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Is a war between a Taliban based Afghanistan and Pakistan a possibility?

Bewal Express said:
True but they don't have the power of tanks and guns.
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They don’t need it because those in power, both with and without tanks, are focused on serving their own interests. The only way they stay on top is by supporting each other. If it weren’t for Imran Khan, they might occasionally clash not for the betterment of the people of Pakistan, but simply to preserve the status quo.
 
gani999 said:
There's no mention of any of this in Pak media. Not a word. Only neutral, foreign agencies seem to be reporting on it.
Apparently, the Taliban have claimed that they have captured some Pak villages and posts on the border?
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not true. Pak media is unbiased and free from establishment influence
 
Soldier martyred in wanton firing by Afghan forces

A Frontier Constabulary (FC) soldier was martyred and 11 others were injured when Afghan forces launched unprovoked fire on multiple Pakistani border posts in the Upper Kurram district on Saturday morning, sources said.

The Afghan forces targeted border posts in Ghozgarhi, Matha Sangar, Kot Ragha and Tari Mengal areas using both light and heavy weaponry, the sources said, adding that Pakistani security forces retaliated, inflicting significant losses on the other side as seven to eight personnel of the Afghan forces were killed in the exchange of fire.

Besides, militants made an infiltration attempt late on Friday night, using the posts controlled by the Afghan Taliban to cross into Pakistani territory, but the attempt was thwarted.

“After the infiltration attempt failed, militants and Afghan forces jointly opened fire on Pakistani posts with heavy weapons on Saturday morning. The firing was effectively responded to and there are confirmed reports of heavy losses on the Afghan side with over 15 militants dead and many others wounded,” another source said, adding that Afghan forces abandoned their posts and left the area after the incident.

Pakistan has repeatedly raised concerns over Afghan soil being used by militants for cross-border terrorism, particularly in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan. The banned Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) has intensified its activities since calling off a ceasefire in November 2022.

Last year, Chief of the Army Staff Gen Asim Munir expressed Pakistan’s concerns over militant sanctuaries in Afghanistan. He ruled out any negotiations with the outlawed TTP, emphasising the need to address cross-border terrorism.

However, the sources said that instead of controlling the militants, the Afghan Taliban were continuously supporting them.

The attack on Pakistani border posts took place days after, according to security officials, Pakistani fighter jets bombed TTP camps in Afghanistan’s Paktika province. They said the strikes left several militants killed and wounded.

Sources said the TTP camps in the Murgha and Laman areas of Paktika’s Bermal district were targeted, adding that one of the camps was used by Sher Zaman alias Mukhlis Yar, ‘commander’ Abu Hamza, ‘commander’ Akhtar Mohammad, and the head of TTP’s media arm, Umar Media.

Afghan authorities had warned on Wednesday they would retaliate after the Pakistani bombardment. Islamabad said it had targeted hideouts of militants along the border.

According to Reuters, Afghanistan’s defence ministry said on Saturday that Afghan Taliban forces targeted “several points” in Pakistan, days after Pakistani aircraft carried out aerial bombardment inside Afghanistan.

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Bhaijaan said:
Who is backing Afghanistan against Pakistan?

@DeadlyVenom
@Cpt. Rishwat
@The Bald Eagle
@Bewal Express
@HalBass9

Pakistanis claimed Bharat failed in Afghanistan so it cannot be us.

Is it Iran? Israel? Russia?
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yeah @DeadlyVenom looks pak screwed the pooch on its western borders.

no hope any progress on its eastern borders. iran lauching missiles. messiah in jail. looks things are hunbky dory in the land of the pure.

when do you think the next begging bowl trip to IMF will be?
 
gani999 said:
There's no mention of any of this in Pak media. Not a word. Only neutral, foreign agencies seem to be reporting on it.
Apparently, the Taliban have claimed that they have captured some Pak villages and posts on the border?
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Where is this claim that villages were captured? Please post the Taliban statement that you have access to.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Not everything is a result of 3d party backers.

Taliban are crackpots and responsible themselves
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sure talibans are crackpots but bangbros begging for india visa while crying about india are a great group.

Looks like Taliban lived in pakistan, ruined pakistan as a society from inside and now are killing Pakistani soldiers at the border.

For pakistanis like you its well deserved treatment. hope you are enjoying it.
 
rpant_gabba said:
sure talibans are crackpots but bangbros begging for india visa while crying about india are a great group.

Looks like Taliban took lived in paksitan, ruined poaksitan as a society from inside and now are killing Pakistani soldiers at the border.

For paksitanis like you its well deserved treatment. hope you are enjoying it.
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I mean if you want to cheer on imaginary scenarios how can I stop you brother.
 
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Bhaijaan said:
It says Pakistani attack killed 40 civilians on Afghan soil resulting in this aggressive response.
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It is a shame for Afghan people who have suffered from these war games from years from different parties.

I believe Pakistan is seeking to annex some territory and create a buffer zone in short to medium term.
 
rpant_gabba said:
Imaginary? sure. Thats what I would say If I was in your shoes.


nah. simply shoving your own arguments down your throat.

Looking forward to a nice prolonged engagment at the Pak western border. should keep pak in its current state as a for rent country forever
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India's defeat in Bangladesh cant be avenged by Afghan Taliban brother.

Step out of your delusions. Embrace the cold Canadian air and think twice before posting this kind of rubbish.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
What is the nature of this conflict? I have seen very little mention of it over here in the UK.
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On December 25, 2024, Pakistani airstrikes targeted suspected militant hideouts in Afghanistan’s Paktika province, resulting in at least 46 deaths, predominantly women and children.

Pakistan stated that the operation aimed to dismantle a training facility for insurgents.

In response, Afghanistan’s Defense Ministry reported conducting strikes on several locations within Pakistan, claiming these sites were used to support and organize attacks against Afghanistan. A pro-Taliban source indicated that these retaliatory strikes resulted in the deaths of 19 Pakistani troops and three Afghan civilians, though these figures have not been independently verified.

These incidents have intensified hostilities along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, with both nations accusing each other of harboring and supporting insurgent groups responsible for cross-border attacks.
 
Bhaijaan said:
On December 25, 2024, Pakistani airstrikes targeted suspected militant hideouts in Afghanistan’s Paktika province, resulting in at least 46 deaths, predominantly women and children.

Pakistan stated that the operation aimed to dismantle a training facility for insurgents.

In response, Afghanistan’s Defense Ministry reported conducting strikes on several locations within Pakistan, claiming these sites were used to support and organize attacks against Afghanistan. A pro-Taliban source indicated that these retaliatory strikes resulted in the deaths of 19 Pakistani troops and three Afghan civilians, though these figures have not been independently verified.

These incidents have intensified hostilities along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, with both nations accusing each other of harboring and supporting insurgent groups responsible for cross-border attacks.
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So it seems that both countries are trying to eliminate terrorist elements in the murky areas between borders. This has always been a problem in that area where ethnic and sectarian division has been cultivated during the decades of war since the Soviet invasion. Seems as though due to lack of co-operation between the two countries they are each taking their own measures respectfully to maintain their own localities.
 
Well according to khwaja asif we have been in a state of war with these Afghans for last 40 yrs

But if you look at history they even attacked us before this unlike india these Afghans don't even recognise pakistan or the intl border.

Take the Islamic name from them and pulverise them they attack us daily so pakistan needs to make a 5-10km buffer zone not send troops but pulverise it with artillery drones and lay mines on afghan side.

Every attack needs 100s of these Afghans killed including these afghan taliban .

Iranians and central asians all have shoot on sight they pulverise any afghan infiltration and show no mercy
 
gani999 said:
There's no mention of any of this in Pak media. Not a word. Only neutral, foreign agencies seem to be reporting on it.
Apparently, the Taliban have claimed that they have captured some Pak villages and posts on the borde
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Bhaijaan said:
Who is backing Afghanistan against Pakistan?

@DeadlyVenom
@Cpt. Rishwat
@The Bald Eagle
@Bewal Express
@HalBass9

Pakistanis claimed Bharat failed in Afghanistan so it cannot be us.

Is it Iran? Israel? Russia?
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US has left their weapons worth billions of dollars when they ran from Afghanistan.

All those weapons and modern equipment will be used against Pakistan.
 
Champ_Pal said:
US has left their weapons worth billions of dollars when they ran from Afghanistan.

All those weapons and modern equipment will be used against Pakistan.
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They have just been crashing the helicopters bro. :yk
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
What is the nature of this conflict? I have seen very little mention of it over here in the UK.
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From what I gather, TTP is based n Afghanistan. The border is unclear. Pakistan has to do surgical strikes to eliminate TTP.

Afghanistan also does not recognize Durand line. The believe the entire KPK and Pashtun belt of Pakistan belongs to Afghanistan.

Pakistan thought Afghanistan is a Brotherly Islamic nation and keeping the border open and lines not drawn between both countries would not hurt Pakistan. They were confident that Afghanistan will always stay thankful to Pakistan for helping them fight off Russians. Big mistake.


Basically unresolved partition issues and Russian war remnants attacking Pakistan. The same people that ISI trained are now Pakistan’s enemy.
 
@Bhaijaan It is about the Afghan/Pak Taliban believing that Pakistan is not following Sharia law and that its government is unIslamic so they fight against Pakistan based on this belief.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
So it seems that both countries are trying to eliminate terrorist elements in the murky areas between borders. This has always been a problem in that area where ethnic and sectarian division has been cultivated during the decades of war since the Soviet invasion. Seems as though due to lack of co-operation between the two countries they are each taking their own measures respectfully to maintain their own localities.
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Why are Afghan Taliban attacking Pakistani Army then?
 
Champ_Pal said:
US has left their weapons worth billions of dollars when they ran from Afghanistan.

All those weapons and modern equipment will be used against Pakistan.
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Most of the weapons have been destroyed, and the remaining equipment has largely been transferred to Pakistan.
 
FearlessRoar said:
@Bhaijaan It is about the Afghan/Pak Taliban believing that Pakistan is not following Sharia law and that its government is unIslamic so they fight against Pakistan based on this belief.
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Why is Pakistan not following Sharia however? It’s a just question.
 

Moscow Calls for Restraint from Afghanistan, Pakistan Amid Tensions​

Following clashes between the forces of the Islamic Emirate and Pakistan, the Russian Foreign Ministry expressed concern over the escalating tensions between Kabul and Islamabad.

Maria Zakharova, spokesperson for the Russian Foreign Ministry, urged both sides to exercise restraint and engage in constructive dialogue.

Russia’s TASS news agency quoted Zakharova as saying: “Moscow is concerned over the escalation of tensions on the Pakistani-Afghan border where not only the military but also civilians perish in shootouts.”

“From the perspective of their security being at risk, if conflict erupts between Pakistan and Afghanistan, the region's stability is threatened. Russia has plans to work with both Afghanistan and Pakistan if the region remains stable,” said Moeen Gul Samkanai, a political analyst.

The Islamic Emirate’s Ministry of Defense launched attacks on positions across the Durand Line yesterday in response to Pakistani airstrikes on Bermal district in Paktika province.

“We demand that they engage in dialogue to ensure no more lives are lost,” said Mohammad Afghan, a resident of Paktia.

“We want this issue resolved through dialogue because people are extremely tired,” said Wali, another resident of Paktia.

According to sources, during yesterday’s clashes between the forces of the Islamic Emirate and Pakistani military, 19 Pakistani soldiers and five Afghan civilians were killed.

 
Afghanistan's dependency on Pakistan's trade, borders becomes more apparent

Afghanistan's heavy reliance on Pakistan for trade, supply routes, and humanitarian aid became a key issue, as the Taliban government faced increasing regional tensions.

According to reports, most of Afghanistan's goods, from food to fuel, enter the country through Pakistan’s borders. In times of conflict, Pakistan could easily disrupt these supply lines, leading to significant economic challenges for Afghanistan.

Humanitarian aid, including medical supplies and foreign assistance, also flows through Pakistan. Any economic sanctions or trade blockades imposed by Pakistan could push Afghanistan into a severe economic and humanitarian crisis.

The Taliban's government, in power since 2021, faces international diplomatic isolation, with many countries, especially in the West, refusing to recognise the regime due to its strict policies, human rights violations, and enforcement of tribal laws. Despite international condemnation, Pakistan maintains diplomatic relations with Afghanistan, offering the Taliban government a form of international legal standing.

Although Pakistan’s military is capable of targeting Taliban factions and other insurgent groups within Afghanistan, it has consistently avoided direct military action against Afghanistan. However, Pakistan retains the right to act against any group that threatens its national security or interests, especially those involved in anti-Pakistan terrorism.


Afghanistan's dependency on Pakistan's trade, borders becomes more apparent

Pakistan also maintains an extensive intelligence network within Afghanistan and among Afghan refugees, which it can use to support these resistance movements.
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Cricket Warrior said:
Afghanistan's dependency on Pakistan's trade, borders becomes more apparent

Afghanistan's heavy reliance on Pakistan for trade, supply routes, and humanitarian aid became a key issue, as the Taliban government faced increasing regional tensions.

According to reports, most of Afghanistan's goods, from food to fuel, enter the country through Pakistan’s borders. In times of conflict, Pakistan could easily disrupt these supply lines, leading to significant economic challenges for Afghanistan.

Humanitarian aid, including medical supplies and foreign assistance, also flows through Pakistan. Any economic sanctions or trade blockades imposed by Pakistan could push Afghanistan into a severe economic and humanitarian crisis.

The Taliban's government, in power since 2021, faces international diplomatic isolation, with many countries, especially in the West, refusing to recognise the regime due to its strict policies, human rights violations, and enforcement of tribal laws. Despite international condemnation, Pakistan maintains diplomatic relations with Afghanistan, offering the Taliban government a form of international legal standing.

Although Pakistan’s military is capable of targeting Taliban factions and other insurgent groups within Afghanistan, it has consistently avoided direct military action against Afghanistan. However, Pakistan retains the right to act against any group that threatens its national security or interests, especially those involved in anti-Pakistan terrorism.


Afghanistan's dependency on Pakistan's trade, borders becomes more apparent

Pakistan also maintains an extensive intelligence network within Afghanistan and among Afghan refugees, which it can use to support these resistance movements.
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Wow Samaa tv really thinks Pakistan is some super big shot, seeing the articles on this forum from last week which are samaa tv , are they of the Establishment?
 
Farhan The Man said:
Alternatively take off the pretend-islamic label from us.

punjabi vs pathan conflict this one.

Nothing to do with pakistan here.
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Let's keep it at that

The Pakistan Army has done a great job this year in handling the recent clashes and securing the backsides of the Afghans.
 
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JaDed said:
Wow Samaa tv really thinks Pakistan is some super big shot, seeing the articles on this forum from last week which are samaa tv , are they of the Establishment?
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It is a big shot relative to Afghanistan and entrance of goods into Afghanistan.
 
Complete nonsense afghan civilians have fled dand e patan and ali sher districts they are now calling intl community to come and protect them I told you pakistan army opened a gaping hole in the back of these Afghans when it bought in artillery, drones and rockets
 
mazkhan said:
Complete nonsense afghan civilians have fled dand e patan and ali sher districts they are now calling intl community to come and protect them I told you pakistan army opened a gaping hole in the back of these Afghans when it bought in artillery, drones and rockets
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Afghans have loyalist Pakhtuns inside Pakistan. They can open up two front war against Pakistan army anytime. There’s a reason why Afghans have never been conquered except for Maharaja Ranjit Singh’s yodhas.
 
Slim said:
I show up in this thread and its 80% indian posters active on it. I love the concern our neighbours have for us. :sree
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We are active in all geopolitical discussions being a global leader we have vested interests.

It’s interesting what’s going on between Af-Pak. From what im hearing basically the Afghans do not recognize the Non Shariat military state of Pakistan and want to take it under their dominion in the name of Islam.

Pakistan does not want to abide by Sharia as they still have Sanatani roots.
 
Bhaijaan said:
We are active in all geopolitical discussions being a global leader we have vested interests.

It’s interesting what’s going on between Af-Pak. From what im hearing basically the Afghans do not recognize the Non Shariat military state of Pakistan and want to take it under their dominion in the name of Islam.

Pakistan does not want to abide by Sharia as they still have Sanatani roots.
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Afghans follow Pukthunwali, not Shariah law which imo doesnt exist.

Being active while being an ignorant fool. Recipe for disaster.
 
Farhan The Man said:
Alternatively take off the pretend-islamic label from us.

punjabi vs pathan conflict this one.

Nothing to do with pakistan here.
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Why do Pathans have such a long running hatred of Punjabis? I am assuming it is rooted in the Sikh/Afghan wars, but that is going back centuries, and Pakistanis are not Sikhs.
 
Slim said:
I show up in this thread and its 80% indian posters active on it. I love the concern our neighbours have for us. :sree
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We should have big hearts and let them discuss to their hearts content.

Not all are trolling @Bhaijaan is a well wisher of Pakistan for a long time for example.
 
I watched the some videos / photos few days ago where Pakistan airstrike had killed innocent afghanistan children's( 5-10 years old) in the name of Taliban.
 
After Taliban take over in Afghanistan Pakistan posters were celebrated and said ' Afghanistan will be strategic depths for pakistan onwards '

Where goes theory of Afghanistan being strategic depth?
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685 security personnel laid down their lives amid 444 terror attacks across the country
• CRSS data shows KP and Balochistan were worst-hit by the violence

ISLAMABAD: With at least 685 members of security forces losing their lives amid a total of 444 terror attacks, 2024 turned out to be the deadliest year for civil and military security forces of Pakistan in a decade.

Equally alarming were the cumulative losses of civilians and security personnel: 1,612 fatalities, accounting for over 63pc of the total recorded this year and marking 73pc more losses compared to 934 outlaws eliminated.

The overall fatalities recorded this year were a record 9-year high, and over 66pc more than 2023. On average, nearly seven lives were lost daily, with November emerging as the deadliest month, compared to all other months of the year.


The violence took the heaviest toll on Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP) which topped in human losses with 1616 fatalities, followed by Balochistan with 782 fatalities.
 
Champ_Pal said:
Civilians are the first casualty when non-traditional war fares happen. The same thing happened in Gaza. One cannot fight Hamas without killing innocent Gazans.
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As Norman Finklestein have said.

“ If you are at war in Gaza, why are you shooting children in the skull and in chest, why are you killing journalists, medics, UN workers?

Does that sound like a war or does it sound like a genocide? “
 
Slim said:
I show up in this thread and its 80% indian posters active on it. I love the concern our neighbours have for us. :sree
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Similar to your sympathy for Indians facing racism in Canada.

Atleast no Indian still celebrates Taliban take over.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Why do Pathans have such a long running hatred of Punjabis? I am assuming it is rooted in the Sikh/Afghan wars, but that is going back centuries, and Pakistanis are not Sikhs.
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The Sikhs and Ancient Sindhu Ghaati Sanatanis had an upper hand over Pathans and Persians in war. This is why the Afghans respect Bharat to this date. We humbled them. But never boasted about it and welcomed them with open arms like brothers. It is after all the Sanskriti of this land.

We have however immense respect for the nomadic warrior tribes of the Eastern Asia. They were great warriors and fought hard against us and after many failures they were able to finally break in and enjoy success until inevitable Sanatanis had a resurgence.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Although he is also trolling a touch when he says Afghans have much love for Hindustan. Their raids on the subcontinent are actually rooted in their wars with Hindustan. 👨‍🎓
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I’m very clear on this.
I never truly recognized Pakistanis as different country people. In my heart, Pakistanis are still Bharatiya people with equal claim to the legacy of this great subcontinent. They did a mistake by carving out a separate nation in 1947 and it never paid off for them. It’s been a bad venture that’s hurt both Pakistan and Bharat.

Afghans, I recognize as separate people and a separate nation. We fought them hard centuries ago through our ancestors whose descendants are mostly the modern day Pakistanis.
 
Bhaijaan said:
The Sikhs and Ancient Sindhu Ghaati Sanatanis had an upper hand over Pathans and Persians in war. This is why the Afghans respect Bharat to this date. We humbled them. But never boasted about it and welcomed them with open arms like brothers. It is after all the Sanskriti of this land.

We have however immense respect for the nomadic warrior tribes of the Eastern Asia. They were great warriors and fought hard against us and after many failures they were able to finally break in and enjoy success until inevitable Sanatanis had a resurgence.
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I don't believe the Pathans themselves view the wars between themselves and Hindustan as defeats. I don't think history does either as it is the Pathans and Afghans who have gained legendary status as great warriors, not the Hindus or the Sikhs, although Sikhs definitely did gain a reputation for warfare as well.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Arabs took over Jewish land.
Jerusalem is the legacy of the Jews and not of Islam or Christianity.

Sanatanis will always stand by indegenous Jewish claim of the Israeli sultanate.
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That would be the caananites, the first inhabitants of Palestine and Jerusalem
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
I don't believe the Pathans themselves view the wars between themselves and Hindustan as defeats. I don't think history does either as it is the Pathans and Afghans who have gained legendary status as great warriors, not the Hindus or the Sikhs, although Sikhs definitely did gain a reputation for warfare as well.
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Perspective of timelines is important. From Mohd al-Qasim‘s conquest of Sindh from Brahmins in the 8th century to the British mercilessly ending the line of the Mughals in 1857 in Delhi, The Islamo-Sanatani wars in the subcontinent are a series of events dating a millennium.

People are free to define legacy in their own language but where do all the great ancient nations stand today? So who really won?
 
Devadwal said:
After Taliban take over in Afghanistan Pakistan posters were celebrated and said ' Afghanistan will be strategic depths for pakistan onwards '

Where goes theory of Afghanistan being strategic depth?
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Indians should consider Pakistan as strategic depth. I have said for some time Pakistan has provided a buffer from Afghan raids on Hindustan of historical times. This long established hostility towards Pakistan makes no sense. if it were not there, only difference is Afghans would hate Hindustan rather than Pakistan which it sees as a false barrier.
 
Bewal Express said:
PK nor Afghanistan can win,we both losses. A war suits the Generals and Ind.
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Considering it was your false leader who settled 45000 terrorists in pakistan and wanted open border with afghanistan

Yours is the only leader who sent commiserations to the afghans on the strikes on ttp
 
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Can some insafian tell me why their love affair with Afghans and taliban.

A country that doesn't recognise the intl border , makes racist remarks about punjabis .

And has banned women from work , women from ngos and education and has now banned windows on buildings to stop women looking outside .

Care to explain
 
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Cpt. Rishwat said:
Indians should consider Pakistan as strategic depth. I have said for some time Pakistan has provided a buffer from Afghan raids on Hindustan of historical times. This long established hostility towards Pakistan makes no sense. if it were not there, only difference is Afghans would hate Hindustan rather than Pakistan which it sees as a false barrier.
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Pakistan converted to Islam all the while protecting India from Turkic raids through Afghanistan.

While India made good relations with Arabs, Central Asians and Afghans, the saviors of India AKA Pakistan became its mortal enemy. Its on Pakistan to better relations with India. Give up Kashmir dreams and Ghazwa hopes. Everything will be alright.

Pakistan as it is has a huge land area and they do not need any more land to be happy. What they need is education, economic development and foreign investment.
 
Champ_Pal said:
Pakistan converted to Islam all the while protecting India from Turkic raids through Afghanistan.

While India made good relations with Arabs, Central Asians and Afghans, the saviors of India AKA Pakistan became its mortal enemy. Its on Pakistan to better relations with India. Give up Kashmir dreams and Ghazwa hopes. Everything will be alright.

Pakistan as it is has a huge land area and they do not need any more land to be happy. What they need is education, economic development and foreign investment.
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This idea that India has made good relations with Arabs, Central Asians and Afghans will never be convincing as long as there is such an anti-Islamic sentiment prevalent in India. Indian posters regularly make anti-Arab remarks on these boards for example, but beyond social media, obviously a mask of good relations is necessary.

Whether Pakistan wants to capitulate to Indian demands over land disputes is not really of that much interest to me. If they see benefit in it, why not? Although from Indian statements and actions for past decade, they don't wish for Pakistan success at any cost so I would doubt that would be a wise course. We just have to see how India tried to bleed Bangladesh once the mask of friendship was lifted.
 
FearlessRoar said:
@Bhaijaan It is about the Afghan/Pak Taliban believing that Pakistan is not following Sharia law and that its government is unIslamic so they fight against Pakistan based on this belief.
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No that's not true Afghanistan has been sour against Pakistan since Americas war on terror for obvious reasons and now they have backing from india too
 
JaDed said:
Considering Pakistan is responsible for putting Taliban back on the throne, one would expect it to be calling the shots.
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I disagree. Pakistan isn't responsible although yes it did contribute. Responsibility lies with USA for cutting a deal
 
DeadlyVenom said:
I disagree. Pakistan isn't responsible although yes it did contribute. Responsibility lies with USA for cutting a deal
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Should always refer to Pakistan military while referring to Pakistan related politics. Historically the military dictatorship of Pakistan has been involved with a lot of stuff in the neighbourhood that a common Pakistani might not align with. The people of Pakistan , especially the youth is already paying for a lot of poor policies of the military that weren’t executed keeping national interest in mind.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Should always refer to Pakistan military while referring to Pakistan related politics. Historically the military dictatorship of Pakistan has been involved with a lot of stuff in the neighbourhood that a common Pakistani might not align with. The people of Pakistan , especially the youth is already paying for a lot of poor policies of the military that weren’t executed keeping national interest in mind.
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They kept the national interest in mind with foreign policy

Despite it's many failings Pakistan has good relationships with it's neighbours and close countries ( bar one) and will settle the Taliban issue with time too. This is just a small reaction from Taliban lashing out like a small child against papa.

In contrast the alleged regional super power has been kicked out of all neighbouring countries where it had a hold has poor relations and is harbouring the fugitive leader of its neighbours.

The problem is Pakistan's domestic policy doesn't keep the national interest in mind :ROFLMAO:
 
DeadlyVenom said:
They kept the national interest in mind with foreign policy

Despite it's many failings Pakistan has good relationships with it's neighbours and close countries ( bar one) and will settle the Taliban issue with time too. This is just a small reaction from Taliban lashing out like a small child against papa.

In contrast the alleged regional super power has been kicked out of all neighbouring countries where it had a hold has poor relations and is harbouring the fugitive leader of its neighbours.

The problem is Pakistan's domestic policy doesn't keep the national interest in mind :ROFLMAO:
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One needs to bear in mind that this region of Asia has a lot of players involved. Not just Pakistan and Afghanistan, but Russia and Iran as well. It is not a two party dispute, lots of interested parties pushing proxy agendas of their own. Even India pokes it's nose in to meddle despite having no border with Afghanistan. A few spats and flashpoints are inevitable with so many moving parts.
 
mazkhan said:
Considering it was your false leader who settled 45000 terrorists in pakistan and wanted open border with afghanistan

Yours is the only leader who sent commiserations to the afghans on the strikes on ttp
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Just slap your handlers for lying to you.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">To blame the Taliban repatriation policy on Imran Khan is simply contrary to the facts. National security issues in Pakistan have the military establishment as the key stakeholder, and the contours of this policy were negotiated and implemented after the Vote of No Confidence.… <a href="https://t.co/nXrY1vjSma">pic.twitter.com/nXrY1vjSma</a></p>&mdash; Taimur Saleem Khan Jhagra (@Jhagra) <a href="
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Slim said:
I show up in this thread and its 80% indian posters active on it. I love the concern our neighbours have for us. :sree
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Afghan Taliban forces target ‘several points’ in Pakistan in retaliation for airstrikes, Afghan defense ministry says

Afghan Taliban forces targeted “several points” in neighboring Pakistan, Afghanistan’s defense ministry said on Saturday, days after Pakistani aircraft carried out aerial bombardment inside Afghanistan.

The statement from the Defense Ministry did not specify Pakistan but said the strikes were conducted “beyond the ‘hypothetical line’” – an expression used by Afghan authorities to refer to a border with Pakistan that they have long disputed.

“Several points beyond the hypothetical line, serving as centers and hideouts for malicious elements and their supporters who organized and coordinated attacks in Afghanistan, were targeted in retaliation from the southeastern direction of the country,” the ministry said.

Asked whether the statement referred to Pakistan, ministry spokesman Enayatullah Khowarazmi said: “We do not consider it to be the territory of Pakistan, therefore, we cannot confirm the territory, but it was on the other side of the hypothetical line.”

Afghanistan has for decades rejected the border, known as the Durand Line, drawn by British colonial authorities in the 19th century through the mountainous and often lawless tribal belt between what is now Afghanistan and Pakistan.

No details of casualties or specific areas targeted were provided. The Pakistani military’s public relations wing and a spokesperson for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Afghan authorities warned on Wednesday they would retaliate after the Pakistani bombardment, which they said had killed civilians. Islamabad said it had targeted hideouts of Islamist militants along the border.

The neighbors have a strained relationship, with Pakistan saying that several militant attacks that have occurred in its country have been launched from Afghan soil – a charge the Afghan Taliban denies.




Now international media is reporting but Pakistan media as usually hiding the reality.

::kp
 
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