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Is India now destined to be the best Asian team permanently?

Previously, Indian cricket revolved around one to three star batsmen (Gavaskar, Kapil Dev, Ganguly, Dravid) who held the entire team together. Their bowling, by contrast, had little quality to speak of. The main objective of the bowlers was simply to maintain discipline rather than take wickets.

Today, the situation is very different. Almost every Indian cricketer is a star in his own right and capable of taking the opposition apart. Their bowling now complements their batting. Each bowler has the ability to change the course of a game single-handedly.

A big part of this shift is how India began to treat cricket. Thanks to the IPL, instead of relying on a few gifted players to carry the team, they built a proper system around the sport. Fitness standards became stricter, the domestic structure expanded, and player selection became more organized and deliberate. Discipline, which once felt optional, became part of the culture.

Simply put, India is the first Asian country to treat cricket as a fully professional sport and to demand ruthless discipline and performance. This approach has produced a generation of well-polished, exciting, and highly competitive athletes.

Pakistan, by contrast, still treats cricket like an elite club where politicians, fixers, and vested interests influence the sport’s decisions. Mediocrity and nepotism are tolerated and often justified through media campaigns, while mediocre players are elevated into heroes.

Pakistan cricket has become too politicized and compromised to consistently produce professional athletes. There will continue to be moments of hope and false starts, as seen with players like Babar and Shaheen, but these cycles ultimately leave fans more disappointed each time.

Indian players are not necessarily more talented than others, but they are disciplined and driven. As the saying goes, hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard.

Given the rot across almost every sector in the country, Pakistan is decades away from fixing any of these problems. The PSL which was heralded to catapult Pakistan cricket into the 21st century has become a major enabler of the rotten culture plaguing Pakistan cricket.
 
shaz619 said:
The way India are going, they may as well be playing with themselves, it’s already a popular endeavour in India.

During a period of dominance for any team, you ought to lift the sport altogether & take it to new heights, these lot have taken it to new lows, so long their gullible flock are content with the Bollywood drama and define success by it, all good for the sheep.
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The IPL has ensured the financial security of cricketers across the world. Bcci has done its part.

There is no need to cry just because your team lacks the aukaat needed to achieve anything.

You can play the match on Mars with 15 players and you will still lose against us, no other pak or Indian team has ever been as insipid as your current lot. Your people have no talent, maybe its the genetics.

The failure of your team is a result of the failure of your nation( the real one not the adopted one which will throw you out in a couple of years due to crime rate).
 
Azhar Ali : “We have to look at the Pakistan’s bilateral series' we play. We either play against low ranked teams, or high ranked who send their B teams. When we get to world events, then all the teams have their best players playing. We then get badly exposed. Instead of getting easy wins against poor teams”

:kp
 
Devadwal said:
Azhar Ali : “We have to look at the Pakistan’s bilateral series' we play. We either play against low ranked teams, or high ranked who send their B teams. When we get to world events, then all the teams have their best players playing. We then get badly exposed. Instead of getting easy wins against poor teams”

:kp
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True lol THey keep on playing Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Srilanka, then that UAE cup for whatever reason lol I won't want even under-19 to play that cup. I would rather prefer under-19 team playing youth tests in Australia.
 
No team remains unbeatable because star players retirement or serious loss of form can derail team's balance. It has happened to every team. But when a good system in place quality replacement can come quickly.
 
Yes...just like how England are destined to be the best European team permanently..

There's just as much gap between India and the other Asian teams as there is between England and Ireland/Scotland/Netherlands.
 
Nothing is permanent in life or in sport. 25 years ago , I thought Pakistan would always dominate cricket and be a Top 3 side, especially in white ball, with only Australia and South Africa capable of beating them regularly.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
The IPL has ensured the financial security of cricketers across the world. Bcci has done its part.

There is no need to cry just because your team lacks the aukaat needed to achieve anything.

You can play the match on Mars with 15 players and you will still lose against us, no other pak or Indian team has ever been as insipid as your current lot. Your people have no talent, maybe its the genetics.

The failure of your team is a result of the failure of your nation( the real one not the adopted one which will throw you out in a couple of years due to crime rate).
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This is a Cricket Forum man, mentioning genetics here is extremely stupid considering the high levels of genetic disorders and congenital conditions that are rampant in India compared to many countries and it is not even related to cousin marriages which is the biggest issue in Pakistan.
 
GudduBadmash said:
This is a Cricket Forum man, mentioning genetics here is extremely stupid considering the high levels of genetic disorders and congenital conditions that are rampant in India compared to many countries and it is not even related to cousin marriages which is the biggest issue in Pakistan.
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I think it was tongue is cheek. Clowns like Shaz are notorious for bringing up the so called genetic superiority as an argument for Pakistan's "talunt"... Which is now down in the toilet.

And now that it's their face getting slapped with eggs...he's throwing a sissy fit. Absolutely hilarious...🤣
 
Mesozoic said:
I think it was tongue is cheek. Clowns like Shaz are notorious for bringing up the so called genetic superiority as an argument for Pakistan's "talunt"... Which is now down in the toilet.

And now that it's their face getting slapped with eggs...he's throwing a sissy fit. Absolutely hilarious...🤣
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Fair enough, makes sense
 
Mesozoic said:
Keep enjoying the "first place"...

We will enjoy the World cups and Champions Trophies..:msd


Fun fact - Arshdeep Singh has as many ICC Trophies as Pakistan. :rabada2
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Fun fact: Pakistan have more wins whenever they have stepped on the field vs their whipping boys India.
 
Mesozoic said:
Fun fact : India has won as many ICC titles in the last 20 months as Pakistan have done in their entire history.

Cop that .. :yk
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What is this cowardly argument? We have spanked you 88 times. Every time India have stepped on the field against us, we have destroyed you more often than not. Generational trauma.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
What is this cowardly argument? We have spanked you 88 times. Every time India have stepped on the field against us, we have destroyed you more often than not. Generational trauma.
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Ahh yes "generational trauma"

I still can't get over the traumatic defeat we faced in the prestigious coca cola cup of 1995 at the prestigious home of cricket - Sharjah. Spanking Pakistan 15 times in World tournaments and winning 4 world cups since then does not make up for that defeat in that marquee tournament.

If only we can exchange our World Cup record and ICC titles for the prestige of the glorious Coca cola Pepsi cups.. 😢
 
Savak said:
I just don't see how countries like Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh or Afghanistan can really compete with India given that these countries do not have the financial means/resources to create India's cricketing eco system where every Indian domestic player can live a very comfortable life just from playing cricket alone for his state team even if he never ever gets to play for India or Indian national team players where they get dropped or are no longer competitive vs other competing players can still enjoy $1 to $1.5 million paydays from the IPL where they are comfortably set for life even if they don't ever play for India again.

Maybe the Asia Cup should be segregated where India should not be a part of the Asia Cup anymore and the other Asia Cup sides can compete against each other and the winner of the Asia Cup gets to play against India in a best of 3-5 finals.

Forget about Asian teams, even teams like Australia, England, South Africa, New Zealand will not be able to consistently compete with India's never ending supply of talent. New Zealand has enjoyed its golden generation for the last 12-14 years but once they lose 5-8 players, can we confidently say they have ready replacements? Australia's performance in this T-20 World Cup should have been a warning sign for them about life after Starc, Hazelwood, Cummins.
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In 90s Pakistan team was very talented at that PCB was not rich like BCCI.... real fault lies in selection process
 
shaz619 said:
The way India are going, they may as well be playing with themselves, it’s already a popular endeavour in India.

During a period of dominance for any team, you ought to lift the sport altogether & take it to new heights, these lot have taken it to new lows, so long their gullible flock are content with the Bollywood drama and define success by it, all good for the sheep.
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Again.

Bcci is perfectly fine playing bilateral cricket with other nations. There's a fixed policy with playing cricket with Pakistan. I don't agree with the policy btw. Either play Pakistan like a normal team or don't engage them at all. Playing them at World cups to maximize revenue is something I'll never agree with.

As to why this policy in place , we need to look at how the relations between both countries are.
 
shaz619 said:
The way India are going, they may as well be playing with themselves, it’s already a popular endeavour in India.

During a period of dominance for any team, you ought to lift the sport altogether & take it to new heights, these lot have taken it to new lows, so long their gullible flock are content with the Bollywood drama and define success by it, all good for the sheep.
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And in context of the recent spate of victories that Indian teams across formats, genders and age have achieved - what you have posted is supremely indicative of the green smoke and reflective of your signature below your posts :)
 
shah9425 said:
This lead will be vanished soon
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Need 5-6 more year as we hardly play against each other.

Next in 2027 World Cup , then 2028 World T20, Champion Trophy 2029 .

Asia cup won't happen atleast for the next 4-5 years due to recent developments .

:kp.
 
Devadwal said:
Need 5-6 more year as we hardly play against each other.

Next in 2027 World Cup , then 2028 World T20, Champion Trophy 2029 .

Asia cup won't happen atleast for the next 4-5 years due to recent developments .

:kp.
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Asia cup will happen

Don't see it getting postponed
 
Yes, Pakistan is light years behind them in almost every facet

Batting
Bowling
Fielding
Quality
Ability
Talent
Professionalism
Fitness
Mentality
Education
Focus
Infrastructure



Afghanistan, Srilanka and Bangladesh are no match for them either and never will be.

India is here to dominate for many years to come.
 
Truth is bitter but Ind will be the best Asian team by a distance for the foreseeable future. Just because of the systems and structures in place. And Ban will the worst, that wont change either..
 
harshjoshi87 said:
India didn't have Bumrah for most of the bilateral series, still India won 58 out of 67 matches in last 2 ½ years.

Spinners had a hard time in this WC, they will take over once Bumrah decides to move away.
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I did not mean when Bumrah moves away , I mean if he is injured or rested .

If Bumrah does not play , it does make a difference. He is once in a generation bowler.
 
India should be targeting to become best ever in cricket’s history.

Asia has mediocre teams barring India and in these foreseeable future I don’t see how teams like Pakistan, SL, Afg can even remotely match Indian excellence
 
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