Is Bangladesh the best Asian ODI side after India?

[Poison]

Poor lads are mentally shot when it comes to Pakistan.

I was almost certain it was literally the sight of Afridi that made them clock out but it seems to be an all-round mediocrity against Pakistan.

 

[BDfanforever]

Yes, we love him and there are a very strong reason for this.We are 6th in ODI ranking and our captain is a main mentor behind it.He is a fighter and inshaAllah he will come back hard.

As a player he is a trundler. As a captain he is good.

 

[KingKhanWC]

They are improving but have to prove it now in England.

Imo they will not a win a game in the CT but let's see.

 

[Mainul]

As a player he is a trundler. As a captain he is good.

He is having off form.He always contributed either with ball or bat in the past on a consistent basis.His bowling record is more than decent.

 

[Coconut]

As a player he is a trundler. As a captain he is good.

He's rubbish as a captain too. After so many years he still hasn't learned that he isn't suitable for death bowling. He's a rubbish player as well as a rubbish captain. He isn't good enough to lead a school team let alone leading a national side.

 

[Poison]

On a serious note I never rate Bangladesh against Pakistan but they have some serious young talent who should see them become much more competitive for the next few years. Mustafi and Taskin have a lot of potential and Sabbir (kid is a gun)/Soumya surrounded by Shakib, Tamim and Mushfiq should make for an imposing team in Asia at least.

 

[Coconut]

which team is you supporting

Bangladesh off course

 

[The_Odd_One]

Good to see Pakistan consistently scoring 300 plus scores in ODIs these days. Once the openers problem is sorted out, this team can really do well.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Good to see Pakistan consistently scoring 300 plus scores in ODIs these days. Once the openers problem is sorted out, this team can really do well.

Sharjeel would really have finished this match off by the 40th over. His ban has severely affected our LOI teams.

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[Eagle_Eye]

Expected result.... what's the big surprise?

 

[Syed1]

Sharjeel would really have finished this match off by the 40th over. His ban has severely affected our LOI teams.

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Kasam se.. I honestly think Sharjeel's departure may also effect Babar Azam. With a blistering Sharjeel at the other end Babar can just keep rotating the strike or punching through gaps in the powerplays to get himself in and then play long innings after Sharjeel inevitably falls.

Without Sharjeel and with Azhar/Shehzad, Babar is having to come in and be the aggressor since the person at the other end will be tuk tuking to his heart's content.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Kasam se.. I honestly think Sharjeel's departure may also effect Babar Azam. With a blistering Sharjeel at the other end Babar can just keep rotating the strike or punching through gaps in the powerplays to get himself in and then play long innings after Sharjeel inevitably falls.

Without Sharjeel and with Azhar/Shehzad, Babar is having to come in and be the aggressor since the person at the other end will be tuk tuking to his heart's content.

This is such a massive problem right now...... !!! Like seriously, when Babar comes in I am 100% sure he has no confidence in his partner and needs to keep the RR in check and play the anchor as well since basically Shehzad / Azhar are non existent as ODI bats

 

[Hamza_]

Kasam se.. I honestly think Sharjeel's departure may also effect Babar Azam. With a blistering Sharjeel at the other end Babar can just keep rotating the strike or punching through gaps in the powerplays to get himself in and then play long innings after Sharjeel inevitably falls.

Without Sharjeel and with Azhar/Shehzad, Babar is having to come in and be the aggressor since the person at the other end will be tuk tuking to his heart's content.

Sahibzada Farhan can be even better I think.

 

[Syed1]

If Bangladesh beat India in their second warm up would that make Pakistan the best ODI team in Asia

 

[squarecut]

If Bangladesh beat India in their second warm up would that make Pakistan the best ODI team in Asia

No, that would make Bangladesh the best ODI team in Asia.

 

[Varun]

Well...what's the opinion now?

 

[AlizeeFan]

No matter what Pakistan won't be this bad.

 

[czar]

This is how a Team like Bangladesh needs to be dealt with, and yet some teams find it difficult to defeat than barring a law over miracle.

 

[Hamza_]

Terrible team with some terrible fans.

Brought down to earth by India hopefully.

 

[blue_champion]

poor performance today but they are still the 2nd best asian side after India

 

[Speedster777]

Bangladesh should have beaten India. I think they got mentally under pressure or just having a bad day. Anyways,It's just a warm up so doesn't matter expecting better from them in next match.

 

[Hamza_]

Even our 42 year good old Afridi can smash Bangladesh all over the park.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Why has this thread gone on for 4 pages? What a silly question. Like I said it takes more than the odd series win at home.

 

[Coconut]

Why has this thread gone on for 4 pages? What a silly question. Like I said it takes more than the odd series win at home.

It's still true. Bangladesh is still ahead of Pakistan in LOIs. It hasn't changed due that fluke 8th wicket partnership of Pakistan.

 

[Mp812]

Wow, the second best team could score only 84...about 10 runs less than what a non regular in team Cartick scored.
If BD is second best team, the gap between the teams seems big.
Anyway it was warm up game a no pressure game and BD play well only under pressure.

 

[KingKhanWC]

It's still true. Bangladesh is still ahead of Pakistan in LOIs. It hasn't changed due that fluke 8th wicket partnership of Pakistan.

How did you arrive at this conclusion?

 

[Shutdown Corner]

Why has this thread gone on for 4 pages? What a silly question. Like I said it takes more than the odd series win at home.

like the odd spell away in a practice match where the captain doesnt even bother to show up?

its like a waiter getting a big tip and thinking hes richer than Bill Gates cuz he outearned him that second.

 

[Chrish]

1 match doesn't prove anything.. Bangladesh's rise very well be short-lived but they will have to consistently fail against other teams for a year before being written off completely.

 

[todfod 11]

Second best asian side bundled out for 84 )
they played 20 spinners on a seaming wicket not a single spinner was worth watching... sunzamul and mosaddek are not even qualified gully spinners. what a shame the chest beating bangladeshi came up with this team..

 

[todfod 11]

Even our 42 year good old Afridi can smash Bangladesh all over the park.

Afridi would hit sixes single handedly to these joke of a spinners.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Bangladesh is going to have a disastrous CT. Two bad losses in warm ups must have dented the team's confidence.

 

[Mian]

Only good at playing at home exposed so badly against big boys in CT. Pakistan won against number side and Sri lanka won against number 2 side in these conditions. Lol at being second best asian side after india

 

[czar]

My Rankings.

1) India
2) Pakistan ( Not too far behind India)
3) Sri Lanka ( Not too Far behind Pakistan)
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.Daylight
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.Bangaldesh

Performance in big tournament on foreign pitches matters a lot than the spin assisting pitches of Dhaka and Chittagong.

 

[bujhee kom]

My Rankings.

1) India
2) Pakistan ( Not too far behind India)
3) Sri Lanka ( Not too Far behind Pakistan)
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.Daylight
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.Bangaldesh

Performance in big tournament on foreign pitches matters a lot than the spin assisting pitches of Dhaka and Chittagong.

Joke.
Still India 1st then Bd, then Lanka and Pak.
Last series 3-0.

 

[s.h.a.k]

Bangladesh been a waste of space in the Champions Trophy. Would been better if West Indies would have been in it instead. Would been more competitive. Bangladesh playing like a minnow as always. Shame they been playing for so long but still when it matters in big tournaments they play like their standards like minnows.

 

[mhraja]

2nd best Asian team currently dancing.

 

[Rafa]

Bangaldesh has lowered down the quality of this tournament. They have provided flop performances in all the three matches.

Don't deserve to participate in any Top Teams Tournaments in the future.

Bunch of minnows. Forever struggling team.

 

[s.h.a.k]

ICC needs to take test status away from this minnow team. All those years and when it comes big stage they play like minnows. Watching Bangladesh is like watching Scotland playing. Waste of space they been. Better if Afghanistan or West Indies were here instead of them.

 

[dauntless]

Bangladesh's bowling is worst of the lot.Their batting is not world class either maybe on par with Pakistan.Srilanka's batting is better than both pak and bangladesh.Srilanka's bowling is slightly Better or equal to Bangladesh's bowling.
India
Pakistan
Srilanka
Bangladesh

 

[hafeezrocks]

Pathetic Cricket side. Won't ever become a competitive side .

 

[BDwarriors]

Bangaldesh has lowered down the quality of this tournament. They have provided flop performances in all the three matches.

Don't deserve to participate in any Top Teams Tournaments in the future.

Bunch of minnows. Forever struggling team.

300+ against england flop performance? Folding NZ within 270 flop performance?

 

[Alamgeer]

WI deserved to be in CT. Far better side than this bunch of minnows.

 

[KingKhanWC]

They are improving but have to prove it now in England.

Imo they will not a win a game in the CT but let's see.

Hate to say I told you so but I did tell you guys

 

[BDwarriors]

WI deserved to be in CT. Far better side than this bunch of minnows.

How? Because won against afg? With 79 point?

 

[10sion]

Bangladesh been a waste of space in the Champions Trophy. Would been better if West Indies would have been in it instead. Would been more competitive. Bangladesh playing like a minnow as always. Shame they been playing for so long but still when it matters in big tournaments they play like their standards like minnows.

But both teams reached the World Cup quarter finals....there is no guarantee that West Indies would do any better.

 

[pakistani pride]

Away from asia / uae pak will always be in the game if there is something in the wicket cause of the bowlers.

 

[Executioner]

Looking at the comments people still think we are minnows. We don't get to play overseas much

Also bear in mind we have 3 of the better sides in the competitions

And did someone just mention the nonsense that Bangladesh should have its test status revoked and you question the sanity of cricket fans in Bangladesh.

We are a decent team. We will get better​and better.

 

[Messiah]

Worst asian side until they win a tournament of worth. U dont just become best after winning a few. every team has purple patches

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Let the match finish first.

 

[MilkyWay]

Joke.
Still India 1st then Bd, then Lanka and Pak.
Last series 3-0.

hahahahahah.... last series....last world cup 100 by mehmudullah...last this ..last tht... u forgot the humiliating defeats for years tht u got at hands of all teams...suddenly just win a handful games and u cant even forget tht... lol...

this is wat is wrong with bangla fans... its the illusion of being the best when they cant even compete at any level anywhere other than at home

 

[10sion]

hahahahahah.... last series....last world cup 100 by mehmudullah...last this ..last tht... u forgot the humiliating defeats for years tht u got at hands of all teams...suddenly just win a handful games and u cant even forget tht... lol...

this is wat is wrong with bangla fans... its the illusion of being the best when they cant even compete at any level anywhere other than at home

Wait so does history matter or not?

Kenya got into semis of 2003 world cup. Where are they now?

Bangladesh lost to Canada in 2003 world cup. Where is Kenya/Zimbabwe/Scotland/Canada right now?

Bangladesh took a filthy long time to become an average team atleast. Where are the rest? West Indies are detoriating. pakistan are not as strong as they were (rebuilding now but they have been rebuilding for years too).

Years of humilating defeats -- yes we remember them. What do you want now? We are ranked higher than your country. We didnt write the algorithm of the rankings table. Man get some good hard facts to argue.

 

[10sion]

Worst asian side until they win a tournament of worth. U dont just become best after winning a few. every team has purple patches

So New Zealand is not a good team. When have they won something of worth?

 

[Mamoon]

The premature bumps, oh dear.

It's tough to recall the last time so many people were left red-faced in one day...

A lot of PPers have brutally embarrassed themselves.

 

[StreetSmart]

Wow well played Bangla Brothers Now my prayers are England should beat Australia tomorrow

 

[KingKhanWC]

The premature bumps, oh dear.

It's tough to recall the last time so many people were left red-faced in one day...

A lot of PPers have brutally embarrassed themselves.

I hold my hand up, thought they wouldn't win a game in the CT. Great partnership by these two. I hope they dont choke now lol.

 

[Mamoon]

I hold my hand up, thought they wouldn't win a game in the CT. Great partnership by these two. I hope they dont choke now lol.

Don't worry, we have all been there. At least you have the guts to show up. A lot of others will go into hiding now.

 

[saeed5646]

The premature bumps, oh dear.

It's tough to recall the last time so many people were left red-faced in one day...

A lot of PPers have brutally embarrassed themselves.

agree not the wise decision cricket is funny game

but warmup match against pak

ban fans bumped about 5 threads

 

[KingKhanWC]

Don't worry, we have all been there. At least you have the guts to show up. A lot of others will go into hiding now.

A strong Bangladesh side is good for Asian cricket and the game overall. I was just miffed as to why they weren't playing more seamers. Today they did. I still believe Pakistan are a better side in all round conditions. Bowling mainly tho.

 

[10sion]

Only good at playing at home exposed so badly against big boys in CT. Pakistan won against number side and Sri lanka won against number 2 side in these conditions. Lol at being second best asian side after india

My Rankings.

1) India
2) Pakistan ( Not too far behind India)
3) Sri Lanka ( Not too Far behind Pakistan)
.
.
.
.Daylight
.
.
.Bangaldesh

Performance in big tournament on foreign pitches matters a lot than the spin assisting pitches of Dhaka and Chittagong.

Bangladesh been a waste of space in the Champions Trophy. Would been better if West Indies would have been in it instead. Would been more competitive. Bangladesh playing like a minnow as always. Shame they been playing for so long but still when it matters in big tournaments they play like their standards like minnows.

Bangaldesh has lowered down the quality of this tournament. They have provided flop performances in all the three matches.

Don't deserve to participate in any Top Teams Tournaments in the future.

Bunch of minnows. Forever struggling team.

ICC needs to take test status away from this minnow team. All those years and when it comes big stage they play like minnows. Watching Bangladesh is like watching Scotland playing. Waste of space they been. Better if Afghanistan or West Indies were here instead of them.

Pathetic Cricket side. Won't ever become a competitive side .

WI deserved to be in CT. Far better side than this bunch of minnows.

Hate to say I told you so but I did tell you guys

Toygers )))

hahahahahah.... last series....last world cup 100 by mehmudullah...last this ..last tht... u forgot the humiliating defeats for years tht u got at hands of all teams...suddenly just win a handful games and u cant even forget tht... lol...

this is wat is wrong with bangla fans... its the illusion of being the best when they cant even compete at any level anywhere other than at home

The premature bumps, oh dear.

It's tough to recall the last time so many people were left red-faced in one day...

A lot of PPers have brutally embarrassed themselves.

True.

 

[Executioner]

Lol @ that epic quote

 

[s.h.a.k]

Well done Bangladesh. Excellent comeback. But still Bangladesh will be knocked out if Australia win tomorrow so no need to get get hyped up. Bangladesh will always be a minnow toll they win a ICC event. And today's celebration on Pakpassion shoes why they are minnows. One victory and it's like they won the world cup. If it wasn't because of rain they would been going home today despite the win but it gives them a extra day to stay but if England neat Australia and Bangladesh get through to semis it would be the best ever opportunity for Bangladesh to win a ICC event and shut people like myself and others up and I will stand up and applaud them if they do. Good luck Bangladesh.

 

[KingKhanWC]

True.

Nothing to be embarrased about lol. It's sport anything can happen. Bangladesh played well today but they also did in 1999 when they beat Pakistan. Neither then or now are Bangladesh better than Pakistan.

 

[Executioner]

Well done Bangladesh. Excellent comeback. But still Bangladesh will be knocked out if Australia win tomorrow so no need to get get hyped up. Bangladesh will always be a minnow toll they win a ICC event. And today's celebration on Pakpassion shoes why they are minnows. One victory and it's like they won the world cup. If it wasn't because of rain they would been going home today despite the win but it gives them a extra day to stay but if England neat Australia and Bangladesh get through to semis it would be the best ever opportunity for Bangladesh to win a ICC event and shut people like myself and others up and I will stand up and applaud them if they do. Good luck Bangladesh.

I am not really celebrating neither are my country men. We are poking the people who labelled us as minnows

Btw west indies won a world cup 500 years ago. Does that make us minnows and them non minnows.

South Africa NZ too haven't won but they are better sides

 

[Executioner]

Btw I will say it again

India is much better than Bangladesh who is "marginally" better than Pak and Lanka.

So you cant really outright say we are the second best team in the continent.

 

[srh]

Let the match finish first.

Viru bhai i can see lot of people eating crows in this thread

 

[s.h.a.k]

I am not really celebrating neither are my country men. We are poking the people who labelled us as minnows

Btw west indies won a world cup 500 years ago. Does that make us minnows and them non minnows.

South Africa NZ too haven't won but they are better sides

I'm talking about ICC events which include the Champions Trophy which South Africa and New Zealand have won. And we all Know come world cup South Africa are chokers now as they got that tag. West Indies also have won the World T20 in recent times. As said Bangladesh need to start winning such ICC tournaments to announce themselves big times. I personally think this is the perfect opportunity for them if England manage to beat Australia tomorrow. And it be good for world crickey if Bangladesh do otherwise it's same old Bangladesh their making the numbers up and getting the odd victory which is like winning the world cup.

 

[MMHS]

Well done Bangladesh. Excellent comeback. But still Bangladesh will be knocked out if Australia win tomorrow so no need to get get hyped up. Bangladesh will always be a minnow toll they win a ICC event. And today's celebration on Pakpassion shoes why they are minnows. One victory and it's like they won the world cup. If it wasn't because of rain they would been going home today despite the win but it gives them a extra day to stay but if England neat Australia and Bangladesh get through to semis it would be the best ever opportunity for Bangladesh to win a ICC event and shut people like myself and others up and I will stand up and applaud them if they do. Good luck Bangladesh.

No rain impact, if both wash out matches were played to full distance, as long as Poms win tomorrow.

Check the equation - NRR comes in equation, but most likely, Aussies would have by bigger margin chasing 291 than their win over us.

 

[Hasan123]

Didn't think Bangldesh would win a game well done to them. But they were lucky that rain kept them in the tournament.

 

[Executioner]

I'm talking about ICC events which include the Champions Trophy which South Africa and New Zealand have won. And we all Know come world cup South Africa are chokers now as they got that tag. West Indies also have won the World T20 in recent times. As said Bangladesh need to start winning such ICC tournaments to announce themselves big times. I personally think this is the perfect opportunity for them if England manage to beat Australia tomorrow. And it be good for world crickey if Bangladesh do otherwise it's same old Bangladesh their making the numbers up and getting the odd victory which is like winning the world cup.

Not disagreeing with you.

We are already non minnows. But not a giant yet. Winning an ICC event is needed to be giant no doubt

 

[s.h.a.k]

Not disagreeing with you.

We are already non minnows. But not a giant yet. Winning an ICC event is needed to be giant no doubt

Don't take me calling Bangldesh a minnow seriously. It's all just banter bro. Just wanted to annoy few Bangladesh fans who were trolling alot past few days. And yes need to win a ICC event to be classed as a giant. I hope England do win tomorrow and Bangladesh do qualify for semis it be good. I think this win will give them a massive confidence and belief they can go all the way. So good luck. And congrats on a memorable win today. Champions are born in such wins.

 

[Executioner]

Don't take me calling Bangldesh a minnow seriously. It's all just banter bro. Just wanted to annoy few Bangladesh fans who were trolling alot past few days. And yes need to win a ICC event to be classed as a giant. I hope England do win tomorrow and Bangladesh do qualify for semis it be good. I think this win will give them a massive confidence and belief they can go all the way. So good luck. And congrats on a memorable win today. Champions are born in such wins.

Not taking it too seriously

And thanks.

 

[MMHS]

Didn't think Bangldesh would win a game well done to them. But they were lucky that rain kept them in the tournament.

Not really - there were 2 wash outs.

 

[bujhee kom]

hahahahahah.... last series....last world cup 100 by mehmudullah...last this ..last tht... u forgot the humiliating defeats for years tht u got at hands of all teams...suddenly just win a handful games and u cant even forget tht... lol...

this is wat is wrong with bangla fans... its the illusion of being the best when they cant even compete at any level anywhere other than at home

Sorry?

JOY BANGLA!

Honestly, now we will soar. May even win the whole thing. Our morale is high, others is low. Shak showing why he is the best actual AR since peak Botham.

 

[Hasan123]

Not really - there were 2 wash outs.

If it wasn't for the rain on Monday you would have been out regardless of NZ winning the 1st game which they should have.

 

[majiz]

i think odi cricket is honestly terrible but i would say both sri lanka and bangladesh are way ahead of pak in terms of odi batting, and yeah 2nd after india. they seem to have players who are actually well co-ordinated and can actually strike a ball. pak doesnt have a tamim iqbal or an angelo matthews. on current evidence pak are definitely the worst asian odi side

 

[MMHS]

If it wasn't for the rain on Monday you would have been out regardless of NZ winning the 1st game which they should have.

NO - Poms winning all 3, NZ beat AUS, AUS beats BD, BD beats NZ. It comes to NRR - after 3 match, Kiwis are already behind us, so they are out; it's between AUS & BD - if Poms beat AUS by a bigger margin, they can go down on NRR, regardless of what's the margin of the NZ-AUS & BD-AUS match.

Aussies would have definitely crossed, because they would have known exactly what is their "safe" defeat margin that keeps their nose above BD; but we won't have been eliminated today.

It's confusing people because AUS-ENG match is later, so it's like rain has saved BD - Imagine a situation where AUS-Pom match is today & Aussies have lost it - BD-NZ becomes a QF tomorrow with all 3 teams still alive till result.


Only thing you can argue that Aussies could have made a comeback & beat Kiwis in that match - but same argument can be made for the other match as well - Aussies losing 9/99 & giving us a 1 run win.

 

[Hasan123]

NO - Poms winning all 3, NZ beat AUS, AUS beats BD, BD beats NZ. It comes to NRR - after 3 match, Kiwis are already behind us, so they are out; it's between AUS & BD - if Poms beat AUS by a bigger margin, they can go down on NRR, regardless of what's the margin of the NZ-AUS & BD-AUS match.

Aussies would have definitely crossed, because they would have known exactly what is their "safe" defeat margin that keeps their nose above BD; but we won't have been eliminated today.

It's confusing people because AUS-ENG match is later, so it's like rain has saved BD - Imagine a situation where AUS-Pom match is today & Aussies have lost it - BD-NZ becomes a QF tomorrow with all 3 teams still alive till result.


Only thing you can argue that Aussies could have made a comeback & beat Kiwis in that match - but same argument can be made for the other match as well - Aussies losing 9/99 & giving us a 1 run win.

You have made some great scenarios here. But Bangladesh would have been out for me had rain not halted play on Monday.

You haven't taken into consideration the difference in motivation for today's game had Monday been rained off.

There is no guarantee that England will beat Australia, I have seen you in the past say Australian team will beat England on odis. So now how come when Bangladesh team is involved you think England can win ?

 

[MMHS]

You have made some great scenarios here. But Bangladesh would have been out for me had rain not halted play on Monday.

You haven't taken into consideration the difference in motivation for today's game had Monday been rained off.

There is no guarantee that England will beat Australia, I have seen you in the past say Australian team will beat England on odis. So now how come when Bangladesh team is involved you think England can win ?

I still take AUS favourite.

The argument is about elimination - without rain, BD would have been eliminated. That's not true till Saturday.

I don't think motivation is even an issue for a team, for whom every match is like KO, as we don't get the chance to play too many.

Posters are considering that 1 point from rain vital - which absolutely isn't the case. With or without rain, equation remains same - AUS win, go home. Before that, BD is in tournament, as long as Kiwi match is won - that was enough for motivation.

 

[MilkyWay]

Sorry?

JOY BANGLA!

Honestly, now we will soar. May even win the whole thing. Our morale is high, others is low. Shak showing why he is the best actual AR since peak Botham.

hhahahahhahhah ..... u atleast made my day with a good joke... so Imran, Hedlle, KALLIS, Razzaq, Stokes, Woakes, Vettori, Klusner, afridi, symonds, flintoff, jayasuria these all shld fear the wrath of the greatest all rounder of all time the gr8 Sakib?? .... hahahahahaha .. how many times any sane person ever picked sakib in their playing XI and dont crap abt him playing in a lower level team... andy flower has been named a few times by many gr8 in their best XI .... sakib, never lol

 

[Hasan123]

I still take AUS favourite.

The argument is about elimination - without rain, BD would have been eliminated. That's not true till Saturday.

I don't think motivation is even an issue for a team, for whom every match is like KO, as we don't get the chance to play too many.

Posters are considering that 1 point from rain vital - which absolutely isn't the case. With or without rain, equation remains same - AUS win, go home. Before that, BD is in tournament, as long as Kiwi match is won - that was enough for motivation.

If Australia won on Monday you would have been out as Australia would have moved onto 3 points.

Credit to Bangladesh for winning today but they had some luck.