Indian team going forward

[troodon]

I hope all Indian fans are doing well after the drubbing we received yesterday. It was kind of unexpected after the dominance India showed over Pak in the past few years. For a change we were under the pump and got destroyed badly.

I have had lots of discussions with friends and at office and eveyrone had their opinions who should be dropped and who should be in the team. Some even suggested that Rohit should be dropped as he is too slow for ODI's and sucks the life out of the batting more often than not.

So to all Indian fans, what do you think is the ideal team going forward. I personally feel that its time for Yuvi and MSD to hang their boots. One is inconsistent and slow in the field. The other is a shell of his former self with the bat.

Gatham Gathaha (Past is past).

Below is my team going in to the future.

Dhawan (Good opener)
Rohit (Good opener)
Kohli (Backbone of the team)
Jadhav/Samson/Pandey (Acceleration)
Pant WK (Demolition)
Hardik Pandya(Demolition with bat and 5th bowler)
Krunal (Demolition with bat and 5th bowler)
Kuldeep (Mystery Spinner and a decent bat)
BK
Bumrah
Shami/Yadav

The above team, I do not see any weakness. All bases are covered. I am even tempted to promote Pant to open like QDK and shun Rohit (too inconsistent) and include Pandey/Iyer.

This WI tour would have a wonder chance to try out some youngsters. As usual, BCCI selects some oldies and ineffective LOI players again

Post your views.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Rahul should replace Rohit.

 

[Pete Rose]

I think most of the team picks itself. Only two questions for me:
- how much longer do dhoni and yuvi want to play?
- what's the deal with ashwin in odi's

 

[Cricket-Pundit]

This should be our 15
Dhawan
Rahul
Kohli
Rohit
Pant/Samson
Hardik
Krunal/Jadeja
Kuldeep/Chahal
Bhuvi
Umesh/Shami
Bumrah

 

[Crafty_Indian]

I feel that we must start grooming some good middle order batsmen who can soak the pressure coming in at those positions and situations a bit in Dhoni's mould. This is high time we start grooming players before the next world Cup. Otherwise we have a world class top order and will do fine most times.

 

[Slog]

I keep hearing of some uncapped players performing in Ipl but they never seem to get a cap

For eg why wasn't Manish Pandey a starter ahead of Jadhav?

 

[Crafty_Indian]

I keep hearing of some uncapped players performing in Ipl but they never seem to get a cap

For eg why wasn't Manish Pandey a starter ahead of Jadhav?

Tbf Jadhav was actually playing pretty well in the limited opportunities he was presented with. Just sad that he couldn't keep his composure during his hour of reckoning. Regarding Manish after his odi century in the final game in Australia he has looked completely out of sorts and depth. Moreover he is quite unorthodox and gets exposed against good bowling coz he has quite a closed stance while batting and he also doesn't seem to have a good temperament required to make it or survive in the team. Sad really. Looked a good prospect but failed to deceive.

 

[zyrus]

Your whole team was fine. Only Jadav, Ashwin and Jadega didnt seemed appropriate for single XI. You guys needed fast men instead. Rahane could have replaced Jadav.

 

[Mp812]

I hope all Indian fans are doing well after the drubbing we received yesterday. It was kind of unexpected after the dominance India showed over Pak in the past few years. For a change we were under the pump and got destroyed badly.

I have had lots of discussions with friends and at office and eveyrone had their opinions who should be dropped and who should be in the team. Some even suggested that Rohit should be dropped as he is too slow for ODI's and sucks the life out of the batting more often than not.

So to all Indian fans, what do you think is the ideal team going forward. I personally feel that its time for Yuvi and MSD to hang their boots. One is inconsistent and slow in the field. The other is a shell of his former self with the bat.

Gatham Gathaha (Past is past).

Below is my team going in to the future.

Dhawan (Good opener)
Rohit (Good opener)
Kohli (Backbone of the team)
Jadhav/Samson/Pandey (Acceleration)
Pant WK (Demolition)
Hardik Pandya(Demolition with bat and 5th bowler)
Krunal (Demolition with bat and 5th bowler)
Kuldeep (Mystery Spinner and a decent bat)
BK
Bumrah
Shami/Yadav

The above team, I do not see any weakness. All bases are covered. I am even tempted to promote Pant to open like QDK and shun Rohit (too inconsistent) and include Pandey/Iyer.

This WI tour would have a wonder chance to try out some youngsters. As usual, BCCI selects some oldies and ineffective LOI players again

Post your views.

I agree pant and krunal and manish pandey should be in team

 

[Slog]

I also think Dhoni needs to go

Enough time till 2019 to settle on a new wk

Clearly it's hard having Kohli be fully authoratative with Dhoni's presence in t

 

[zyrus]

But most importantly, you guys need to find a better captain. Kohli is clearly too self-centered for this. Its harming his skills too. There must be some other guy who's been winning in local games, select him instead.

 

[zyrus]

I also think Dhoni needs to go

Enough time till 2019 to settle on a new wk

Clearly it's hard having Kohli be fully authoratative with Dhoni's presence in t

Kohli clearly did major mistakes which Dhoni never did in his entire captaincy. Team selection, bowler and field selection, bowling plan, all was flawed. Dhoni never let team lose 5 wickets around 50. He would have known that all we need to do is to play 50 overs and we'll win. It was Kohlish short-temprament which led to collapse.

 

[Mp812]

Time for us Indians to think young blood after this big loss and if Kohli and selctors are serious about future, they will listen to me ) and selct this team for ODI/T20 only.

Rohit
Shikar / KL Rahul ( reserve opener)
Kohli
Manish Pandey
Risabh pant / Reserve wktkepper Samson
Hardik pandya
Krunal pandya (Jadeja only for tests)
Bumrah
Shami
Kuldeep Yadav ( or some other spinner)
Bhuvi

 

[LastManstanding]

I keep hearing of some uncapped players performing in Ipl but they never seem to get a cap

For eg why wasn't Manish Pandey a starter ahead of Jadhav?

Pandey was injured and Dinesh Kartik was sent his replacement. Jadhav is preferred over Pandey because of form's hitting ability. Pandey is more classical batsman although much Superior fielder than Jadhav. Yuvi has got Kohl's backing so there was always going to be tussle between Jadhav and Pandey for the last spot.

 

[Khwaja]

Pak will run through this Indian team for 120..

 

[Shaik]

This should be the 11

Shikhar
Rahul
Kohli
Rahane/ Pandey
Pant
H Pandya
K Pandya
Kuldeep Yadav
Bhubaneswar
Shami
Bumrah

Pandya brothers to be the 5th bowler.

 

[FlickedOffHips]

If the teams on Sunday played 10 times I'm convinced India would win 7/10. On the day we were outplayed however and that defeat is a good chance to reflect.
It's interesting no one has included Ashwin in the lineup. I also think Ashwin has to go unless he bowls to try and take wickets, Very simple. I think Yuvraj is not at the level required to command a place in India's batting anymore and this should be the end for him. He'll be 37 by WC '19, which is too old. I wouldn't push Mahi out because of his keeping and field presence, but if he decides to go I wouldn't be surprised. Dhoni himself was ruthless with getting rid of older players and one thing he is is a man of integrity. He'll turn 36 in a couple of weeks and I'm expecting a retirement call after the Windies tour. We all know what Jadhav's upside is- guy is an absolute MONSTER on his day, has also been clutch for India since his inclusion. Didn't have a great CT but it wasn't too bad either. I would stick with him and keep him in the mix because he's a big match player.

Those are my three main changes. I also think one of Yadav/Shami needs to be in the team.

 

[Thomaskutty]

Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli
Rahul
Manish
Hardik
Pant
Jadeja/Krunal/Kuldeep
Shami
Bhuvi
Bumrah

A solid team that I think should have 2 years before the 2019 WC.

 

[zayn]

If the teams on Sunday played 10 times I'm convinced India would win 7/10. On the day we were outplayed however and that defeat is a good chance to reflect.
It's interesting no one has included Ashwin in the lineup. I also think Ashwin has to go unless he bowls to try and take wickets, Very simple. I think Yuvraj is not at the level required to command a place in India's batting anymore and this should be the end for him. He'll be 37 by WC '19, which is too old. I wouldn't push Mahi out because of his keeping and field presence, but if he decides to go I wouldn't be surprised. Dhoni himself was ruthless with getting rid of older players and one thing he is is a man of integrity. He'll turn 36 in a couple of weeks and I'm expecting a retirement call after the Windies tour. We all know what Jadhav's upside is- guy is an absolute MONSTER on his day, has also been clutch for India since his inclusion. Didn't have a great CT but it wasn't too bad either. I would stick with him and keep him in the mix because he's a big match player.

Those are my three main changes. I also think one of Yadav/Shami needs to be in the team.

That team would not win 7/10 times. I'd agree if it was a closer game, but it was absolutely drubbing in every sense of the word. Team selection was wrong and too much deadwood.

 

[Vayuu]

Pant
Rahul
Virat
Iyer
Pandey /sarfaraz
Samson
Hardik
Krunal
Kuldeep
Bhuvi
Shami
Bumrah
Reserves:vijay shankar, Deepak hooda, Rahul tripathi, Washington sundar, nathu singh, shardul thakur, ankit rajput, Pawan negi

 

[SandyB]

I hope all Indian fans are doing well after the drubbing we received yesterday. It was kind of unexpected after the dominance India showed over Pak in the past few years. For a change we were under the pump and got destroyed badly.

I have had lots of discussions with friends and at office and eveyrone had their opinions who should be dropped and who should be in the team. Some even suggested that Rohit should be dropped as he is too slow for ODI's and sucks the life out of the batting more often than not.

So to all Indian fans, what do you think is the ideal team going forward. I personally feel that its time for Yuvi and MSD to hang their boots. One is inconsistent and slow in the field. The other is a shell of his former self with the bat.

Gatham Gathaha (Past is past).

Below is my team going in to the future.

Dhawan (Good opener)
Rohit (Good opener)
Kohli (Backbone of the team)
Jadhav/Samson/Pandey (Acceleration)
Pant WK (Demolition)
Hardik Pandya(Demolition with bat and 5th bowler)
Krunal (Demolition with bat and 5th bowler)
Kuldeep (Mystery Spinner and a decent bat)
BK
Bumrah
Shami/Yadav

The above team, I do not see any weakness. All bases are covered. I am even tempted to promote Pant to open like QDK and shun Rohit (too inconsistent) and include Pandey/Iyer.

This WI tour would have a wonder chance to try out some youngsters. As usual, BCCI selects some oldies and ineffective LOI players again

Post your views.

Pretty sensible list ! [MENTION=141520]troodon[/MENTION]

But I'd prefer the opening slots to be rotated between Dhawan , Sharma, KL and Pant to keep the present openers honest. With Pant up top, you can try another middle order bat down at 4 or 5 like Samson or Shreyas or Manish.

Jadeja needs to fight for his place with Krunal and unless the pitches are super spinning Ash Cant play .

Kuldeep's development must be top priority.

More fast bowlers are needed since at a time we seem to only have 2 of them fit to go !

 

[Aman]

Dhoni, Yuvraj, Jadeja and Ashwin need to go.

 

[arehaan]

This is classic knee jerk reaction. One defeat and knives are out. 2 weeks back the same Yuvraj simply murdered Pak attack and played a big role in Indias victory. The same Dhoni who was barely required to hold the bat during the group games due to the prolific form of top order should now be thrown out. A guy who has been a great server of Indian Cricket for last 15 -20 year. Cant believe everything just gets overshadowed.

Its not like India lost in group stages or semi final. They still ended up as runners up which is surely not a bad return.

 

[JaDed]

I keep hearing of some uncapped players performing in Ipl but they never seem to get a cap

For eg why wasn't Manish Pandey a starter ahead of Jadhav?

He along with Rahul were injured,Dinesh Karthik was Manish's replacement.

 

[JaDed]

Why would you select Rohit?A known bottler in important matches, ICT rather take Rahul and work on him.
We need Pant/Samson/Iyer all somewhere in the line.

The only thing that bothers me is captaincy of Kohli,robotic works well for tests and not for LOI,hopefully he proves me wrong.

 

[Aman]

Why would you select Rohit?A known bottler in important matches, ICT rather take Rahul and work on him.
We need Pant/Samson/Iyer all somewhere in the line.

The only thing that bothers me is captaincy of Kohli,robotic works well for tests and not for LOI,hopefully he proves me wrong.

Bring in Rahane to lead the side and open?

 

[JaDed]

Bring in Rahane to lead the side and open?

That drastic change will not happen,so waste of a slot for Rahane,till 2019 its going to be Kohli as captain.

 

[JaDed]

This is classic knee jerk reaction. One defeat and knives are out. 2 weeks back the same Yuvraj simply murdered Pak attack and played a big role in Indias victory. The same Dhoni who was barely required to hold the bat during the group games due to the prolific form of top order should now be thrown out. A guy who has been a great server of Indian Cricket for last 15 -20 year. Cant believe everything just gets overshadowed.

Its not like India lost in group stages or semi final. They still ended up as runners up which is surely not a bad return.

IIRC we lost to a #7 ranked team twice in the tournament first Lanka and then Pak ,surely that mean it was pretty bad,Saffers are always expected to lose their KO matches so not a big deal and other was BD they don't inspire confidence as a team either.

 

[Aman]

That drastic change will not happen,so waste of a slot for Rahane,till 2019 its going to be Kohli as captain.

Kohli isn't fit to lead and if the team gets on top of him he struggles, as shown in the CT Final. He was shook after Pakistan's onslaught in the first innings.

 

[Stumper]

I expect Dhoni to retire from ODI's as well, He is a great servant of India throughout the years, but his batting skills are diminishing day by day. There would be two spots which we should look to replace one of Yuvi & other Dhoni.

 

[Titan24]

Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli
Rahul
Manish
Hardik
Pant
Jadeja/Krunal/Kuldeep
Shami
Bhuvi
Bumrah

A solid team that I think should have 2 years before the 2019 WC.

This seems like a pretty good team to me with batting depth. In the current era of cricket even at number 8 you need an all rounder as only bolwer in that position will weaken the batting.

 

[JaDed]

Kohli isn't fit to lead and if the team gets on top of him he struggles, as shown in the CT Final. He was shook after Pakistan's onslaught in the first innings.

I agree but unless he steps down himself BCCI wouldn't say anything to him till 2019.

Also for first time he will be facing the backlash of fans something he never received in RCB ,let's see how he deals with that,easy to be loved but can he take the hate of his own fans?

 

[SandyB]

I agree but unless he steps down himself BCCI wouldn't say anything to him till 2019.

Also for first time he will be facing the backlash of fans something he never received in RCB ,let's see how he deals with that,easy to be loved but can he take the hate of his own fans?

Look at what Ganguly had to face post the Match fixing saga in 2001. Kohli's job is far easier.

He has unanimous support of his team though, which is evident from the Kohli-Kumble issue. But replacing him may farcture the teams morale. I don't want him replaced in ODI's , only T20's will do.

 

[cr7great]

Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli
Rahul
Manish
Hardik
Pant
Jadeja/Krunal/Kuldeep
Shami
Bhuvi
Bumrah

A solid team that I think should have 2 years before the 2019 WC.

perfect team

 

[JaDed]

Look at what Ganguly had to face post the Match fixing saga in 2001. Kohli's job is far easier.

He has unanimous support of his team though, which is evident from the Kohli-Kumble issue. But replacing him may farcture the teams morale. I don't want him replaced in ODI's , only T20's will do.

Replaced as a captain? Don't think he will be ,and least bothered about T20 ,the world cup is far off, wouldn't matter even if we chose one year before the cup.

Kohli's job is Def easier,good domestic talent,less controversies but doesn't mean it's easy to take fans backlash,India is not RCB fan following.

 

[proud_pakistani]

The only people I could consider changing are Jadhav and Jadeja. That also is just a consideration. These guys dominated the CT barring 2 games so I can't really see the point in this thread and people considering so many changes.

I will say though they need a better new ball bowler than Bumrah. He's good with the old ball but don't expect him to take wickets first up. Umesh or Shami much better options with the new ball.