Indians blaming Odisha Train derailment on Muslims

[Major]

So, Indians have found reason to blame the train crash on muslims and are trying to cause communal issues.

An image was being shown that people claimed that a mosque was near the tracks and the muslim community was involved in spiking the tracks. Turns out that the alleged mosque is infact a hindu temple.

https://www.thequint.com/news/webqo...a-train-mishap-fact-check#read-more#read-more

 

[Varun]

Bhakts sink to new lows everyday.

 

[happydavy]

A few idiots don't constitute all of India. Just because a few Pakistanis formed the grooming gangs in UK doesn't read 'Pakistanis abusing underage girls in London'

 

[Technics 1210]

https://news.sky.com/story/signal-f...cks-before-india-crash-says-minister-12896140

India's deadly rail crash was likely caused by a signalling failure that resulted in a train wrongly changing tracks, the country's railway minister has said.

Ashwini Vaishnaw said there had been an error with the "electronic interlocking" - a system that manages the tracks and signal sequencing using sensors and feedback.

 

[Technics 1210]

A few idiots don't constitute all of India. Just because a few Pakistanis formed the grooming gangs in UK doesn't read 'Pakistanis abusing underage girls in London'

There it is, the comparison with Pakistan. Yes you are one of the few mentioned.

 

[happydavy]

There it is, the comparison with Pakistan. Yes you are one of the few mentioned.

Your honor, it's just that i don't need your validation. If someone is going to pick a few random people and color my entire country with the same brush then i will oppose it. You have a problem with that, be my guest.

 

[Technics 1210]

Your honor, it's just that i don't need your validation. If someone is going to pick a few random people and color my entire country with the same brush then i will oppose it. You have a problem with that, be my guest.

I don't have a problem, because people like you prove everything I believe and what the world thinks of India.

Keep it up the great work in the name of Pakistan.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Using a rag website which in turn used a unverified twitter handle, the OP tries to generalize Indians.

The railway minister has given a statement that the accident happened due to interlocking failure. How the failure happened is yet to be ascertained.

No one has blamed Muslims.

 

[Major]

A few idiots don't constitute all of India. Just because a few Pakistanis formed the grooming gangs in UK doesn't read 'Pakistanis abusing underage girls in London'

nice try, trying to diverts this to pakistanis.....

Thing is, why did those few idiots try to make this communal? Why is hindu vs muslim still a thing in secular India?

Had it been a mosque, this View point of muslims being involved would had been shared acrossed the majority?

I thank to Allah that luckily, that wasnt a mosque but a hindu temple, or else i fear what would had the people done with muslims after this event had it been a mosque

 

[Major]

Using a rag website which in turn used a unverified twitter handle, the OP tries to generalize Indians.

The railway minister has given a statement that the accident happened due to interlocking failure. How the failure happened is yet to be ascertained.

No one has blamed Muslims.

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https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...unal-spin-to-train-crash-101685870680506.html

hindustan times aswell reporting

 

[Major]

Your honor, it's just that i don't need your validation. If someone is going to pick a few random people and color my entire country with the same brush then i will oppose it. You have a problem with that, be my guest.

why not oppose those few random people causing hate? Your issue is with the people like me posting this news and not with the people who are causing the issue.

If you had issue with the people blaming this on muslims you would had never bought "Pakistan" into this. Yet you did. THus, your issue is more with why Pakistanis are mentioning this and not with the people causing this

 

[Champ_Pal]

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https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...unal-spin-to-train-crash-101685870680506.html

hindustan times aswell reporting

There will always be elements who try to disturb communal harmony over every disaster. But your title indicates as though Indian courts and law & Order have found Muslims to be culprits is laughable.

Nice attempt though.

 

[Major]

There will always be elements who try to disturb communal harmony over every disaster. But your title indicates as though Indian courts and law & Order have found Muslims to be culprits is laughable.

Nice attempt though.

so wait, those people are not Indians?

who are they than?

If there will always be elemments who try to disturb communal harmony, than that is an issue in India. THat shows there is communal hate in India, because you have now admitted that it ALWAYS happens.

Now how should they be referred to if they are not Indians? Because you yourself have said IT ALWAYS happens and not a one off incident.

Your issue is again then same, Indian nationalism should be protected at all cost, even though 300 people are killed and there was a potential for Muslim hate to be created.

Had that been a mosque, everyone here knows what would had happened after wards in India. Muslims would had been looked with suspicion only because of one Mosque.

 

[Champ_Pal]

so wait, those people are not Indians?

who are they than?

If there will always be elemments who try to disturb communal harmony, than that is an issue in India. THat shows there is communal hate in India, because you have now admitted that it ALWAYS happens.

Now how should they be referred to if they are not Indians? Because you yourself have said IT ALWAYS happens and not a one off incident.

Your issue is again then same, Indian nationalism should be protected at all cost, even though 300 people are killed and there was a potential for Muslim hate to be created.

Had that been a mosque, everyone here knows what would had happened after wards in India. Muslims would had been looked with suspicion only because of one Mosque.

You are playing dumb on purpose. The online trolls may be Indians. But that does not mean all Indians approve it. If you cannot see the difference, I don't know what to say.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Just watched a news interview of Modi saying he was going to identify the culprits and give them the heaviest punishment, as soon as I heard it I could see this coming.

 

[Major]

You are playing dumb on purpose. The online trolls may be Indians. But that does not mean all Indians approve it. If you cannot see the difference, I don't know what to say.

Did you said anything that condemns what these Indian Trolls said?

No your issue is why are people like me reporting this. Now with the ones who are actually doing the deed.

 

[uppercut]

Thing is, why did those few idiots try to make this communal? Why is hindu vs muslim still a thing in secular India?

Simple answer is Past history or Track Record. Do this exercise: make a list of all major communal incidents that have happened since 1947 and let me know if it was Hindus or Muslims that were the instigators (according to you).

you can also do this thought exercise: Do other minority groups like Sikhs, Christians, Parsis etc get similarly blamed for anything bad that happens?

Not saying that this sort of blame game is the right thing to do ... but at the same time you cannot lay the blame entirely on one party.

 

[Major]

Simple answer is Past history or Track Record. Do this exercise: make a list of all major communal incidents that have happened since 1947 and let me know if it was Hindus or Muslims that were the instigators (according to you).

you can also do this thought exercise: Do other minority groups like Sikhs, Christians, Parsis etc get similarly blamed for anything bad that happens?

Not saying that this sort of blame game is the right thing to do ... but at the same time you cannot lay the blame entirely on one party.

so on this basis you justify the suspicion that was done by Indian tweeter posters?

So had it been a mosque, you would had used the above logic to justify the suspicion on muslims?

Thank you for indirectly admitting you hold such beliefs

 

[uppercut]

so on this basis you justify the suspicion that was done by Indian tweeter posters?

So had it been a mosque, you would had used the above logic to justify the suspicion on muslims?

Thank you for indirectly admitting you hold such beliefs

Read the last line of my post again. It is not a justification. It is a facts based explanation to your question about Why is hindu vs muslim still a thing in secular India? ( those are your own words and my response was to answer that broader question ) . Its not like Muslims in India have a spotless pristine history when it comes to this topic as you are trying to paint it ... which is why I asked you to do those 2 exercises. Whats your answer to those questions ?

 

[Champ_Pal]

Did you said anything that condemns what these Indian Trolls said?

No your issue is why are people like me reporting this. Now with the ones who are actually doing the deed.

If we keep condemning everything trolls say on internet, 24 hours will not be enough.

I sincerely hope those false information spreaders who are blaming Muslims get caught and publicly named and humiliated.

 

[Major]

Read the last line of my post again. It is not a justification. It is a facts based explanation to your question about Why is hindu vs muslim still a thing in secular India? ( those are your own words and my response was to answer that broader question ) . Its not like Muslims in India have a spotless pristine history when it comes to this topic as you are trying to paint it ... which is why I asked you to do those 2 exercises. Whats your answer to those questions ?

thus, you would had been looking at muslim with suspicion had that not been temple but a mosque.

 

[uppercut]

thus, you would had been looking at muslim with suspicion had that not been temple but a mosque.

Dude if it is not obvious yet based on my past posts on this forum Iam purely facts bound. The facts so far state that it was a technical issue in this incident and that there was no sabotage involved. So stop trying to shove your opinions on to me.

Now to the part you highlighted in your post .... what do you think "this topic" means in that highlighted line ?

 

[MenInG]

Look the fact is that this story came out of India so its obvious that suspicions are on Indians.

 

[Major]

Dude if it is not obvious yet based on my past posts on this forum Iam purely facts bound. The facts so far state that it was a technical issue in this incident and that there was no sabotage involved. So stop trying to shove your opinions on to me.

Now to the part you highlighted in your post .... what do you think "this topic" means in that highlighted line ?

and yet you came up with the past history of muslims comment, thus, it indicates you would have had suspicions had that been a mosque.

I think rest of the posters shouldn't whine about Indian being mentioned when other Indian posters also would had shared the same suspicion had it been a mosque due to past history as per [MENTION=155966]uppercut[/MENTION]

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Simple answer is Past history or Track Record. Do this exercise: make a list of all major communal incidents that have happened since 1947 and let me know if it was Hindus or Muslims that were the instigators (according to you).

you can also do this thought exercise: Do other minority groups like Sikhs, Christians, Parsis etc get similarly blamed for anything bad that happens?

Not saying that this sort of blame game is the right thing to do ... but at the same time you cannot lay the blame entirely on one party.

This is generally the tactics of Indians on these issues.

Throw mud on muslims and then backtrack. Somehow you have managed to achieve this in the space of 2 sentences.

You must have receieved advanced bjp bot training.

 

[uppercut]

and yet you came up with the past history of muslims comment,

In the context of "Why is hindu vs muslim still a thing in secular India?" ... there is a reason why I even highlighted that entire sentence in my response. This is "the topic" that I was referring to ... What part of that do you not understand ?

thus, it indicates you would have had suspicions had that been a mosque.

Thats entirely the result of your fertile imagination driven by victim mentality. Not my problem.

 

[Major]

In the context of "Why is hindu vs muslim still a thing in secular India?" ... there is a reason why I even highlighted that entire sentence in my response. This is "the topic" that I was referring to ... What part of that do you not understand ?



Thats entirely the result of your fertile imagination driven by victim mentality. Not my problem.

yet you justified the hindu muslim communalism based on historical events.

How am i driven by victim mentality? I am not an Indian, thank god.

 

[uppercut]

yet you justified the hindu muslim communalism based on historical events.

Explain where this justification happened according to you. Quote my post and an explanation as to why you construe it to be a justification.

How am i driven by victim mentality? I am not an Indian, thank god.

Muslim victim mentality. Again this is a result of your poor understanding at the context in which iam responding and how you are completely missing the point.

 

[Major]

Simple answer is Past history or Track Record. Do this exercise: make a list of all major communal incidents that have happened since 1947 and let me know if it was Hindus or Muslims that were the instigators (according to you).

you can also do this thought exercise: Do other minority groups like Sikhs, Christians, Parsis etc get similarly blamed for anything bad that happens?

Not saying that this sort of blame game is the right thing to do ... but at the same time you cannot lay the blame entirely on one party.

Here is the post where you justify it indirectly.

 

[uppercut]

Here is the post where you justify it indirectly.

How does that amount to justification ? Hint: read the sentence just prior to it.

 

[Major]

This news was reported in more places aswell
https://scroll.in/article/1050311/even-a-train-tragedy-in-india-is-being-blamed-on-muslims-online

 

[smkk]

An imaginary Muslim station master were created and blamed for this accident.

 

[Devadwal]

On the night of May 31, 2025, a potential train sabotage was narrowly averted near Shamli, Uttar Pradesh. Around 10:30 PM, miscreants placed a 10-foot-long iron pipe on the railway tracks, aiming to derail an approaching passenger train. The alertness of the loco pilot, who spotted the obstruction and applied emergency brakes, prevented a major tragedy. The Railway Protection Force (RPF), Government Railway Police (GRP), and local police promptly arrived at the scene, and an investigation is currently underway.

This incident is part of a concerning pattern of sabotage attempts targeting India’s railway network. In September 2024, a 6-meter-long iron rod was discovered on the tracks between Bilaspur Road and Rudrapur City in Uttarakhand, which was removed in time to prevent an accident . Similarly, in Punjab, nine iron rods were found on the Delhi-Bathinda Express tracks, indicating a deliberate attempt to derail the train . The Indian Railways has reported multiple such incidents in recent months, prompting increased vigilance and investigations into potential sabotage activities .

Authorities are intensifying efforts to enhance railway security and prevent such sabotage attempts in the future.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1929072418179407974