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The ongoing two-Test series against India has been branded Mission India by the West Indies — a campaign that aims far beyond just competing on the field. At its heart lies a broader ambition: to reignite the golden era of West Indies cricket, attract sponsorships, upgrade infrastructure, and, in essence, Make West Indies Great Again (MWIGA). However, everyone associated with West Indies cricket agrees that this revival must start with performances on the pitch.

A constellation of Caribbean greats — including Brian Lara, Sir Vivian Richards, and Richie Richardson — has landed in Delhi as part of the MWIGA movement. Their mission includes delivering an inspiring message to the team led by Roston Chase before the second Test. “We’re planning to head to Delhi to have a quick chat with the boys,” Lara said in Mumbai. “It’s never easy to beat India at home, but we hope to be competitive. Hopefully, the next match will give us a real contest.”

Following a series of humiliating defeats — from the pink-ball Test against Australia to the white-ball losses against Nepal — one might have thought the West Indies had already hit rock bottom. But the innings defeat in Ahmedabad proved otherwise, showing that the decline has, in fact, deepened.

The first Test concluded in less than half its scheduled time. Across both innings, the West Indies failed to even bat out 90 overs — the standard quota for a single day in a five-day match. No batter reached 50; none even crossed 40. To say the team is underperforming would be putting it mildly.

There was little evidence of the grit and resilience typically required at the Test level. The 16 maiden overs they played weren't a result of calculated defence or tactical patience, but rather a reflection of indecisiveness and lack of intent. As the second Test approaches — starting Friday (October 10) — the focus isn’t on whether the West Indies can level the series, but simply on how many overs they’ll manage to survive.

India, unsurprisingly, go into the Delhi Test as overwhelming favourites. For them, it’s business as usual — maintaining dominance over a team that hasn’t won a series in India since 1983, the same year West Indies coach Daren Sammy was born. With no changes expected to India’s playing XI from the first Test, the spotlight shifts to a couple of players under scrutiny.

Most notably, eyes will be on Sai Sudharsan. The Tamil Nadu batter has struggled to find form, managing only 147 runs in seven Test innings, including a disappointing seven in Ahmedabad. Yet, captain Shubman Gill remains supportive. “Not everyone is going to score a hundred in every match,” Gill remarked. “Young players need time and opportunities. We judge them on potential, not just numbers.”

Meanwhile, Nitish Kumar Reddy — who neither batted nor bowled extensively in the first Test (just four overs) — could be asked to play a more active role in Delhi, possibly batting higher up the order.

Beyond individual performances, India will be aiming to secure the 12 World Test Championship (WTC) points on offer. That goal is expected to be within reach, especially on the dry, worn-out surface at the Arun Jaitley Stadium in New Delhi.


Squads:

West Indies:
John Campbell, Tagenarine Chanderpaul, Alick Athanaze, Brandon King, Roston Chase(c), Shai Hope(w), Justin Greaves, Khary Pierre, Jomel Warrican, Johann Layne, Jayden Seales, Jediah Blades, Kevlon Anderson, Anderson Phillip, Tevin Imlach

India: Yashasvi Jaiswal, KL Rahul, Sai Sudharsan, Shubman Gill(c), Dhruv Jurel(w), Ravindra Jadeja, Washington Sundar, Nitish Kumar Reddy, Kuldeep Yadav, Jasprit Bumrah, Mohammed Siraj, N Jagadeesan, Axar Patel, Devdutt Padikkal, Prasidh Krishna

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Cricbuzz : What to expect: Yet another one-sided Test with eminent likelihood of an early finish. The black soil pitch is expected to offer turn, making life definitely difficult for the West Indian batters, none of whom has managed a substantial score in the first Test. The Indian players - batters and bowlers alike - should relish the conditions and it would be quite an achievement by the visitors if they succeed to force India to bat twice in the Test .

Cricinfo : Delhi is likely to be a typical Indian track, good for batting on the first two-and-a-bit days before bringing the spinners into the game. The drop in temperatures should make it difficult for the pitch to break up suddenly. The week in the lead-up to the Test has brought some rain, but the Test is not likely to be affected.
 
Delhi is one of the toughest pitches to bat on for visiting teams. One of the most spin-friendly wickets in India too. West Indies would count themselves lucky if they manage to avoid an innings defeat.
 
Been a long time since I saw the carpark. I'm sure Indian fans were missing it too. :kp

Along with the Pan Bahar and Vimal ads plastered all over it.
 
@Devadwal FYI

India have won the toss and have opted to bat

Teams:

West Indies
(Playing XI): John Campbell, Tagenarine Chanderpaul, Alick Athanaze, Shai Hope, Roston Chase(c), Tevin Imlach(w), Justin Greaves, Jomel Warrican, Khary Pierre, Anderson Phillip, Jayden Seales

India (Playing XI): Yashasvi Jaiswal, KL Rahul, Sai Sudharsan, Shubman Gill(c), Dhruv Jurel(w), Ravindra Jadeja, Washington Sundar, Nitish Kumar Reddy, Kuldeep Yadav, Jasprit Bumrah, Mohammed Siraj
 
The Kotla is more like a fortess for us. India lost a test match at Delhi back in 1987 coincidentally against the West Indies.
 
@Devadwal FYI

India have won the toss and have opted to bat

Teams:

West Indies
(Playing XI): John Campbell, Tagenarine Chanderpaul, Alick Athanaze, Shai Hope, Roston Chase(c), Tevin Imlach(w), Justin Greaves, Jomel Warrican, Khary Pierre, Anderson Phillip, Jayden Seales

India (Playing XI): Yashasvi Jaiswal, KL Rahul, Sai Sudharsan, Shubman Gill(c), Dhruv Jurel(w), Ravindra Jadeja, Washington Sundar, Nitish Kumar Reddy, Kuldeep Yadav, Jasprit Bumrah, Mohammed Siraj
I hope better sense prevails & India stops this ftb Sai experiment for good, he is more of a tailender with the bat.
 
Delhi weather is good right now. It should be more balanced pitch than what we have seen with Delhi wicket in recent past. But I wished this would be the case when South Africa tours India. But at that time, there will be fog, pollution and more cooler weather.
 
Delhi weather is good right now. It should be more balanced pitch than what we have seen with Delhi wicket in recent past. But I wished this would be the case when South Africa tours India. But at that time, there will be fog, pollution and more cooler weather.
India vs South Africa test series schedule at Guwahati and Kolkata. Not much fog there will be in Guwahati. :kp
 
Praying for West Indies to win! Time for a historic win to end this myth of India as a top class team. Ending Sachin “Marketing” Tendulkar’s test career was not enough! We Carribean folk are here for demolition! :wenger :asghar
 
Praying for West Indies to win! Time for a historic win to end this myth of India as a top class team. :wenger :asghar
Try it. Pakistan had also tried thrice in Asia cup but got humiliated by India.

Same with Indies but they are nice people's so I'm respectable towards them .

:klopp :kp
 
BCCI should have produced greenish deck for this series. I don't want India to win one sided match. It's really very boring. :kp
 
Traditional Test Cricket - very steady careful morning. More respect than the bowling deserved to be honest. It's obvious there's clear direction from Gambhir and team management - "grind it out. If we see you taking risks, you're out"

Sai Sudarshan has started well...looked fluent to start but he better make this one count. Literally last chance saloon...we're unlikely to bat a second time and there's so many folks in the queue. Once Pant comes back, I think we have to take a chance on Jurel at 3. It's not his perfect position...he's better at 5 but he's been too good not to take the chance.
 
This Sai guy will look to get 50 so that he can take up this no.3 spot for 2 more years & do nothing.

It would be better if one of Jurel or Reddy play in no.3 position when Pant returns to the test team against South Africa.
 
Praying for West Indies to win! Time for a historic win to end this myth of India as a top class team. Ending Sachin “Marketing” Tendulkar’s test career was not enough! We Carribean folk are here for demolition! :wenger :asghar
LOL ... yea, the countless accolades from all over the cricketing world including by bonafide greats of the game (I'll lose out of pages if I name them), and a 100 international centuries were all a result of marketing by the media. 🐒 🐒 🤡 🤡
 
The same usual dominance continues. This is a kind of pitch and bowling attack where if Mohammad Rizwan scores a 269, our PP mate @Rana will still criticise him. Hence, runs scored is insignificant in this series.
 
India will declare at 550-600.

West Indies will score 150 & 180 to lose by an innings again.

West Indies should stop this mental torture & leave test cricket.
 
Just tuned in and Yash gets 150!
Must admire the stamina and mental strength of dude, his intensity and focus never lowers no matter who the opponents or whatever the conditions.

Still think Sai Sudarshan threw away an oppurtunity, albeit that delivery that got him was an absolute jaffa
:ua
 
The Ferozshah Kotla has to be the ugliest stadium going, world wide.

Can anyone think of a more pathetic looking Stadium/stands?

Looks like a glorified cycle stand!.../ Car parking lot


Thank fully they have done away with the pathetic paan masaala advts that were plastered on every nook and cranny almost every year in the recent past.

What an absolute Cess pool the DDCA are, year in and year out - they deliver these diamonds of mediocrity.

and this is our capital!!!

its a miracle that inspite of the regular politics by the DDCA - Delhi and NCR region does manage to throw up world class guys at regular intervals

Delhi NCR surely deserves a better deal both - with a decent stadium and defo decent administration.
:mw1
 
Lol...Shubhmaan Gill opens his account.....

for toss wins...

first toss win in his 6th test....

am sure we've lost like 15 consec tosses in England including the two WTC finals...- that has to be some record....

Saazish anyone - taas ke kaayin mein chip hai ?:)
 
IND vs WI 2nd Test, Day 2 Report

India 318 for 2 (Jaiswal 173*, Sudharsan 87) vs West Indies

Yashasvi Jaiswal continued his meteoric rise as one of India’s finest young Test batters, notching his seventh century, while debutant B Sai Sudharsan impressed with a composed 87 as India dominated day one of the second Test against West Indies in Delhi. After captain Shubman Gill finally won a toss — his first in seven attempts — India closed on 318 for 2.

On a sluggish Feroz Shah Kotla pitch, West Indies’ bowlers were disciplined but largely ineffective. Despite conceding no extras throughout the day, their efforts lacked penetration, particularly in the middle session, when India piled on 126 runs without losing a wicket.

Jaiswal’s approach was a masterclass in controlled aggression. Watchful early on, he capitalised on loose deliveries before tightening his defence late in the day. By the time he reached 93, the bowlers had already fed him a mix of half-volleys and short deliveries, which he dispatched with precision. Remarkably, Jaiswal equalled Graeme Smith’s record for the most centuries by an opener under the age of 24, while only Sachin Tendulkar has scored more hundreds for India before turning 24. Five of Jaiswal’s seven tons have now gone past 150 — a feat bettered only by Don Bradman at the same age.

For Sudharsan, the innings was an ideal opportunity to stake his claim at No. 3. Coming in early after KL Rahul was undone by Jomel Warrican’s sharp turner, the 23-year-old built a steady 197-run partnership with Jaiswal. Calm, technically assured, and patient, Sudharsan rarely looked troubled until his dismissal for 87, trapped lbw by Warrican — only his third false shot in a 165-ball stay.

The morning saw West Indies begin with tidy seam bowling, conceding just 29 runs in the first 12 overs. Once India’s openers adjusted, the runs began to flow. Rahul looked set before a mistimed charge against Warrican saw him stumped for 38. Jaiswal, meanwhile, preferred to keep his strokes grounded, accelerating steadily to 40 by lunch.

The post-lunch session was a nightmare for the visitors. Jayden Seales and Roston Chase struggled with line and length, offering boundary balls almost every over. Sudharsan punished anything loose, reaching his fifty with a crisp drive, while Jaiswal’s fluency grew with every passing over.

Seales returned after tea with a more disciplined spell using reverse swing, but the pressure soon eased when spinners leaked easy singles. Against the run of play, Warrican finally found success with a delivery that turned sharply to trap Sudharsan.

From there, Jaiswal took charge once again, joined by captain Gill, who played a measured hand. The pair ensured no further setbacks, with Jaiswal finishing unbeaten on 173 off 253 balls. His late surge — 17 runs in the last two overs before stumps — capped off a near-perfect day for India.

The West Indies now face the daunting task of breaking India’s grip on a venue where they haven’t won a Test in 38 years.
 
It is not necessary. 87 is good enough. KL Rahul struggled for years . We persisted with him. Pujara averaged 20 or something last few years batting at 3.
And coolie and Rohit cost us the series vs nz 0-3
And they averaged 29 in the last 5 years
 
It is not necessary. 87 is good enough. KL Rahul struggled for years . We persisted with him. Pujara averaged 20 or something last few years batting at 3.
Once Pant comes back, I think it would be unfair to deny Jurel the batting slot currently occupied by Sudarshan. Jurel's First Class batting average is better and he's performed whenever called upon.

Sudarshan definitely looked better today but I'm still to be convinced he has the Test match mentality, concentration and hunger for big scores. His First Class average certainly doesn't bear it out.
 
Once Pant comes back, I think it would be unfair to deny Jurel the batting slot currently occupied by Sudarshan. Jurel's First Class batting average is better and he's performed whenever called upon.

Sudarshan definitely looked better today but I'm still to be convinced he has the Test match mentality, concentration and hunger for big scores. His First Class average certainly doesn't bear it out.
Jurel is not a no.3 batter. Not even pant can bat there. Check Gills stats at 3. Only an opener or no.3 can bat there. You can't mix and match slot people. Only guys like Eswaran, padikkal can be tried there
 
This is very boring test match, first time since so many years I don't enjoy a test match of team india.

I Hope jaiswal eye on world record. :kp
 
Jaiswal is looking good for a double-century. Maybe even a triple-century.

Windies's bowling attack is being very toothless.
 
These guys should play at rapid pace on day 2 & think of getting to 500+ in 40 overs or less & declare , anything over that is overkill ...
 
Jurel is not a no.3 batter. Not even pant can bat there. Check Gills stats at 3. Only an opener or no.3 can bat there. You can't mix and match slot people. Only guys like Eswaran, padikkal can be tried there
Easwaran was dropped without a single opportunity, even Padikkal who scored 30 odd in 2nd innings in India's victory at Perth last year was not given a fair chance at #3, why should a IPL ftb with a fc average of 35 get that opportunity. India should promote Reddy to bat at #3, Pant will bat #5 & Jurel keeps his spot at #7.
 
Jurel is not a no.3 batter. Not even pant can bat there. Check Gills stats at 3. Only an opener or no.3 can bat there. You can't mix and match slot people. Only guys like Eswaran, padikkal can be tried there
I have some reservations too but it's unfair to deny him the opportunity. It's not like he's a come down the track, hit over the top player or flashy outside the offstump. He's displayed a compact technique when he's played.

No point playing a 40 averaging player over him.
 
Easwaran was dropped without a single opportunity, even Padikkal who scored 30 odd in 2nd innings in India's victory at Perth last year was not given a fair chance at #3, why should a IPL ftb with a fc average of 35 get that opportunity. India should promote Reddy to bat at #3, Pant will bat #5 & Jurel keeps his spot at #7.
Sai is not an IPL ftb. He scored two fifties in SA in the ODIs when everyone struggled. He made a couple of 50s and a 100 while chasing 417 against Australia A. He is a first class player who got into IPL.not the other way around. Padikkal is technically very weak. Among these three sai seems to have higher ceiling. Almost all the experts agree on that. Just a couple of technical glitches like when he plays off the bads he gets cramped up.
 
I have some reservations too but it's unfair to deny him the opportunity. It's not like he's a come down the track, hit over the top player or flashy outside the offstump. He's displayed a compact technique when he's played.

No point playing a 40 averaging player over him.
Batting at 3 is a whole different cup of tea. He could be facing new ball in the first over of the match. Ball will be jagging around. So far Jurel has made runs only in India. Failed at perth. We should not slot people randomly. It will ruin their career. If he fails there he may permanently be eliminated
 
Well, we won't be seeing that Test Cricket Zinfabad thread popping up after this series.

Test is entertaining when good teams play.

Australia vs India = Box office
Australia vs South Africa = Box office
India vs England = Box office
Ashes = Box office

If one team is weak, it is obviously not entertaining. Then again, it is also applicable to ODI and T20.
 
Test is entertaining when good teams play.

Australia vs India = Box office
Australia vs South Africa = Box office
India vs England = Box office
Ashes = Box office

If one team is weak, it is obviously not entertaining. Then again, it is also applicable to ODI and T20.
close games are good viewing , need not necessarily be top 4 teams playing each other to provide that ...
 
Sai is not an IPL ftb. He scored two fifties in SA in the ODIs when everyone struggled. He made a couple of 50s and a 100 while chasing 417 against Australia A. He is a first class player who got into IPL.not the other way around. Padikkal is technically very weak. Among these three sai seems to have higher ceiling. Almost all the experts agree on that. Just a couple of technical glitches like when he plays off the bads he gets cramped up.
But somehow he doesn't convince me at #3. He should have been in the T20I team not the test team after the all those runs in IPL.
 
Test is entertaining when good teams play.

Australia vs India = Box office
Australia vs South Africa = Box office
India vs England = Box office
Ashes = Box office

If one team is weak, it is obviously not entertaining. Then again, it is also applicable to ODI and T20.
Also 9 time Asian Champions & undisputed World Champions India vs your favourite Sri Lanka in T20I format = Box Office
 
ANother inning defeat loading for windies... Oh boy, how bad they are in test cricket... Matching Pakistan, I guess.. Race to the bottom is on for both nations
 
But somehow he doesn't convince me at #3. He should have been in the T20I team not the test team after the all those runs in IPL.
Why. He had the best control percentage for a no.3 batsman for India in recent times. He plays with vertical bat with slightly on the backfoott. Guys ike him will be very hard to bowl to once he gets the confidence. Bowlers will end up bowling half vollies to such batsmen
 
Damn he was not out. Brainfade from on field umpire. Ball was not in the hand when bails were off. :kp
 
Also 9 time Asian Champions & undisputed World Champions India vs your favourite Sri Lanka in T20I format = Box Office
He still hasn’t answered me this

Pak apparently dominated India in 90s
But they lost every big game in LoI basically

And India had more Asia cup wins in big tournaments. Why is that?

Even in 80s India won benson and hedges cup etc
 
Why. He had the best control percentage for a no.3 batsman for India in recent times. He plays with vertical bat with slightly on the backfoott. Guys ike him will be very hard to bowl to once he gets the confidence. Bowlers will end up bowling half vollies to such batsmen
Don't think his backfoot game will work against better bowlers, he will be found out in South Africa series. Guy only averages 35 in fc.
 
Don't think his backfoot game will work against better bowlers, he will be found out in South Africa series. Guy only averages 35 in fc.

He did play against South Africa in South Africa.Nandre burger was rapid in his first two ODIs. He took out our top order with 3 for 30. Sai made 62.
 
His backfoot game or exactly what you need in OZ/SA
That backfoot game is probably the reason he's been picked despite a lot of evidence pointing to his not being ready. The Cricinfo article on him this morning said the last batter with a first class average below 40 picked to play for India was WV Raman in 1988 and that was when we were in desperate need of openers post Sunny.

Getting into the India Test batting line-up is one of the toughest tasks in the world...a bit like securing a Computer Engineering seat at IITB. Batters averaging 50+ languish for ages in Ranji and India A before breaking through. Our last great no.3 practically broke the door down with a mountain of runs in First Class to make the slot his own.

Sudarshan's selection feels like the selection committee has gone for flash rather than substance.
 
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