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Indian University Expels Kashmiris for Celebrating Pak Win [sedition charges dropped]

justarslan said:
And Indians on PP say South Africa/Australia are their new rival and they do not care about Pakistan match but ground reality is exact opposite.
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If they say that that means they are clearly lying....simple as that
 
The Plot Thickens:67 Kashmiri Students are Now Booked for Sedition

justarslan said:
And Indians on PP say South Africa/Australia are their new rival and they do not care about Pakistan match but ground reality is exact opposite.
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Indians were saying that these asiancups and all hold no importance for fans and this defeat is nothing and that six by miandad in Sharjah is different but this shows something totally opposite.
 
Cochin_wala said:
Believe me, Sanghparivar supporters are a good number in north Indian states and they may win this Loksabha election. and they believe Modi is a ointment for all the burns and cracks they have. Modi bhakths in Indian/Pak BBS/forums are a known phenomenon. Modi is just a random face of Sanghparivar. saffronists wants to make India a Iran or Saudia for Hindus. the 22-25 crore minorities are going to suffer. Educated Hindus or uneducated, they are simply supporting Sanghparivar agenda of Hindu nation now. their logic is "Muslims have n number of countries, Christians have n number of countries and we Hindus don't have a country for us..Hindustan it is". after Gujarat success of Modi, Hindu rashtra demand has increased multi fold. secular nature of Hinduism is a myth now, atleast in northern India. most of the Sanghies on internet are just fake Atheists-Tolerance preachers these days as Hindu society is now more and more Saffronized. laws are framed for reflecting Hindutva in states like Gujarat- eg. ban against cow slaughter.
Bhakt means devotee/worshipper.

Personally, I feel this region of south Asia is facing the problem of "too much religion". Islamic extremism, Hindu nationalism. two major religions are creating havocs in the region.
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Coming from an urban middle class Hindu family(Malayali) staying in Bangalore, i personally believe the popularity of Modi is due to the belief among people that the BJP is a better alternative to the Congress. This supposed Hindu rashtra will never happen. Outside of UP,Bihar, it has no takers. Even most Gujarati Hindus(supposedly the most extremist Hindus) are much more tolerant than people would believe. Hindu society is more and more saffronised? Where did you get that from? Besides, the Congress is ultimately responsible for the growth of the BJP. It's Muslim appeasement policies have driven away a large number of people towards the BJP.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Coming from an urban middle class Hindu family(Malayali) staying in Bangalore, i personally believe the popularity of Modi is due to the belief among people that the BJP is a better alternative to the Congress. This supposed Hindu rashtra will never happen. Outside of UP,Bihar, it has no takers. Even most Gujarati Hindus(supposedly the most extremist Hindus) are much more tolerant than people would believe. Hindu society is more and more saffronised? Where did you get that from? Besides, the Congress is ultimately responsible for the growth of the BJP. It's Muslim appeasement policies have driven away a large number of people towards the BJP.
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The bolded parts are very true.Plus the likes of Congress/SP and a few other regional parties are almost like Anti-hindus.
 
aamirzargar said:
LOL see what we have here. "Azadi ke liye to humesha hi tarastey rahenge" Just goes on to show why we hate India so much. As I said before, most Indians derive sadistic pleasure out of continuous human rights violations by their army as a catharsis for displacement of pandits from valley. It's funny how Modi's election is being portrayed under the false banner of development while the reason of his popularity among masses is just his role in allowing massacre of Muslims in Gujarat.
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They have voted scum like this guy as their leader. I despise their leaders, their hypocrisy and their corruption against minorities.

Disgusting and outrageous.
 
Eradicator is bitter about everything outside Maharashtra.nobody should take him seriously.:D
 
Indiana Jones said:
Aaaah, you found in country in the whole world map. Very nice to hear that.
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So now that you're theory has been flushed down the toilet, you come up with a typical response. How many Hindu majority countries are democratic? Democratic as in they don't expel students for cheering for Pakistan.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Coming from an urban middle class Hindu family(Malayali) staying in Bangalore, i personally believe the popularity of Modi is due to the belief among people that the BJP is a better alternative to the Congress. This supposed Hindu rashtra will never happen. Outside of UP,Bihar, it has no takers. Even most Gujarati Hindus(supposedly the most extremist Hindus) are much more tolerant than people would believe. Hindu society is more and more saffronised? Where did you get that from? Besides, the Congress is ultimately responsible for the growth of the BJP. It's Muslim appeasement policies have driven away a large number of people towards the BJP.
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Cool story. We can see how much Muslim appeasing you have been doing with your defence of the indefensible in this thread. Whenever there are riots or teenage girls locked up for not showing respect on the funeral of rabid fundos like Thackeray, it showcases how much appeasement there is in the kind Indian hearts.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Cool story. We can see how much Muslim appeasing you have been doing with your defence of the indefensible in this thread. Whenever there are riots or teenage girls locked up for not showing respect on the funeral of rabid fundos like Thackeray, it showcases how much appeasement there is in the kind Indian hearts.
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Are you Indian?If not then i wonder why should anything be showed to you?

Did you know what did the Supreme court told the Policemen who arrrested those girls?

In riots Hindus are killed as well.

Most things Indian is indefensible on Pakistani forum,thats pretty sure.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Cool story. We can see how much Muslim appeasing you have been doing with your defence of the indefensible in this thread. Whenever there are riots or teenage girls locked up for not showing respect on the funeral of rabid fundos like Thackeray, it showcases how much appeasement there is in the kind Indian hearts.
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Perhaps you should actually come over and live in India for a while before you post? Where did I support bal thackeray or the locking up of teenage girls in india for posting on FB? I'm merely stating that the Congress has lost a lot of it's traditional support because it is perceived to be a party which indulges the minority much more than it should. Nobody in India cares about anyone but themselves anyway. Muslims are only concerned about their own well being as are the various Hindu castes. If, all the reservations that are kept aside for the so called minorities, is considered unacceptable for the urban Hindu middle class why shouldn't they support a party which might actually give a damn about them. It's easy for a Pakistani origin man living in the UK to see everything in black and white. Except that everything is a shade of grey in this part of the world.
 
I am going through this thread and deleting some posts.

Let me make it clear that this is a Pakistani forum - it is therefore, logical to assume, that there will be some bias towards Pakistan

For some posters to come here and openly insult Pakistan in the name of free speech is unacceptable to say the least and we will take action where appropriate.
 
MenInG said:
I am going through this thread and deleting some posts.

Let me make it clear that this is a Pakistani forum - it is therefore, logical to assume, that there will be some bias towards Pakistan

For some posters to come here and openly insult Pakistan in the name of free speech is unacceptable to say the least and we will take action where appropriate.
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+1
Been saying the same things for a while now...
 
Leo said:
You can take a horse to the river but you can't make it drink. That is the issue here. All pretence and no attempt to understand the issue.

Regardless, let me try to explain again. The issue at hand was not supporting the 'Pakistani team'. It was clearly the support of the 'perceived' enemy state Pakistan. At this moment, with Pakistan's woeful record of acting on cross border terrorism and the lack of action on the perpetrators of the Mumbai attack, the view of the common man on the streets is that of an enemy state. You can argue all day about the technicalities but that's the simple truth.

With the elections around the corner, the situation is ripe for a conflagration and this is stupid and wanton behaviour, which only makes it easier for the radicals and makes life tough for the other Muslims who have no issue with the majority.

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This is pathetic. You are extrapolating a whole host of hidden meanings from two words and basically linking uttering Pakistan Zindabad at a cricket match to terrorism. It doesn't get any more absurd than that but it's at least served some purpose of uncovering the warped mentality of diehard Hindu nationalists.
 
DoosraTeesra said:
Comments by Indians on india's largest newspaper are pretty disgusting and obnoxious to say the least. Second top rated comment is instigating a "2002 like riot" in kashmir. WOW! World's largest democracy right there for everyone to witness

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ks-win-against-India/articleshow/31435489.cms
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So what else do you think is the reason why Indians want Modi as their PM ? At-least these people aren't hiding their aspirations behind the drama of development played by Modi and co. Not long ago I read some Indians discussing on this very newspaper how Modi will pull off a Srebenica in Kashmir and purify it for Hindus.
 
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Cpt. Rishwat said:
This is pathetic. You are extrapolating a whole host of hidden meanings from two words and basically linking uttering Pakistan Zindabad at a cricket match to terrorism. It doesn't get any more absurd than that but it's at least served some purpose of uncovering the warped mentality of diehard Hindu nationalists.
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Again, the refusal to see sense. There are no 'hidden meaning'. It's plain and simple. Maybe, in your pursuit of obfuscating issues, it's 'hidden'. And diehard Hindu nationalists? Lol at that. Do you even know if I am a Hindu? That tells a lot about your mentality. Warped or twisted is upto the reader to decipher.

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I never knew there were so many die-hard right wing Hindu nationalists on PP.

These pathetic posters should not preach here about liberalism and being secular again.
 
I'm a hindu. And I am proud of it. Go and label me a hindu extremist now.

I have seen so many times that in PP whenever you hold an opinion different to "Muslim extremists" you are immediately labeled as a hindu extremist or nationalist or whatever.
 
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Why pakistan is so obsessed with the 'Modi factor'? He was innocent as per our supreme court and the commander of the force that was sent to crush those riots. Why dont you people think about this?
 
MenInG said:
I am going through this thread and deleting some posts.

Let me make it clear that this is a Pakistani forum - it is therefore, logical to assume, that there will be some bias towards Pakistan

For some posters to come here and openly insult Pakistan in the name of free speech is unacceptable to say the least and we will take action where appropriate.
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Fair enough.This is exactly the case with Kashmiri students as well..Taking freedom of expression into an ''unacceptable'' level..from the nations point of view..
 
This issue is getting unnecessary mileage in the media. All this over a Jamodi :facepalm:

Let Kashmiri people say Pakistan Zindabad. Even I will say it. That is not going to change anything.

As long as people don't insult National flag or Anthem or go on a rampage on streets and vandalizing public property etc, it should all be allowed.

Pretty pathetic from police and media if all the students did was shout Pak Zindabad.
 
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mithun_minhas said:
This issue is getting unnecessary mileage in the media. All this over a Jamodi :facepalm:

Let Kashmiri people say Pakistan Zindabad. Even I will say it. That is not going to change anything.

As long as people don't insult National flag or Anthem or go on a rampage on streets and vandalizing public property etc, it should all be allowed.

Pretty pathetic from police and media if all the students did was shout Pak Zindabad.
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Agreed..Accusing sedition and taking case is totally unwanted...only to create more disharmony..I hope they drop charges against them..
 
mithun_minhas said:
This issue is getting unnecessary mileage in the media. All this over a Jamodi :facepalm:

Let Kashmiri people say Pakistan Zindabad. Even I will say it. That is not going to change anything.

As long as people don't insult National flag or Anthem or go on a rampage on streets and vandalizing public property etc, it should all be allowed.

Pretty pathetic from police and media if all the students did was shout Pak Zindabad.
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Fellow Indian PPers need to learn from mithun_minhas.

If you want the world to believe that. Your are an open progressive democratic secular society then please act like one. Dont let your jingoism and bigotry and religion hold you back raising voice against injustice
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
How is saying Pakistan Zindabad directly against the state of India? I asked this before but still no reply.
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Well.The relationship.See when Pak lost to BD during WC99,then captain Akram told that ''We have lost to our brothers...''.Can any Pak captain told such a way after losing to India.There lies the difference...And as for Afghans cheering for India same way as ''brotherhood...''

Now a bunch of hindus celebrating after Mohali semifinal and cheering ''Bharat mata ki jai..''in Pak,i doubt the situation would have been peaceful..
 
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I am an Indian. My take on the issue:

1. What the students did was wrong. Being an Indian citizen, shouting pro Pak slogans in India is not acceptable.

2. If some Pakistani people visit India and cheer for Pak, I have no problems.

Everyone should be loyal to the country which is providing him/her everything.

3. Those Pakistani friends who think that the students did no wrong, Imagine PoK students shouting pro India slogans in Pakistan college. Tell me your reaction on that.

4. The action taken by the authorities is harsh. They should have been let off with a strict warning.

5. It's sad to see that people here equate Indian Nationalism with Hinduism or BJPism. Perhaps it's because for them Pak Nationalism is tightly linked to Islamism?

Incidentally, the officer who suspended them from the university is a Muslim.

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Nikhil_cric said:
Coming from an urban middle class Hindu family(Malayali) staying in Bangalore, i personally believe the popularity of Modi is due to the belief among people that the BJP is a better alternative to the Congress. This supposed Hindu rashtra will never happen. Outside of UP,Bihar, it has no takers. Even most Gujarati Hindus(supposedly the most extremist Hindus) are much more tolerant than people would believe. Hindu society is more and more saffronised? Where did you get that from? Besides, the Congress is ultimately responsible for the growth of the BJP. It's Muslim appeasement policies have driven away a large number of people towards the BJP.
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see, it is your perspective and what I posted is mine after carefully understanding the changes in the society around us and pan India scenario.
Hindu Rashtra, is very much the core ideology of RSS and other rightwing Sanghi organizations and general population in some regions. Modi is loved for this cause by Sangh organizations not Development. Abrahamics are expected to meet a treatment of what Jews got from Hitler's reign.

South Indian Hindus are going through a "silent phase" converting them to extreme version called north Indian militant Hinduism unlike the Hinduism I witnessed in Kerala where Muslims are members in Temple committees and a Temple/Church Festival is a gathering of whole village/town. Now, We need RSS and Shiva Sena in Kerala. right? Padmanabha swamy temple is now literally under patronage of Shiva Sena.
for many a North Indian Hindu, a RSS sakha is like a Vincent De Paul society for a Catholic. they are habituated to riots and the Hindu supremacist ideologies.

BJP is the outershell; Shiva Sena, Bajrang Dal etcetera are the protection layers; RSS is the kernel - the Ideology and all.

Regarding Muslim appeasement, I agree. Muslims are treated as vote bank. we all know that. There are a lot of negatives about the Sunni Muslim community in India. but, it is like opening up a Pandora's box. let's abstain from doing that. :) some generalizations(can be wrong!) :

Muslims in South who are not Urdu/Hindi speakers, who are not Turkic or Pathan or North Indian, but who are Mappila or Tamil or Beary will be educated and much tolerant than the ones from Hindi heartland who prefers to live in the ghettos, pulling rickshaw and selling pan while the southern Muslims will excel as IAS and IPS officers or Rank holders. so, there is basically some issues with the community apart from growing extremism among some of them thanks to imported ideologies.
 
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And yes,

Those saying that Kashmiris should get equal rights in India, Surprise! Kashmiris have more rights than other Indian citizens!
e.g.,

They can buy land anywhere in India, but non Kashmiris can not buy land in Kashmir.

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Cochin_wala said:
see, it is your perspective and what I posted is mine after carefully understanding the changes in the society around us and pan India scenario.
Hindu Rashtra, is very much the core ideology of RSS and other rightwing Sanghi organizations and general population in some regions. Modi is loved for this cause by Sangh organizations not Development. Abrahamics are expected to meet a treatment of what Jews got from Hitler's reign.

South Indian Hindus are going through a "silent phase" converting them to extreme version called north Indian militant Hinduism unlike the Hinduism I witnessed in Kerala where Muslims are members in Temple committees and a Temple/Church Festival is a gathering of whole village/town. Now, We need RSS and Shiva Sena in Kerala. right? Padmanabha swamy temple is now literally under patronage of Shiva Sena.
for many a North Indian Hindu, a RSS sakha is like a Vincent De Paul society for a Catholic. they are habituated to riots and the Hindu supremacist ideologies.

BJP is the outershell; Shiva Sena, Bajrang Dal etcetera are the protection layers; RSS is the kernel - the Ideology and all.

Regarding Muslim appeasement, I agree. Muslims are treated as vote bank. we all know that. There are a lot of negatives about the Sunni Muslim community in India. but, it is like opening up a Pandora's box. let's abstain from doing that. :) some generalizations(can be wrong!) :

Muslims in South who are not Urdu/Hindi speakers, who are not Turkic or Pathan or North Indian, but who are Mappila or Tamil or Beary will be educated and much tolerant than the ones from Hindi heartland who prefers to live in the ghettos, pulling rickshaw and selling pan while the southern Muslims will excel as IAS and IPS officers or Rank holders. so, there is basically some issues with the community apart from growing extremism among some of them thanks to imported ideologies.
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Were the terrorists who butchered a Christian Professor's hands in Kerala influenced by BJP or Shiv Sena ? And what about the Marad Massacre ?
 
King Cobra said:
Were the terrorists who butchered a Christian Professor's hands in Kerala influenced by BJP or Shiv Sena ? And what about the Marad Massacre ?
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There are extremists in every religion and Indian subcontinent contains a lot of extremist followers of religions. Jamaat-e-Islami Hind and it's terrorists wing like SDPI are to be banned as should be RSS. pretty balanced. ;-)
 
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cricketjoshila said:
Are you Indian?If not then i wonder why should anything be showed to you?
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My apologies, I hope you'll pardon my my insolence in questioning your views presented on this Pakistan forum! Please don't report me to the mods on grounds of sedition against the board! :91:
 
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Robbie said:
I'm a hindu. And I am proud of it. Go and label me a hindu extremist now.

I have seen so many times that in PP whenever you hold an opinion different to "Muslim extremists" you are immediately labeled as a hindu extremist or nationalist or whatever.
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Exactly,why they play victim card,innocent card is beyond me,chill buddy like they say opinions are like orgasms mine is what's necessary urs don't matter,so that's why no matter how much sense u make,they will call it nonsense.

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DoosraTeesra said:
Fellow Indian PPers need to learn from mithun_minhas.

If you want the world to believe that. Your are an open progressive democratic secular society then please act like one. Dont let your jingoism and bigotry and religion hold you back raising voice against injustice
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Same apply to u guys too DT,wonder where has those large hearts gone.

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fatichar said:
I am an Indian. My take on the issue:

1. What the students did was wrong. Being an Indian citizen, shouting pro Pak slogans in India is not acceptable.

2. If some Pakistani people visit India and cheer for Pak, I have no problems.

Everyone should be loyal to the country which is providing him/her everything.

3. Those Pakistani friends who think that the students did no wrong, Imagine PoK students shouting pro India slogans in Pakistan college. Tell me your reaction on that.

4. The action taken by the authorities is harsh. They should have been let off with a strict warning.

5. It's sad to see that people here equate Indian Nationalism with Hinduism or BJPism. Perhaps it's because for them Pak Nationalism is tightly linked to Islamism?

Incidentally, the officer who suspended them from the university is a Muslim.

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This!!!,well said,linking everything to hinduism is not right.

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fatichar said:
And yes,

Those saying that Kashmiris should get equal rights in India, Surprise! Kashmiris have more rights than other Indian citizens!
e.g.,

They can buy land anywhere in India, but non Kashmiris can not buy land in Kashmir.

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Exactly.

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Cochin_wala said:
There are extremists in every religion and Indian subcontinent contains a lot of extremist followers of religions. Jamaat-e-Islami Hind and it's terrorists wing like SDPI are to be banned as should be RSS. pretty balanced. ;-)
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I hope government also bans Jamaat-e-Islami based on the public interest litigation filed by our muslim brother Abdul Samad.
 
I am very disappointed in India. There is no way this can be justified. Any Indian who is trying to justify these actions should get his/her head checked.
 
Chalo, at least the sedition charges are dropped now.
 
siddharth said:
Well.The relationship.See when Pak lost to BD during WC99,then captain Akram told that ''We have lost to our brothers...''.Can any Pak captain told such a way after losing to India.There lies the difference...And as for Afghans cheering for India same way as ''brotherhood...''

Now a bunch of hindus celebrating after Mohali semifinal and cheering ''Bharat mata ki jai..''in Pak,i doubt the situation would have been peaceful..
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Akram also said we lost to our neighbors after super 6 match against India in 1999 World Cup.

Afghan refugee celebrated India's Mohali win and no action was taken against them because we have freedom of speech and big hearts.
 
Ambi said:
South india should separate from Indian union ,i think this is the only way to wipe out both Hindu and Muslim religious extremists from here.
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don't come to India soon. sedition charges are waiting for you. :46: .

but, yes historically north India suffered invasions and people are aggressive and some castes or tribes are considered dangerous there.(I am told by north Indians only!)

Religious riots are pretty common in Unite Province aka Uttar Pradesh, Bihar and across northern India and Maharashtra also. recent ones are at Muzaffarnagar which got national interest. then, Godhra riots, Anti-Sikh riots and many untold Zulm done by Hindus,Sikhs and Muslims against each other.
besides, abject poverty, casteism, Brahmins and high castes as well as some OBC's literally keeping dalits and aboriginals as slaves. their society is also intolerant than south. we have recently read about Khap panchayaths and such kangaroo court systems existing there.
Rape epidemic is expected considering many of them prey on others property(Women are considered as property in some south asian countries). there is a dire need of mellowing their culture to a tolerable limit instead of aggressive behaviour which I believe Punjabis,Delhiites pioneer.
 
justarslan said:
Akram also said we lost to our neighbors after super 6 match against India in 1999 World Cup.

Afghan refugee celebrated India's Mohali win and no action was taken against them because we have freedom of speech and big hearts.
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PESHAWAR: One staff nurse of Lady Reading Hospital (LRH) was killed in aerial firing opened by cricket fans in various parts of city as gloom and despondency was written large on the face of Peshawarites at the news of Indian victory in World Cup Semi Final 2011.

Peshawarites were in a state of shock due to the defeat of the national team the Afghan refugees were celebrating the Indian victory and opened aerial firing and took out rallies to celebrate the occasion.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-13442-Cricket-fans-firing-claim-life-in-city
Freedom of speech and big heart :facepalm:
 
Ambi said:
PESHAWAR: One staff nurse of Lady Reading Hospital (LRH) was killed in aerial firing opened by cricket fans in various parts of city as gloom and despondency was written large on the face of Peshawarites at the news of Indian victory in World Cup Semi Final 2011.

Peshawarites were in a state of shock due to the defeat of the national team the Afghan refugees were celebrating the Indian victory and opened aerial firing and took out rallies to celebrate the occasion.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-13442-Cricket-fans-firing-claim-life-in-city
Freedom of speech and big heart :facepalm:
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Whats your point? Some posters said that that cheering for the opposition would not be tolerated in Pakistan. As the article demonstrates, the Afghans do cheer for India in some places and they are tolerated. Now the fact that such a tragedy occured is unfortunate and despicable but besides the point when considering the objections raised by this thread.

And personally speaking I would not charge anybody with sedition or anti-nationalism in the above case (even though many Afghans are born in Pakistan) but just blatant disregard of the law when carrying out a procession on the street by aerial firing.
 
fatichar said:
And yes,

Those saying that Kashmiris should get equal rights in India, Surprise! Kashmiris have more rights than other Indian citizens!
e.g.,

They can buy land anywhere in India, but non Kashmiris can not buy land in Kashmir.

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Hehehehe you must be joking..!!where i live non tribals cannot buy property though they are from UP,BIHAR,BENGAL,KASHMIR etc etc guess all this part of india
 
Cochin_wala said:
don't come to India soon. sedition charges are waiting for you. :46: .

but, yes historically north India suffered invasions and people are aggressive and some castes or tribes are considered dangerous there.(I am told by north Indians only!)

Religious riots are pretty common in Unite Province aka Uttar Pradesh, Bihar and across northern India and Maharashtra also. recent ones are at Muzaffarnagar which got national interest. then, Godhra riots, Anti-Sikh riots and many untold Zulm done by Hindus,Sikhs and Muslims against each other.
besides, abject poverty, casteism, Brahmins and high castes as well as some OBC's literally keeping dalits and aboriginals as slaves. their society is also intolerant than south. we have recently read about Khap panchayaths and such kangaroo court systems existing there.
Rape epidemic is expected considering many of them prey on others property(Women are considered as property in some south asian countries). there is a dire need of mellowing their culture to a tolerable limit instead of aggressive behaviour which I believe Punjabis,Delhiites pioneer.
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dude it is clear all you know about India are from some articles on the net.

BTW, sedition charges have been dropped

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...s-after-political-storm/article1-1191867.aspx
 
Artless Dodges said:
Whats your point? Some posters said that that cheering for the opposition would not be tolerated in Pakistan. As the article demonstrates, the Afghans do cheer for India in some places and they are tolerated. Now the fact that such a tragedy occured is unfortunate and despicable but besides the point when considering the objections raised by this thread. And personally speaking I would not charge anybody with sedition or anti-nationalism in the above case (even though many Afghans are born in Pakistan) but just blatant disregard of the law when carrying out a procession on the street by aerial firing.
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They were not celebrating pakistan's defeat peacefully,even in india people don't dare to mess up with these type of people.
 
They were not celebrating pakistan's defeat peacefully,even in india people don't dare to mess up with these type of people.
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Are you implying that they were let go because they are too dangerous?
 
Cochin_wala said:
don't come to India soon. sedition charges are waiting for you. :46: .
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Iam staying in india,lets see who is going to file complaint against me :msd

but, yes historically north India suffered invasions and people are aggressive and some castes or tribes are considered dangerous there.(I am told by north Indians only!)

Religious riots are pretty common in Unite Province aka Uttar Pradesh, Bihar and across northern India and Maharashtra also. recent ones are at Muzaffarnagar which got national interest. then, Godhra riots, Anti-Sikh riots and many untold Zulm done by Hindus,Sikhs and Muslims against each other.
besides, abject poverty, casteism, Brahmins and high castes as well as some OBC's literally keeping dalits and aboriginals as slaves. their society is also intolerant than south. we have recently read about Khap panchayaths and such kangaroo court systems existing there.
Rape epidemic is expected considering many of them prey on others property(Women are considered as property in some south asian countries). there is a dire need of mellowing their culture to a tolerable limit instead of aggressive behaviour which I believe Punjabis,Delhiites pioneer.
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Agree with you that's what iam saying we are culturally different from them and also people from north east india who are victims of racial abuse and brutalities of our army should separate from indian union.
 
The video to me looks nothing more than some boisterous college students trying to celebrate and rile their opponents up. No doubt, they have been teased as being Kashmiris and Pakistanis by the others (heck, that happened to a Kashmiri in my school) and banter was going on throughout the match from both sides. To make that a national issue? Really?
 
the expression on the sardar's face is priceless :))) and anyone else notice how the indian supporters suddenly left the room? small hearts :afridi
 
They are some fans.

I remember watching a Pak-Afg T20 match recently at my uni hostel with some Afghan students( die hard Afghan cricket supporters) , it was a great fun and full of friendly banter.

Unis ( are/ and should be) more liberal and tolerant places than rest of society outside, such incident happening in a university should be a concern in itself.
 
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dhump said:
OMG look at them cheering and enjoying themselves..... Hang them all Indians they are great danger to state of India.

Pathetic
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Don't worry, this is just election time. All sedition charges have been dropped against them and soon they will be back at the university too
 
Indiafan said:
Don't worry, this is just election time. All sedition charges have been dropped against them and soon they will be back at the university too
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Seriously sad that they have to went through all this and will go through a lot for many days to come due to this incident.

I think India in reality is a different place then it is portrayed in media and all other PR materials. Above all government is a big drama to make this issue so big and not trying to solve it.
 
this is how the largest democracy in the world reacts, it's normal :afridi

they need to learn tolerance, they're still immature, politically and religiously
 
Now I saw the video I head them chanting "Allah o Akbar" but not Pakistani Zindabad.
 
So it was all over nothing.

I kept saying this was manufactured drama to whip up jingonism and hysteria.

I felt sorry for the students to get treated like this.

All I can say is shame on India !
 
3 Kashmiri students trapped in Meerut, hiding to save their lives

Local youths want to kill us, say "trapped" Kashmiri students in Meerut

Three students allegedly trapped in Meerut, city of Uttar Pradesh say the local youths' 'were searching for them, and want to kill them'. The students are among over sixty students who were forced out of their college after they cheered for Pakistan cricket team in their match against India.

A Srinagar based news agency GNS quoted one of the studentsas having said, " they are searching for us. They want to kill us and we fear for our lives." The student claimed to be in companion with another student, both given refuge by local muslims. "We are'nt able to eat due to fear," he said.He said third student was at another place.

The student said they are unable to move due to 'fear and terror' created by local youth. He expressed disappointment with the University authorities for filing a sedition case against them. " As if we had waged a war against India. We had never imagined the isuue would reach here," he said.


http://www.jandknow.com/news/03061992-local-youths-want-kill-us-trapped-kashmiri-students-meerut
 
rayfder said:
Local youths want to kill us, say "trapped" Kashmiri students in Meerut

Three students allegedly trapped in Meerut, city of Uttar Pradesh say the local youths' 'were searching for them, and want to kill them'. The students are among over sixty students who were forced out of their college after they cheered for Pakistan cricket team in their match against India.

A Srinagar based news agency GNS quoted one of the studentsas having said, " they are searching for us. They want to kill us and we fear for our lives." The student claimed to be in companion with another student, both given refuge by local muslims. "We are'nt able to eat due to fear," he said.He said third student was at another place.

The student said they are unable to move due to 'fear and terror' created by local youth. He expressed disappointment with the University authorities for filing a sedition case against them. " As if we had waged a war against India. We had never imagined the isuue would reach here," he said.


http://www.jandknow.com/news/03061992-local-youths-want-kill-us-trapped-kashmiri-students-meerut
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Disgusting.

In a way it's good they got out.

Studying is important but not worth it to risk your life like this.
 
Re: Indian University Expels Kashmiris for Celebrating Pak Win [Booked for Sedition]

^^^^^

LOL at the source.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Are you Indian?If not then i wonder why should anything be showed to you?

Did you know what did the Supreme court told the Policemen who arrrested those girls?

In riots Hindus are killed as well.

Most things Indian is indefensible on Pakistani forum,thats pretty sure.
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you need to read the quote from one of your countrymen about what the Kashmiri students as being unaccepatable in India and that what didi they expect.

That should remind you about your comment above :55:
 
90MPH said:
So it was all over nothing.

I kept saying this was manufactured drama to whip up jingonism and hysteria.

I felt sorry for the students to get treated like this.

All I can say is shame on India !
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But, but it the land of secularism, they dont drum up jingoism, its the rule that the motherland is above all people and all peeps are equal, and beside they preach live and let live, so what if people want to wish another country well, there is only secularism there, thank you, come again.
 
Forgive my ignorance, but what about the Hindu students who protested, did vandalism, burnt effigy of VC of this university, beaten some of the students, are there any charges brought upon them. 2 faces of India, fake shows of itself as progressive and large-hearted from the outside and intolerant and regressive from the inside. I doubt Kashmiri students will return there hope there future is not destroyed just for watching India v Pakistan match, another student's recollection of what happened:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq57s3PDupk

and how ludicrous it is to accuse them of sloganeering when they were in minority in a charged atmosphere who just cheered at the last ball Afridi hit for six, they did'nt celebrate as the hindu students pursued them and hurled abuses against them all night breaking their hostel windows to get them out of the hostel.
 
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After watching the video, its clear their actions are provocative especially in an india pak game . Hopefully they will think twice about doing this outside of JK and learn their lesson.
 
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hindukush said:
you need to read the quote from one of your countrymen about what the Kashmiri students as being unaccepatable in India and that what didi they expect.

That should remind you about your comment above :55:
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What the students did was provocative and that is why they were suspended.
 
Not sure why people are surprised . Kashmiris are systematically raped , tortured , murdered by Indian authorities .

Now they want to give life sentences for cheering for Pakistan.

Jai hind
 
KingKhanWC said:
Not sure why people are surprised . Kashmiris are systematically raped , tortured , murdered by Indian authorities .

Now they want to give life sentences for cheering for Pakistan.

Jai hind
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Shush, many Indian posters are convinced here that Kashmiris get better treatment than a regular Indian


load of BS :))
 
I think the university should takes these steps:

1. Revoke their suspension/termination from their courses

2. Public apologize to those students

3. Request those students to come back and continue their courses

4. Officially celebrate a day for Pakistan cricket team and involve every student in it to show everyone that its ok to celebrate Pakistan cricket team
 
If you live in any country , you have to show your respect toward the host country naturally. What has done by kashmiri student , it was totally different that what media has projected. Cheering to your favorite country is different but shouting anti-national slogan is not acceptable at any cost irrespective of what so called freedom of speech they have. However, this report is an example of poor journalism. I read this on NDTV yesterday, as a featured story. The same kashmiri students were involved in stone throwing and property damage, which has not been reported at all.its election times you knw ,cnt coment
I have witnessed so many times , these student doesn't even chant indian national anthem in university gathering and function , infact it is not a big issue. but they don't even stand for five minutes during national anthem. it looks awkward and others feels it as insult. They need to understand others feeling also.
 
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