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Is a war between a Taliban based Afghanistan and Pakistan a possibility?

Asked whether the statement referred to Pakistan, ministry spokesman Enayatullah Khowarazmi said: “We do not consider it to be the territory of Pakistan, therefore, we cannot confirm the territory, but it was on the other side of the hypothetical line.”

Afghanistan has for decades rejected the border, known as the Durand Line, drawn by British colonial authorities in the 19th century through the mountainous and often lawless tribal belt between what is now Afghanistan and Pakistan.





Now international media is reporting but Pakistan media as usually hiding the reality.

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Here might lie the problem. If Afghan position is that this is their territory then it would be clear that aggression is being stoked from their side. That could be an issue as they have agreed previously to not conduct military operations outside of their own borders.
 
Here might lie the problem. If Afghan position is that this is their territory then it would be clear that aggression is being stoked from their side. That could be an issue as they have agreed previously to not conduct military operations outside of their own borders.
Agression was started by Pakistan when they conducted a airstrike inside Afghanistan and due to that strikes half dozens chilldren had killed .

So not sure what you talking about. Maybe you think Pakistan has right to airstrike inside Afghanistan territory .
 
Agression was started by Pakistan when they conducted a airstrike inside Afghanistan and due to that strikes half dozens chilldren had killed .

So not sure what you talking about. Maybe you think Pakistan has right to airstrike inside Afghanistan territory .

What does Pakistan gain by starting a conflict with Afghanistan?
 
What does Pakistan gain by starting a conflict with Afghanistan?
That's good question which most of pakistani people's didn't have any clue

COAS Munir wants to stay relevant just before Trump take the charge

Pakistan establishment don't want Trump to focus on imran khan issue instead Afghanistan - pakistan conflict .

I know Most of pakistan posters won't agree with this .

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That's good question which most of pakistani people's didn't have any clue

COAS Munir wants to stay relevant just before Trump take the charge

Pakistan establishment don't want Trump to focus on imran khan issue instead Afghanistan - pakistan conflict .

I know Most of pakistan posters won't agree with this .

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That's because it is very weak reasoning and just desperation to throw shade on Pakistan due to your Bharati jazba.
 
That's because it is very weak reasoning and just desperation to throw shade on Pakistan due to your Bharati jazba.
I know Pakistan posters don't want to face the reality, fair enough. I have no issue if they wants to lives in delusion.

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I know Pakistan posters don't want to face the reality, fair enough. I have no issue if they wants to lives in delusion.

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Well you could have argued your weak reasoning, but instead already made your excuses and said I know Pakistan posters don't want to hear this and that's all you've got. Why would Pakistan posters not want to hear it if the logic is sound?
 
Well you could have argued your weak reasoning, but instead already made your excuses and said I know Pakistan posters don't want to hear this and that's all you've got. Why would Pakistan posters not want to hear it if the logic is sound?
I explained very well now you can take whats you want to accept - Really or Denial ?

Maybe go and read what Pakistan people are talking about this incident on Pakistan defence forums.

They have all agreed with my point and most of them saying the same .
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Well you could have argued your weak reasoning, but instead already made your excuses and said I know Pakistan posters don't want to hear this and that's all you've got. Why would Pakistan posters not want to hear it if the logic is sound?
As an astute british-er, why are you commenting on behalf of pakistanis?

Surely you must be a pakistani with a british passport then.

Alternatively, we can speak for ourselves. No thanks.
 
I explained very well now you can take whats you want to accept - Really or Denial ?

Maybe go and read what Pakistan people are talking about this incident on Pakistan defence forums.

They have all agreed with my point and most of them saying the same .
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So your reasoning amounts to go and read what other people are saying on other forums. That's not great, but at least you could lay out that reasoning even if it isn't your own.
 
As an astute british-er, why are you commenting on behalf of pakistanis?

Surely you must be a pakistani with a british passport then.

Alternatively, we can speak for ourselves. No thanks.

Where did I say I was commenting on behalf of Pakistanis?

So you are happy for a hostile Indian who considers Pakistan an eternal enemy to speak on behalf of Pakistan....but if a Britisher of Pakistani heritage asks for the reasoning you get offended? Very strange. :unsure:
 
That's good question which most of pakistani people's didn't have any clue

COAS wants to stay relevant just before Trump take the charge

Pakistan establishment don't want Trump to focus on imran khan issue instead Afghanistan - pakistan conflict .

I know Most of pakistan posters won't agree with this .

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The Afgan conflict was no priority for the last Trump administration, and i dont see anyone reason it will this time. Both imran and Trump instigated a peace deal and the withdrawal of NATO forces. Pakistan establishment will be back in line very shortly post Biden administration.
 
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The Afgan conflict was no priority for the last Trump administration, and i dont see anyone reason it will this time. Both imran and Trump instigated a peace deal and the withdrawal of NATO forces. Establishment will be back in line very shortly post Biden administration.
You already answered my question. Afghanistan conflict is not a priority at this point for trump adminstration. If bigger conflict happens than it will be and that's what Munir is doing( Pakistan Peoples will be Happy as they think Munir is doing right things to eliminate TTP ) Pakistan establishment doesn't wants Trump adminstration to Focus on Imran Khan issue.

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You already answered my question. Afghanistan conflict is not a priority at this point for trump adminstration. If bigger conflict happens than it will be and that's what Munir is doing( Pakistan Peoples will be Happy as they think Munir is doing right things to eliminate TTP ) Pakistan establishment doesn't wants Trump adminstration to Focus on Imran Khan issue.

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Establishment is basically doing what the Biden admin wanted Pakistan to do. Carry out these surgical strikes. Like I said. Once Trump admin comes in, all this will come to a halt. It has nothing to do with Munir using this as a deflection tactic from the imran khan issue.
 
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Establishment is basically doing what the Biden admin wanted Pakistan to do. Carry out these surgical strikes. Like I said. Once Trump admin comes in, all this will come to a halt. It has nothing to do with Munir using this as a deflection tactic from the imran khan issue.
But i think America policy don't change as soon as new President comes to the power.CIA or other important party's Play very important role so its not easy to change the policy .
 
But i think America policy don't change as soon as new President comes to the power.CIA or other important party's Play very important role so its not easy to change the policy .

Why is it American policy to bomb Taliban since they have withdrawn from this conflict years ago?
 
But i think America policy don't change as soon as new President comes to the power.CIA or other important party's Play very important role so its not easy to change the policy

Lol. Trump withdrew whole of NATO from Afghanistan last time. This time, a change of policy for this region will be a peace of cake.
 
Lol. Trump withdrew whole of NATO from Afghanistan last time. This time, a change of policy for this region will be a peace of cake.
Why is it American policy to bomb Taliban since they have withdrawn from this conflict years ago?

Yet another wrong take. I never said america wanted to comes again in Afghanistan .

Why they will comes when pakistan can do whatever they wants from them ? Just throw some dollers to Pakistan establishment and Job done.

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Yet another wrong take. I never said america wanted to comes again in Afghanistan .

Why they will comes when pakistan can do whatever they wants from them ? Just throw some dollers to Pakistan establishment and Job done.

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But you don't get the point. Trump admin had no intrest in this region before, what makes you think it will be different now?

I think he's going to be occupied with AIPACS led agenda ( Greater Israel Push) which is really hotting up across that region. And the Ukraine - Russia conflict. Trump wants end to that, but his right hand man Musk the richest Guy on the planet, who funded this Trump campaign has other ideas for that region.
 
But you don't get the point. Trump admin had no intrest in this region before, what makes you think it will be different now?
Absolutely wrong .

Do you know who changed the government in Bangladesh and why ?

Find the real Truth before discussing more about this point .

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i think I called this when taliban took pwoer in afg that they will go after Pakistan as they see TTP as their own army.
 
Absolutely wrong .

Do you know who changed the government in Bangladesh and why ?

Find the real Truth before discussing more about this point .

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Nah. You ain't got a clue when it comes to the Pak (US) Led conflict with Afghanistan.
 
Nah. You ain't got a clue when it comes to the Pak (US) Led conflict with Afghanistan.
That's show your understanding .

USA needs a based around china to control them.

First they asked from Pakistan ( During Imran khan time) but Khan said absolutely not so USA did the coup with the help of establishment and PDM . Now Imran khan is in jail.

They asked india but india said no and they can't do anything because India is not Pakistan or any others nation who is depend on them totally.

Then they ask from Bangladesh and haseena said no as well so they did the same coup with the help of Younus Khan ( He is very well under the influence of USA,you can Read it )

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That's show your understanding .

USA needs a based around china to control them.

First they asked from Pakistan ( During Imran khan time) but Khan said absolutely not so USA did the coup with the help of establishment and PDM . Now Imran khan is in jail.

They asked india but india said no and they can't do anything because India is not Pakistan or any others nation who is depend on them totally.

Then they ask from Bangladesh and haseena said no as well so they did the same coup with the help of Younus Khan ( He is very well under the influence of USA,you can Read it )

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You say Pakistan is dependent on USA totally because it wants a counter to China. But Pakistan is in China's pocket according to most Indian posters. Which is it?
 
You say Pakistan is dependent on USA totally because it wants a counter to China. But Pakistan is in China's pocket according to most Indian posters. Which is it?
What did i say? Imran khan said no that why he is in Jail not because he did anything wrong.

Pakistan establishment is in USA pockets . if you still doesn't understand that what i can say.

Yes pakistan has good relationship with China as well no one denied it .but do you know why CPEC and all the china project slowed down ?

Forget about China project, Pakistan - Iran gas pipeline project has not started Even after a decade just because USA raise objection against it with Pakistan .

Here is latest Updates on it.


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What did i say? Imran khan said no that why he is in Jail not because he did anything wrong.

Pakistan establishment is in USA pockets . if you still doesn't understand that what i can say.

Yes pakistan has good relationship with China as well no one denied it .but do you know why CPEC and all the china project slowed down ?

Forget about China project, Pakistan - Iran gas pipeline project has not started Even after a decade just because USA raise objection against it with Pakistan .

Here is latest Updates on it.


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So if I understand it, you are saying USA is top dog in Asia because it can place proxies in Pakistan and Bangladesh, while India, Iran, Russia and China are all helpless. Is that correct?
 
So if I understand it, you are saying USA is top dog in Asia because it can place proxies in Pakistanand bangadesh
True and they already have a pro USA goverment (Coup Gov) in Both country's
while India, Iran, Russia and China are all helpless. Is that correct?
Absolutely wrong. theses countries doesn't accept USA hegemony in the region and even india is pro USA but only looking at own self intrest but clearly said no to USA when they asked for a based in india .

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True and they already have a pro USA goverment (Coup Gov) in Both country's

Absolutely wrong. theses countries doesn't accept USA hegemony in the region and even india is pro USA but only looking at own self intrest but clearly said no to USA when they asked for a based in india .

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I think those other countries have been quite keen to keep Pakistan in the eastern fold to avoid a US foothold in the region. It is for that reason they were trying to include Pakistan in BRICS but India cannot see beyond hindutva currently, so their refusal on that account is allowing the USA those bases.
 
I think those other countries have been quite keen to keep Pakistan in the eastern fold to avoid a US foothold in the region. It is for that reason they were trying to include Pakistan in BRICS but India cannot see beyond hindutva currently, so their refusal on that account is allowing the USA those bases.
India Never trust on pakistan untill they stop Cross border terrorism and Stop sending Jihadi/ terrorist in Jammu and Kashmir.

Late Vajpayee Sahab trusted pakistan in 1998-99 during Miyan Nawaz Sharif tenure and strated the bus diplomacy but He was backstabbed by Pakistan establishment( Mushrraf) .when vajapayee Shahab was in pakistan , pakistan millitary were busy in planning to attack on Kashmir ( Kargil war ) . So it was Pakistan who always backstabbed india .

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India Never trust on pakistan untill they stop Cross border terrorism and Stop sending Jihadi/ terrorist in Jammu and Kashmir.

Late Vajpayee Sahab trusted pakistan in 1998-99 during Miyan Nawaz Sharif tenure and strated the bus diplomacy but He was backstabbed by Pakistan establishment( Mushrraf) .when vajapayee Shahab was in pakistan , pakistan millitary were busy in planning to attack on Kashmir ( Kargil war ) . So it was Pakistan who always backstabbed india .

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Y’all over played this.
 
They have taken over the banda malasaid area in bajaur and erected afghan taliban flag that's miles over the border well into main areas pti mna has claimed this it's in his constituency failure of the local police , fc, tribals and pti mna who is now blaming the army. And these pti clowns were claiming that if ik is reinstated as PM taliban won't attack off course they won't because you will start handing land and assets to them .

The people from this area are now planning to leave same people who let hundreds of militants come and dig into their area

I say keep these people there and then do a ww2 style attack on area these people need to know the repercussions of adopting lar aw bar yaw afghan doctrine why should the state facilitate their movement with militants amongst them and settle and feed them in camps in rest of Pakistan? And then couple months down the line they get compensation money return and those militants are there again attacking polio workers , blowing up schools and launching attacks.

Whilst the border further north West whilst operation goes on should be patrolled by aircraft and drones and any movement from afghanistan to support the entrenched militants attacked.

We are at war the defence minister has claimed this just a lot of people whom have their head stuck in the sand like an ostrich . The main fitna is this pti whom is the political arm of these tribal and afghan cutthroats.
 
They have taken over the banda malasaid area in bajaur and erected afghan taliban flag that's miles over the border well into main areas pti mna has claimed this it's in his constituency failure of the local police , fc, tribals and pti mna who is now blaming the army. And these pti clowns were claiming that if ik is reinstated as PM taliban won't attack off course they won't because you will start handing land and assets to them .

The people from this area are now planning to leave same people who let hundreds of militants come and dig into their area

I say keep these people there and then do a ww2 style attack on area these people need to know the repercussions of adopting lar aw bar yaw afghan doctrine why should the state facilitate their movement with militants amongst them and settle and feed them in camps in rest of Pakistan? And then couple months down the line they get compensation money return and those militants are there again attacking polio workers , blowing up schools and launching attacks.

Whilst the border further north West whilst operation goes on should be patrolled by aircraft and drones and any movement from afghanistan to support the entrenched militants attacked.

We are at war the defence minister has claimed this just a lot of people whom have their head stuck in the sand like an ostrich . The main fitna is this pti whom is the political arm of these tribal and afghan cutthroats.

Border security is the responsibility of the Pakistani military, not the provincial government. Similarly, the military’s role is not to run the government. Once you grasp these basic concepts, you wouldn’t need to write lengthy posts in a desperate attempt to blame an entire ethnic group. Speaking as a non-Pashtun, I urge you to stop spreading your racist views.
 
True and they already have a pro USA goverment (Coup Gov) in Both country's

Absolutely wrong. theses countries doesn't accept USA hegemony in the region and even india is pro USA but only looking at own self intrest but clearly said no to USA when they asked for a based in india .

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Clarify this with source please. Did india refuse US with bases ?
 
India Never trust on pakistan untill they stop Cross border terrorism and Stop sending Jihadi/ terrorist in Jammu and Kashmir.

Late Vajpayee Sahab trusted pakistan in 1998-99 during Miyan Nawaz Sharif tenure and strated the bus diplomacy but He was backstabbed by Pakistan establishment( Mushrraf) .when vajapayee Shahab was in pakistan , pakistan millitary were busy in planning to attack on Kashmir ( Kargil war ) . So it was Pakistan who always backstabbed india .

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Ok. You will obviously go with your media sources when it comes to this .

But Pakistan also has reliable sources within that india are using cross border terrorist activities to further de - stabilize Pakistan further. And there's also foreign Sources.

 
Ok. You will obviously go with your media sources when it comes to this .

But Pakistan also has reliable sources within that india are using cross border terrorist activities to further de - stabilize Pakistan further. And there's also foreign Sources.

I know this even before a year when unknown person killing the terrorist ( who has done terrorism activities in india) in pakistan

These unknown person are From within pakistan/ Afghanistan who hired by Indian security agency to killed those Hardcore terrorist living in pakistan .

I can give you details how Many terrorist so far killed by Unknown person in pakistan .

US / Israel or most of countries already doing this from long long time .

This is nothing new .
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Border security is the responsibility of the Pakistani military, not the provincial government. Similarly, the military’s role is not to run the government. Once you grasp these basic concepts, you wouldn’t need to write lengthy posts in a desperate attempt to blame an entire ethnic group. Speaking as a non-Pashtun, I urge you to stop spreading your racist views.

So who attacked the banda outpost in first place manned by pashtun fc that they had to vacate we lost over 5 soldiers.

Before that there was an attack on polio workers in the area

Where do these militants hop all over the place from what tribe do they come from and how come their always found in the tribals vicinity and not shalgam eating punjabi daal khor former Hindus.


Also I don't know how to post video but it's on twitter a pakistan quadcopter drops a grenade on 3 militants in mir ali waziristan and they are Injured one is a lot worse off guess who helps them and guess where the militants run too inside tribal houses who then stuff them into a rickshaw to take to the hospital.

I have one video of a militant firing a rpg from a ladder in a tribals house and you can clearly see the washing has been hung out to dry katchis salwars etc
 
I know this even before a year when unknown person killing the terrorist ( who has done terrorism activities in india) in pakistan

These unknown person are From within pakistan/ Afghanistan who hired by Indian security agency to killed those Hardcore terrorist living in pakistan .

I can give you details how Many terrorist so far killed by Unknown person in pakistan .

US / Israel or most of countries already doing this from long long time .

This is nothing new .
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Well then. India cannot Cry Wolf, when Pakistan returns the compliments !
 
Border security is the responsibility of the Pakistani military, not the provincial government. Similarly, the military’s role is not to run the government. Once you grasp these basic concepts, you wouldn’t need to write lengthy posts in a desperate attempt to blame an entire ethnic group. Speaking as a non-Pashtun, I urge you to stop spreading your racist views.

And FYI banda outpost is 24km away from durrand line it's not even on the border or durrand line it's well within bajaur agency and part of the pti mna consitiency who is now crying like b **** that there are hundreds of militants entrenched there
 
This is same bajaur agency cleared by pashtun hero General tariq khan from tank in 2008 and 2009 where he transformed the fc into a formidable unit and cleared the hornets nest of damadola not far from banda malasaid
They had arab fighters amongst them including an Egyptian leader.

If you pti can't govern get lost so governor raj can be bought into action and pakistan army moves into action it's this political deadlock caused by your party that is causing the problem alongwith that court martialled faiz khan bringing 45000 militants back , sipping tea in kabul and wanting open border no visa passport security checks on what is an internationally recognised border not the hypothetical line claimed by Afghans.
 
They have taken over the banda malasaid area in bajaur and erected afghan taliban flag that's miles over the border well into main areas pti mna has claimed this it's in his constituency failure of the local police , fc, tribals and pti mna who is now blaming the army. And these pti clowns were claiming that if ik is reinstated as PM taliban won't attack off course they won't because you will start handing land and assets to them .

The people from this area are now planning to leave same people who let hundreds of militants come and dig into their area

I say keep these people there and then do a ww2 style attack on area these people need to know the repercussions of adopting lar aw bar yaw afghan doctrine why should the state facilitate their movement with militants amongst them and settle and feed them in camps in rest of Pakistan? And then couple months down the line they get compensation money return and those militants are there again attacking polio workers , blowing up schools and launching attacks.

Whilst the border further north West whilst operation goes on should be patrolled by aircraft and drones and any movement from afghanistan to support the entrenched militants attacked.

We are at war the defence minister has claimed this just a lot of people whom have their head stuck in the sand like an ostrich . The main fitna is this pti whom is the political arm of these tribal and afghan cutthroats.

Pakistan invited this upon themselves when they for 20 years trained and hid Taliban. They were enjoying when Afghan forces and Nato forces were attacked. Everytime US or Afghan government would ask Pakistan for corporation Pakistan would deny there are any Taliban in Pakistan or that Pak army is helping them.

US bombed and did countless operation. Night raids etc. etc. Used the mother of all bombs against them as well.

No roles are reversed. TTP includes DAISH, Al Qaida, Afghan Taliban, Baloch's etc. etc. And they all fighting against Pakistan under the name of TTP. They killing Pak army daily.

It's not flat terrain, so even bombing is not effective. And ground operations will kill a lot of Pakistani army soldiers.

Why they fighting? To bring Islamic governement. They don't consider Pakistan government as muslim.

If bombing ww2 style could stop Taliban Americans would have whiped out Taliban.

Taliban taking KPK and Balochistan is inviteble. Only A bombs might stop them.
 
Pakistan invited this upon themselves when they for 20 years trained and hid Taliban. They were enjoying when Afghan forces and Nato forces were attacked. Everytime US or Afghan government would ask Pakistan for corporation Pakistan would deny there are any Taliban in Pakistan or that Pak army is helping them.

US bombed and did countless operation. Night raids etc. etc. Used the mother of all bombs against them as well.

No roles are reversed. TTP includes DAISH, Al Qaida, Afghan Taliban, Baloch's etc. etc. And they all fighting against Pakistan under the name of TTP. They killing Pak army daily.

It's not flat terrain, so even bombing is not effective. And ground operations will kill a lot of Pakistani army soldiers.

Why they fighting? To bring Islamic governement. They don't consider Pakistan government as muslim.

If bombing ww2 style could stop Taliban Americans would have whiped out Taliban.

Taliban taking KPK and Balochistan is inviteble. Only A bombs might stop them.

So why did afghanistan invade bajaur and mohamand agency and pakistan in 1960 and 1961


what militancy did pakistan support then

Same afghan communists attacked pakistan in the 60s 70s 80s and together with Soviets fanned pashtunistan and baloch separatism eventhough in the 60s 70s we had pashtun army leaders who was ayub khan?

Afghans never accepted pakistan as a state forget the durrand line even if they take kpk balochistan they still won't accept punjab as pakistan , they don't call pakistan pakistan they call it punjab and believe they should run it along with india , videos are there of communists , ana , and now taliban whatever form it is they are namak harami afghanis hatred is towards punjab (pakistan), there is one video of taliban mullah calling punjab as israel.
They have special terms for their own pashtuns that are ally of tajiks or ally of pakistan

So a pathan working for multinational afghanistan tajiks racist insult is gul marjan

Pashtuns serving pakistan army and m rizwan captain of pakistan cricket team will be called a gul khan a racist insult

We've seen their horrible cricketer players and fans get very violent with pakistani players and fans.

Like i said there is only so much pakistan is going to take from these Afghans we don't believe in fairy tale stories of warrior race , undefeated in war when the danda comes out its gonna be brutal.

I don't belive in your defeatist pti attitude that's it's inevitable taliban are going to take over balochisfan and kpk that's why pti is a dangerous cult because it wants to break pakistan .

The problem in pakistan is the deadlock with pti .
 
So why did afghanistan invade bajaur and mohamand agency and pakistan in 1960 and 1961


what militancy did pakistan support then

Same afghan communists attacked pakistan in the 60s 70s 80s and together with Soviets fanned pashtunistan and baloch separatism eventhough in the 60s 70s we had pashtun army leaders who was ayub khan?

Afghans never accepted pakistan as a state forget the durrand line even if they take kpk balochistan they still won't accept punjab as pakistan , they don't call pakistan pakistan they call it punjab and believe they should run it along with india , videos are there of communists , ana , and now taliban whatever form it is they are namak harami afghanis hatred is towards punjab (pakistan), there is one video of taliban mullah calling punjab as israel.
They have special terms for their own pashtuns that are ally of tajiks or ally of pakistan

So a pathan working for multinational afghanistan tajiks racist insult is gul marjan

Pashtuns serving pakistan army and m rizwan captain of pakistan cricket team will be called a gul khan a racist insult

We've seen their horrible cricketer players and fans get very violent with pakistani players and fans.

Like i said there is only so much pakistan is going to take from these Afghans we don't believe in fairy tale stories of warrior race , undefeated in war when the danda comes out its gonna be brutal.

I don't belive in your defeatist pti attitude that's it's inevitable taliban are going to take over balochisfan and kpk that's why pti is a dangerous cult because it wants to break pakistan .

The problem in pakistan is the deadlock with pti .

Well you won't let go of Kashmir and want Afghanistan to let go of their land that was wrongfully made part of Pakistan? What right did Pakistan have to take Afghan land and make it part of Pakistan? What right did they have to include Balochistan in their land?
Even after this many years Afghan identity is well and truely alive among Pakistani Pashtuns. You think TTP is just a religious movement? You think PTM want to be part of Pakistan?
 
Well you won't let go of Kashmir and want Afghanistan to let go of their land that was wrongfully made part of Pakistan? What right did Pakistan have to take Afghan land and make it part of Pakistan? What right did they have to include Balochistan in their land?
Even after this many years Afghan identity is well and truely alive among Pakistani Pashtuns. You think TTP is just a religious movement? You think PTM want to be part of Pakistan?


Kpk are not part of Afghanistan they were part of India and British India and before that sikh empire The durrand line was signed by your king in front of the British it's now an internationally recognised border by the un and intl community even india recognises the border and pakistan.

Balochistan khan of kalat the head of balochistan joined pakistan after seeing prophet muhammad saw in a dream .
Gwadar was bought from the sultan of Oman who had been possessing since the 1700s.

Also FYI majority of Pakistani pathans don't want to join afghanistan .

The problem is afghan infiltration and some elements amongst the tribes in fata whose lands were split by the British after the frontier wars and Afghan wars but that's a world wide phenomenon in many countries , the whole of the modern middle east was created by British but those countries have now accepted their borders .

As for borders why are you possessing northen Afghanistan , wakhan corridor , and central Afghanistan.

Northen Afghanistan was separate kingdoms of turkestan conquered by durranis and sameway hazarajat region conquered by durranis your king amir abdur rahman then forcibly settled pashtuns In these regions why are you occupying tajiks uzbek and hazara and pamiri land. Why are you occupying nuristan and laghman kunar you ethnically cleansed many of the original dardic and gujjar population and pashtunised .
Swat dir was all land owned by gujjars before yusufzais migrated because they were occupied by mughals babar attacked them and even married the yusufzai women . Who told yusufzai to migrate from kandahar to kabul and then take land of rajputs and gujjars whom were already muslim by then.

Even the afridi tribe majority of it is tirahi dards who were forcibly pashtunised .

Wakhan corridor was taken by British from gilgit baltistan and given to afghanistan as a buffer against Russia. Because the exact population lives in neighbouring gilgit baltistan the wakhis and a few Kyrgyzs


Also are you afghan supremicists claim to be jews that's what you wrote in your pata khazana which most scholars have viewed it as a forgery by namak harams.
 
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Well you won't let go of Kashmir and want Afghanistan to let go of their land that was wrongfully made part of Pakistan? What right did Pakistan have to take Afghan land and make it part of Pakistan? What right did they have to include Balochistan in their land?
Even after this many years Afghan identity is well and truely alive among Pakistani Pashtuns. You think TTP is just a religious movement? You think PTM want to be part of Pakistan?

With all due respect to Afghanistan and its right on Sindh, Balochistan, Khyber-Pakhtuns etc, Kashmir historically belongs to Sanatan Dharma and fully belongs to Bharat being the rightful heir to Mahabharat’s legacy.
 
One thing i agree with and it is that Pakistan protected the Taliban and related Islamist elements from the US for decades playing a double game and just when the US position in Afghan weakened, Pakistan unleashed the monster once again on Afghan people not for it to turn back on Pakistan and going on a killing spree against Pakistan.
 
Pakistan invited this upon themselves when they for 20 years trained and hid Taliban. They were enjoying when Afghan forces and Nato forces were attacked. Everytime US or Afghan government would ask Pakistan for corporation Pakistan would deny there are any Taliban in Pakistan or that Pak army is helping them.

Why they fighting? To bring Islamic governement. They don't consider Pakistan government as muslim.

If bombing ww2 style could stop Taliban Americans would have whiped out Taliban.

Taliban taking KPK and Balochistan is inviteble. Only A bombs might stop them.

This is why I have often described Pakistan as a defender of Hindustan in reality. Pakistan is the last frontier which prevents Afghans from resuming their historical wars on Hindustan and former Sikh strongholds of Punjab. Pashtuns mock Pakistanis as Hindus amongst themselves.

True Bharatis should appreciate Pakistan as a buffer zone rather than mistakenly direct all their hatred towards Pakistan and misguided love towards the Taliban.
 
This is why I have often described Pakistan as a defender of Hindustan in reality. Pakistan is the last frontier which prevents Afghans from resuming their historical wars on Hindustan and former Sikh strongholds of Punjab. Pashtuns mock Pakistanis as Hindus amongst themselves.

True Bharatis should appreciate Pakistan as a buffer zone rather than mistakenly direct all their hatred towards Pakistan and misguided love towards the Taliban.

We meet Pashtun bhai log everywhere in the world and they cannot stop showing their love and warmth for Hindustanis and a Sanatani will never lose an opportunity to support his Pathan bhai.
 
We meet Pashtun bhai log everywhere in the world and they cannot stop showing their love and warmth for Hindustanis and a Sanatani will never lose an opportunity to support his Pathan bhai.

Perhaps you can explain why Pashtun Bhais consider Pujabi bhais as mortal enemies then.
 
Moulvi Khairullah Khairkhwa’s statement shows the Taliban openly backing the TTP, even though they used to deny it. This breaks the 2020 Doha Agreement, where they promised not to let Afghan soil be used for terrorism. In response Pakistan has hit TTP bases in Afghanistan, taking out key leaders behind attacks on Pakistan.

The Taliban really need to think this through. Letting the TTP stay is ruining their relationship with Pakistan, a country that has always stood by Afghanistan. If the Taliban underestimate Pakistan or push too far, it could backfire badly for Afghanistan, both financially and diplomatically.
 
The Taliban really need to think this through. Letting the TTP stay is ruining their relationship with Pakistan, a country that has always stood by Afghanistan.

This is nothing but a grand delusion.
No Afghan i ever met shared such beliefs or gratitude of any kind wrt Pakistan. In fact most Afghans I have met across the world when they came to know i am a Bharatiya and a Sanatani could not stop abusing Pakistan. I had to often steer the discussions to another topic like Bollywood and all because i have a soft corner for Pakistan due to Sindhu Ghaati heritage.
 
This is nothing but a grand delusion.
No Afghan i ever met shared such beliefs or gratitude of any kind wrt Pakistan. In fact most Afghans I have met across the world when they came to know i am a Bharatiya and a Sanatani could not stop abusing Pakistan left right and centre. I had to often steer the discussions to another topic like Bollywood and all because i have a soft corner for Pakistan due to Sindhu Ghaati heritage.

While it is true that many Afghans dislike Pakistan, that is because they feel they were not supported as Muslim brothers in their fight to protect OBL. Among themselves they refer to Pakistanis as Hindus as a derogatory term, but obviously as you present yourself as a Bharati they won't say this openly to your face. The truth lies in actions not words. Ask them if their leadership will encourage building of Hindu temples in Kandahar where locals can be encouraged to explore worship of Hindu deities and you will get your answer.
 
From what?
Ask the women in Afghanistan and Iran , what kind of life they are living in . They deserve liberty. Over all people of Iran and Afghanistan need to be liberated from oppressor Mullah regimes.
 
Kpk are not part of Afghanistan they were part of India and British India and before that sikh empire The durrand line was signed by your homosexual child molesting king in front of the British it's now an internationally recognised border by the un and intl community even india recognises the border and pakistan.

Balochistan khan of kalat the head of balochistan joined pakistan after seeing prophet muhammad saw in a dream .
Gwadar was bought from the sultan of Oman who had been possessing since the 1700s.

Also FYI majority of Pakistani pathans don't want to join afghanistan .

The problem is afghan infiltration and some elements amongst the tribes in fata whose lands were split by the British after the frontier wars and Afghan wars but that's a world wide phenomenon in many countries , the whole of the modern middle east was created by British but those countries have now accepted their borders .

As for borders why are you possessing northen Afghanistan , wakhan corridor , and central Afghanistan.

Northen Afghanistan was separate kingdoms of turkestan conquered by durranis and sameway hazarajat region conquered by durranis your king amir abdur rahman then forcibly settled pashtuns In these regions why are you occupying tajiks uzbek and hazara and pamiri land. Why are you occupying nuristan and laghman kunar you ethnically cleansed many of the original dardic and gujjar population and pashtunised .
Swat dir was all land owned by gujjars before yusufzais migrated because they were occupied by mughals babar attacked them and even married the yusufzai women . Who told yusufzai to migrate from kandahar to kabul and then take land of rajputs and gujjars whom were already muslim by then.

Even the afridi tribe majority of it is tirahi dards who were forcibly pashtunised .

Wakhan corridor was taken by British from gilgit baltistan and given to afghanistan as a buffer against Russia. Because the exact population lives in neighbouring gilgit baltistan the wakhis and a few Kyrgyzs


Also are you afghan supremicists claim to be jews that's what you wrote in your pata khazana which most scholars have viewed it as a forgery by namak harams.
I have reported your post for homophobic and racist slurs. If you want to discuss do it as an adult. I don't have time for kids who can't control their emotion.
 
As an Indian I would definitely feel safer with Punjabi/Mohajir Pak army in the neighborhood relatively speaking than the Taliban lol. Not sure how I feel about this war.

Yes. Taliban is good for keeping the Pak army busy from an Indian perspective but a full scale war is big issue for India either ways.

A independent or democratic or even a non-tribalesque dictator with eye on development from Afghan will be good for India but Taliban is bad news the closer they get.
 
Ask the women in Afghanistan and Iran , what kind of life they are living in . They deserve liberty. Over all people of Iran and Afghanistan need to be liberated from oppressor Mullah regimes.

They've just banned windows in Afghanistan

They are much better Muslims than us
 
Ask the women in Afghanistan and Iran , what kind of life they are living in . They deserve liberty. Over all people of Iran and Afghanistan need to be liberated from oppressor Mullah regimes.

I asked women friends of Iran this question and they said they hate their government and want to live in an open minded society. They didn’t openly say it but it obviously meant that they reject Sharia law.

Unfortunately i don’t have a female friend from Afghanistan yet. When I make one I will ask and update. From secondary research they must be extremely unhappy with the Sharia law in Afghanistan.
 
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The original premise of a war between the 2 islamics is moot since it is already ongoing.

The only possibility to be questioned now is how soon the "real" islamics take over and implement "true" shariah.

Whatever "real" and "true" means in this context.
 
@cricketjoshila We don’t consider the Taliban as brothers because for us they are Khawarjis. They are chaos creators who seek to impose religion according to their own will.

And yes if India supports the Taliban,l trust me they will bite India very hard and no vaccination will work.

The situation in Bangladesh is different as I explained in the Bangladesh thread.
 
Attacked spinwam area of north waziristan again.

Absolutely embarrassing stuff they are not even a proper army but a guerilla force

What's the point of producing local drones , buying turkish and Chinese drones, and buying mi35 and cobra helicopters if you can't patrol the skies 24/7.

An mi35 hind will light up the backsides of these Afghans in pretty quick fashion.

Pathetic establishment stores the toys away sends soldiers to exposed isolated areas in mud walls they even have to fetch water on foot and then uses tin can dala pick ups and mules as transportation no wonder everyday soldiers are being killed
 
Lol. Trump withdrew whole of NATO from Afghanistan last time. This time, a change of policy for this region will be a peace of cake.
The guy has been all over the place with his policies, last time H1b was curtailed this time it doesn’t seem like it if anything the opposite.

I have a conspiracy theory, which is that now he is an establishment candidate after all the cases.
 
@cricketjoshila We don’t consider the Taliban as brothers because for us they are Khawarjis. They are chaos creators who seek to impose religion according to their own will.

And yes if India supports the Taliban,l trust me they will bite India very hard and no vaccination will work.

The situation in Bangladesh is different as I explained in the Bangladesh thread.
Why would India trust Taliban , how did the narrative change so much in 2-3 years from India got an embarrassed to India trust Taliban?
 
I asked women friends of Iran this question and they said they hate their government and want to live in an open minded society. They didn’t openly say it but it obviously meant that they reject Sharia law.

Unfortunately i don’t have a female friend from Afghanistan yet. When I make one I will ask and update. From secondary research they must be extremely unhappy with the Sharia law in Afghanistan.

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Even you're poorly educated, there is no such thing as Sharia Law and what they practicing in Iran and Afghanistan is nothing to do with Sharia Law or Islamic law/culture. They are just power hungry Mullahs who are using " Sharia" or " Islam" to stay in power .
 
Bangladeshis liking of Pakistanis and Afghans dislike towards Pakistanis cannot be changed irrespective of the government or ruler.

Hopefully GOI effin knows this by now.
 
This is what happens to internal security when the entire Fauji apparatus is focus on rigging elections, kidnapping judges, molesting PTI workers, torturing journalists, picking up family members of MPs and then forcing MPs into making press conferences. When the entire focus is on this borders will see trouble.

You only have to see an example of Balochistan. A province in total control from media to governance to natural resources to finances....in total control of the faujis. And resembles sub-saharan Africa in poverty, crime and healthcare.

Certain people in this thread support these people in uniform and label others as cultists. If they can see a mirror.


@thelandofthebravepeople I agree with some of your points. But this issue isn't simply Taliban this or that. Afghans have formented trouble since the 60s. And only got their dues back from us in the 80s. However since then I am sick of our meddling in Afghanistan. The current situation sums up our policy and its pathetic dividends. And I have seen pictures of our 'strikes' in Afghanistan, of little children blown up and dead. And as a father I have realised this is what our army excels at. The last 2 years of terror inflicted on the population reinforces that.
 
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