Is it just me or does this Australian attack look very weak?

[aloo paratha]

because he doesnt go over 135k lol

Neither did Asif, neither did McGrath.

 

[aloo paratha]

Any attack will look weak in comparison to Rahat

I notice how you said attack, not even bowler, Rahat is so good, he IS our attack!

 

[Chrish]

It's the wicket..

Look at ind vs Eng current test for example. Same thing applies here

 

[Chief Destroyer]

It's the wicket..

Look at ind vs Eng current test for example. Same thing applies here

No, it doesn't. Game's about to finish within the 1st session.

It's been an excellent pitch.

 

[Big Mac]

I notice how you said attack, not even bowler, Rahat is so good, he IS our attack!

Rahat isn't just our attack, he is also our batting lineup. Did you notice how we didn't score a single run after Rahat was dismissed in the first innings? That's how important he is to the team.

 

[Gilly]

The Australians just won a match by taking 20 wickets for less runs than the Pakistan bowlers could get 15 wickets from.

 

[Buffet]

The Australians just won a match by taking 20 wickets for less runs than the Pakistan bowlers could get 15 wickets from.

Being stronger than Pakistan is not a good argument to show that Aus is not weak

 

[Speedster777]

Australians were able to run through our batting lineup twice. Pak bowlers need to do the same and stop the runs as well.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

Jackson bird couldn't get into the Pakistan team unless rahat ali was having a bad day


Hazel wood looked a different bowler with reverse swing and shah was lucky that wade was having a bad day with his mitts

Lyon bowled one Jaffa and then went back to bowling dross

 

[Ellipsism]

Australians were able to run through our batting lineup twice. Pak bowlers need to do the same and stop the runs as well.

450 is by no means running through a side.

 

[troodon]

Starc is either superb or rubbish. Goes for a lot of runs. But when he gets it right, he can hit the stumps at will.

Hazlewood is world class.

Bird is ok.

Lyon will is below average.

 

[Speedster777]

450 is by no means running through a side.

We could not even get 20 wickets

 

[aloo paratha]

Rahat isn't just our attack, he is also our batting lineup. Did you notice how we didn't score a single run after Rahat was dismissed in the first innings? That's how important he is to the team.

The mam, the myth the legend! Didn't even get out today, Stupid Yasir had to get run out, had it baan Rahat, that ball would've been a six!

 

[aloo paratha]

We could not even get 20 wickets

Neither did they let us lol.

 

[Speedster777]

Jackson bird couldn't get into the Pakistan team unless rahat ali was having a bad day


Hazel wood looked a different bowler with reverse swing and shah was lucky that wade was having a bad day with his mitts

Lyon bowled one Jaffa and then went back to bowling dross

But Starc is the real deal. No comparison with Bret Lee or Mcgrath of course but among the current lot he's the best can bowl 145 plus consistently with good line and length.

 

[Big Mac]

The mam, the myth the legend! Didn't even get out today, Stupid Yasir had to get run out, had it baan Rahat, that ball would've been a six!

Had it been Rahat, Steve Smith would have gathered the ball, shaped to run him out and for a split second would have locked eyes with the death stare and promptly turned 180 degress and thrown the ball to the boundary for four overthrows.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

But Starc is the real deal. No comparison with Bret Lee or Mcgrath of course but among the current lot he's the best can bowl 145 plus consistently with good line and length.

So impressed by starc
He really puts the ball in the right places and is consistent with his pace

 

[waleed88]

Conceding 450 runs, out of which 275 runs have been scored by the tail and a no.6 batsman.. concerns for Australia.. besides Hazelwood, every other bowler leaked runs

 

[ShoonyaSifar]

Conceding 450 runs, out of which 275 runs have been scored by the tail and a no.6 batsman.. concerns for Australia.. besides Hazelwood, every other bowler leaked runs

They took 20 wickets and won the test for their side. You can continue to call them weaker or whatever, but they have won a test for their side.

 

[waleed88]

They took 20 wickets and won the test for their side. You can continue to call them weaker or whatever, but they have won a test for their side.

They've been pretty poor at home off late, SA and now Pakistan have proved that they are not what they used to be... Fortress Gabba came under threat today first time in 28 years..
Pathetic bowling bar Hazelwood who couldn't get out 4 tailenders.. previous high score Down Under was 230 vs NZ

Also the highest score by a Pakistani team in Aussie for more than 20 years... that just shows how much the Australian cricket Standards have lessened over the years..

If this was a Bangladesh bowling attack or Srilankan I would understand because we have scored against them in the 4th innings too.. or this was a pitch in Multan or Mohali.. but Aussie pitches/ bowlers have historically always troubled us with pace and bounce..

you can call it whatever you want, but the game was in no doubt since day 3... Aussies have bowled so poorly they hardly deserve to win this game...

 

[Romali_rotti]

Most probably the weakest Aussie bowling attack till date... Starc has come a long way though...

 

[waleed88]

With the way things are going, this Aussie attack will be comparable to Bangladeshi and Srilankan attacks in no time.. considering they're now conceding 400+ in their 4th innings in their home grounds.. and losing home test matches..

the future looks pretty bleak for Australian cricket

 

[waleed88]

They're dropping catches too in crunch moments.. the yesteryear of Aussie cricket was known for its fielding that won the games for them in defining moments or a scenario where they held their nerves and others didn't..

This Test Match side is mental midgets compared to them..

 

[SL_Fan]

Very good Aussie attack for mine actually. Hoff and Bird to keep the batsmen in check and Starc as the enforcer. Then you have Lyon more than a decent offie especially when there's some bounce. It's just that the pink ball seems to go soft pretty quickly I think. Let's see how they go next Test with the red cherry.

 

[Gilly]

They're dropping catches too in crunch moments.. the yesteryear of Aussie cricket was known for its fielding that won the games for them in defining moments or a scenario where they held their nerves and others didn't..

This Test Match side is mental midgets compared to them..

I don't know if you grasp this but when you bag a team that just beat yours it belittles your own team even more.

 

[waleed88]

I don't know if you grasp this but when you bag a team that just beat yours it belittles your own team even more.

You can defend them all you like, but some blame has to go to Aussies for taking the game to the end.. there is no way they should've even come close to losing this game and they did... judging by their recent history in home conditions, don't see too many good omens for them

 

[street cricketer]

It does look a bit weak to me barring the opening duo.

Might struggle against strong batting teams.

 

[Buffet]

With the way things are going, this Aussie attack will be comparable to Bangladeshi and Srilankan attacks in no time.. considering they're now conceding 400+ in their 4th innings in their home grounds.. and losing home test matches..

the future looks pretty bleak for Australian cricket

Aus has only lost to SA at home, but that's not new. Lets wait for others to win in Aus before putting Aus down. Aus batting is raw and teams doesn't look that strong, but let's see if anyone actually wins in Aus.

 

[Madplayer]

There attack is good. They have 4 quality fast bowlers. 2 of them remain unfit thats the issue.

 

[waleed88]

310/6 with Mitchell Starc all over the place.. Bird doing the most damage

 

[joly]

Padosi batting has been spectacular,nothing wrong with the attack

 

[Syed1]

Looked like a pop gun bowling attack today if you ask me.

 

[Big Mac]

Looked like a pop gun bowling attack today if you ask me.

We've slowly ground them down UAE style and the overs are starting to add up. Shame it isn't a longer series or they'd be breaking down by the time we got to a fourth or fifth test. The rain has saved them from some serious pain

 

[AlphaFighter]

They need to get Mitchel Marsh in to ease the workload on the other pacers.

 

[Bewal Express]

This Aus attack is toothless and the batting is average at best, but unless something dramatic happens, they will still beat us. The Indians will make mince out of them.

 

[Vivek_86]

Their bowling attack is at the best honest and I am being very fair.

 

[Buffet]

A very weak Aus attack wrapping up two tests within 4 days of plays. Not bad...

 

[Asif321]

this attack is so weak they can finish match in 3 days

 

[Chrish]

It's the case of Pakistan being too weak more so than Australia being too strong

 

[MMHS]

It's you - if the bowlers remain healthy. What Aussies are missing a 35 overs tight bowler, so that Starc can run flat out for 18 overs a day at max. Bird will do fine in AUS/SAF/NZ/ENG, while Josh is as good as anyone there with new ball. So, basically it's just one hole to fill - Lyon is inferior than the blonde (that is now, when the blonde is almost 50 - still can serve better with 4 weeks training).

In India, Smith will have to bowl 15 overs at least, Aussies will need Lyon & the lefti spinner (got injured in SRL) to perform better than Bhai, Bhai pair + Starc/Josh has to be in supreme physical condition - it won't be that bad attack, particularly, if they bat first.

If I were Aussie selector, I would have rested Starc/Josh pair from PAK ODI (Cummins, Bird as well - unnecessary risk - AUS A can do the 5-0 job; if PAK wins an odd game, it'll be an upset win, doesn't matter who bowls for Aussies). In fact, if it goes to 2-0 by SCG, I'll rest that pair for 3rd Test as well.

Today, Lyon did something closer to the blonde in middle overs .............

 

[in_cutter]

With the way things are going, this Aussie attack will be comparable to Bangladeshi and Srilankan attacks in no time.. considering they're now conceding 400+ in their 4th innings in their home grounds.. and losing home test matches..

the future looks pretty bleak for Australian cricket

Yea okay mate.

 

[Buffet]

It's the case of Pakistan being too weak more so than Australia being too strong

True, but Aus bowling can't be called weak when they have Starc, Hazel opening for them.

 

[Chrish]

True, but Aus bowling can't be called weak when they have Starc, Hazel opening for them.

They are very good actually.. But on this sort of surface you have to bat very poorly to loose if required overs are less than 70.

i see posts Lyon did this, starc did that without people realizing that they were already in a position where worst case scenario for them was a draw. So they could attack without giving a damn about handing out runs to opposition.

You can say they cashed in against mentally shot opposition under scoreboard pressure.

 

[waleed88]

Yea okay mate.

Last innings performance doesn't hide that this attack has been dreadful.. a few gimme's to Nathan Lyon, who was your topic wicket taker changed everything

 

[waleed88]

Starc came back and knocked out the tail..

 

[Mamoon]

Starc and Hazlewood are world class while Bird is a serviceable bowler. Lyon is average but can chip in from time to time.

It is not a weak attack by any means.

 

[Gilly]

They are very good actually.. But on this sort of surface you have to bat very poorly to loose if required overs are less than 70.

i see posts Lyon did this, starc did that without people realizing that they were already in a position where worst case scenario for them was a draw. So they could attack without giving a damn about handing out runs to opposition.

You can say they cashed in against mentally shot opposition under scoreboard pressure.

Scoreboard pressure, 181 runs on a flat track is scoreboard pressure!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Chrish]

Scoreboard pressure, 181 runs on a flat track is scoreboard pressure!!!!!!!!!!!

Game would have been different for Pakistan if they would have got 15-20 runs lead with 4 over remaining. 2 overs would be lost when another side takes the strike and we might have situation where Australia requires X runs in 2 overs. Runs mattered for Pakistan; not so much for Australia as they weren't gonna loose the game.

 

[SandyB]

Fight better Pakistan ! You guys are giving way too much confidence to the Aussies before the India tour..

 

[Buffet]

Game would have been different for Pakistan if they would have got 15-20 runs lead with 4 over remaining. 2 overs would be lost when another side takes the strike and we might have situation where Australia requires X runs in 2 overs. Runs mattered for Pakistan; not so much for Australia as they weren't gonna loose the game.

But calling 180 runs on a flat track a scoreboard pressure is stretching it. If you are mentally shot and make even 50 runs a scoreboard pressure then no one can do much about it.

 

[Statsman]

According to some knowledgeable posters here Hazlewood is Nathan Astle/ Ganguly and Bird is a "club level bowler". Not to forget they are "exhausted". s

 

[Bewal Express]

This Aus attack is pretty average but our poor batting makes them look better than they are. They are better than our attack.

 

[Chrish]

But calling 180 runs on a flat track a scoreboard pressure is stretching it. If you are mentally shot and make even 50 runs a scoreboard pressure then no one can do much about it.

things do get difficult for a team when there is no probability of win on sight and the best likely outcome would be draw.. the only surprise is they couldn't bat it out after scoring decent runs in their last two innings.

 

[Buffet]

things do get difficult for a team when there is no probability of win on sight and the best likely outcome would be draw.. the only surprise is they couldn't bat it out after scoring decent runs in their last two innings.

Not denying that, but I won't call it a scoreboard pressure. It was just 180 runs in bank when Aus started bowling.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Fight better Pakistan ! You guys are giving way too much confidence to the Aussies before the India tour..

That's good actually. We will smash their confidence and humiliate them 4-0

 

[SandyB]

That's good actually. We will smash their confidence and humiliate them 4-0

Nopes. Not expecting a 4-0 this time. If pitches are Flat like the Eng series Aussies can run away with a Draw or maybe even sneak a win.. Want rank turners baby. Time for & :jaddu to average 11-12 again !!

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Nopes. Not expecting a 4-0 this time. If pitches are Flat like the Eng series Aussies can run away with a Draw or maybe even sneak a win.. Want rank turners baby. Time for & :jaddu to average 11-12 again !!

We will most certainly have turners this series. It will be hot and dusty and OZ won't know what hit them

 

[street cricketer]

Just how strong is the attack?

 

[street cricketer]

I think Pakistan's two old men in the middle order and two rookies top of the order has made the attack look better than they are.

Starc and Hazelwood are still two very fine bowlers. But don't think the current attack is potent enough to skittle teams on flat tracks like their previous attacks used to.

 

[Pete Rose]

Just how strong is the attack?

The Pakistani batsmen have not shown it consistently but there isn't a lot to fear from starc or halzewood

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Just how strong is the attack?

Their opening bowlers are class. The rest are ordinary.

 

[R0H1T]

Just how strong is the attack?

Below avg on flat tracks, they generally rely (heavily) on scoreboard pressure to beat their opponents especially in Aus, that or Mitch in red hot form.

For all the praise that Starc got for his 27 wickets in SL, though he did bowl pretty well, those wickets had something in it for the pacers & SL is probably the worst side when it comes to playing pace, from Asia. Would be really interesting how many "turners" we get when they tour us, anything close to SL/BD type wickets & it'd be a procession from Aussie batters.