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Iran confirms supreme leader Khamenei is dead after US, Israeli attacks [Update@ Post 563]

How will Iran react to the attack from Israel?


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So as per Trump mission accomplished

Nice to wake up to better news. Both sides are making conciliatory noises.

- Trump's been toning down. From 'only total surrender' to 'ending soon' to 'very complete'. He's stopped demanding regime change as well

- Iran's been using the right language as well. No hawkish conditions - reparations or 'we'll restart our nuclear program' etc. They've more or less indicated they'll swallow the assassination of their supreme leader and destruction of most of their infrastructure as long as they get a ceasefire.

China and Russia are stepping in to give both sides a face saving opportunity to exit. I think it'll hinge on a couple of things

- Do Israel believe they've destroyed the nuclear and missile programs or at least set them back 5 years or so? They won't stop without that.
- Can some kind of deal be reached on control of the Straits - say a multinational naval force including let's say a couple of Russian and Chinese ships for appearance sake?
 
Nice to wake up to better news. Both sides are making conciliatory noises.

- Trump's been toning down. From 'only total surrender' to 'ending soon' to 'very complete'. He's stopped demanding regime change as well

- Iran's been using the right language as well. No hawkish conditions - reparations or 'we'll restart our nuclear program' etc. They've more or less indicated they'll swallow the assassination of their supreme leader and destruction of most of their infrastructure as long as they get a ceasefire.

China and Russia are stepping in to give both sides a face saving opportunity to exit. I think it'll hinge on a couple of things

- Do Israel believe they've destroyed the nuclear and missile programs or at least set them back 5 years or so? They won't stop without that.
- Can some kind of deal be reached on control of the Straits - say a multinational naval force including let's say a couple of Russian and Chinese ships for appearance sake?
TRump says i'll get the control of Hermuz
 
Nice to wake up to better news. Both sides are making conciliatory noises.

- Trump's been toning down. From 'only total surrender' to 'ending soon' to 'very complete'. He's stopped demanding regime change as well

- Iran's been using the right language as well. No hawkish conditions - reparations or 'we'll restart our nuclear program' etc. They've more or less indicated they'll swallow the assassination of their supreme leader and destruction of most of their infrastructure as long as they get a ceasefire.

China and Russia are stepping in to give both sides a face saving opportunity to exit. I think it'll hinge on a couple of things

- Do Israel believe they've destroyed the nuclear and missile programs or at least set them back 5 years or so? They won't stop without that.
- Can some kind of deal be reached on control of the Straits - say a multinational naval force including let's say a couple of Russian and Chinese ships for appearance sake?
Some fair points but I think they are not ready to stop here, they were attacked twice and need to put a permanent end, not just a ceasefire. We also don't know the situation in Israel, by all accounts they are in a terrible position, so may lash out.
 
Seems like Trump/Israel underestimated Iran badly. :inti

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Israel says 13 killed, nearly 2,000 injured in Iranian attacks​

At least 13 Israelis have been killed and 1,929 others wounded in Iranian attacks on Israel since last week.

The Health Ministry said in a statement that 157 people were injured in Iranian strikes over the last 24 hours.

Some 112 people are still hospitalised, including nine in serious condition. The ministry urged Israelis to rush to bomb shelters “with caution”, noting that people have been injured while running to shelters.

Source: https://aje.news/64yl8m?update=4380049.
 
The war can end now.

Iran defeated US+Israel, alone.

Thank you very much for your attention to this matter.
 
TRump says i'll get the control of Hermuz
90% (being generous) of what he says is nonsense. I think we can safely discount. It would be too humiliating for Iran to give control of the Hormuz to the US.

At the minimum, they will need the fig leaf of a multinational force. US will provide the majority of the naval ships anyway.
 
Seems like Trump/Israel underestimated Iran badly. :inti

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Israel says 13 killed, nearly 2,000 injured in Iranian attacks​

At least 13 Israelis have been killed and 1,929 others wounded in Iranian attacks on Israel since last week.

The Health Ministry said in a statement that 157 people were injured in Iranian strikes over the last 24 hours.

Some 112 people are still hospitalised, including nine in serious condition. The ministry urged Israelis to rush to bomb shelters “with caution”, noting that people have been injured while running to shelters.

Source: https://aje.news/64yl8m?update=4380049.

Next time, don't be a mere spectator and be of help.
We could have had a huge advantage if your Naval forces agreed to deploy BNS Bokachoda.
 
Seems like Trump/Israel underestimated Iran badly. :inti

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Israel says 13 killed, nearly 2,000 injured in Iranian attacks​

At least 13 Israelis have been killed and 1,929 others wounded in Iranian attacks on Israel since last week.

The Health Ministry said in a statement that 157 people were injured in Iranian strikes over the last 24 hours.

Some 112 people are still hospitalised, including nine in serious condition. The ministry urged Israelis to rush to bomb shelters “with caution”, noting that people have been injured while running to shelters.

Source: https://aje.news/64yl8m?update=4380049.

I personally think real number is higher.

Also, they lost Billions of Dollars (possibly trillion) in infrastructure damage, Iron Dome etc. This is an expense for American taxpayers.

America/Israel scored a massive own goal.
 
Some fair points but I think they are not ready to stop here, they were attacked twice and need to put a permanent end, not just a ceasefire. We also don't know the situation in Israel, by all accounts they are in a terrible position, so may lash out.
They're not getting any permanent end. Israel is a paranoid State and they'll lash out every time they feel threatened irrespective of what they say now.

Iran's best bet is to swallow the bitter pill, take what they can get now and live to fight another day. They'll still to get to keep their dynastic dictator and maintain control. They can build up again and perhaps even buy a secret nuclear program from say, Pakistan or alternatively negotiate a nuclear umbrella from China in exchange for oil. That'll be their only real guarantee in the long term.
 
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