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Is it harder to be a Muslim in India or a Hindu in Pakistan, or a Hindu in Bangladesh?

Which community is most vulnerable in the Indian subcontinent?

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Ball Blazer said:
India unlawfully expels hundreds of Muslims to Bangladesh

After India deported hundreds of people to Bangladesh without trial, as confirmed by officials from both sides, activists and counsels have condemned the new expulsions, saying they are illegal and based on ethnic profiling.

The Indian authorities have said the deported individuals are undocumented migrants.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi's Hindu nationalist government has long maintained a strict stance against immigration, especially from Bangladesh, a country with a majority of Muslim population. Top Indian officials have called these immigrants "termites" and "infiltrators".

It has also sparked fear among India’s estimated 200 million Muslims, especially among speakers of Bengali, a widely spoken language in both eastern India and Bangladesh.

"Muslims, particularly from the eastern part of the country, are terrified," said veteran Indian rights activist Harsh Mander.

"You have thrown millions into this existential fear."

Bangladesh, largely encircled by land by India, has seen relations with New Delhi turn icy since a mass uprising in 2024 toppled Dhaka’s government, a former friend of India.

But India also ramped up operations against migrants after a wider security crackdown in the wake of an attack in the west — the April 22 killing of 26 people, mainly Hindu tourists, in Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIOJK).

New Delhi blamed that attack on Pakistan, claims Islamabad rejected, with arguments culminating in a four-day conflict that left more than 70 dead.

Indian authorities launched an unprecedented countrywide security drive that has seen many thousands detained — and many of them eventually pushed across the border to Bangladesh at gunpoint.

‘We will shoot you’

Rahima Begum, from India’s eastern Assam state, said police detained her for several days in late May before taking her to the Bangladesh frontier.

She said she and her family had spent their life in India.

"I have lived all my life here — my parents, my grandparents, they are all from here," she said. "I don’t know why they would do this to me."

Indian police took Begum, along with five other people, all Muslims, and forced them into swampland in the dark.

"They showed us a village in the distance and told us to crawl there," she told AFP.

"They said: ‘Do not dare to stand and walk, or we will shoot you.’"

Bangladeshi locals who found the group then handed them to border police who "thrashed" them and ordered they return to India, Begum said.

"As we approached the border, there was firing from the other side," said the 50-year-old.

"We thought: ‘This is the end. We are all going to die.’"

She survived, and, a week after she was first picked up, she was dropped back home in Assam with a warning to keep quiet.

Bengali speaking Muslims being targeted
Rights activists and lawyers criticised India’s drive as "lawless".

"You cannot deport people unless there is a country to accept them," said New Delhi-based civil rights lawyer Sanjay Hegde.

Indian law does not allow for people to be deported without due process, he added.

Bangladesh has said India has pushed more than 1,600 people across its border since May.

Indian media suggests the number could be as high as 2,500.

The Bangladesh Border Guards said it has sent back 100 of those pushed across — because they were Indian citizens.

India has been accused of forcibly deporting Muslim Rohingya refugees from Myanmar, with navy ships dropping them off the coast of the war-torn nation.

Many of those targeted in the campaign are low-wage labourers in states governed by Modi’s Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), according to rights activists.

Indian authorities did not respond to questions about the number of people detained and deported.

But Assam state’s chief minister has said that more than 300 people have been deported to Bangladesh.

Separately, Gujarat’s police chief said more than 6,500 people have been rounded up in the western state, home to both Modi and interior minister Amit Shah.

Many of those were reported to be Bengali-speaking Indians and later released.

"People of Muslim identity who happen to be Bengali speaking are being targeted as part of an ideological hate campaign," said Mander, the activist.

Nazimuddin Mondal, a 35-year-old mason, said he was picked up by police in the financial hub of Mumbai, flown on a military aircraft to the border state of Tripura and pushed into Bangladesh.

He managed to cross back, and is now back in India’s West Bengal state, where he said he was born.

"The Indian security forces beat us with batons when we insisted we were Indians," said Mondal, adding he is now scared to even go out to seek work.

"I showed them my government-issued ID, but they just would not listen."

Source: https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/1325023-india-unlawfully-expels-hundreds-of-muslims-to-bangladesh
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India have become an extremist country. They should be sanctioned.

Maybe Bangladesh should start deporting Indian agents to India also. Cancel their Bangladeshi citizenships for a start. :inti
 
Forget all the local religious groups for a moment, here’s a fun fact, India is home to more Zoroastrians today than Iran, their land of origin.

Zoroastrians who are the original inhabitants of Persia, fled to India centuries ago when they were being persecuted during Islamic conquests. In India, they were never forced to convert. Instead, they found dignity, freedom, and the opportunity to thrive. Today, they are among the most respected and successful communities in India, known for their immense contributions to industry, philanthropy, and culture. The Tata group traces its origins to a Parsi family. Godrej - another giant business family in India - Parsi. Homi Jahangir Baba - Parsi nuclear physicist who is the father of India’s nuclear program. Freddie Mercury from the world famous British band The Queen belonged to an Indian parsi family. Rakesh Jhunjhunwala - The Big Bull of the stock markets in India - a true Indian dream. These are just few prominent examples out of hundreds of stories of Parsis finding a safe haven and a ladder to success in India, of course through their hard work.

Likewise, when China forcefully occupied Tibet, it was India that opened its doors to the Dalai Lama and the Tibetan Buddhist community. The serene town of McLeodganj near Dharamshala now serves as their spiritual and cultural headquarters. India didn’t just shelter them—it gave them the space to preserve their identity.

India’s whole history is full with examples of offering refuge to the persecuted. Even Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu once remarked that the Jews faced persecution everywhere in the worldexcept in India, where they never encountered hostility from the native population.

This is a living testament to India’s civilizational ethos that value coexistence over domination.

On a true global platform no Pakistani or Bangladeshi will ever dare discuss this topic. Any Pakistani attempting to defend their country’s record on minorities would be dismantled by facts, history, and real-life evidence. But in guarded online spaces like these, you’ll still see attempts to whitewash the reality by arguing that Pakistan and Bangladesh have been kinder to their minorities. It’s a tragic irony and frankly a poor joke that only exposes the deep-rooted discrimination embedded in those societies.

If Pakistan is indeed a haven for Hindus, let’s see some examples. Name the grand temples still functioning there. Show us the public Hindu festivals celebrated without fear or restriction. List the number of Hindus who’ve represented Pakistan in international sports. Tell us how many Hindus have held positions of real power—in the military, judiciary, or bureaucracy.

Silence speaks louder than spin.

What’s worse is not the lack of facts—it’s the lack of shame. The denial, the gaslighting, the manufactured narratives… all to avoid facing a hard truth. It’s not just delusion. It’s a deep moral failing when a society can’t even admit what it has done—or continues to do—to its most vulnerable.

If you must defend your nation, start with honesty. Everything else is just noise.
 
sweep_shot said:
Harder to be a Muslim in India definitely.

Whatever incidents happen in Bangladesh or Pakistan are not state-sponsored. Those happen at people level and happen much less compared to what happens in India.

In India, Muslim oppression is state-sponsored (removal of article 370, anti-waqf bill, bulldozing Muslim homes, mosque demolitions etc.).
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Ah I see..hence the illegal Muslim immigrants are coming to Bangladesh from India in millions
 
sweep_shot said:
India have become an extremist country. They should be sanctioned.

Maybe Bangladesh should start deporting Indian agents to India also. Cancel their Bangladeshi citizenships for a start. :inti
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Absolutely...India is state sponsored targeting of Muslims...yet Muslims of Bangladesh don't want to leave India
 
HalBass9 said:
Both countries are disasters when it comes to minority rights, and let’s be honest, they’re not exactly paradise for their majorities either.

Stop playing the game of “who’s the bigger bigot.” In India, a cow lyncher doesn’t just act, he votes for the people who cheer him on. In Pakistan, a mere accusation of blasphemy is enough to spark a mob with pitchforks.

Both nations are dry tinder, just waiting for a spark, and we all know how fast the body bags pile up once it lights.

So spare us the "who's more humane" debate, you're just comparing different flavors of the same sickness.

But let’s not ignore the elephant in the room, hatred toward Muslims in India runs deep. And Gaza's genocide laid it bare, too many Indians didn’t just stay silent, they cheered it on.
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Paksitani victim mentality...

Be a ostrich...forget everything before they get their phainta... Then blame India Israel USA.


Hamas for no reason goes and kills 1000s of Israel...fires missiles and then hides among civilians - Israel retaliates...they are committing genocide.
 
The extremism we are seeing in India in modern times is similar to the extremism that was present in 1930's Germany (Nazi Germany).

Nazi Germany eventually had to be purged completely. Allied forces did exactly that.

Same solution needs to be applied to RSS India. India need to be invaded, annexed, balkanized, and purged. In other words, RSS India need to be completely de-sanghified for the region's stability.

:inti
 
sweep_shot said:
The extremism we are seeing in India in modern times is similar to the extremism that was present in 1930's Germany (Nazi Germany).

Nazi Germany eventually had to be purged completely. Allied forces did exactly that.

Same solution needs to be applied to RSS India. India need to be invaded, annexed, balkanized, and purged. In other words, RSS India need to be completely de-sanghified for the region's stability.

:inti
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How many concentration camps ? What is the death toll so far according to you ?

Note: to be clear I am not even asking for any sources to prove that allegation. just based on your perception.
 
straighttalk said:
Paksitani victim mentality...

Be a ostrich...forget everything before they get their phainta... Then blame India Israel USA.


Hamas for no reason goes and kills 1000s of Israel...fires missiles and then hides among civilians - Israel retaliates...they are committing genocide.
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lol

:afridi
 
straighttalk said:
Paksitani victim mentality...

Be a ostrich...forget everything before they get their phainta... Then blame India Israel USA.


Hamas for no reason goes and kills 1000s of Israel...fires missiles and then hides among civilians - Israel retaliates...they are committing genocide.
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Nope this is just a smoke screen for your desire to see as many Palestinians killed merely because most of them are Muslim.

To make matters worse you go out of way to stick your head into the r*** of Israel even though Israelis are deeply racist towards Indians.
 
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topspin said:
Nope this is just a smoke screen for your desire to see as many Palestinians killed merely because most of them are Muslim.

To make matters worse you go out of way to stick your head into the r*** of Israel even though Israelis are deeply racist towards Indians.
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Sure abusing me doesn't change the terrorist Muslim mentality of killing people for no reasons and then crying genocide
 
topspin said:
Nope this is just a smoke screen for your desire to see as many Palestinians killed merely because most of them are Muslim.

To make matters worse you go out of way to stick your head into the r*** of Israel even though Israelis are deeply racist towards Indians.
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There are racist everywhere...you guys go to China Arab countries and western countries...forget about China and West..even the Arabs consider your second grade Muslims.. some Israelis are racist..many are not...there are same kind of people in India too..
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Lol still giving you the benefit of doubt, but apparently that structure is located on the backside of this shop as a separate structure. Anyways you can prove us wrong with exact details 👍
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Is there no rule to keep an chicken shop atleast 100 meters away from a temple or masjid?in india no alcohol or meat shop is allowed near temples.am sure other holy places too.
 
sweep_shot said:
You sanghis should keep quiet. Look in the mirror first. Restore Babri masjid first. :inti


Also, if a temple has been abandoned, nothing wrong with turning it into a store. :inti
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Einstein, on which temple babri
masjid was built? If babar wrote that he razed a temple in babarnama, what is ur objection? Why temple is abandoned? Still the temple is there so preservation of holy place measurements should be there.

P.s u can come and argue in ayodhya thread if u want to use brain than ur normal bigotry.
 
I think I’ve said this before, but these kinds of questions can only really be answered by Pakistani Hindus or Indian Muslims.

Pakistani Muslims can’t speak on behalf of their Hindu minority, and the same applies to Hindus in India.

With that in mind, we should take the opinion of someone like Danish Kaneria, and, say, Irfan Pathan. If we do so, it becomes doodh ka doodh, paani ka paani.

Now, people might say Danish Kaneria is a bad person, he has a vendetta, bla bla bla. Fine. But then whose opinion should we take to decide whether it’s harder to be a Hindu in Pakistan? If you say Irfan Pathan is not the right person, I can give you 10 other names—Zaheer Khan, Yusuf Pathan, Mohammed Kaif, Azharuddin, etc. Which Pakistani Hindu is there to contradict Danish Kaneria?

Even in this forum, I can tag at least 10 Indian Muslim posters for their opinion. But can someone tag a Pakistani Hindu, Christian, or Sikh poster and let me know?

Frankly, these kinds of questions from the OP shouldn’t even be raised. It’s documented that anywhere there is a Muslim majority, minorities and women (of all religions) get limited or no rights. Yet, when in minority, the same population wants democracy and equality. On a forum, anyone can say anything, but facts are facts.
 
Indians shouldn't point fingers at other countries until:

- Article 370 is restored.
- Babri masjid is restored in its original place.
- Arrange referendum in Indian-occupied Kashmir.
- Arrange referendum in Punjab for an independent Khalistan.
- Arrange referendum in Tamil Nadu for an independent Tamil state.
- Criminalize cow vigilantism and prosecute cow vigilante mobs.
- Ensure safety for minorities. Ensure there is no systematic discrimination.

:inti:inti
 
Rajdeep said:
I think I’ve said this before, but these kinds of questions can only really be answered by Pakistani Hindus or Indian Muslims.
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I think poster sam_ahm mentioned in this thread that he never faced any discrimination in india on religion basis.our jaychand declined to comment confirming the same.
 
sweep_shot said:
Indians shouldn't point fingers at other countries until:

- Article 370 is restored.
- Babri masjid is restored in its original place.
- Arrange referendum in Indian-occupied Kashmir.
- Arrange referendum in Punjab for an independent Khalistan.
- Arrange referendum in Tamil Nadu for an independent Tamil state.
- Criminalize cow vigilantism and prosecute cow vigilante mobs.
- Ensure safety for minorities. Ensure there is no systematic discrimination.
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While you are at it ... perhaps fly the Pakistani flag on Redfort on Aug 15th ? Dil behalane ke liye and all that ....
 
Rajdeep said:
I think I’ve said this before, but these kinds of questions can only really be answered by Pakistani Hindus or Indian Muslims.

Pakistani Muslims can’t speak on behalf of their Hindu minority, and the same applies to Hindus in India.

With that in mind, we should take the opinion of someone like Danish Kaneria, and, say, Irfan Pathan. If we do so, it becomes doodh ka doodh, paani ka paani.

Now, people might say Danish Kaneria is a bad person, he has a vendetta, bla bla bla. Fine. But then whose opinion should we take to decide whether it’s harder to be a Hindu in Pakistan? If you say Irfan Pathan is not the right person, I can give you 10 other names—Zaheer Khan, Yusuf Pathan, Mohammed Kaif, Azharuddin, etc. Which Pakistani Hindu is there to contradict Danish Kaneria?

Even in this forum, I can tag at least 10 Indian Muslim posters for their opinion. But can someone tag a Pakistani Hindu, Christian, or Sikh poster and let me know?

Frankly, these kinds of questions from the OP shouldn’t even be raised. It’s documented that anywhere there is a Muslim majority, minorities and women (of all religions) get limited or no rights. Yet, when in minority, the same population wants democracy and equality. On a forum, anyone can say anything, but facts are facts.
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There is a very very simple way to answer this ... can Hindus in Pakistan think about doing something like what happened in Godhra or countless other acts of violence against the majority?
 
Technics 1210 said:
In India, no human is safe, cos its a country where animals have more rights than humans.
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Indeed.

I have written it many times. Minorities and women are not safe in chaiwala's India. Women are always in danger of being raped while minorities are in danger of being lynched.

What minorities go through in India is far worse than what minorities face in other subcontinental countries.

Minority oppression in India is state-sponsored.
 
Many ppians forgotten to mentioned millions of afgani nationals sent back to their country by Pakistan.... and now they are coursing other
 
sweep_shot said:
Indeed.

I have written it many times. Minorities and women are not safe in chaiwala's India. Women are always in danger of being raped while minorities are in danger of being lynched.

What minorities go through in India is far worse than what minorities face in other subcontinental countries.

Minority oppression in India is state-sponsored.
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If they r not safe in India, why dont you take in your country? Originally they are illegal migrants
 
sweep_shot said:
Indians shouldn't point fingers at other countries until:

- Article 370 is restored.
- Babri masjid is restored in its original place.
- Arrange referendum in Indian-occupied Kashmir.
- Arrange referendum in Punjab for an independent Khalistan.
- Arrange referendum in Tamil Nadu for an independent Tamil state.
- Criminalize cow vigilantism and prosecute cow vigilante mobs.
- Ensure safety for minorities. Ensure there is no systematic discrimination.

:inti:inti
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Don't worry, I'll forward your request to our PM. He has a special liking for Pakistanis and Bangladeshis. He'll look into the matter.​
 
Genuine question, why are there no Pak hindu posters here? We were told reason no hindus in Pak cricket team because none of them are talented enough as present Pak team is filled with Bradman's. But one would expect in a forum as big and diverse as this, there will be atleast one non muslim Pak poster.
 
Rajdeep said:
Genuine question, why are there no Pak hindu posters here? We were told reason no hindus in Pak cricket team because none of them are talented enough as present Pak team is filled with Bradman's. But one would expect in a forum as big and diverse as this, there will be atleast one non muslim Pak poster.
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Majority of the Hindus in Pakistan live in the rural parts of Sindh,

If people in Karachi are struggling to get gas, electricity and clean water then you can only imagine how difficult it would be to live outside the urban areas.

So, the last thing on their minds would be logging into an online forum to interact with Raj from Southall, I could be wrong though.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
Majority of the Hindus in Pakistan live in the rural parts of Sindh,

If people in Karachi are struggling to get gas, electricity and clean water then you can only imagine how difficult it would be to live outside the urban areas.

So, the last thing on their minds would be logging into an online forum to interact with Raj from Southall, I could be wrong though.
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So that proves the point right that it is harder to be a Hindu in Pakistan than a muslim in India? The question OP is asking?
 
Rajdeep said:
So that proves the point right that it is harder to be a Hindu in Pakistan than a muslim in India? The question OP is asking?
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How? OP is referring to persecution of minorities.

Are the Pakistani Hindus being persecuted? Are their homes being bulldozed over petty crimes?
 
YousafTheBeast said:
How? OP is referring to persecution of minorities.

Are the Pakistani Hindus being persecuted? Are their homes being bulldozed over petty crimes?
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Oppression of Indian minorities is state-sponsored.

That is not the case in any other regional country. India is the only extremist country in the region.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
How? OP is referring to persecution of minorities.

Are the Pakistani Hindus being persecuted? Are their homes being bulldozed over petty crimes?
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Again only Pakistani hindus will be able to answer that, isn't it? As a Pakistani muslim, you dont speak for Pakistani hindus just like as an Indian hindu I dont speak for Indian muslims.

I can tag numerous Indian muslim posters here to get their opinion about the treatment they get in India. I have done that previously as well in another thread of OP only for him to get humiliated when Indian muslim posters categorically denied any such discrimination. All I am asking for is can you tag a single Pak hindu poster here and let him say exactly what you are saying. That will clarify things.

The only Pakistani Hindu I know is Danish Kaneria and he complained about religious discrimination he faced from his team mates. On the other hand, likes of Irfan Pathan or Zaheer Khan has nothing but praise for his team mates. So you claiming anything makes no sense. We need proofs.
 
sweep_shot said:
Oppression of Indian minorities is state-sponsored.

That is not the case in any other regional country. India is the only extremist country in the region.
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If Indian muslims are facing state sponsored oppression why not a single Indian muslim willing to leave India and take asylum overseas. We see Abduls from all over the world taking asylum in western world after being persecuted from their respective dodgy desert countries. However, no Indian muslims leave and their population only increasing. Yeh kaisa state sponsored oppression hai?

:yk :kp
 
Rajdeep said:
Again only Pakistani hindus will be able to answer that, isn't it? As a Pakistani muslim, you dont speak for Pakistani hindus just like as an Indian hindu I dont speak for Indian muslims.
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I said majority of Hindus live in rural areas of Sindh, where they barely have access to gas, electricity and water.

You said that proves it right, that the Pakistani Hindus have a harder life.

The op’s question was about persecution.

By your logic, we can’t talk about the persecution of minorities in Pakistan or India because, you’re not a minority in India and I’m not a minority in Pakistan.
 
In India, minority houses get bulldozed. Minorities are lynched by retarded cow vigilante mobs.

Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Maldives etc. don't have these. Not to this extent.

India is the #1 troublemaker in the region. They should stop interfering in other countries and treat their minorities better. Stop bulldozing their houses for a start. :inti
 
YousafTheBeast said:
I said majority of Hindus live in rural areas of Sindh, where they barely have access to gas, electricity and water.

You said that proves it right, that the Pakistani Hindus have a harder life.

The op’s question was about persecution.

By your logic, we can’t talk about the persecution of minorities in Pakistan or India because, you’re not a minority in India and I’m not a minority in Pakistan.
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Correct, we cannot talk about whether they are getting persecuted or not. It need to come from the horses mouth. The only difference being there are plenty of horses this side of the border but we get to neither hear or see any from Pakistan.

In a minority discussion between India and Pakistan, there is only one winner and its not even close.
 
Rajdeep said:
Correct, we cannot talk about whether they are getting persecuted or not. It need to come from the horses mouth. The only difference being there are plenty of horses this side of the border but we get to neither hear or see any from Pakistan.

In a minority discussion between India and Pakistan, there is only one winner and its not even close.
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Could be because India has over 200 million Muslims, compared to Pakistan having just 5 million Hindus.

:genius
 
YousafTheBeast said:
Could be because India has over 200 million Muslims, compared to Pakistan having just 5 million Hindus.

:genius
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But why? I thought Indian Muslim's are getting persecuted. How come there are 200 millions going strong?

Also, Pak hindus are treated so well and yet only 5 million .

:mv
 
Rajdeep said:
But why? I thought Indian Muslim's are getting persecuted. How come there are 200 millions going strong?

Also, Pak hindus are treated so well and yet only 5 million .

:mv
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Christian population in India is at 2.3%.

Hindu population in Pakistan is at 2.17%

Are Christians being persecuted in India?:gilly
 
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