Hasan123
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A test great is a fair rating for me. His struggles against the top seamers of this era are what prevent me from rating him as an ATG of the game.
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Great player. England have struggled so hard since Strauss retired to find a decent opener but Cook has always been there and is a solid player. Never far from a big score. He's still got a few years left playing for England. He most likely will be an English great but not so sure about ATG.
Alastair Cook is one of England's greats but I wouldn't put him as an ATG.
For me, one of the principal factors for someone being an ATG is that that player then becomes a part of the discussion when compiling a World's Best XI team in any format. Whether he makes it to the team or not is irrelevant but for us to label someone as an ATG, he must ensure that he at least becomes part of the discussion.
Does Alastair Cook merits to be in the discussion for an ATG? Firstly, we can safely eliminate Cook's ODI and T20 careers as he is nowhere near greatness in those formats. Coming to Tests, Cook's claim to fame has been of him being an opener. Now when compiling the World's Best XI - Tests, how many openers queue ahead of Alastair Cook? I would say aplenty.
1) Sunil Gavaskar
2) Jack Hobbs
3) Len Hutton
4) Matthew Hayden
5) Graeme Smith
The fact that this thread has been made is mainly because of the sheer amount of runs Cook has scored. 12000+. That is a phenomenal achievement. But he's also played a lot of Test matches to reach that figure and to that extent it sort of loses its viability.
There is no doubt that Cook ATG proponents will point to his memorable series performances in India and Australia to further the point that that is something that most openers haven't achieved. But what needs to be realized is that Cook's 2010 Ashes performance, while wondrous, was seemingly a one-time affair. He consistently struggled in Australia in the rest of the 3 series he has played down under. An average of 27 in 2006, 25 in 2013 and 47 in 2017. We all know that 47 average in 2017 is propelled by his one innings of 244 that came when the series was gone. Apart from that he was bang average. Similarly in India he has been poor apart from that series in 2012. He did make one-off centuries in other series but he hardly had any influence on the overall series. <B>Also from 2009-2012 Cook averaged 76 in Test cricket signifying that that was his purple patch.</B> Nothing to take away from those performances but in order to be ATG's, you need consistency across your career.
Like I said in another thread, that Cook is my favorite English player ever as he is the poster child for hard work. And has spent his career with a lot of dignity and for that he will forever have a great place in Test cricket. However, when it comes to selecting the world's best test XI, sadly Cook doesn't even make it to the discussion and that is why I don't rate him to be an ATG.
Between 2009-12, he averages 55.28.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...9;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting
He is not an ATG. Just a very good player.
Cook should come out of international retirement. His country needs him. As his consistently strong county form has shown, he is still more than good enough to play for England. We need some experience at the top of the order.
In an IK like scenario from the late 80’s, perhaps the PM should request he return for the series down under![]()
Why did this man retire? Even now he walks back into the England side. 2 years on one still feels that the England openers are just a few more failures away from being dropped. Dom Sibley exemplifies that.
If he had retired from cricket altogether, I would have got it. But here he is scoring centuries for Essex whilst the national team openers sometimes look like they couldn't buy a run!
Great player but not as good as KP and Root.
Sir Alastair Cook batted for most of the day as he ground out a tenacious century to provide Essex with a strong platform in their County Championship match against Yorkshire.
The former England captain occupied the crease doggedly for his 107 from 268 balls, sharing a third-wicket partnership of 174 with fellow left-hander Paul Walter to guide Essex to 234-3 after being put in at Chelmsford.
BBC
So Cook follows up his 107 in the first innings with 102 not out in the second…this man remains one of the very best batsmen in England right now.
If he was Pakistani, he would have been back in the team 5 minutes after he retired. England should convince him to play - he would transform their fortunes.
Hopefully the new skipper Ben Stokes is on the phone to Cookie right now!!