have done well in this pitch too.

But not sure whether he would have done better than Axar.

Karn has been disappointing.
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Jadeja would do well on most pitches , he is accurate, keeps it tight.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Yeah Binny's dibbly dobbly stuff is fine. Working for now.

Jaddu would have done well in this pitch too.

But not sure whether he would have done better than Axar.

Karn has been disappointing.
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yeah Karn has been a big let down.Not sure if he would do well in Aus Tests now.Mishra atleast turns the ball

About Binny,I still hope hes our 5th bowler instead of spinner in Aus(most likely Ashwin)
 
Saurav said:
yeah Karn has been a big let down.Not sure if he would do well in Aus Tests now.Mishra atleast turns the ball

About Binny,I still hope hes our 5th bowler instead of spinner in Aus(most likely Ashwin)
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One game and I won't write off bowlers.

Binny if he can bat well and bowl economically (full 10 overs), he can be a fifth bowler (most likely in place of Ashwin with the form Axar is in).

But I don't have much hopes of Binny.

You see, SL, Pak kinda teams will make dibbly dobbly pacers look better.

Teams like Aus, SA and England would love these pacers.

So I won't jump the gun.
 
India will go with 5 bowlers in most games in WC

Shami , kumar , ashwin , jadeja plus one more pacer.

Raina and sharma would fill in .
 
Wonderful batting from Mathews! Finally something to cheer for the Lankans..
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
One game and I won't write off bowlers.

Binny if he can bat well and bowl economically (full 10 overs), he can be a fifth bowler (most likely in place of Ashwin with the form Axar is in).

But I don't have much hopes of Binny.

You see, SL, Pak kinda teams will make dibbly dobbly pacers look better.

Teams like Aus, SA and England would love these pacers.

So I won't jump the gun.
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But its also more about conditions.Hes likely to get more help than spinners clearly.Conditions can make even such guys a handful.

and hes shown that can be accurate and get swing even here.Yeah batting is still to be tested

maybe its too late anyway.

Karn struggled last game too.I like him but he looks like a container than wicket taker
 
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