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IPL franchise owners openly being allowed to discriminate in non-Indian leagues?

RedwoodOriginal said:
Are you daft? The Three Lions have been associated with England since the 12th century. They were first adopted by King Richard I (Richard the Lionheart) in the late 1100s as part of the Royal Arms of England.
The emblem has remained a national symbol ever since.

Elephants on the other hand, are historically rooted in South and Southeast Asia and parts of Africa - symbols of royalty, warfare, and religion there - but they have no historical or heraldic connection to England whatsoever.
If you’re ignorant of history, just say that instead of talking about zoos and Coventry City lmao.
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So even back then someone made a tenuous connection and only history has cemented it.
 
Unless the ECB introduce some kind of affirmative action for Pak players, there is no way for them to actually ensure an Indian owner bids for a Pak player. The Brits can spout the usual lip service in public while continuing their proud national tradition of printing money and being institutionally discriminatory.

I don't even know who the teams are, who the owners are, this just seems the obvious conclusion to draw from what seems like PR drama.
 
pillionrider said:
Unless the ECB introduce some kind of affirmative action for Pak players, there is no way for them to actually ensure an Indian owner bids for a Pak player. The Brits can spout the usual lip service in public while continuing their proud national tradition of printing money and being institutionally discriminatory.

I don't even know who the teams are, who the owners are, this just seems the obvious conclusion to draw from what seems like PR drama.
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So, Indian owners can tell their coaches+management to not bid for Pakistani players in UK?
 
Rana said:
So, Indian owners can tell their coaches+management to not bid for Pakistani players in UK?
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The issue I'm pointing out is not the morality of it but the practicality. Yes, they can do that and as I said, unless the ECB introduces a rule that specifies that every team must have at least one Pakistani player or something like that, there is no way to stop such a diktat. Honestly don't see the ECB doing such a thing because I don't think they care that much.
 
pillionrider said:
The issue I'm pointing out is not the morality of it but the practicality. Yes, they can do that and as I said, unless the ECB introduces a rule that specifies that every team must have at least one Pakistani player or something like that, there is no way to stop such a diktat. Honestly don't see the ECB doing such a thing because I don't think they care that much.
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Seedhi baat kar.

Can Indian owners tell their management to not bid for Pakistanis in UK.

Answer the question.
 
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Varun said:
So basically you're putting all your faith behind the British Government for this mickey mouse tournament.

Something tells me you're going to be disappointed as per usual.
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British law and order.

Something tells me you are not well verse with this
 
pillionrider said:
Unless the ECB introduce some kind of affirmative action for Pak players, there is no way for them to actually ensure an Indian owner bids for a Pak player. The Brits can spout the usual lip service in public while continuing their proud national tradition of printing money and being institutionally discriminatory.

I don't even know who the teams are, who the owners are, this just seems the obvious conclusion to draw from what seems like PR drama.
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There you go. It didnt even take a few days for an indiot to come out crying about discrimination.
 
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A professional governing body in a professional sport would have outlawed something like this. There is very little you can do when the entire institution is virtually controlled by the same entity that is doing this. Everyone else is a slave to this machine
 
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GudduBadmash said:
A professional governing body in a professional sport would have outlawed something like this. There is very little you can do when the entire institution is virtually controlled by the same entity that is doing this. Everyone else is a slave to this machine
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Oh please, gimme a break. Wimbledon banned Russian players while ITA watched and twiddled their thumbs
 
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rpant_gabba said:
Oh le

Oh please, gimme a break. Wimbledon banned Russian players while ITA watched and twiddled their thumbs
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The tournament was stripped of all ranking status and the organisers fined.
 
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HitWicket said:
The tournament was stripped of all ranking status and the organisers fined.
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and they carried on.

Brits had no issues carrying the ban in the first place and so they don't have leg to stand on.

they welcome to drag this to court. I have my popcorn ready
 
HitWicket said:
The tournament was stripped of all ranking status and the organisers fined.
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  • Conditions for Entry: Players must sign personal declarations of neutrality. They cannot express support for the Russian invasion of Ukraine, nor can they receive funding or sponsorship from the Russian or Belarusian states.
 
rpant_gabba said:
and they carried on.

Brits had no issues carrying the ban in the first place and so they don't have leg to stand on.

they welcome to drag this to court. I have my popcorn ready
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Except they didn't do they. The policy was scrapped after 1 edition of the tournament amid punishments, very mixed reactions and the threat of potential legal challenges.

Added to this Wimbledon is very different from franchise teams when it comes to the equality act given tennis players aren't employees of Wimbledon, like cricket players are of their Hundred team.
 
Haven’t read the thread, but is there a reason why anyone would want to personally defend private entities not selecting players from a certain country? It’s discrimination
 
Rana said:
Zyada chawlain na maar. Seedhi baat kar.

Can Indian owners tell their management to not bid for Pakistanis in UK.

Answer the question.
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Yes they can. Actually they don’t need to 😁. Management is smart enough to know this basic thing. Also, as far as I know, owners themselves bid for the players.
 
BreadPakoda said:
Haven’t read the thread, but is there a reason why anyone would want to personally defend private entities not selecting players from a certain country? It’s discrimination
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Good to see a Pak players picked by an Indian franchise.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
:kp:klopp
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I'm actually pleasantly surprised the Sunrisers dared to risk it. I suppose they're hoping he's a low profile player and the Indian media won't make a big deal of it.

I hope Abrar has thoroughly scrubbed his social media accounts. If one anti-India post is dug out from anywhere, the media will use it to term the Marans will never heard the end of being called Deshdrohi and being utterly cancelled.
 
Red-Indian said:
I'm actually pleasantly surprised the Sunrisers dared to risk it. I suppose they're hoping he's a low profile player and the Indian media won't make a big deal of it.

I hope Abrar has thoroughly scrubbed his social media accounts. If one anti-India post is dug out from anywhere, the media will use it to term the Marans will never heard the end of being called Deshdrohi and being utterly cancelled.
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I think they are just counting on the fact most Indians won't be watching The Hundred at all.

It's a risk but if this goes through, then we can slowly see Indian owned franchises increasingly picking up Pakistani players in ILT20 and SA20 as well.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
I think they are just counting on the fact most Indians won't be watching The Hundred at all.

It's a risk but if this goes through, then we can slowly see Indian owned franchises increasingly picking up Pakistani players in ILT20 and SA20 as well.
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lol it has to go through now. If they release him, the independent regulator will come down hard on the competition.
 
Rana said:
lol it has to go through now. If they release him, the independent regulator will come down hard on the competition.
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I didn't mean legally go through. I meant go through without too much backlash from Indian audiences
 
Rana said:
lol it has to go through now. If they release him, the independent regulator will come down hard on the competition.
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Yeah they've taken the risk. Good for them. They do have some backing in that they have close connections with an opposition party.

They'll get a lot of right wing idiots hounding them but if it can't be proven Abrar's made any anti-India statements, I think it should die down.
 
Red-Indian said:
Yeah they've taken the risk. Good for them. They do have some backing in that they have close connections with an opposition party.

They'll get a lot of right wing idiots hounding them but if it can't be proven Abrar's made any anti-India statements, I think it should die down.
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He’s made no anti India statements

Abrar isn’t a hateful guy. He does the tea cup thing as banter, and I’m pretty sure Indian players do it back to him for fun. They also make fun of his head nod out of fun, not malice.
 
I think this is all rather encouraging.
As I’ve said before, the U.K. is the most successful multicultural society in the world. Whilst that may be a low bar, given what occurs in many parts of the world, it is still something that should be celebrated.
As such, rivalries based in other parts of the world have no place here.
 
Red-Indian said:
I'm actually pleasantly surprised the Sunrisers dared to risk it. I suppose they're hoping he's a low profile player and the Indian media won't make a big deal of it.

I hope Abrar has thoroughly scrubbed his social media accounts. If one anti-India post is dug out from anywhere, the media will use it to term the Marans will never heard the end of being called Deshdrohi and being utterly cancelled.
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If India is the world's largest democracy and free country, why can't they allow Pakistani players to freely express their views and not threaten punishment?
 
Savak said:
If India is the world's largest democracy and free country, why can't they allow Pakistani players to freely express their views and not threaten punishment?
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I think you're mistaking freedom for sainthood.

If Abrar hates India (I hope he doesn't), the Marans are free to pick him in their team but millions of Indians are also free to abuse and boycott them for doing so. It's a risk they have to take.

I expect they would've done their due diligence and checked his social media and interview history.
 
Red-Indian said:
I think you're mistaking freedom for sainthood.

If Abrar hates India (I hope he doesn't), the Marans are free to pick him in their team but millions of Indians are also free to abuse and boycott them for doing so. It's a risk they have to take.

I expect they would've done their due diligence and checked his social media and interview history.
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Why don't the millions of Indians adopt the attitude "Lets win Abrar over with our love, politness, hospitality, kindness vs relentless trolling, abuse, boycott which will only make Abrar hate them more?"
 
Savak said:
Why don't the millions of Indians adopt the attitude "Lets win Abrar over with our love, politness, hospitality, kindness vs relentless trolling, abuse, boycott which will only make Abrar hate them more?"
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Ah I see you have a lot of love and respect for India and have the fond impression everyone over here is a reincarnation of the Mahatma.
 
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Savak said:
Why don't the millions of Indians adopt the attitude "Lets win Abrar over with our love, politness, hospitality, kindness vs relentless trolling, abuse, boycott which will only make Abrar hate them more?"
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Bhai aap kaun si duniya mein rahte hain? The world, countries, people, and ground truth are a lot more complicated than this.
 
Red-Indian said:
I think you're mistaking freedom for sainthood.

If Abrar hates India (I hope he doesn't), the Marans are free to pick him in their team but millions of Indians are also free to abuse and boycott them for doing so. It's a risk they have to take.

I expect they would've done their due diligence and checked his social media and interview history.
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I think this is fair. You can’t be openly hostile to any country and then expect to be embraced in a cocoon of love and forgiveness by those there.
 
Savak said:
Why don't the millions of Indians adopt the attitude "Lets win Abrar over with our love, politness, hospitality, kindness vs relentless trolling, abuse, boycott which will only make Abrar hate them more?"
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What? Do you think Vajpayee and Indians from 1999-2008 didn’t try that?

Pak cricketers used to get highest cheer once upon a time in India..
 
JaDed said:
What? Do you think Vajpayee and Indians from 1999-2008 didn’t try that?

Pak cricketers used to get highest cheer once upon a time in India..
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Indian cricketers also received the same love in Pakistan in 2004, 2006 and 2008
 
JaDed said:
What? Do you think Vajpayee and Indians from 1999-2008 didn’t try that?

Pak cricketers used to get highest cheer once upon a time in India..
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Your last lit is a half truth, some Pakistani players like Imran khan, wasim akram were very popular in India, but that phenomenon ended with their retirement
 
cricketjoshila said:
Your last lit is a half truth, some Pakistani players like Imran khan, wasim akram were very popular in India, but that phenomenon ended with their retirement
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Wasim is still very popular in India I’d think, but not sure about the younger generation.

Something about that guy, charisma maybe
 
Cryin Out Loud said:
Wasim is still very popular in India I’d think, but not sure about the younger generation.

Something about that guy, charisma maybe
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Also always politically correct. He was Imran’s fav disciple and he still has lucrative deals with PCB. Make whatever of that. I don’t mean it in a negative way but admirable quality to stay away from all the political rhetoric.
 
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