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Is it time to recall Mohammad Amir for the 2023 World Cup?

Is it time to recall Mohammad Amir for the 2023 World Cup?

  • Yes it's time to recall Mohammad Amir

    Votes: 47 53.4%

  • No I don't think we should pick him

    Votes: 41 46.6%
  • Total voters
    88
  • Poll closed .
Major said:
no one is missing a spot fixer.
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He's won Pakistan 2 x white ball tournaments. He's still a hero of Pakistan cricket despite what he did 13 years ago. This is so petty, get over it.

I would rather take him despite his spot fixing than someone who plays for their place in the side during a Semi-Final of a WC.
 
Major said:
nope, i did not celebrate a spot fixer playing for pakistan again. The last time i enjoyed watching amir was 2010.

Anyways, i am glad the criminal amir is not in the pakistani team anymore. His fans can make threads and post, he will never play for Pakistan inshallah.

No criminals allowed
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You’re telling me you were upset that Amir got Rohit and Kohli out ?
 
As a neutral and as someone who plays basic club level cricket, this obsession and fascination for past players is ridiculous. Form and fitness dips over the years. That's a fact. Only India and Pakistan have this fascination of clinging on to past players. Pak lost 96 sf clinging onto a way past Miandad . India lost 2019 sf holding onto ms dhoni who was way past his sell date. Eng dropped Jason Roy and Morgan retired even though he was still good enough. That's how champion teams work.
 
Major said:
i did not care.

Pakistan had won when Fakhar Zaman scored that century. He got the man of the match not amir the criminal
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You have an interest in Pakistan cricket so you must've cared. Were you upset or happy for Pakistan when the wickets of Rohit, Dhawan and Kohli had taken place?

Yes Fakhar got a hundred but that Oval wicket was so flat, it was literally a batting paradise. Had Pakistan not scored 370+ and had Amir (or any of the other bowlers) got the wickets of India's top 3 in the first 10 overs, I can promise you they would've chased the total down with ease. Look at how easy it was to bat on for India after the first 10 overs, they were spanking Pakistan's spinners. All India had to do was get to the first 10 overs and make at least 50 runs without losing more than one wicket. They failed to do that because of Amir.

You're not going to give him credit because Misbah wouldn't want you to and you've admitted to me that you support him more than the Pakistan cricket team.
 
topspin said:
You have an interest in Pakistan cricket so you must've cared. Were you upset or happy for Pakistan when the wickets of Rohit, Dhawan and Kohli had taken place?

Yes Fakhar got a hundred but that Oval wicket was so flat, it was literally a batting paradise. Had Pakistan not scored 370+ and had Amir (or any of the other bowlers) got the wickets of India's top 3 in the first 10 overs, I can promise you they would've chased the total down with ease. Look at how easy it was to bat on for India after the first 10 overs, they were spanking Pakistan's spinners. All India had to do was get to the first 10 overs and make at least 50 runs without losing more than one wicket. They failed to do that because of Amir.

You're not going to give him credit because Misbah wouldn't want you to and you've admitted to me that you support him more than the Pakistan cricket team.
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Every time amir wore tha pakistan shirt and had the cap on his head, i despised him. I will never remember what he did back i in 2010. I couldn't care less when he took wickets.

Anyways, i knew Pakistan had won cause of what Fakhar did. In the end everyone agreed that it was Fakhar who won the match, not Amir, hence the MOTM went to Fakhar
 
Major said:
Every time amir wore tha pakistan shirt and had the cap on his head, i despised him. I will never remember what he did back i in 2010. I couldn't care less when he took wickets.

Anyways, i knew Pakistan had won cause of what Fakhar did. In the end everyone agreed that it was Fakhar who won the match, not Amir, hence the MOTM went to Fakhar
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I agree that Fakhar deserved the MOTM for 2 reasons. It was an amazing knock in an ICC ODI tournament final. Secondly, no Pakistani batsman has played an innings like that against India in an ICC event.

But, their contributions were equally important. You take away Fakhar's runs, Pakistan would've been fallen short of setting a sufficient number of runs to defend. At the same time, without Amir's wickets of perhaps the best top 3 of all time (in white ball cricket), I strongly believe India would've won that final on that batting paradise.

Had Amir taken a 5fer then for me I would've given him MOTM because to take that many wickets (including their top 3) on a very batting friendly is just too difficult to overlook for the prize.
 
topspin said:
I agree that Fakhar deserved the MOTM for 2 reasons. It was an amazing knock in an ICC ODI tournament final. Secondly, no Pakistani batsman has played an innings like that against India in an ICC event.

But, their contributions were equally important. You take away Fakhar's runs, Pakistan would've been fallen short of setting a sufficient number of runs to defend. At the same time, without Amir's wickets of perhaps the best top 3 of all time (in white ball cricket), I strongly believe India would've won that final on that batting paradise.

Had Amir taken a 5fer then for me I would've given him MOTM because to take that many wickets (including their top 3) on a very batting friendly is just too difficult to overlook for the prize.
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We had hassan ali, the highest wicket taker of the tournament and Man of the tournament. We had Junaid Khan aswell. Hassan Ali got Dhoni.

We won cause of Hassan Ali and Fakhar on the final.
 
Amir is a dangerous bowler. He has caused collapses on Indian pitches. He’s a top-notch bowler with the new ball. No reason why he was ignored. Shameful PCB.
 
People are dreaming as if Amir can still replicate his heroics from the 2016/2017 era.

The reality is that he was dropped for a reason and since being dropped he has NEVER been able to force his way back into the side.

He has formally retired, doesn't bother to play domestic cricket anymore and by all accounts is very happy being a t20 mercenary with no allegiance to anyone.

He clearly doesn't miss wearing the green and isn't prepared to sacrifice any of his own needs for Pakistan.

And yet there are those who are begging for his return in 2023. Where is your self respect?
 
hitthestump said:
People are dreaming as if Amir can still replicate his heroics from the 2016/2017 era.

The reality is that he was dropped for a reason and since being dropped he has NEVER been able to force his way back into the side.

He has formally retired, doesn't bother to play domestic cricket anymore and by all accounts is very happy being a t20 mercenary with no allegiance to anyone.

He clearly doesn't miss wearing the green and isn't prepared to sacrifice any of his own needs for Pakistan.

And yet there are those who are begging for his return in 2023. Where is your self respect?
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There’s no alternative, the World Cup is the most prestigious trophy in cricket, I’ll take a handicapped Amir over the current bowlers we have right now, he can’t be any worse.

Ben Stokes retired from ODI’s, ECB begged him to come back having played no list a cricket.
 
Amir called himself a 'buddha' in an interview when he is still 30 on paper.

Shows that he like many others fudged his age. I am assuming he is 34-35 now looking at his pace.

Anyways, he himself is not interested in coming back otherwise would have taken retirement back once Sethi took over.

For me personally, Amir would rank as the best Pakistani bowler I saw. Never watched Wasim and Waqar, but Amir was miles ahead of the current Pacers we have.
 
TheSultan said:
I’m pretty sure a little bit of massaging his ego (this is leadership - you deal with different people differently) and he could have been re-integrated in.

I think that was the order of the day. But unfortunately we don’t have any leaders.
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Well said. Leadership is not required for players like Babar or Shaheen. Leadership is required for integrating difficult characters and getting the best out of them
 
hitthestump said:
People are dreaming as if Amir can still replicate his heroics from the 2016/2017 era.

The reality is that he was dropped for a reason and since being dropped he has NEVER been able to force his way back into the side.

He has formally retired, doesn't bother to play domestic cricket anymore and by all accounts is very happy being a t20 mercenary with no allegiance to anyone.

He clearly doesn't miss wearing the green and isn't prepared to sacrifice any of his own needs for Pakistan.

And yet there are those who are begging for his return in 2023. Where is your self respect?
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Who is saying anyone wants Amir to replicate the 2016-7 form? We are saying we are short of bowlers, yes the front line bowlers are brilliant, and all being fully fit, Amir doesn’t have a place in the side. But if you look outside the front line, there is a serious lack of quality. I’m not saying even if comes back, he takes a leading role in the side.

However, after last year’s T20 World Cup. The following things happened:

1. Shaheen injured (again) in the T20 final
2. Clear that Wasim Jr and Dahani are not finished products and very far from getting there.
2. Rauf injured (again) after 1st innings of first Test vs England
3. Naseem injured (again) during England test.
4. Hasnain injured

By this time, anyone with a brain in the PCB or team management or captain unfantastic himself should have come to the following conclusion: Our frontline 3 pacers are very good, but are injury prone and they need backup. The current backup bowlers are clearly not good enough.

Now next, PSL happened.

1. Amir looked decent with better pace and movement in PSL.
2. Amir Jamal impressed in the PSL with good pace (and had already announced himself a few months prior vs England in a brilliant last over
3. Ihsanullah was a revelation.

All 3 decent options for Pakistan (even if it was for T20s).

From this list: Ihsanullah was drafted in vs Afghanistan (good), Amir Jamal (completely forgotten about) and Amir ignored.

Surely there should have been a plan of action to speak to Amir, negotiate a little, feed his ego or whatever. Start integrating him back in to the fold even if it was for T20s at the time. This could have been built upon for ODIs too. Also to start give Jamal some international exposure.

And this became even more important once they realised Ihsanullah and Hasnain are injured.

But our geniuses had a better plan. Faheem Ashraf, Wasim Junior and Hassan Ali.

Seriously, give me a break!
 
Major said:
no one is missing a spot fixer.
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This "Spot fixer" dismantled india's top order and won you the CT final?

And yes we are missing him especially if the likes of wasim JR and Hasan Ali are bowling. Ya Allah khair karei hamarei world cup ka.

Only God can save us from the WC outing.
 
mominsaigol said:
This "Spot fixer" dismantled india's top order and won you the CT final?

And yes we are missing him especially if the likes of wasim JR and Hasan Ali are bowling. Ya Allah khair karei hamarei world cup ka.

Only God can save us from the WC outing.
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One should always be afraid of upsetting God by taking his role of as the ‘true arbitrator’ into their own hands.
 
Major said:
Every time amir wore tha pakistan shirt and had the cap on his head, i despised him. I will never remember what he did back i in 2010. I couldn't care less when he took wickets.

Anyways, i knew Pakistan had won cause of what Fakhar did. In the end everyone agreed that it was Fakhar who won the match, not Amir, hence the MOTM went to Fakhar
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That is not true.

Fakhar made an important match winning century, but hafeez had to finish extremely well or we'd have gotten a 280-290 score.

Azhar Ali also kept pace with fakhar through and through and made sure the run rate didn't drop.

And the way pandya was batting, if any of the top order contributed to a score we'd have lost.

You're acting as if Kohli, Rohit, And dhawan are nothing players and haven't single handedly mocked 330+ scores and chased them down as if their walk in the parks.

Everyone deserves praise, quit the selling the country ego, your bias is 100% showing.

Fakhar 100 + Hafeez's finish + azhar ali's run rate acceleration + Amir's 3 World class early wickets + Shadab's yuvraj and hasan ali's Dhoni wicket + Pandya's run out via smart pressure decision making from sarfraz + Sarfraz instilling a winning mentality something misbah and Babar could never do in their lives.

^^ All these guys together won you the match. CT is a historic moment for Pakistan because we all played like a team, an actual team that cared about bringing honor to the country, all 11 players playing that day including babar and malik should be applauded.

2017 ct and 2021 t20 world cup was the last time we all played like a match winning unit. Since then we've regressed to selfish milestones, and nepotsitic comments where shadab, Rizwan, Babar are more geared towards protecting themselves them creating a fair unit capable of winning the world cup.

Your misbah ironically has done 100x more damage then amir has done for the his country, its too bad misbah doesn't get the spot fixing label because he straight up nuked Pakistan from the inside, the same way babar is nuking it as well.
 
BouncerGuy said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1708415192592195767
Look at the wickets taken and stumps being uprooted by Mohammad Amir in CPL 2023 edition.
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Some of those deliveries - phew.

I think a lot of people are so unwilling to put things in perspective and update their judgement on what’s happening now.

Personally, I was convinced Amir was finished 2 years ago when he was atrocious in the Hundred.

But he has come back strong in the PSL, BPL and now continued it in the CPL. It’s enough evidence for me to update my assessment and know that he definitely isn’t finished.

Couple that with the fact we have so many injuries and pathetic reserves, it’s madness we’re ignoring him!
 
TheSultan said:
Who is saying anyone wants Amir to replicate the 2016-7 form? We are saying we are short of bowlers, yes the front line bowlers are brilliant, and all being fully fit, Amir doesn’t have a place in the side. But if you look outside the front line, there is a serious lack of quality. I’m not saying even if comes back, he takes a leading role in the side.

However, after last year’s T20 World Cup. The following things happened:

1. Shaheen injured (again) in the T20 final
2. Clear that Wasim Jr and Dahani are not finished products and very far from getting there.
2. Rauf injured (again) after 1st innings of first Test vs England
3. Naseem injured (again) during England test.
4. Hasnain injured

By this time, anyone with a brain in the PCB or team management or captain unfantastic himself should have come to the following conclusion: Our frontline 3 pacers are very good, but are injury prone and they need backup. The current backup bowlers are clearly not good enough.

Now next, PSL happened.

1. Amir looked decent with better pace and movement in PSL.
2. Amir Jamal impressed in the PSL with good pace (and had already announced himself a few months prior vs England in a brilliant last over
3. Ihsanullah was a revelation.

All 3 decent options for Pakistan (even if it was for T20s).

From this list: Ihsanullah was drafted in vs Afghanistan (good), Amir Jamal (completely forgotten about) and Amir ignored.

Surely there should have been a plan of action to speak to Amir, negotiate a little, feed his ego or whatever. Start integrating him back in to the fold even if it was for T20s at the time. This could have been built upon for ODIs too. Also to start give Jamal some international exposure.

And this became even more important once they realised Ihsanullah and Hasnain are injured.

But our geniuses had a better plan. Faheem Ashraf, Wasim Junior and Hassan Ali.

Seriously, give me a break!
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In 2017 we were all playing like a collective match winning unit.

In 2023 we won't win the cup because everyone is busy fighting for their positions amongst themselves by trying to lick the boots of the 4 golden boys (Rizzu, Babar, Sheddy and Shaheen).

That's the difference in mentality. People still think CT 2017 was a fluke. Maybe the SA and Sri lanka game sure.

The England game and India game nope, their wasn't any team that day that could stop our unit. Irrespective of the players. Its all about mentality. Something babar has failed to grasp since he became captain.

He won't select amir because amir won't lick his boots and isn't gonna bother fighting the team for his position, same way imad waseem won't bother fighting for his position.

As imad waseem says: If the selectors and captain don't like me, just say it to my face, Spare me the nonsense excuses and the lies.
 
Mohammad Amir asked an awkward question...

 
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Imad Wasim when asked who would you call first if you become captain...

 
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Cricket Warrior said:
Imad Wasim when asked who would you call first if you become captain...

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He will then add Salman Butt, Sharjeel, and Asif and do a conference call to invite them all back.

Imad will alo get the PCB management to install something near the pakistan dressing room where they can all throw their cigarette butts.
 
Mohammad Hafeez was asked a question on Mohammad Amir's return into the national team. This is what he replied?

"I personally called Mohammad Amir and told him that if he wants to play for Pakistan, he is free to take back his retirement and get back in the system. If he performs in domestic, he will be considered purely on the basis on merit. He communicated to me that he had moved on."
 
A person who never cared about Pakistan, and did politics against Waqar and Misbah just so win sympathy and get away with playing league cricket, ended up getting exposed later.

One of the worst human beings to wear the Pakistani cap and represent my nation.

Than again, he sold the country for a few pounds so what to expect from a person like him
 
I don’t get it with these Amir haters…does Pakistan need him or not?

When his supporters kept saying that Pakistan need him, his haters would tell us that we have better options.

What’s the issue now if he doesn’t want to play for Pakistan anymore?
 
Rana said:
I don’t get it with these Amir haters…does Pakistan need him or not?

When his supporters kept saying that Pakistan need him, his haters would tell us that we have better options.

What’s the issue now if he doesn’t want to play for Pakistan anymore?
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It doesn’t matter what anyone says. Amir is the best pacer in Pakistan. He was the best pacer when he was dropped and he continues to be so.
If I were him, I would have also hung my boots. Never go near any institution that doesn’t value and respect what you have to offer.
 
100%. People who hate on others are low key miserable.
Amir is one of the best pacers and we have missed his services for the last 3 years. Egos and poor intentions have caused havoc in the cricketing community of pakistan and as a country as whole as well
 
We either have toxic players like him or softie cakes. No stand-up honest, yet confident players. Except for Shaheen. He’s fighting for his life, cricket wise, despite carrying an injury since last year.
 
Rana said:
I don’t get it with these Amir haters…does Pakistan need him or not?

When his supporters kept saying that Pakistan need him, his haters would tell us that we have better options.

What’s the issue now if he doesn’t want to play for Pakistan anymore?
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He is a finished cricketer. He mostly plays low quality leagues. Why doesn't he get picked by BBL, ILT or SA league ?


He struggled in last PSL as well.
 
muazy1 said:
100%. People who hate on others are low key miserable.
Amir is one of the best pacers and we have missed his services for the last 3 years. Egos and poor intentions have caused havoc in the cricketing community of pakistan and as a country as whole as well
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Do you think his own ego and his poor intentions may have contributed to the havoc, or is it the fault of others?
 
His franchise was willing to trade him for Naseem Shah, shows you how far he has fallen in the pecking order if PSL is also considered as a criteria.

Amir himself knows he has a limited future and no way will he be picked if he is told to go back and play domestic cricket.
 
Usman Chadda said:
His franchise was willing to trade him for Naseem Shah, shows you how far he has fallen in the pecking order if PSL is also considered as a criteria.

Amir himself knows he has a limited future and no way will he be picked if he is told to go back and play domestic cricket.
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Agreed

He won’t have the drive to perform. He feels he doesn’t need to prove anything. I agree with Amir

Pick him for what he offers now, or don’t pick him.
 
Amir does not want to play for Pakistan anymore. He is getting more money playing leagues so why would he play domestic for a few pennies when compared to other leagues that pay heavy money. We should move on now as Amir is past now.
 
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