Indian cricket team’s new hurdle: Yo-Yo test

[JattMaula]

I'm in the view of your skill set is more important than your fitness.

Mine too. I just consider fitness an easily improvable skill.

 

[HateKiller]

Mine too. I just consider fitness an easily improvable skill.

Yes but fitness should already be at an improved level before an international game starts.

 

[Smbhayi]

Yes but fitness should already be at an improved level before an international game starts.

I believe if they practice more on their skill then automatically their match fitness also improve.

I just can't see what those push-ups (or similar like) can to do with cricket?

 

[CanadianG00se]

I believe if they practice more on their skill then automatically their match fitness also improve. [/]

I just can't see what those push-ups (or similar like) can to do with cricket?

Please tell me how much fitness has Ashwin improved by practising his bowling skills?

He is downright pathetic when it comes to fitness. You need way more than just ‘Practising skills’ to maintain fitness. You need to workout, follow balance diet, and have strict routine. Lot of Indians tend to overlook fitness thinking its ‘Ok’ to have belly for a sportsman. No wonder why we are abysmal when it comes to contact sport. We will continue to suck in every sport that requires phsyical demand bcause we are the laziest race on planet earth.

 

[Smbhayi]

Please tell me how much fitness has Ashwin improved by practising his bowling skills?

He is downright pathetic when it comes to fitness. You need way more than just ‘Practising skills’ to maintain fitness. You need to workout, follow balance diet, and have strict routine. Lot of Indians tend to overlook fitness thinking its ‘Ok’ to have belly for a sportsman. No wonder why we are abysmal when it comes to contact sport. We will continue to suck in every sport that requires phsyical demand bcause we are the laziest race on planet earth.

I said match fitness. Aswin plays cricket not contact sports. Can Ashwin last long five days? Yes! Can he able to bowl longer spells? Yes! Can he able to bat longer if requires? Yes!
he's generally a bad fielder and he wont improve his fielding no matter how much his fitness improved. for that he need to practice on it.

 

[CanadianG00se]

I said match fitness. Aswin plays cricket not contact sports. Can Ashwin last long five days? Yes! Can he able to bowl longer spells? Yes! Can he able to bat longer if requires? Yes!
he's generally a bad fielder and he wont improve his fielding no matter how much his fitness improved. for that he need to practice on it.

Can he also chase the ball and stop a boundary and save some runs? NO!

 

[giri26]

Can he also chase the ball and stop a boundary and save some runs? NO!

I think [MENTION=135839]Smbhayi[/MENTION] is taking about test cricket. Not everyone needs to stop boundary in test cricket, on the contrary Ashwin probably will find it difficult to make it back to ODI team. He still will be part of the test team as he offers a lot of balance to the Indian batting order.

 

[CanadianG00se]

I think [MENTION=135839]Smbhayi[/MENTION] is taking about test cricket. Not everyone needs to stop boundary in test cricket, on the contrary Ashwin probably will find it difficult to make it back to ODI team. He still will be part of the test team as he offers a lot of balance to the Indian batting order.

That is my point, we think its ok to giveaway certain boundary specially if its Ashwin. Forget chasing, Ashwin even let go some ball because he couldnt even bend down. How can u justify that for an international cricketer?

Im not expecting him to be Jhonty Rhodes, but at least can be decent enough to save runs where he doesnt require to dive or run like Usain Bolt. Secondly, Ashwin is only good in Asia and Windies, outside of that he wont even merit selection.

 

[giri26]

That is my point, we think its ok to giveaway certain boundary specially if its Ashwin. Forget chasing, Ashwin even let go some ball because he couldnt even bend down. How can u justify that for an international cricketer?

Im not expecting him to be Jhonty Rhodes, but at least can be decent enough to save runs where he doesnt require to dive or run like Usain Bolt. Secondly, Ashwin is only good in Asia and Windies, outside of that he wont even merit selection.

That's not very true of Ashwin's test form. The guy hardly played any test cricket except for Australia and has collective 3 games in England, SA and NZ. The current away tours will tell us how much he has improved. Too early to say he isn't good overseas.

 

[CanadianG00se]

That's not very true of Ashwin's test form. The guy hardly played any test cricket except for Australia and has collective 3 games in England, SA and NZ. The current away tours will tell us how much he has improved. Too early to say he isn't good overseas.

Im just saying he shouldnt be an automatic selection on overseas tours specially when we have K Yadav who doesnt rely on pitch.

 

[Dingolfy]

That is my point, we think its ok to giveaway certain boundary specially if its Ashwin. Forget chasing, Ashwin even let go some ball because he couldnt even bend down. How can u justify that for an international cricketer?

Im not expecting him to be Jhonty Rhodes, but at least can be decent enough to save runs where he doesnt require to dive or run like Usain Bolt. Secondly, Ashwin is only good in Asia and Windies, outside of that he wont even merit selection.

Kohli has dropped many slip catches in Tests.Do you want him to be dropped too? Ashwin though a bad outfielder , is one of better slip fielders in our team after Rahane.And in tests, I would value his spin and slip catching rather than his ground fielding.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Kohli has dropped many slip catches in Tests.Do you want him to be dropped too? Ashwin though a bad outfielder , is one of better slip fielders in our team after Rahane.And in tests, I would value his spin and slip catching rather than his ground fielding.

His bowling in overseas conditions will not win you matches like it does in India. He will be taken apart and will be rightly dropped.

 

[Dingolfy]

His bowling in overseas conditions will not win you matches like it does in India. He will be taken apart and will be rightly dropped.

Like somebody mentioned above the sample size is too small to judge that.Even Kumble didnt have much success overseas until his last Australia tour.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Like somebody mentioned above the sample size is too small to judge that.Even Kumble didnt have much success overseas until his last Australia tour.

So you want current Indian setup to carry him along until he comes good and in the process lose all the test matches? Back then we had no alternatives, but right now we have spinner(wrist) who is far more valueable on pitches that do not support spinners.
In India or Asian conditions, Ashwin is first man on the team list, but for overseas test he do not merit selection. Dhoni for his fault in captaincy, he knew Ashwin would be limited in overseas, which is why he always preferred Jadeja over him(not that Jaddu did anything sepcial). In my opinion, wrist spinners must be given preference as they are wicket taking options specially on flat pitches.

 

[giri26]

So you want current Indian setup to carry him along until he comes good and in the process lose all the test matches? Back then we had no alternatives, but right now we have spinner(wrist) who is far more valueable on pitches that do not support spinners.
In India or Asian conditions, Ashwin is first man on the team list, but for overseas test he do not merit selection. Dhoni for his fault in captaincy, he knew Ashwin would be limited in overseas, which is why he always preferred Jadeja over him(not that Jaddu did anything sepcial). In my opinion, wrist spinners must be given preference as they are wicket taking options specially on flat pitches.

Players need to be given ample opportunities to prove themselves. Just because we have Kuldeep Yadav does not mean we just drop Ashwin without giving him the first crack. If Ashwin fails in his current away tours, he can be dropped but again you just don't drop a guy who has 292 test wickets based on speculation. If you are bringing his ODI stats into the equation, there have been lots of good test bowlers who has struggled in the shorter formats.

Dhoni preferring Jadeja over him was based on just one failure. Jadeja did well in the following test so he was kept on until he failed as well. There was no method in Indian selection madness overseas. Ashwin was dropped when he failed in one test and Jadeja was dropped after he failed in multiple games after one 5 wicket haul.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Players need to be given ample opportunities to prove themselves. Just because we have Kuldeep Yadav does not mean we just drop Ashwin without giving him the first crack. If Ashwin fails in his current away tours, he can be dropped but again you just don't drop a guy who has 292 test wickets based on speculation. If you are bringing his ODI stats into the equation, there have been lots of good test bowlers who has struggled in the shorter formats.

Dhoni preferring Jadeja over him was based on just one failure. Jadeja did well in the following test so he was kept on until he failed as well. There was no method in Indian selection madness overseas. Ashwin was dropped when he failed in one test and Jadeja was dropped after he failed in multiple games after one 5 wicket haul.

Im not against Ashwin, all im saying historically Wrist spinners have been better options on pitches that is graveyard for spinners. Just because Ashwin isnt fully tested doesnt mean we should go with that option. If we are serious about Winning in SA/AUS then we should take bold moves even if it means trying out less experience Yadav instead of Ashwin.

 

[Dingolfy]

Im not against Ashwin, all im saying historically Wrist spinners have been better options on pitches that is graveyard for spinners. Just because Ashwin isnt fully tested doesnt mean we should go with that option. If we are serious about Winning in SA/AUS then we should take bold moves even if it means trying out less experience Yadav instead of Ashwin.

Yasir Shah's average in Australia is much higher than Ashwins and hence being a wrist spinner is not an automatic route to success.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Yasir Shah's average in Australia is much higher than Ashwins and hence being a wrist spinner is not an automatic route to success.

K Yadav made Aussie batsmen struggled on flat pitches when Ashwin and Jadeja were taken to cleaners in India. Y Shah is traditional leggie with no wrongun. K Yadav is different and Aussies have found it difficult to pick his variations.

 

[giri26]

K Yadav made Aussie batsmen struggled on flat pitches when Ashwin and Jadeja were taken to cleaners in India. Y Shah is traditional leggie with no wrongun. K Yadav is different and Aussies have found it difficult to pick his variations.

Still you cannot just pick a spinner based on a theory. No team will just drop their primary spinner thinking that wrist spinner is better. V Kohli did that in the last Australian tour and dropped Ashwin on the only wicket which aided spin and we all know what Karn Sharma did. What ever may be the theory, no way the Indian team is going to pick a rookie ahead of two bowlers who have 447 wickets combined at an average of under 25. Those are phenomenal numbers, whichever way you look at it. Ashwin and Jadeja will get the first crack ahead of Kuldeep where ever India plays, unless both of them fail horribly.

 

[Dingolfy]

K Yadav made Aussie batsmen struggled on flat pitches when Ashwin and Jadeja were taken to cleaners in India. Y Shah is traditional leggie with no wrongun. K Yadav is different and Aussies have found it difficult to pick his variations.

They played him better in fourth innings but succumbed to Ashwin. Even in SL,Ashwin had better stats than Kuldeep especially in fourth innings of the third test. And he is not the first spinner to have a googly in cricket and in this era of extensive video analysis, his wrong uns would be found out pretty faster.He is still a newbie and have plenty of things to learn before he can replace Ashwin as our frontline spinner.I believe he can replace Jadeja though.

 

[CanadianG00se]

They played him better in fourth innings but succumbed to Ashwin. Even in SL,Ashwin had better stats than Kuldeep especially in fourth innings of the third test. And he is not the first spinner to have a googly in cricket and in this era of extensive video analysis, his wrong uns would be found out pretty faster.He is still a newbie and have plenty of things to learn before he can replace Ashwin as our frontline spinner.I believe he can replace Jadeja though.

Spinners do come into play in 4th innings due to wear and tear of the pitch. However, on flat pitches they will be massacred. Well lets hope Ashwin or Kuldeep, whoever gets to play does the job for us.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Still you cannot just pick a spinner based on a theory. No team will just drop their primary spinner thinking that wrist spinner is better. V Kohli did that in the last Australian tour and dropped Ashwin on the only wicket which aided spin and we all know what Karn Sharma did. What ever may be the theory, no way the Indian team is going to pick a rookie ahead of two bowlers who have 447 wickets combined at an average of under 25. Those are phenomenal numbers, whichever way you look at it. Ashwin and Jadeja will get the first crack ahead of Kuldeep where ever India plays, unless both of them fail horribly.

No doubt Ashwin have legendary stats however he is also benefitted mostly playing in conditions that aids spinners. Anyways, lets hope for team sake that whoever gets to play shall good for us or else another phainty will be on the cards.

 

[giri26]

No doubt Ashwin have legendary stats however he is also benefitted mostly playing in conditions that aids spinners. Anyways, lets hope for team sake that whoever gets to play shall good for us or else another phainty will be on the cards.

In South Africa, Australia and England the pacers need to do majority of the work. The spinners are the support cast. Whoever we pick in the X1 will do well if our pace attack does well. If our pace attack leaks runs like the last round of overseas tours, even if we have Shane Warne in our line up, he will not be able to do much.

 

[sachin100]

Ashwin needs a miracle to prove his detractors wrong.

He is a fair weather bowler like Anderson but far inferior to him.

I will eat humble pie if he proves me wrong this away tours

 

[Smbhayi]

Can he also chase the ball and stop a boundary and save some runs? NO!

as someone said above Nehra passed test while Raina failed. but who's better fielder?
All I said to master a thing you need to practice on it.

 

[Abdullah719]

Rahul Dravid and India U-19 team management say no, no to Yo-Yo test for junior players

While the Indian cricket board wants to extend the Yo-Yo test to the U-19 team, who are touring Malaysia for the Asia Youth Cup next week, it’s learnt that the junior team’s management and coach Rahul Dravid have reservations about it. This has resulted in the Yo-Yo test not being made mandatory for junior cricketers.

“The Indian team trainer had thrown the idea of having Yo-Yo test for India under-19 team but Dravid made it clear that it should not be needed for junior cricket. At this age, players should improve their skills. Fitness is important but if he can score runs and take wickets, that should be the parameter of selecting a player,” source at the National Cricket Academy, Bangalore, told The Indian Express.

The Yo-Yo test, which is mandatory for senior players, requires players to pace themselves methodically — starting with a modest jog to the eventual gut-busting sprint — as they shuttle back and forth between two rows of cones kept 20 metres apart. Each run needs to be timed with the three beeps that are played in the background. These are the signals for start, turn and finish. With the timing between the beeps constantly decreasing, each subsequent 40m circuit requires more speed. Getting beaten twice by the beep means the end of the test. The final score is determined by the laps completed and the speed gathered.

Last month, before the start of the New Zealand series, it was decided that Yo-Yo test would form the basis for selection for the senior team. Among the players who reportedly missed out because of the new fitness parameter were old hands Suresh Raina and Yuvraj Singh. Interestingly, Ashish Nehra, 38, was included in the Indian team, a clear indicator that he had passed the test.

“The captain, coach and chief selector, along with the other members of the selection committee in consultation with the support staff (trainer and physio), have set the parameters. The fitness parameters set by the team management for athletes to be eligible for selection are non-negotiable,” Rahul Johri, the BCCI CEO, had told this newspaper.


India A to tour England in 2018

At a time when India travels to England next year to play a long tour, the BCCI has planned to send its India A team with the senior men’s team. The reason behind scheduling India A series in England has been, if any replacement is required, the board can send their bench players straight from England then sending them from India. “Next year when India Test series starts in England the India A team will travel to play for its A tour as well. Keeping in mind India’s hectic tour, which compiles of three T20’s and three ODI’s and five Test, the board wants to manage players’ work load well,” sources said.

http://indianexpress.com/article/sp...-no-to-yo-yo-test-for-junior-players-4925834/

 

[Abdullah719]

Team India's yo-yo test passing marks may increase: reports

Indian cricket team’s much-talked about fitness Test — Yo Yo Test — may get tougher in near future. According to reports, the passing marks — currently 16.1 — maybe pushed to 16.5 or 17, adding to the workload of Team India members. To fan the fire, Yuvraj Singh and Suresh Raina have flunked the test twice, before the latter cleared it recently.

According to Hindustan Times, a source revealed, “There are discussions going on as to whether the benchmark could go a touch higher, say 16.5, to increase the fitness standards further. There has to be a progression in every aspect and fitness is no different. However, nothing has been finalised.


Author’s take

For those who don’t know, former India coach Anil Kumble had made it mandatory for players to clear the fitness test in order to feature in the lineup. In recent times, many teams, including Pakistan, have stressed upon fitness to keep their players in good health amidst excessive cricket being played every calendar year.

Different teams have set different speed levels for their respective players to clear the test. While India have set it at 16.1, Pakistan have kept it at 17.4 and New Zealand at 20.1.

http://www.cricketcountry.com/news/team-indias-yo-yo-tests-passing-marks-may-increase-reports-674542

 

[hadi123]

So Rayudu has failed a fitness test and therefore won't be in the ODI squad against England

 

[MenInG]

Well this is the new reality. Show Fitness or stay out.

 

[cricketindiafan]

Good to see fitness rules being applied consistently. No better way to send a message to national aspirants and young players.

Terrible decision though to go back to Raina. He was dropped from the squad for non perfornance but is suddenly good enough again. Why not give Risabh Pant a go instead? What more does he need to do to get picked?

Kohli's lack of faith in younger batsmen has been perplexing. Will hurt us in the long run.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Good.Fitness needs to be taken seriously by all teams.You have to meet fitness criteria to keep your place in the team.

 

[TeymurBlake]

I agree fitness needs to be absolute taken seriously. The minimum needs to be achieved. Like Mickey said If you want to be in the team you must be able to meet the fitness criteria no matter how good with the bat or the bowl you perform.

 

[JattMaula]

Even Pakistan captain regularly clears 17. Why can't Rayudu and Samson?

 

[Shutdown Corner]

Imagine if Sehwag or Tendulkar were dropped early in their careers for failing a yo yo. Overkill for a sport like cricket imo. Fitness while important is still secondary to skill.

 

[Dingolfy]

Good to see fitness rules being applied consistently. No better way to send a message to national aspirants and young players.

Terrible decision though to go back to Raina. He was dropped from the squad for non perfornance but is suddenly good enough again. Why not give Risabh Pant a go instead? What more does he need to do to get picked?

Kohli's lack of faith in younger batsmen has been perplexing. Will hurt us in the long run.

Because Pant batted like a hack in every international opportunity he got.And Raina flayed SA pacemen in SA and was our MOS.And he is our perfect candidate for number 6 now.Hits hard, still fields like a gun and is a handy bowler.Pant will have his oppurtunity in the A team games but I dont see any future for him other than in T20.

 

[Dingolfy]

Imagine if Sehwag or Tendulkar were dropped early in their careers for failing a yo yo. Overkill for a sport like cricket imo. Fitness while important is still secondary to skill.

It is not the same game anymore.And yo-yo is an endurance test more than athletic test.And 16.5 is bare minimum for an international athlete.

 

[CadPakFan]

So Shafiq has better fitness than Hardik Pandya?

 

[Dingolfy]

So Shafiq has better fitness than Hardik Pandya?

Do you know both their numbers? 16.5 is the minimum to pass.

 

[CadPakFan]

Do you know both their numbers? 16.5 is the minimum to pass.

Shafiq got 21.1 and Pandya got 19

 

[Dingolfy]

Shafiq got 21.1 and Pandya got 19

Then he might have more endurance than Pandya.But then Ashwin also passed the test and Samson who is a livewire ,failed.So not accurately mapped to functional fitness on the field.

 

[MenInG]

Ireland and Afghanistan played their first-ever Test matches a month apart to take the number of Test-playing nations to a dozen. It is only natural to compare the performances of the two new entrants.

Ireland played their Test against Pakistan at home last month and Afghanistan played theirs in Bengaluru during the week gone by.

Soon after the one-off Test, the Indians got busy preparing for the tougher tours of Ireland and England in different climatic conditions. The much-touted Yo-Yo fitness test -- Anil Kumble`s one big contribution to Indian cricket during his short span as coach -- left two in-form players out of the senior and India A squads.

Ireland put up a terrific fight against Pakistan. Actually, it was Pakistan who had to fight back to win the Test by five wickets, whereas Afghanistan folded up in two days, bowled out twice in two sessions to lose by an innings.

It is still to be seen how Ireland will fare playing overseas outside their familiar English conditions just as Afghanistan will have to punch above their known strength outside the subcontinental conditions.

Come to think of it, Ireland made a big statement by beating Pakistan by three wickets in the 2007 World Cup. That paved the way for first professional contracts two years on, leading to the starting of a domestic competition in 2013.

The Irish went on to play in the 2011 and 2015 World Cups and also qualified for 2009, 2010, 2012 and 2014 World Twenty20 competitions. So they are far more experienced than the Afghans.

Historically, Ireland spent long years on cricket parks than the Afghans, thanks to their proximity to England and also playing most visiting international sides before or after their tours to England.

Afghanistan, on the other hand, played much of their cricket in the refugee colonies in Pakistan and on return home in the last couple of decades.

In the run up to their first Test in Bengaluru, Afghanistan played a Twenty20 series against Bangladesh in Dehradun, which they now consider their second home. They won all three matches to raise hopes of a much better performance than what they actually did in their first-ever Test.

By the stumps on the first day, Afghan bowlers did well to force India to bat right down to the last man on the second morning even if they had allowed the home team to amass 474 despite a middle-order collapse.

With a better cricket intelligence, they could have restricted India to a much lower total as all their five mainline bowlers were among the wickets, even if their highly-rated leg-spinner Rashid Khan disappointed, like Shane Warne in his first Test against India. Totals of 109 and 103 in the two innings clearly show that their batsmen have a long way to go at the Test level.

With not much to crow about the two-day Test win, the Indians were straightaway put through the Yo-Yo tests. When one looks at the test, it appears all too simple for anyone to clear. But not so easy as Mohammad Shami, Ambati Rayudu and Sanju Samson realized.

What is more intriguing and shocking is that both Rayudu and Samson were brilliant in the outfield and took some marvellous catches, unless the argument is that the two made simple catches look spectacular! They did not look all that sloppy even while batting even though both were victims of run-outs.

Rayudu, in particular, scored 602 runs for Chennai Super Kings in the Indian Premier League to force his way back into the India squad for the limited-overs tournaments and was replaced by Suresh Raina, who had himself failed the test twice a year and half ago. There is no confirmation whether Shami cleared the fitness regimen within a week after failing to miss the Afghanistan Test.

If fitness is as much an issue as batting and bowling, then why is Manish Pandey, the fittest of the players touching 18 when the required parameter is 16.1, not picked?

The Yo-Yo test is a variation of the good old beep test and it is developed as part of a series of endurance tests by Danish football physiologist Jens Bangsbo.

One of the various tests sees a player shuttling between two cones set 20 metres apart. He starts on a beep and has to get to the cone at the other end before the beep goes again before turning back to return to the starting cone beating the third beep.

Some experts feel the player failing the test should be given another chance at least a week later, instead of chucking him out summarily.

Ask the Indian stalwarts of yesteryears and they will say that every player in their time knew the amount of fitness he needed to perform at his best and they never believed in these fitness tests which are now applied universally.

But then Ravi Shastri of that vintage era and Virat Kohli are paranoid about Yo-Yo, the players are haunted by it, even if they don`t detest it.
http://zeenews.india.com/cricket/yo-yo-fitness-test-is-haunting-indian-cricketers-2117607.html

 

[Abdullah719]

Samson, Shami and Rayudu told about Yo Yo test only after team selection

The Yo Yo and Dexa tests have become the order of the day for India’s international cricketers. The Yo Yo consists of speed and recovery assessments conducted around plastic cones over specific distances and with variations, and the Dexa tests ascertain bone health.

Recently, on the basis of their low Yo Yo scores, batsman Sanju Samson was dropped from the India A team for the tour of England, fast bowler Mohammed Shami for the one-off Test against Afghanistan and batsman Ambati Rayudu in India's ODI squad for the tour of England.

The various Indian teams were selected on May 8 but Samson, Shami and Rayudu were told immediately that Yo Yo tests would be conducted in early and mid-June.

The tests were put into practice from India’s tour of Sri Lanka last year and initially, the first three who did not come up to the required levels of fitness were Suresh Raina, Yuvraj Singh and Washington Sundar. Subsequently, they managed to achieve the 16.1 score on a scale of 25 and Raina and Sundar have been picked for limited-overs matches.

“Anyone who does gym work every day would clear the 16.1 score. In Australia and New Zealand it’s a high of 19 and Pakistan has set a starting score of 17,’’ said a BCCI official.

Being dropped from the team would have been a bitter pill to swallow for Rayudu, who had a glorious run for Chennai Super Kings in the recently concluded IPL.

BCCI not informed
The decision to put the players selected for Indian teams (excluding under-19) was taken by the Indian team management last year. The National Cricket Academy (NCA) also came on board. But the BCCI is not in full comprehension of the two fitness-related tests. The chairman of the NCA Board, Niranjan Shah, said: “We don’t know what’s going on.’’

A BCCI senior official said “no comments’’ to a particular query on the two advanced tests conducted by the support staff of the Indian team. However, the official said that the BCCI members have not been communicated about the decision taken by the Indian team management and NCA.

Another BCCI official, well-versed with such matters, said, “These are policy matters that cannot be taken independent of the BCCI. No one is against the players being asked to reach a high standard of fitness. But it’s obligatory of the BCCI to tell its members about the Yo Yo tests before the start of the cricket season.

“The States will put in place a system for its Ranji Trophy teams and the cricketers will be better prepared. The Yo Yo test scores of all the players have to be displayed on the BCCI website.’’

A person who has understood the outcome of the Yo Yo and Dexa tests, and has closely watched it evolve in the last few months, believes that today’s international cricket is exacting and a player has to be in top fitness. It’s said that India’s fielding coach R.Sridhar, at 47, achieves a score of 16.

http://www.thehindu.com/sport/crick...only-after-team-selection/article24198824.ece

 

[Dingolfy]

I am a big admirer of Samson but 16.1 is the minimum expected to be an international athlete.This chalta-hai attitude has ruined us in sports since time immemorial.These guys are rich with IPL money and has access to personal trainers and BCCI's excellent infrastructure.Nothing should be stopping them from attaining a minimum 16.1.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Fitness is inportant and each and every player should look to meet the standards set to them by their boards.

 

[style_guru]

Grapevine has it that Tailunt Sharma had failed to clear the test last Sunday, so will take it again today. It's also being said that Rahane is kept on standby just in case Sharma fails to clear it in his second attempt. But the question is, were Rayadu & Samson provided similar second chances?

Anyways, Tailunt is too close to Shastri to be dropped, & brace yourselves to see him fail in 70% of matches, while he'll make a daddy hundred in one of the matches, & so his legend will keep growing.

 

[Sam99]

Grapevine has it that Tailunt Sharma had failed to clear the test last Sunday, so will take it again today. It's also being said that Rahane is kept on standby just in case Sharma fails to clear it in his second attempt. But the question is, were Rayadu & Samson provided similar second chances?

Anyways, Tailunt is too close to Shastri to be dropped, & brace yourselves to see him fail in 70% of matches, while he'll make a daddy hundred in one of the matches, & so his legend will keep growing.

Legends said he will make 300 and india will make 500 vs england in this odi series.

 

[squarecut]

I am a big admirer of Samson but 16.1 is the minimum expected to be an international athlete.This chalta-hai attitude has ruined us in sports since time immemorial.These guys are rich with IPL money and has access to personal trainers and BCCI's excellent infrastructure.Nothing should be stopping them from attaining a minimum 16.1.

I am not surprised that Samson and Rayudu have failed the YO Yo test. Their body language shows "chalta hai" attitude. That may have worked in the past but that attitude is unacceptable now.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Rohit has passed the yoyo test.

 

[Brodipet_baadshah]

Grapevine has it that Tailunt Sharma had failed to clear the test last Sunday, so will take it again today. It's also being said that Rahane is kept on standby just in case Sharma fails to clear it in his second attempt. But the question is, were Rayadu & Samson provided similar second chances?

Anyways, Tailunt is too close to Shastri to be dropped, & brace yourselves to see him fail in 70% of matches, while he'll make a daddy hundred in one of the matches, & so his legend will keep growing.

Rohit responded to these baseless allegations from media

Dear... it’s no ones business how & where I spend my time.I’m entitled to have time off as long as I follow protocol.Let’s debate some real news shall we & to a few channels,I had just 1 chance to clear my yo-yo that was today.Verification before reporting is always a good idea

— Rohit Sharma (@ImRo45) June 20, 2018

 

[BaankeJi]

Rohit responded to these baseless allegations from media

Dear... it’s no ones business how & where I spend my time.I’m entitled to have time off as long as I follow protocol.Let’s debate some real news shall we & to a few channels,I had just 1 chance to clear my yo-yo that was today.Verification before reporting is always a good idea

— Rohit Sharma (@ImRo45) June 20, 2018

Can't believe media reports. In era of social media, all sort of news - false or true- travels at lightning speed. Reacting or forwarding news items is full of risk.

 

[cricketindiafan]

Grapevine has it that Tailunt Sharma had failed to clear the test last Sunday, so will take it again today. It's also being said that Rahane is kept on standby just in case Sharma fails to clear it in his second attempt. But the question is, were Rayadu & Samson provided similar second chances?

Anyways, Tailunt is too close to Shastri to be dropped, & brace yourselves to see him fail in 70% of matches, while he'll make a daddy hundred in one of the matches, & so his legend will keep growing.

Have we been watching same Rohit Sharma? Maybe not.

Stats suggest in his last 60 ODIs, he has 12 100s and 14 50s, thats a 50 every 2nd inning!

Baffling how a guy who has done so well as an ODI opener for us gets so much hate. He should not play tests, there he's been a failure. But in ODIs, he must be the 2nd name going on team sheet.

 

[hadi123]

All the brouhaha over the Yo-Yo test for the Team India players falls flat if one were to look at the pass marks of other teams. The score prescribed by the Indian team management and the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) is, after all, very basic, the lowest among the top teams of world cricket. Even the Pakistan team, no great advertisement for fitness standards not long ago, has kept a very high bench mark.

Mirror has tried to find out the minimum marks of most teams and it turns out England and New Zealand have 19 as much as Australia had set for their players before discontinuing with it about four years ago. For the South African players, it is 18.5 and for the Sri Lankans, it is 17.4. For the Pakistanis too, it is 17.4.

“We’ve taken it to 17.4,” confirmed Mickey Arthur while talking to Mirror from Lahore. Since the South African took over the reins of the Pakistan team, he has been putting extreme emphasis on fitness, an exercise which had led to the dropping of Umar Akmal at one stage.

Confirmation was provided by the England team too with its spokesperson telling this paper that the minimum score on the Yo-Yo test for Joe Root & Co is 19. A spokesperson for the South Africa team refused to disclose the number stating that there are different qualifying scores for different players. “There is no standard pass mark. Each player is given/sets their own personal benchmark that they have to pass. It is definitely higher than 16 though,” the spokesperson said. This paper has information that it is 18.5.

Cricket Australia has discontinued with the Yo-Yo test some four years ago but prior to that, it wanted the players to log 19 marks in the test. Said Greg Chappell, who heads one of the best high performance centres in Brisbane, “We stopped using the Yo-Yo 4-5 years ago. It was not considered a reliable enough measure for what we wanted. We use the 2 kilometre time trial these days,” he said, adding that 19 was the minimum mark before the test was discontinued.

Quite contrary to that, the Team India management has fixed the minimalist benchmark for the test “so that the players have minimum standards of fitness.” Said a BCCI source in direct the knowledge of the test, “After scoring a century, the player has to be in a position to run three. How do we know that? The Yo-Yo score may be an indication to that. Currently, we have 16.1. At some stage, we may increase it to 16.3.” All four sections of Indian cricket – team management, selectors, India A team management and the BCCI management are apparently on the same page with regard to the minimum fitness requirements for the players.

Three players – Sanju Samson, Mohammad Shami and Ambati Rayudu --failed to clear the Yo-Yo, which basically is a 20-metre run which should be completed before a ‘Beat’ is played.

However, it is not that all the players are lacking in fitness. Virat Kohli has, of course, raised the bar in fitness to a new level while some youngsters have also clocked 19 in the Yo-Yo.

Meanwhile, Rohit Sharma cleared the Yo-Yo test in Bangalore yesterday. There was intense speculation over his low Yo-Yo marks, BCCI sources have told Mirror that the white ball teams opener has cleared the test and will be on flight to Ireland and England. The team leaves on June 23 from Delhi.

https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com...r-the-indian-players/articleshow/64676427.cms

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Have we been watching same Rohit Sharma? Maybe not.

Stats suggest in his last 60 ODIs, he has 12 100s and 14 50s, thats a 50 every 2nd inning!

Baffling how a guy who has done so well as an ODI opener for us gets so much hate. He should not play tests, there he's been a failure. But in ODIs, he must be the 2nd name going on team sheet.

True. He is an asset
When he gets going there is no one in the whole world who can compete with him.
He is an odi beast.

 

[cricketworm]

If the pitches will remain the way it's been expect another 200 from him.

 

[Mp812]

"You have a certain ability/skill, but if you're fit then that same ability gets enhanced," Shastri added, speaking about the importance of the Yo-Yo test. "And that's why we emphasize on this yo-yo thing. And whoever thinks it's a one-off, he's sadly mistaken. He can take a walk. The philosophy is simple. You pass, you play. You fail, you sit.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Who decided YoYo test is final measure of cricket fitness? Even the BCCI wants to know.

Bengaluru: The booming voice and the belligerence in the tone was unmistakeable.

“I think it’s a combination of both ability and fitness. If you are fit, you can enhance that ability. That is one thing that has been emphasised on while designing the YoYo fitness test. And it is here to stay. Whoever thinks it’s a one-off thing, he is sadly mistaken and that person can take a walk,” Ravi Shastri, the Indian cricket team’s coach, thundered before the team’s departure to England.

“The philosophy is simple. You pass the test, you play. You don’t, you sit. So this is not going to go anywhere. The captain leads from the front, the selectors, the management are on the same page,” he said.

While it is great news for Indian cricket that these sets of stakeholders are all on the same page, there exists a world outside the Indian dressing room, and in that space a healthy debate has raged surrounding the YoYo test – whether it ought to be the only way to measure cricket fitness, how it has been implemented and if there is need to take a more careful look at the entire process.

The latest entrant into the fray is Anirudh Chaudhry, treasurer of the BCCI, who sent an eight-page letter to the Committee of Administrators seeking clarifications. The key questions raised include:

* I keep reading about the ‘YoYo Test’ being a criterion for selection into the Indian Team. Is this correct? If so, who took this decision and when and what is the rationale for the same?

* What is the exact nature of relation between the head physio at the NCA and the physio of the Indian cricket team? Who is responsible and accountable between the two for injured players’ rehabilitation?

* In the absence of any communication to me regarding any such policy of a qualifying score in a YoYo test being a prerequisite for selection to the Indian team, I will go with the assumption that somehow the reports of this being true are correct. If it is not so, this part of my communication may kindly be ignored:

At which forum was the decision taken to have a minimum score on the YoYo test as a prerequisite for selection into a BCCI selected team?

Who all were present in the meeting that decided this?

Have minutes been recorded of the said meeting?

Most importantly, once this decision was taken, to whom was the same communicated? Was it communicated to all First Class players in India? Was it communicated to all List A players in India? Was it communicated to all State Cricket Associations to communicate to their players?

* As per my understanding, there are various parameters for optimum fitness. i.e. speed, strength endurance, flexibility, agility, explosive strength, reaction tests, aerobic fitness. Is it the case that we are testing only for aerobic fitness and neglecting the rest of the parameters?

* Was it discussed that in the case of a tour where a player suffers an injury, the selectors may be required to select a replacement in a hurry and it may not be possible to conduct YoYo tests of all players available for selection and who are also match fit? Was there a scope for exemptions to be made in extraneous circumstances?

* What happens if the best player of the team has a mild niggle in the knee but can play the Test match that starts in two days but because of the knee niggle, he is not in a position to or is not advised to take a YoYo test at all?

* Is the player required to wait for a period of six weeks before he is allowed to take another YoYo test by the organisation? If so, is there any rationale for this?

* Is every YoYo test conducted in a fair, transparent and objective manner? Is there any evidence that is maintained to demonstrate that in the case of each test, the distance between each cone was indeed 20 m and there has been no deviation therefrom? How is this ensured?

While Chaudhry’s line of questioning, not surprising given his background as a lawyer and his hands-on experience of running the Haryana Cricket Association, is by far the most exhaustive to emerge so far, others, who are experts in the field of cricket fitness have already spoken up.

“YoYo is one aspect of fitness testing and I can’t understand how it can be the only measure of a cricketer’s fitness, especially given that it was designed primarily for use in soccer,” said Ramji Srinivasan, a former trainer of the Indian team.

“Sprinting and agility are not rocket science for players at this level but the test has to be standardised. The indoor-outdoor temperature and the time of the drill (morning or noon) are crucial,” said Srinivasan. “Also, how has the number 16.1 been decided on? Why is that some kind of state secret? I’m sure those in the Indian set up know that the Australians and others have readings of nearly 19.”

Interestingly, Cricket Australia, which was the first to use the YoYo test, has now discontinued the practice. Instead Australia’s cricketers are tested in a combination of a timed 2 km run, sprints and strength work.

John Gloster, the Australian fitness expert who has also worked with the Indian team, raises a slightly different point.

“When you need to test for explosive speed, such as in Twenty20 cricket, YoYo may be a good way to go. But is it really the best way to judge a player’s suitability for longer forms of the game? I don’t think so,” said Gloster.

Gloster introduced GPS tracker in the Rajasthan Royals dressing-room this IPL. “We got accurate, real-time information on players’ workloads, the different demands on slow bowlers, fast bowlers, batsmen, fielders …that gives us actual data to work with. We found that helped us. Is there any one single way to determine fitness? Probably not.”

Even in the absence of these voices, there are questions about the YoYo test that must be asked.

If Mohammad Shami, who was in the Indian team in the last Test series (South Africa in January) it played, failed the YoYo test after the IPL, was it solely his responsibility? Did the Indian team’s support staff give him a regimen to follow that would help lift him to the 16.1-mark?

The case of Ambati Rayudu, who was selected before the YoYo test and then subsequently left out, was called a one-off by Saba Karim, the BCCI’s general manager of cricket operations. If that is indeed true, and tests were usually conducted well before selection, how would trainers know which players in India to test at any given point of time?

Sanju Samson’s failed YoYo test has denied him the opportunity to tour England with the India A team: Is the failure to reach 16.1 in the YoYo test so serious a transgression that it should cost him the opportunity to learn in English conditions and gain exposure that will help the Indian team if he is selected at the highest level in the future?

The bottom line is this: Should the YoYo test be deployed as a tool that helps players measure, maintain and manage their fitness levels, or as an instrument that is used to drop players?

https://theprint.in/sport/who-decided-yoyo-test-measure-cricket-fitness-bcci-wants-to-know/74221/

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Indian cricket seems to be divided over Yo-Yo test. While former cricketers including Sachin Tendulkar have said that it shouldn’t be the only criterion for judging the fitness, others including current India coach Ravi Shastri have backed it saying it’s here to stay.

Former India left-arm pacer Zaheer Khan has advocated for uniformity in applying fitness parameters for junior and senior cricketers. But he also backed the Yo-Yo test since the current parameter of 16.1 set by the Indian team management for clearing is quite low as when compared to other teams.

“What I know is that the parameter set by the current Indian team (16.1) is pretty low compared to the world standard,” he told PTI on Friday. “If a player is not even able to achieve that mark, then I believe there is some problem somewhere.”

In the recent past players of the likes of Ambati Rayudu, Mohammed Shami, Sanju Samson among others have lost their place in the national teams owing to their faliure to clear the Yo-Yo test. Legendary allrounder Kapil Dev had said that a cricketer should only be judged by his performance on the field. “A bowler can perhaps clear the Yo-Yo test easily than a batsman. But this isn’t the ultimate test to judge a player. It comes down to your performances on the field and cricketers should only be judged only on the basis of their on-field performances.” Kapil was quoted as saying by TOI.

Zaheer, though, has backed Virat Kohli and the Indian team management on the issue. “Look, for me any parameter is acceptable as long as it is uniformly applied. If the criteria is same for the top most and the junior most cricketer, I have no issues. Obviously, there is focus on skill but this Indian team wants to be a fit unit. Virat and the team management is trying to ensure that for the benefit of the team,” he said.

http://www.cricketcountry.com/news/indian-parameter-for-the-yo-yo-test-pretty-low-zaheer-khan-730118

 

[Abdullah719]

Yo-Yo test passing marks for Indian cricketers to be increased from 16.1 to 17? Here’s all you need to know about the fitness test

The much-talked-about Yo-Yo test is back in the news after Team India head coach Ravi Shastri along with his support staff have reportedly shown interest in increasing the minimum qualification mark to 17 from the existing level of 16.1. The move, set to be implemented before the South Africa tour, will be done to give utmost priority to the fitness levels of Indian cricketers.

So what exactly is the Yo-Yo Test?

This test is basically a variation of the Beep test which is a running aerobic fitness routine that Indian cricketers undertook in the past. This is a gruelling routine and has two sets of cones which are placed 20 metres apart. Once the beep is sounded, an athlete has to reach the marker on the other side by the time the next beep shrieks. He then has to turn around and rush back to mark from where he started the run.

The frequency of the beeps keeps on increasing with every round - and a player is considered to be successful in the test after they finish the run to the cone and back. There is a gap of about seven seconds between each trip.

The test starts with a player kicking off his jog at a speed of level 5, which consists of one shuttle. Subsequently, the next speed level, which is 9, also consists of one shuttle. The next speed level is 11 and this has two shuttles while level 12 has three and level 13 four. There are eight shuttles per level from 14 upwards.

In the existing form, level 23 is the highest speed level in a yo-yo test. It should be mentioned here that each shuttle covers a distance of 40 metres and hence, the total distance is an aggregate of distance covered at every speed level.

The player in the routine gets ten seconds to recover between two shuttles. Also, he will keep a first warning at any point when he fails to reach the first cone.

Cricket teams have different speed levels as qualifying marks. Currently, India have set 16:1 as the qualifying speed level, which means it is mandatory for their players to finish the first shuttle of speed level 16, which when translated to an accumulated distance of 1120 metres. Pakistan’s minimum level is now 17:4; West Indies are at 19, and New Zealand have the highest level which is set at 20:1.

Should Yo-Yo test be mandatory?

Fitness is paramount. However, this is not a case of one-size-fits-all, according to those who are not in favour of making this test compulsory. “It doesn’t take in account the cricketing ability. Also, one needs to be at a certain level of fitness to take part in the test. it can’t be the ultimate test of one’s sports ability,” said sports and exercise nutrition specialist Rishi Manuja.

How have the Indian cricketers fared?

Former India fast bowler Ashsis Nehra had given an insight into the performance of Indian cricketers in a Yo-Yo test when it was first made mandatory. “Team India has set a 16.1 mark, which is soon going to be 16.5 soon. The New Zealand cricket team has it at 18. So you have to run a lot”.

“All the players perform above than 16.1 mark as that is the qualifying mark. Hardik Pandya has done 19, I marked 18.5 ahead of the T20I series against England in January. Manish Pandey does 19,” Nehra said.

Yo-Yo in other sports

Yo-Yo made its way into Indian cricket in 2017 but it has been one of the most used fitness parameters for different sports around the globe. In football, hockey and rugby, the Yo-Yo test is a mandatory feature.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...itness-test/story-NkKwIlSpg4ychQfH4aRPhJ.html

 

[MenInG]

The two-kilometre time trial — set at eight minutes and 15 seconds for fast bowlers and 8:30 for batsmen, spinners and wicketkeepers — has become mandatory for India’s centrally-contracted cricketers. How does it compare with the Yo-Yo test, and what are the benefits of a time trial?

What is the 2k time trial?
On a standard athletics track, the distance is covered in five laps of 400 metres each. The timings can be measured with a stop-watch or an electronic clock. The 2k time trial is a speed-endurance test, according to Ramji Srinivasan, the 2011 World Cup-winning Indian team’s strength and conditioning coach. “It is actually a dreaded thing, you tell any athlete a time trial, and they will go ‘Oh dear!’”

How will it help cricketers?
Srinivasan gives the example of someone batting for hours in difficult conditions. “Time trial is going to make you fitter. For example, if you have to cover the last 100 metres in 20 seconds, you cannot stride, you have to sprint. Especially when your muscles are fatigued, you have to push. For example, a batsman is in the 90s, it is extremely hot and humid outside. The time trial will help in terms of when to push (and) when to sprint,” Srinivasan said.

“It especially helps in developing running mechanics, develop breathing patterns. If you have wrong running mechanics, you are basically wasting loads of energy. You understand your heart rate and complete body better (through the time trial).”

Cricketers will be taking their heart level to its near-maximum and stabilising it.

“So as you get fitter, your resting heart rate will come down. The resting heart rate for a top elite athlete like Roger Federer will be in the 30s or 40s. For an average person, it will be in the 70s to 90s. The fitter the athlete, lower the resting heart rate. For example, if you are getting tired in 10 minutes, they will just get warmed up in 10 minutes,” Srinivasan says.

What will it reveal about fitness levels?
Hiding injuries won’t be possible, says Heath Matthews, a sports physiotherapist who works with Olympic-level athletes.

“Running within a specific time tells you a lot about the cardio-vascular system, a lot about injuries or ailments that they are carrying because if you have got pain, it is very difficult to hide that pain for eight minutes continuously and also perform at a high level. It is a good screening test in terms of muscular and skeletal fitness as well as cardio-vascular,” Matthews, the head of sports science and medicine at HN Reliance Foundation Hospital in Mumbai, says.

If an athlete meets the standard set for the time trial, he or she can be termed ‘fit’. “You may not know the minute details about movement in the lower back or strength of the knee but you know, broadly speaking, that an athlete is ‘okay’ because he/she is sustaining high-speed running for a large amount of time.”

Another benefit of the time trial is that it will help to redraw the fitness schedule of a cricketer, if needed. “Quantifiable data (on) whether a particular fitness schedule is working for you or not. If players are injured when running, you can infer various things from a time trial,” Ramji says.

How does 2k in 8:30 compare to world-class track-and-field athletes?
The men’s world record for the 2,000 metres is four minutes and 44.79 seconds, set by Morocco’s Hicham El Guerrouj in 1999. For women, the corresponding timing is 5:23.75 set by Genzebe Dibaba of Ethiopia in 2017.

For the average Joe, it takes about 10 to 12 minutes to walk a kilometre, so a brisk walker can complete 2k in about 18 minutes. Elite athletes, who are into running, take about six minutes to complete the two-kilometre time trial, and someone who runs regularly can do it in about 14 minutes. Srinivasan believes 8:30 or 8:15 is a good base to start for the Indian cricketers.

Are other teams using the time-trial test?
Ahead of the 2015 World Cup, The Sydney Morning Herald reported Michael Clarke’s time for the 2k time trial was cut by 40 to 50 seconds because he was in a race against time following a hamstring injury.

England all-rounder Ben Stokes ran a sub-seven-minute trial ahead of the 2019 Ashes. Stokes was going at 17 kilometres an hour, according to England’s strength and conditioning coach Phil Scott’s column in the Daily Mail.

According to Srinivasan, Sri Lanka, South Africa, and New Zealand also put cricketers through the time-trial test.

Will Indian cricketers have to train differently to meet target times?
“They will have to hit the road running,” Srinivasan says. “You have a double whammy of developing speed-endurance as well as maximum aerobic speed. They have to think like a 1,500-metre or 3,000-metre runner. They have to train like middle-distance runners. Every session needs to be target-oriented. You cannot just take two or three minutes to run a lap and then expect to improve on your speed-endurance.”

Cricketers will have to do a lot more interval training; short intense runs, followed by brief periods of recovery, followed again by high-intensity runs. The mechanics of running on a treadmill is very different from that of running outdoors or on a track, where cricketers will have to do the time trial, Ramji says.

How is the time trial different from a Yo-Yo test?
In the Yo-Yo test, two cones are placed 20 metres apart. At the first beep, the athlete starts and must reach the cone at the other end before the second beep, and then turn and run back to cross the starting point before the third beep.

As the Yo-Yo test level gets tougher, the frequency of the beeps increases and the number of shuttles (up and down runs) also goes up before a player gets a short break. A player gets a ‘warning’ if he or she fails to cross a cone before a beep within the stipulated time. Three warnings during a test marks the end.

Yo-Yo tests have been used in football for ages. The BCCI made clearing the Yo-Yo test mandatory for Indian cricketers in 2016. “Yo-Yo has a lot of acceleration and deceleration and rapid change of direction. Yo-Yo test is probably a far more sport-specific test for cricket, but in recent years there seems to be a preference amongst certain sports scientists to be testing this 2-kilometre time trial with elite-level cricketers,” Matthews says.

Can you ‘game’ the time trial?
Both Matthews and Srinivasan believe there is scope to ‘cheat’ in the Yo-Yo test, but not in the time trial.

“In Yo-Yo, you can cut corners here and there, instead of 20 metres you can do 19.5 metres and it will accumulate over 100 metres at the end of a session. Here nobody can favour anybody. You just need a stopwatch or an electronic timer. It is there for everyone to see. There are lot of ways to skin a cat in Yo-Yo,” Srinivasan says.

Matthews says the Yo-Yo test is “complicated” and needs “too many tools”, which means small gains could be made without being noticed. “Like a person taking the Yo-Yo test may not always cross the line fully.”

https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/bcci-time-trial-fitness-cricket-7158949/

 

[Bhaijaan]

The fitness criteria these days is ridiculous.

 

[Sir Alex]

The fitness criteria these days is ridiculous.

Not really. These guys are getting paid crores and the least they could focus on is taking care of themselves.

I cannot forgive Pant for the carelessness he showed during Covid times resulting him looking so unfit when IPL came. He could not time anything and lost his form completely. Good thing is he worked on this and was OK by the time they toured Australia.

Rohit Sharma also had a few problems and generally looked unfit. He takes catches but thats it.

 

[Esfahani]

[MENTION=65183]freelance_cricketer[/MENTION]

Considering cricket isn’t athletically demanding. You are absolutely right.

 

[JattMaula]

Not really. These guys are getting paid crores and the least they could focus on is taking care of themselves.

I cannot forgive Pant for the carelessness he showed during Covid times resulting him looking so unfit when IPL came. He could not time anything and lost his form completely. Good thing is he worked on this and was OK by the time they toured Australia.

Rohit Sharma also had a few problems and generally looked unfit. He takes catches but thats it.

I think Pant desperately needed a mental break and he got one during covid months. I read that he went to live in Raina's home for extended period. Bhabiji probably spoiled the kid and he looks like a person incapable of saying no to food.

 

[Saurav]

[MENTION=65183]freelance_cricketer[/MENTION]

Considering cricket isn’t athletically demanding. You are absolutely right.

It isn't?Fielding is a big part of cricket these days.As is running between the wickets

 

[someone21]

I doubt this YoYo test is applied fairly to all Indian players. Like of Pujara, Ashwin, Rohit, Pant don't fit...

 

[Indiafan]

I doubt this YoYo test is applied fairly to all Indian players. Like of Pujara, Ashwin, Rohit, Pant don't fit...

Pant is pretty fit, is a natural gymnast who can still do acrobatics and runs really fast between the wickets. Bo idea where this Pant perception is coming from

 

[Indiafan]

The fitness criteria these days is ridiculous.

if most players can pass it, how is it ridiculous? I would say it's ridiculous if most players were failing

 

[Indiafan]

I doubt this YoYo test is applied fairly to all Indian players. Like of Pujara, Ashwin, Rohit, Pant don't fit...

Also you missed MIGs update, indian team is replacing the YoYo test with the 2 kilometer trial which is way more stringent and difficult

 

[Bhaijaan]

if most players can pass it, how is it ridiculous? I would say it's ridiculous if most players were failing

Would Big Inzie pass these tests?

Would you drop Big Inzie because of these tests?

 

[JaDed]

[MENTION=65183]freelance_cricketer[/MENTION]

Considering cricket isn’t athletically demanding. You are absolutely right.

LOI cricket esp ODIs where running between the wickets from 10-40 overs and fielding saving 2s ,3s matter a lot it is

 

[Esfahani]

LOI cricket esp ODIs where running between the wickets from 10-40 overs and fielding saving 2s ,3s matter a lot it is

so what? running thru wickets is just running its not about lifting 100 pound bench press and doing 4 hour marathons

 

[JaDed]

so what? running thru wickets is just running its not about lifting 100 pound bench press and doing 4 hour marathons

The new training test . thats what it is .esp for batsmen that play 30-40 overs to be able to run quickly at 5th over mark and at the 40th over one as well.

 

[Esfahani]

The new training test . thats what it is .esp for batsmen that play 30-40 overs to be able to run quickly at 5th over mark and at the 40th over one as well.

doesn't sound bad

 

[Sir Alex]

The purpose of the tests are to find our if any players are carrying any injuries which they might / might not be aware of. I think this step was taken by BCCI in the wake of so many injuries during the Aus tour.

What the series win in Aus has shown is that no player is indisposable given the talent bench in India and players need to be at their absolute best to play for India. It is a welcome message.