Is Indian army merely a puppet of their politicians?

[ILcricket]

Zia, who helped US defeat Russia? Atleast he use to visit US regularly and was never banned to enter that place. Speak about your own chaiwala terrorist, who killed all those Muslims in Gujrat and Kashmir. He is still doing that, where is the outrage?

i see , visiting USA is the ultimate last destination ...how nice you in Canada , Hafiz & Maood are free to wander in USA

 

[Pete Rose]

You should ask the army that refused to take back its dead soldiers and denied them respectable burials during the Kargil War.

No. I am more interested in the sewer of disinformation that originates from Bakht central WhatsApp groups. You know, the ones where your pilots shop in our duty free outlet while spending 21 minutes in Pakistan airspace. You know, where they hit a building and wiped out 300 combatants. Or maybe the one where ‘we hit what we hit, but premature to talk numbers’. Or maybe the one where ‘we didn’t cross over to airspace but fired spice missiles’. Or it could be the one where ‘well we have these special bombs that don’t destroy buildings but kill people in them’ but then again ‘Sri modiji is also correct - if he had his Rafales the result would be different.
Amateurs.

 

[Technics 1210]

Why feed the trolls here?

Forget Zia, think Godse! India post partition kicked off with Saffron terror with the assassination of Gandhi, and India continues to exist, oops, flourish, because Indians voted for a saffron terrorist party, and the right to worship of Godse in BJP offices!

Just remember folks, Modi is the only leader in the world to be banned by the USA/UK. Hafeez et al who are civilians, a not even on the map!

Let the facts speaks the truth.

 

[Bhaijaan]

They can use them for their own personal agendas and political motives, who wrote such constitution which makes army so powerless?

Army has its own agendas. They don't mind i guess when a mad man like Modi let them have some freedom. By making national security his major agenda, Modi's turned army men into rockstars in India currently. The obsession with men in uniform currently is at its peak. More emphasis on raising defense budget, buying new and better stuff for the boys, raising their social status and possibly pay raise in future. Why wouldn't Army absolutely love someone like Modi who gives them so much for fake strikes?

 

[cricketjoshila]

And thank God India's opinion means zero to the world!

We saw that when except 1 member everyone at the UNSC supported India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

No. I am more interested in the sewer of disinformation that originates from Bakht central WhatsApp groups. You know, the ones where your pilots shop in our duty free outlet while spending 21 minutes in Pakistan airspace. You know, where they hit a building and wiped out 300 combatants. Or maybe the one where ‘we hit what we hit, but premature to talk numbers’. Or maybe the one where ‘we didn’t cross over to airspace but fired spice missiles’. Or it could be the one where ‘well we have these special bombs that don’t destroy buildings but kill people in them’ but then again ‘Sri modiji is also correct - if he had his Rafales the result would be different.
Amateurs.

You should be more interested in the army which claimed that it was winning the war before 90k of them surrendered Dhaka the next day.

Or as i pointed out, refused to take the body of its martyrs and give them a burial.

Or denied OBL was in its territory before he was fished out of a mansion near a army institution.

Or whose former chief confessed that tgey use terrorism as a state craft.

I think its obvious which army has a history of denials lies and deceits.

 

[Pete Rose]

You should be more interested in the army which claimed that it was winning the war before 90k of them surrendered Dhaka the next day.

Or as i pointed out, refused to take the body of its martyrs and give them a burial.

Or denied OBL was in its territory before he was fished out of a mansion near a army institution.

Or whose former chief confessed that tgey use terrorism as a state craft.

I think its obvious which army has a history of denials lies and deceits.

Well I am glad that after flying lessons, your folks also being taught how to lie.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Well I am glad that after flying lessons, your folks also being taught how to lie.

We know who has a history of lying and hence who is most likely to lie.

 

[Pete Rose]

We know who has a history of lying and hence who is most likely to lie.

Yes totally agree.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yes totally agree.

So ask your country's army a few questions.

 

[ahmedzee]

We saw that when except 1 member everyone at the UNSC supported India.

We saw what happened in OIC, india's baisti of the highest order. The word "Indian Terrorism" in Occupied kashmir was used.

 

[Zhasan]

Why feed the trolls here?

Forget Zia, think Godse! India post partition kicked off with Saffron terror with the assassination of Gandhi, and India continues to exist, oops, flourish, because Indians voted for a saffron terrorist party, and the right to worship of Godse in BJP offices!

Just remember folks, Modi is the only leader in the world to be banned by the USA/UK. Hafeez et al who are civilians, a not even on the map!

Let the facts speaks the truth.

Zia was a boy scout compared to Indra Gandhi...Modi isn't the only nor the first belligerent extremist to have come to power in India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

We saw what happened in OIC, india's baisti of the highest order. The word "Indian Terrorism" in Occupied kashmir was used.

Here is the OIC resolution passed at Abu Dhabi.

https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/gulf...sation-of-islamic-cooperation-1.1551555952948


Please tell me where is Kashmir mentioned?

 

[ahmedzee]

Here is the OIC resolution passed at Abu Dhabi.

https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/gulf...sation-of-islamic-cooperation-1.1551555952948



Please tell me where is Kashmir mentioned?

Plenty of sources including Indian sources:

https://amp.scroll.in/latest/915213...ndian-terrorism-and-mass-blindings-in-kashmir
https://m.timesofindia.com/india/oi...as-face-congress/amp_articleshow/68245881.cms

As I said, baisti of highest order. How can u put a blind eye to what world is saying, and just listen to Hindu terrorist bjp and it’s owned media wing.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Plenty of sources including Indian sources:

https://amp.scroll.in/latest/915213...ndian-terrorism-and-mass-blindings-in-kashmir
https://m.timesofindia.com/india/oi...as-face-congress/amp_articleshow/68245881.cms

As I said, baisti of highest order. How can u put a blind eye to what world is saying, and just listen to Hindu terrorist bjp and it’s owned media wing.

O bhai i posted a link from The Gulf News. Thats a UAE based news paper and it published the entire OIC Abu Dhabi declaration. It has no mention of Kashmir.


Here is a pakistani source saying that even though a pak sponsored resolution was separately passed it was not made part of the official declaration.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/amp/439233-oic-keeps-kashmir-out-of-final-dispatch

Neither is a Indian source. India sucessfully kept out any mention of Kashmir in the final draft of the Abu Dhabi declaration.

Beizzati is for Pakistan. UAE invited India to OIC despite pakistani protests and then despite a separate resolution being passed on Kashmir, OIC kept it out of the official declaration.

 

[srh]

Army should always be under civilian control. This is also an Islamic concept. If I remember correctly: Hazrat Khalid bin Waleed RA (who is considered the best general ever) was removed from his post by civilian leader Hazrat Umar Farooq RA for some reason and there was no military revolt.

 

[FearlessRoar]

The Uttar Pradesh Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS) has arrested an employee of the Indian Embassy in Moscow for allegedly spying for Pakistan's intelligence agency ISI. He was arrested in Meerut. The arrested individual, identified as Satendra Siwal, was working as a Multi-Tasking Staff (MTS) in the Ministry of External Affairs.

The operation unfolded as ATS received intelligence from confidential sources suggesting that ISI handlers were luring Indian Ministry of External Affairs employees, offering financial incentives in exchange for sensitive information related to the Indian Army. The information being exchanged posed a grave threat to India's internal and external security, the agency said.

Satendra Siwal, a resident of Shahmahiuddinpur village in Hapur, was identified as a key player in this espionage network. He was allegedly extracting confidential documents by exploiting his position within the Indian Embassy in Moscow. The accused, motivated by greed for money, allegedly passed critical information concerning the strategic activities of the Ministry of Defence, Ministry of External Affairs, and Indian military establishments to ISI handlers.

"The ATS was receiving intelligence from various confidential sources that the handlers of the Pakistani intelligence agency ISI, through some persons, were luring the employees of the Ministry of External Affairs with money to obtain strategically and strategically important information related to the Indian Army that is likely to pose a huge threat to the internal and external security of India," the agency said in a statement.

Following extensive intelligence gathering and surveillance, Satendra Siwal was summoned to the ATS Field Unit in Meerut for interrogation. During questioning, he reportedly failed to provide satisfactory answers, eventually confessing to his involvement in spy activities. Satendra Siwal has been working as an India Based Security Assistant (IBSA) at the Indian Embassy in Moscow since 2021.

An FIR has been registered against Siwal under sections of waging war against the country and also under sections of the Official Secrets Act.

The Ministry of External Affairs said that it is aware of Satendra Siwal's arrest and is working with the investigative authorities in the case.

Source: NDTV

Indian Embassy Worker Arrested For Spying Was Providing Army Info To Pak

The Uttar Pradesh Anti-Terrorism Squad has arrested an employee of the Indian Embassy in Moscow, Russia, on charges of spying for Pakistan's intelligence agency, ISI.

www.ndtv.com

 

[FearlessRoar]

Chief of the Army Staff General Manoj Pande's service extended till June 30 as the Appointments Committee of Cabinet approves one-month extension

NDTV