Aamir would be the most over hyped cricketer in Pakistan's history. Babar is improving by the series and is a productive player for Pakistan. His strokes are beautiful and pleasing to watch. I hope he stays away from T-20 and concentrate on Test and ODIs and not change his batting style to suite T20 cricket.
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Babar is overhyped eh ? 
No doubt he has things to improve but he is 1 Pakistan player who I can see being world class and playing all 3 formats for years to come.
No doubt he has things to improve but he is 1 Pakistan player who I can see being world class and playing all 3 formats for years to come.
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How is Babar overhyped?
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On this forum, Harris Sohail is the most overhyped
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I think Haris Sohail has the skills as his has shown many a times, his fitness (mental or physical) lets him down.
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When I say overhyped, I mean it in the sense that there is that one player who 90% of the fans back through thick and thin, no matter what he does it’s positive. All of his negatives are overlooked. Harris Sohail is that one player. Only fans, hardly any critics. I’m not taking a dig at senior posters including mods, but he is definetly their blue eyed boy.
Babar is not over hyped but he needs to stop throwing his wicket away after 50's & 60's. Those type of scores don't help your team. He needs to convert his starts. For example, his last ODI hundred was in Bulawayo against Zimbabwe in July 2018, before that October 2017 against Sri Lanka. So for about a year and a half he has only 1 ODI hundred. I remember him getting few starts during this time. Since the beginning to 2018 his ODI average has dipped to 39.1 with just 1 hundred in 22 innings.
Even though his Test average is good during the same period, he has only 1 Test hundred in 18 innings. He has 7 fifties. Unless you score hundreds, you will not help your team much in overseas Tests or in UAE.
Even though his Test average is good during the same period, he has only 1 Test hundred in 18 innings. He has 7 fifties. Unless you score hundreds, you will not help your team much in overseas Tests or in UAE.
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Once he fulfills this small wish of test average of 45, I can understand if he gets hyped from the fans but not now and after that only, the comparisons with fab Four would be fine.
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Tbh i am not 100% convinced about his mental strength.
When the going gets tough and chants in the crowd get louder, thats the time where men seperate themselves from the boys. You can either wilt under pressure and freeze. Or you can overcome the nerves and rise to the occassion.
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It's not all about WC. He is 24 currently, so failing in WC is not the end of everything for him and neither does just succeeding in WC is all for him. He will have several more shots for it.
What he needs is to start becoming a prolifc run-scorer in tests and ODIs across most conditions and against most opponents. If he performs at that level in these two formats, then T20s performance aren't that a deal, although if he does well there as well, then it's a bonus.
As of recently on pp the most hyped mediocre player is Shan Masood, ppl have even asked for him to be made captain after 3 good matches forgetting how terrible he was prior to these 3 matches. Imam has been criticised for potential neoptism in his selection even though he averages over 50 but Shan who arguably has nepotism to thank even mote than Imam is hyped as some kind of world beater.
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if babar somehow improves his mental strength , he will the best Pakistan ever produced, the guy is technically very good .It is unfortunate he belongs to Akmals family
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He already is the best Pakistan has ever produced with the bat, completely in line with modern batting requirements. I fail to see how Inzimam, Yousuf and Miandad would have adapted to the modern requirements of batting today.
Babar cannot be told he is the best we have produced as it would get to his head, but he is definetly better than those before him at this very point
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Now that you have put it in a public forum, i am sure it will reach Babar and get to his head.
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Yes, most definitely. Had an average series yet hailed as some kind of batting lord who regularly beat the opposition black and blue and win matches left, right, center single handedly.
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Burnnnnnnn
Same guys who go around saying the Indian domestic scene has plenty of batsmen similar to Babar lol
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Not overhyped at all , he’s already amongst the best in LOI circuit & a much improved performance in tests vs SA means a dozen tests & he’ll be top 20 for sure
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what a fail thread
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you sold on him in t20s yet?
He averaged 36 in the test series against SA with no hundreds. It was a good performance considering the conditions and how he batted positively, but it certainly wasn't the groundbreaking performance that people on here made it to be.
Well based on your post now he is the most over hyped Pakistani player. Comparing him to Miandad, Inzimam and Yousuf at this stage is foolhardy. He is nowhere compare to Miandad at 24 years of age and if you don't believe me please go back and run the stats.
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Dude I am an Indian what could an above average Pakistani batsman possibly do to make me "Burnnnn"?
I am sorry but his current performances don't make me go wow, I have seen better, much much better. Come back after he get his average above 45 in the format that matters the most. You can hype him up to the Moon all you want but don't expect everyone to board the same train.
Yes he has been doing pretty well, I just commented on his chase effort as being exceptional. Thoroughly enjoyed the stroke quality and the rate at which he scored. He has definitely come at home in the t20 format after his early struggles.
I will be eager to see him perform in the PSL now after his exceptional run in the t20 side.
I will also say he was the only batsman that showed intent in the test matches. Should've gotten to a 100 in one of the matches, but that is a very small negative to an overall exceptional tour in South Africa.
Don't want to cherry pick on his small mistakes when he has been doing so well and easily the most at home batsman for the side throughout the tour.
Don't want to cherry pick on his small mistakes when he has been doing so well and easily the most at home batsman for the side throughout the tour.
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Yes he have single hundred so far in test
Ashwin test average 29
jadeja test average 32
babar azam 35 test average(in 2018 he have better test batting average then then king kohli,pujara,root).
Now crawl back to your cave
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Yes he have single hundred so far in test
Ashwin test average 29
jadeja test average 32
babar azam 35 test average(in 2018 he have better test batting average then then king kohli,pujara,root).
Now cruel back to your cave
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So he is averaging like 3 runs more than an Indian tailender? Cool.
What about an answer to this?
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Do you need further humiliation ?i have give you his last year test number which is 56 average(better than your whole top 5 in test) that too after tough tour of Sa.do you want to see what were numbers for rahane .pujara,vijay in last test series against sa compare to babar?
averaging 3 better than your tailender but have performed better than your so called top 5(exculding kohli)in sa test series
he has time in on his side he is in top 5 in odis ranking this excuse of your won,t last long .Averaging over 50 in odis in SA and aus which is not bad for 24 year old
Humiliation is getting whitewashed by the worst South African team since their readmission in 10 days.
Don't give me selective stats like. I can make babar look like the worst batsman of all time using such selective stats but i'm not going to do that. All i know is he averages barely higher than Indian tailenders.
We will see when this happens.
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so now you want to change topic ?it is funny you mock me about overseas result when your team was beaten left right center not long ago.
what selective stats it seems your upper area of body doesn't work properly .There is thing called in cricket ""improvement""which is what i was referring too .It is pretty funny you ignore my question why a player that average barely above your number 1 team top 5(excluding kohli)have better test average from last one year and out performed them in Sa
Not long ago we became the first Asian team to win a test series in Australia where you have not even managed to draw a match since the last 25 years i think. We won a test in South Africa last year which you last did wayyy back in 2007. We won a test series in England in 2007 which you did for the last time in 1996. We have won 4 series in West Indies while you have won just one. New Zealand is the only place where you have done better than us and full credit for that.
So yeah tell us more about us getting beaten left, right and centre.
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your denial won,t change the fact india have one of the most pathetic overseas record in test .Actually it is useless to compare current pak with indian test team india is far ahead of pakistan who have regress from 2017 .i am talking about this record in overseas which is improved little by beating weak aus side.this was i referring to getting beaten left, right and centre in overseas
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Haven't seen you in that 'Babar v KL Rahul' thread in a while. Time to bump a few of your posts from that thread to have some fun, or would you rather keep quiet?
KL Rahul is out of form. It happens to every batsman in the world.
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Then it's better to keep quiet, rather than go on a cheerleading marathon in this thread. You are once again dissing on the clear winner between your choice and the obvious choice from that thread.
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No the records are still held by 
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But he may get there soon though
and .But he may get there soon though
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Yeah, but when someone mentions that Babar had a difficult start to his Test career but has started turning it around recently (many top batsmen went through that process), you keep going on about "3 runs better average than Indian tailenders" and "don't give me selective stats".
Struggling early on in one's career isn't a big deal, even the great Sachin Tendulkar was averaging 30 after 70 ODIs.
How one responds to the early struggles is what makes or breaks a career.
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Either you are ignorant or too young to remember Miandad because he was a beast of player at 24
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Man reading this thread will give you an impression that Babar single handedly beaten the living daylights out of the Saffers, while in reality he had an average test series (Good by Pak standard) and a mediocre ODI run. If this is not overhyping I don't know what is.
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Maybe he is. But I like the way he plays, so i don't mind the over hype.
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hype is driven by drought.
For me the positive in this series was that he seemed to playing in a manner which helps the team cause as well. When he played in odis series in Australia, it was sharjeel who was doing all the heavy lifting in keeping Pakistan in the game.
For me the positive in this series was that he seemed to playing in a manner which helps the team cause as well. When he played in odis series in Australia, it was sharjeel who was doing all the heavy lifting in keeping Pakistan in the game.
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Lol, y r u so triggered?
No one is overhyping him.
Just read the comments properly about him. Every pakistani is aware that he needs to improve to become one of the best. Mate we're not like indians that start calling players the best even before their own international debut.
For example, i saw people calling Prithvi shaw and Shubman gill better than babar. Like what???
And indians get triggered when people compare babar to kohli. smh
I'm more interested in him kicking on in tests and odis.
Psl will just be fun for him. I look forward to watching it
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This is OPs most ill-advised thread. Babar Azam is a fantastic LOI batsman who is also quickly improving in test cricket. He's ahead of where the likes of Kohli, de Villiers and Amla were at the same age and although that does not tell us anything about the future, it does get you excited for what is to come.
No, Rahul is in form. He's just not that good and definitely not as good as Babar, who at 23, is probably a better player than Rahul will ever be.
Being left out of India's WC squad in favor of Rayudu will be the final nail in the coffin of the so-called challenger of Babar's.
No, Rahul is in form. He's just not that good and definitely not as good as Babar, who at 23, is probably a better player than Rahul will ever be.
Being left out of India's WC squad in favor of Rayudu will be the final nail in the coffin of the so-called challenger of Babar's.
Babar and Rahul average around the same, though Rahul has 5 centuries (including hundreds in Australia and England), whereas Babar's only hundred is in the UAE.
In T20s, Rahul averages 43 with a strike rate of 148 and two centuries. Babar averages 54 but with a strike rate of just 128 and no centuries. Quite comparable careers.
So it is very strange to say that Babar is a better player than Rahul will ever be.
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Rahool's 90 in Bangalore was more influential inning than any impact Babar has created till now in test cricket.
That inning not just won India a match against a well-prepared strong Aus side but shifted the whole momentum of the series and continued India's home dominance.
That inning not just won India a match against a well-prepared strong Aus side but shifted the whole momentum of the series and continued India's home dominance.
Because no batsman in the history of cricket has ever been out of form, right? How do you come up with such gems so frequently?
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babar azam don,t play on flat wickets like rahul do in t20s uae is not place where he can score at the strike rate of over 140 regularly.if you want see ability of babar on flat wicket do check his record in SA where he finishes t20 series with strike rate of 157
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it seems you don,t watch babar azam much.he did score 65 notout (due to injury) against england in seaming condition where england was bowled out of lower score.That 65 runs for crucial for pak to take a lead and win that test match
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It’s difficult scoring 100’s batting or be a match winner batting at 6 with a tail that is useless. Next step for him now is to go up the order and show what he can do - what’s exciting and a rarity with Pakistan Batsmen is is that he is improving in every format. Next stage of his career with define him..
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Yes, he is overhyped.
A Williamson level batsmen in LOs and a Yousuf level at max in test.
Won't go down as an ATG or anywhere close to it.
A Williamson level batsmen in LOs and a Yousuf level at max in test.
Won't go down as an ATG or anywhere close to it.
Babar Azam over hyped and over rated?
Hi guys as passionate follower of pakistan cricket I had high hopes for this guy but in the last 2 to 3 years everytime pakistan has needed him he has threw his wicket away by playing hopeless shots its either he cant handle the pressure or he just simply is not as good as they say he is
Hi guys as passionate follower of pakistan cricket I had high hopes for this guy but in the last 2 to 3 years everytime pakistan has needed him he has threw his wicket away by playing hopeless shots its either he cant handle the pressure or he just simply is not as good as they say he is
If you are not good enough you can't play the way he did against cummins while the rest of them didn't have a clue. Though i agree he played a pathetic shot to get out to a nothing bowler when he had done all the hard work. I am sure he will improve in this regard.
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What is the purpose of this thread, he is playing his 1st WC give him a break.Mark rampakash didn't average above 30 in internationals.
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Are you u high or something. Comparing Babar to an average club cricketer. Babar was unlucky yesterday, he looked set to win the game for us. Shot was on execution was not there happens in cricket.
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Not overrated, but he lacks killer instinct. Hopefully it will come with time, but it cannot be guaranteed.
Some players never develop it, for example Amla.
Some players never develop it, for example Amla.
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Wasn't unlucky. Bad execution is not bad luck. He didn't make his innings count.
He looked like he was having a net whilst batting that is how comfortable he looked for his 30 runs.
True. Babar wasn't unlucky yesterday. It was a rash stroke on his part which caused his downfall.
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I don't think he is overhyped or overrated. No one considers him in the category of the big 4 in the first place.
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No one rates him best in the world, he is rated as one of the best upcoming prospects and that's apt rating for him.
you guys are completely missing the point here he been in the team for few years now name me one match where he has won for pakistan due to his batting if I am not mistaken Mohammed hafeez has played more match winning knocks then babar azam in the last few years yet hafeez is ridiculed by our fans yet they hype this babar up yet he never deliveres
No he's not overrated or overhyped because noone has claimed him to be a match winner. Is he a talented batsman? Yes. Does he have the potential to be an ATG? Yes. Is he winning Pakistan matches? No.
In conclusion: he's not overrated or overhyped and he needs to step up his game to win Pakistan games.
In conclusion: he's not overrated or overhyped and he needs to step up his game to win Pakistan games.
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He's a beautiful batsman to watch,the most elegant pakistani batsman since anwar.NOT a hack.Classic first rate batsman and the future of pak batting and captain too.Usually dont rate pak batsmen,but have always rated this guy and his batting against steyn and last match drives against cummins made me a fan of him.
The main problem i find with azam.He's a boundary hitter,and needs to improve his ability to score with percentage cricket.Thats how you score big consistently.
He's also not a natural six hitter.So improvement in his power game like kohli did could be useful for him in limited overs formats.
The main problem i find with azam.He's a boundary hitter,and needs to improve his ability to score with percentage cricket.Thats how you score big consistently.
He's also not a natural six hitter.So improvement in his power game like kohli did could be useful for him in limited overs formats.
No you're wrong... He's probably the only batsman in the team who manages to get singles and get off strike, hence why he always plays around 100 strike rate with no big shots. He doesn't need to be a big boundary hitter. Root, Williamson and Smith are not big boundary hitters and are doing perfectly well. He needs to make sure he doesn't lose his concentration and play a rash shot (like the pull yesterday or the flash outside off stump).
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Overrated? Really Pakistan fans? You are an ungrateful bunch of people. I remember Indians were also impatient with Kohli but that is more to do with his attitude but Babar? I'm aghast at your thoughts. Babar is anything but overrated or overhyped or soft. He still has to develop certain temperamental aspects to his game but he's already one of the best.
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He is an excellent player- already one of the best in the world and hopefully will only get better.
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Looks like OP rated Babar as second coming of Sachin or Lara and now feels let down. It's his own fault for overrating Babar rest of us rated him aptly.
Us Pak fans don't like to hear the truth. Yes he is overrated coz he never completes the job. Looks good then gets out to an incredibly stupid shot. World class players stay at the wicket and finish the job. Being great to watch does not make him world class. Even Wahab Riaz can be a great batsman to watch on his day!
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He is a very good player who is pretty consistent. He just played a great knock vs England. This knock he was looking imperious. His failure to convert starts like yesterday puts him just below the elites. I think he can develop this in the future.
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He is a very consistent and good player. he deserves his hype. Someone who is averaging 50 after 3 years of international cricket and aged 24 deserves all the hype he gets..
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