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Iran confirms supreme leader Khamenei is dead after US, Israeli attacks [Update@ Post 563]

How will Iran react to the attack from Israel?

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This war will not end as quickly as they wanted. Look at Hezbollah. Israel kept bombing them and thought Hezbollah was history, and now Hezbollah is firing rockets towards them.

And here you have Iran, Worlds 18th biggest country are wise and with a population of 90+ millions. This just does not look right, the attackers have miscalculated here.
 
IAJ said:
This war will not end as quickly as they wanted. Look at Hezbollah. Israel kept bombing them and thought Hezbollah was history, and now Hezbollah is firing rockets towards them.

And here you have Iran, Worlds 18th biggest country are wise and with a population of 90+ millions. This just does not look right, the attackers have miscalculated here.
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Yup.

Will Houthis join too? Let's see.
 
Varun said:
#ConspiracyTheory

Do you think the Ayatollah 'planned' his death like Dumbledore? He was 86 with not many more years left in the tank, so he made himself a ripe target to be taken out so the Israelis/Americans can claim victory and take it easy - while the 'real' attack will follow in a few days time by a younger, next-gen leader?
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I do wonder how many of these so called KIA high profilers are actually done and dusted and how many are chilling with a Hawaiian shirt on some island.
 

More than 100,000 Britons register for help in Middle East​


A total of 102,000 Britons have registered their presence in the Middle East with the UK government, as Iranian strikes continue across the region.

Foreign Secretary Yvette Cooper told the BBC there were an estimated 300,000 British citizens in Gulf countries, where much of the airspace is closed.

She said many of those trapped were holidaymakers, passengers transiting through or people on business visits.

Foreign Office sources said no evacuation was imminent but the government was preparing for potential scenarios if commercial flights remained grounded.

British nationals in Bahrain, Israel, Kuwait, Palestine, Qatar and United Arab Emirates have been urged to register their presence to receive updates from the Foreign Office.

The government has previously used registration schemes to provide urgent updates to people affected by international crises but the number of people and countries affected in this case is unprecedented.

Cooper told BBC Breakfast the situation was "deeply stressful" for those affected.

She urged people to follow local advice, which in most countries was to shelter in place.

Asked if the government was planning to launch an evacuation, Cooper said: "We are in close contact, for example, with the travel industry, with airline companies and airports and also with the governments in the region."

She added: "But we will need to provide updates for people as we go along... That's why we're encouraging people to register their presence so we know where they are so we can get information to them swiftly."

Cooper said that in previous similar situations the government had wanted to work with airline companies so people could fly home in the normal way.

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More than 100,000 Britons register for help in Middle East

Foreign Office sources say no evacuation was imminent but the government is preparing for potential scenarios.
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UK will allow US to use bases to strike Iranian missile sites, PM says​


The UK has agreed to a US request to use British military bases for "defensive" strikes on Iranian missile sites, Sir Keir Starmer has said.

But the prime minister said the UK had learned lessons from the "mistakes of Iraq", and was not involved in the initial strikes on Iran and "will not join offensive action now".

The BBC understands the US is likely to use RAF Fairford in Gloucestershire and Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean for strikes on Iranian missile sites.

The PM made the announcement just hours before a British RAF base in Cyprus was hit by a drone strike on Sunday night with no casualties reported. Investigations are under way to establish where it was fired from.

The attack at RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus took place at around midnight local time (22:00 GMT) with the MoD later saying that "minimal damage" was caused.

In a video statement released earlier on Sunday, Sir Keir said the basis of the decision to accept the US request was the "collective self-defence" of allies and protecting British lives, accusing Iran of pursuing a "scorched-earth strategy".

The prime minister added the US would use UK bases for the "specific and limited defensive purpose" of destroying Iran's missiles "at source".

He added that the move was in accordance with international law, and the UK government had published what it said was a summary of its legal advice.

Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch accused the government of being "too scared" to take a stronger stance against Iran because some Labour voters were "swayed by conflicts in the Middle East, not the British national interest".

"So we watch our prime minister and cabinet ministers squirm and obfuscate in interviews, because they cannot say what needs to be said because too many of their voters do not want to hear it."

Liberal Democrat leader Sir Ed Davey said "the UK must not be complicit in illegal military action" and demanded that MPs be given a say on allowing the US to use British bases.

It was reported last month that the British government had not given permission for the US to use UK military bases to support any potential US strikes on Iran.

US President Donald Trump said it "may be necessary" for the US to use RAF Fairford and Diego Garcia for operations should Iran "decide not to make a deal".

Both bases have been used by the US in the past to conduct long-range heavy bombing missions.

Reform UK leader Nigel Farage said the decision to let the US use UK military bases was "better late than never" and described Sir Keir as "a follower, not a leader".

Green Party leader Zack Polanski condemned the move, saying Sir Keir had jumped into "yet another Middle East illegal war".

The US and Israel began attacking Iran early on Saturday, with Trump encouraging the Iranian people to remove the country's government.

The Iranian regime has responded with attacks on US assets and countries in the region with a US military presence, including Bahrain, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait and Iraq.

Sir Keir had said UK aircraft were "in the sky" in the Middle East as part of a defensive operation to protect its allies and citizens in the region, but said the UK "played no role" in the strikes.

On Sunday, he said British aircraft had successfully intercepted Iranian strikes, but added: "Our partners in the Gulf have asked us to do more to defend them and it's my duty to protect British lives."

He began the statement by saying it "remains the case" that the UK is "not involved in the strikes on Iran".

At least 200,000 British citizens are in the region - including residents, those on holidays and passengers in transit, Sir Keir said - and the government "will continue to do all we can to support" them.

British people, including members of the armed forces, as well as allies, were being put at "huge risk" from Iranian strikes, he said, accusing the regime of "becoming even more reckless".

Iranian strikes have "hit airports and hotels where British citizens are staying", and on Saturday "hit a military base in Bahrain, narrowly missing British personnel", Sir Keir said.

He added: "The only way to stop the threat is to destroy the missiles at source, in their storage depots, or the launchers which are used to fire the missiles.

"The United States has requested permission to use British bases for that specific and limited defensive purpose.

"We have taken the decision to accept this request to prevent Iran firing missiles across the region, killing innocent civilians, putting British lives at risk, and hitting countries that have not been involved."

The Foreign Office has asked British nationals in Bahrain, Israel, Kuwait, the Palestinian territories, Qatar and UAE to register their presence to receive updates.

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UK will allow US to use bases to strike Iranian missile sites, says Starmer

The prime minister says it remains the case that the UK will "not join offensive action now".
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Suleiman said:
Killed in action. But wrong term i guess as not many of these men are out there in action, just sitting behind doors giving orders
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Israel's supposedly decimated the entire leadership structure of the Iranian armed forces as well as the Revolutionary Guard.

You're right that it's quite likely a couple of more have quietly used the opportunity to slip out of the country. It's virtually been a death sentence being a nuclear physics or missile scientist or a top military officials in Iran over the last decade.
 
Red-Indian said:
Israel's supposedly decimated the entire leadership structure of the Iranian armed forces as well as the Revolutionary Guard.

You're right that it's quite likely a couple of more have quietly used the opportunity to slip out of the country. It's virtually been a death sentence being a nuclear physics or missile scientist or a top military officials in Iran over the last decade.
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Iran got a new ayatollah. Also, they are now retaliating. They are not bogged down.

Seems like Israel taking out a bunch of leaders didn't have the desired affect.
 
Pakistan leadership may declare Iran as "winner" of ongoing war in social media to calm down its awam..... this move will prevent its awam to doing attacks on US embassies and consulates
 
Red-Indian said:
Israel's supposedly decimated the entire leadership structure of the Iranian armed forces as well as the Revolutionary Guard.

You're right that it's quite likely a couple of more have quietly used the opportunity to slip out of the country. It's virtually been a death sentence being a nuclear physics or missile scientist or a top military officials in Iran over the last decade.
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It could also be a double bluff from Iranians.
 
IronShield said:
It could also be a double bluff from Iranians.
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Could be but Israeli intelligence seems to have utterly penetrated Iran in the last few years.

Some of the attacks have been incredibly precise. Haniyeh is an example but even the way Fakhrizadeh was taken out (a sniper machine gun on the back of a pickup truck) - crazy stories.
 
Ultimately, no one is willing to commit boots on ground in Iran and are hoping the populations rises up and topples the regime. Making Iranians sacrificial lambs to achieve geo political aims. This does not seem to be happening.

Iran is now unrestrained, it now has clarity in what it has to achieve and from what I can see is that they are going after the logistics in how US is able to keep its presence in the area.

The ease at which Iran has been able to attack bases in the gulf and other targets has been a surprise to everyone, and this is without hypersonic missiles.

Possibility of widespread guerrilla conflict all over the region, especially in Iraq, the US may have to vacate Iraq in a hurry. The Kurds coming under increasing pressure from Iraqis and Turks and losing their autonomy.

Azerbaijan getting its energy infrastructure attacked by Iranian drones and missiles. This will have direct impact on Israeli economy. I suppose this is the reason why Modi was in Israel, they will step in to provide Russian oil from its refineries.
 
Despite US and Israel's war against Iran and after killing Khomeini.... why Xi Jinping, Kim Jong Un etc are quite? They may speak against US, but not against Israel because Israel have mastery of killing leaders in their den
 
IronShield said:
Ultimately, no one is willing to commit boots on ground in Iran and are hoping the populations rises up and topples the regime. Making Iranians sacrificial lambs to achieve geo political aims. This does not seem to be happening.

Iran is now unrestrained, it now has clarity in what it has to achieve and from what I can see is that they are going after the logistics in how US is able to keep its presence in the area.

The ease at which Iran has been able to attack bases in the gulf and other targets has been a surprise to everyone, and this is without hypersonic missiles.

Possibility of widespread guerrilla conflict all over the region, especially in Iraq, the US may have to vacate Iraq in a hurry. The Kurds coming under increasing pressure from Iraqis and Turks and losing their autonomy.

Azerbaijan getting its energy infrastructure attacked by Iranian drones and missiles. This will have direct impact on Israeli economy. I suppose this is the reason why Modi was in Israel, they will step in to provide Russian oil from its refineries.
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It's because they all knew they will be crucified on Ground. So they will never dare for such a venture yet.
 
Red-Indian said:
Could be but Israeli intelligence seems to have utterly penetrated Iran in the last few years.

Some of the attacks have been incredibly precise. Haniyeh is an example but even the way Fakhrizadeh was taken out (a sniper machine gun on the back of a pickup truck) - crazy stories.
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True. But Iranians will also have learnt from this.

The recent "uprising" in Iran had lot of their assets killed too.
 
sweep_shot said:
Israel is getting smashed from Iranian missiles. Also, Hezbollah joined.

Israel is under the pump I guess.
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Israel nahi , Muslim Ummah along with USA bases in gulf countries are getting hit.

I really hope Iran has better defence system. They are using junk Chinese defence systems who is unable to protect Iran specially Tehran. .

Pakistan, Venezuela and now Iran, why Chinese weapons keep failing. Excellent analysis.
timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Pakistan, Venezuela & now Iran: Why Chinese-made weapons keep failing - The Times of India

International News: Chinese-manufactured weaponry — long touted as cheaper but equally powerful alternative to Western arsenals — has imploded spectacularly in recent con.
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:klopp :kp
 
globetrotter said:
Pakistan leadership may declare Iran as "winner" of ongoing war in social media to calm down its awam..... this move will prevent its awam to doing attacks on US embassies and consulates
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We don’t need to wait until the war ends. Jihadis have already declared the winner.
Israel and the US have suffered, and Iran has won the war. Ayatollah Khamenei will come out of his grave and take the oath next week.
 
Red-Indian said:
Could be but Israeli intelligence seems to have utterly penetrated Iran in the last few years.

Some of the attacks have been incredibly precise. Haniyeh is an example but even the way Fakhrizadeh was taken out (a sniper machine gun on the back of a pickup truck) - crazy stories.
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Yes ....but not now if you goes through mossad's activities in last 6-7 decades, they are masters of penetrating anything.... nothing is impossible for them. This why Xi Jinping and Kim Jong are quite
 
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Cover Drive Six said:
We don’t need to wait until the war ends. Jihadis have already declared the winner.
Israel and the US have suffered, and Iran has won the war. Ayatollah Khamenei will come out of his grave and take the oath next week.
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Only a warped Balht would say this.

But it is no surprise when you spend all day listening to how Karachi and Lahore port had been destroyed last May.
 
Devadwal said:
China bhut bada superpower banta hai but buzdili ki Treh chupa batha hai :klopp :ko
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Indians as always underestimating China. Firstly this is not China's war. Secondly China is slowly and patiently building up it's power and when they actually have to fight you will see that.

Indians kou to unhon nay ghar banay weapons say phainta lagaya tha 2020 main, tum loug to baat hi na karo behtar hai.
 
IAJ said:
Indians as always underestimating China. Firstly this is not China's war. Secondly China is slowly and patiently building up it's power and when they actually have to fight you will see that.

Indians kou to unhon nay ghar banay weapons say phainta lagaya tha 2020 main, tum loug to baat hi na karo behtar hai.
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Jake china se puchna kitne Chinese mare the 43. Uske bad line pe aa gye. .

:klopp :kp
 
IAJ said:
Indians as always underestimating China. Firstly this is not China's war. Secondly China is slowly and patiently building up it's power and when they actually have to fight you will see that.

Indians kou to unhon nay ghar banay weapons say phainta lagaya tha 2020 main, tum loug to baat hi na karo behtar hai.
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They have unhealthy obsessions. Why should China intervene, it will fight if and when at a time of its choosing.

Seems like Indians are more concerned about when China should enter war to protect its image :LOL:

Why isnt India getting involved, it has investments to protect in Iran... no? Or have the Americans blown away their investment in Chabahar already.
 

Pentagon tells Congress no intelligence showed Iran was preparing to strike before US attack​


Trump administration officials acknowledged in closed-door briefings with congressional staff on Sunday that there was no intelligence suggesting Iran planned to attack US forces first, two people familiar with the matter said.

The United States and Israel launched their most extreme attacks on Iran in decades on Saturday, killing Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, sinking Iranian warships and hitting more than 1,000 targets so far, officials say.

But Sunday's remarks to Congress appeared to undercut one of the key arguments for the war made by senior administration officials.

They told reporters the day before that President Donald Trump decided to launch the attacks in part because of indicators that Iranians might strike US forces in the Middle East "perhaps preemptively."

Trump, one of the officials said, was not going to "sit back and allow American forces in the region to absorb attacks."

Pentagon officials briefed Democratic and Republican staff of several national security committees in both the Senate and the House of Representatives for more than 90 minutes on the unfolding US attack in Iran, White House spokesperson Dylan Johnson said earlier.

In the briefings, administration officials emphasised that Iran's ballistic missiles and proxy forces in the region posed an imminent threat to US interests, but there was no intelligence about Tehran attacking US forces first, the two sources, speaking on condition of anonymity, told Reuters.

Trump said the attack, which is expected to run for weeks, aimed to ensure Iran could not have a nuclear weapon, contain its missile programme and eliminate threats to the United States and its allies.

He has urged Iranians to rise up and topple the government.


Democrats criticise ‘war of choice’

Democrats have accused Trump of waging a war of choice and have taken aim at his arguments for abandoning peace talks that mediator Oman said still held promise.

Trump has argued, without presenting evidence, that Iran was on track to soon secure the ability to strike the United States with a ballistic missile.

His missile claim was not backed by US intelligence reports, and appeared to be exaggerated, sources familiar with the reports have told Reuters.

Questions about the justification for the war come as the US military revealed on Sunday the first American casualties of the conflict.


Three US troops killed

Three US troops were killed and five wounded, US Central Command said on Sunday, adding that several other US troops suffered minor shrapnel injuries and concussions.

US aircraft and warships have struck more than 1,000 Iranian targets since Trump ordered the start of the offensive, the military said.

The strikes include B-2 stealth bombers dropping 2,000-lb (900-kg) bombs on hardened, underground Iranian missile facilities.

A Reuters/Ipsos poll on Sunday showed 27 percent of Americans approved of the strikes, while 43 percent disapproved and 29 percent were not sure.

Source: TRT World
 
IronShield said:
They have unhealthy obsessions. Why should China intervene, it will fight if and when at a time of its choosing.

Seems like Indians are more concerned about when China should enter war to protect its image :LOL:

Why isnt India getting involved, it has investments to protect in Iran... no? Or have the Americans blown away their investment in Chabahar already.
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China , USA, UK, France in sabne Pakistan ko bhi dhoka diya tha 1971. ... Sabne bola hum sath hai Pakistan ke.

But india - Russia signed a treaty ( Indo-Soviet Treaty of Friendship on 9th August 1971) prior to the 71 war and Russia send the nuclear sumbirme and other careers to Stop USA and UK. ..sab ke sab dum daba ke bhaag gye.

:klopp :kp
 
Greece to deploy multiple warships, fighters to Cyprus after Iranian attacks.

Two Hellenic Navy frigates will be sent: one, the brand-new French-built FDI HN frigate HS Kimon (F-601).

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If Russia and China Joined this war in the support of Iran then no one can Stop World war 3 .

But Russia is fighting own war so they don't care about anyone's and China is coward so forget about it

:kp
 
Random question to our Muslim friends: for peoples living in these countries facing such uncertain days, is fasting 'suspended' for the duration of the conflict?
 
QatarEnergy says that it will stop all natural gas production following Iranian drone attacks on its facilities.

The company, Qatar’s state-owned oil and gas enterprise, is responsible for nearly 20% of global LNG exports.

:kp
 
Varun said:
Random question to our Muslim friends: for peoples living in these countries facing such uncertain days, is fasting 'suspended' for the duration of the conflict?
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Tumko fasting ki padi hai ..vha wo missiles attacks se bach rahe hai. ... Fasting important hai ya apni Life ? :kp
 
Devadwal said:
Greece to deploy multiple warships, fighters to Cyprus after Iranian attacks.

Two Hellenic Navy frigates will be sent: one, the brand-new French-built FDI HN frigate HS Kimon (F-601).

www.protothema.gr

Live του protothema από την Κύπρο και το Ισραήλ - Σπεύδουν δύο ελληνικές φρεγάτες και ζεύγος F-16 μετά τη δεύτερη επίθεση με drone στο Ακρωτήρι

Οι φρεγάτες Κίμων και Ψαρά εν πλω προς Κύπρο - «Αντιμετωπίσαμε δύο drone στη βρετανική βάση στο Ακρωτήρι» λέει ο κυβερνητικός εκπρόσωπος της Κύπρου - Δείτε live εικόνα από Βηρυτό, Τελ Αβίβ και Ιερουσαλήμ
www.protothema.gr www.protothema.gr

If Russia and China Joined this war in the support of Iran then no one can Stop World war 3 .

But Russia is fighting own war so they don't care about anyone's and China is coward so forget about it

:kp
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China has defined it's sphere of influence very narrowly and I think will only act it that is threatened - North Korea, Myanmar, Laos, Vietnam, Taiwan. Everywhere else is only transactional.

Under Trump, the US seems to have decided that more than half the world is in it's sphere of influence - essentially the entire Western Hemisphere plus the Middle-East.

I wonder how long they'll able to sustain this extended influence. Yes the US has the most formidable military-industrial complex in the history of the world but even that has some limits.

Also, I wonder how they'll roll this back when Trump eventually leaves and what will be the impact of that rollback. The power vacuum will be massive.
 
IAJ said:
Indians as always underestimating China. Firstly this is not China's war. Secondly China is slowly and patiently building up it's power and when they actually have to fight you will see that.

Indians kou to unhon nay ghar banay weapons say phainta lagaya tha 2020 main, tum loug to baat hi na karo behtar hai.
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There is no guts remains in China due to recession, US tarrif and failures of its weaponry in recent war.

Taiwan is tough for China on other hand US hijacked Venezuelan president, even captured Chinese oil vessels.... China only saying meow meow 😻
 
Varun said:
Random question to our Muslim friends: for peoples living in these countries facing such uncertain days, is fasting 'suspended' for the duration of the conflict?
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The gulf countries, nah.

Iran, possibly you can suspend it
 
Red-Indian said:
China has defined it's sphere of influence very narrowly and I think will only act it that is threatened - North Korea, Myanmar, Laos, Vietnam, Taiwan. Everywhere else is only transactional.

Under Trump, the US seems to have decided that more than half the world is in it's sphere of influence - essentially the entire Western Hemisphere plus the Middle-East.

I wonder how long they'll able to sustain this extended influence. Yes the US has the most formidable military-industrial complex in the history of the world but even that has some limits.

Also, I wonder how they'll roll this back when Trump eventually leaves and what will be the impact of that rollback. The power vacuum will be massive.
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What lesson These gulf nations learnt from this war ??

Gulf Confronts A Hard Truth: Hosting US Bases Won't Guarantee US Protection

That Iran is attacking bases and other sites in the UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia - even Oman - has caused disillusionment in these countries, which thought that they were protected by the US but are slowly realising they're not.

As I said earlier, after this war they will spend a lot of money to buy defense systems.

We are fortunate to have the world's one of the best defense systems for intercepting missiles and drones. We saw this during Operation Sindoor.

:kp
 

Saudi Arabia denies lobbying Trump for Iran strikes​


Saudi Arabia has denied allegations that it lobbied US President Donald Trump to carry out military strikes against Iran, dismissing recent media reports as false, the Saudi Gazette reported on Monday.

Fahad Nazer, spokesperson for the Saudi Embassy in Washington, said the kingdom has consistently backed diplomatic efforts aimed at securing a credible agreement with Tehran.

“The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has been consistent in supporting diplomatic efforts to reach a credible deal with Iran,” Nazer said in a statement posted on social media. “At no point in all our communication with the Trump administration did we lobby the president to adopt a different policy.”

Nazer’s comments came in response to a report by The Washington Post, which cited four people familiar with the matter as saying President Trump authorised strikes on Iran following weeks of lobbying by Israel and Saudi Arabia.

The report added that US intelligence assessments found no imminent threat, but that regional allies advocated for military action.

Saudi Arabia reiterated its long-standing position in favour of dialogue and diplomatic solutions to regional tensions, rejecting claims that it encouraged a shift toward direct military confrontation.

The kingdom has repeatedly called for de-escalation and a political resolution to disputes involving Iran, emphasizing regional stability and security.

Source: The Express Tribune
 
Since the start of the operation against Iran, the IDF says it has destroyed some 600 Iranian regime sites in airstrikes.

They include 20 sites belonging to Iran's security leadership, 150 ballistic missiles and launchers, and 200 air defense systems, according to the military.

Israeli Air Force aircraft have dropped over 2,500 bombs as part of the strikes, the IDF says.

:kp

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