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Is Karachi Kings' preference for the wrong players causing them to be a bad franchise?

Malik and Haider needs to go. They are not your reinforcements. They are liabilities. Haider has no brains. Malik has no bronze. Bring in Qasim Akram and Tayyab Tahir. Play Shamsie instead of Cutting so you get decent spin bowling options to cover for the deficit in fast bowling attack. Let Irfan Niazi play the role of Ben cutting in the team. We don’t have any pollards waiting in the dugout. So hedge your bets on youngsters. If they fail, they learn from their mistakes. If they do well, then sky is the limit.
 
Angrez Pakistani said:
Malik and Haider needs to go. They are not your reinforcements. They are liabilities. Haider has no brains. Malik has no bronze. Bring in Qasim Akram and Tayyab Tahir. Play Shamsie instead of Cutting so you get decent spin bowling options to cover for the deficit in fast bowling attack. Let Irfan Niazi play the role of Ben cutting in the team. We don’t have any pollards waiting in the dugout. So hedge your bets on youngsters. If they fail, they learn from their mistakes. If they do well, then sky is the limit.
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Bro, there’s a method to building successful franchise squads, that Karachi and to an extent Quetta don’t employ:

1) Always, always, always build your squad around young local hungry players. That way no never have availability issues and they stay with you for a long time. Look at LQ w/ Shaheen, Haris, Fakhar etc. Look at PZ w/ Babar, Haris, Saim etc

2) Pick emerging players that you’ll actually place faith in. KK basically use Niazi as an afterthought and benched Qasim after *one* bad game. LQ, on the other hand have stuck with Tahir Baig, and are seeing some returns. See also with Multan and Afridi/Ihsanullah.

3) Use foreign players with well thought out plans, but don’t make them the centrepiece of your teams function. James Wade was a platinum pick for KK, but has been played in different positions throughout the matches.

We can blame individuals for the performances, but Karachi’s squad building by its management is atrocious. Thereby, they deserve to lose.
 
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Tumm aise mujhe, dekha na karo

Jee [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION]
 
[VIDEO] Has Wasim Akram's position as President of Karachi Kings become untenable?

After the disaster of PSL 7, Karachi's position in PSL 8 shows no sign of improvement. Given his stature in Pakistan cricket, a lot was expected of him but he seems to have failed to deliver. Is his position untenable?


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wasim Akram is not a happy man <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL8?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL8</a> <a href="https://t.co/oFFcwFbMS7">pic.twitter.com/oFFcwFbMS7</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1628463413339820032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 22, 2023</a></blockquote>
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I agree with Ramiz Raja regarding Akram's frustration.

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Ramiz speaking on his YT

“You can’t do anything while sitting outside. You have to back the players you have selected. You need to analyse things with a cool head. These gestures only create more frustration"

“Plus, it doesn’t look good in terms of optics, if you can’t control your temper, which is most important in this position, so it is better to be not in public view"
 
I would have expected him to have the courage to face the media and press atleast once to defend the team.
 
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It is possible that his role with KK is over-estimated and he is nothing but a glorified mentor. However, if he is a key decision maker in terms of draft selection, team composition etc, then there is a problem.
 
I recon KK will still sneak in to the top 4 over PZ on net run rate
 
Rana said:
I recon KK will still sneak in to the top 4 over PZ on net run rate
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They’ll need to start winning first before that scenario to actually work for them. Can’t go to the playoffs on net run rate with only 2 points to boot.
 
Angrez Pakistani said:
They’ll need to start winning first before that scenario to actually work for them. Can’t go to the playoffs on net run rate with only 2 points to boot.
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I think they will beat PZ and LQ again

They need to make sure they don’t botch the QG game like they did last time. Multan Sultans and IU will be a challange
 
Rana said:
I recon KK will still sneak in to the top 4 over PZ on net run rate
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That’s very plausible. I have been predicting this for the past week. The Zalmi are in no good condition this PSL—the cricket they have been playing has been largely dismal, disappointing, and disastrous. Karachi is the stronger side, but they need an extra one or two wins soon for the mainstream people to notice.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Karachi Kings fans probably wondering why it has taken 6 matches for Tayyab Tahir to make his debut at this Pakistan Super League <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL8?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL8</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KKvMS?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KKvMS</a> <a href="https://t.co/OLKlDrODpB">pic.twitter.com/OLKlDrODpB</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1629789018190667776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2023</a></blockquote>
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Tayyab Tahir regarding Wasim Akram "he was asking me what number I am comfortable at and asking me how I bat".

I would have thought that he should know how he bats already!
 
Saj said:
Tayyab Tahir regarding Wasim Akram "he was asking me what number I am comfortable at and asking me how I bat".

I would have thought that he should know how he bats already!
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Exactly! Shows the lack of interest in his own players.

Seems like Wasim Akram has too much going on in his life that he doesnt have any time for KK.
 
Tayyab and Tabraiz - all Karachi needed to start wining - glad for my team!!!
 
They lost a few games they shouldn't have. Poor captaincy to keep Shamsi out . Also wade is no opener. He is wasting an overseas slot
 
[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] was very concerned about KKs preference of players

He was so emotionally distraught at their poor results

Major will be very happy today as Imad totally outclassed Rizwan
 
If Amir comes back that will boost KK's chances of securing top 4.
 
I feel retired legends like Kumble, Akram etc see franchise cricket as easy paycheck. They don't really seem invested in their jobs. Akram is similar to Kumble in coaching style. Inflexible, lazy, poor communicator, reactive not proactive and never takes responsibility on himself for team's failure. Can't believe Tayyab was in dugout and he didn't saw his value. Also, still don't understand his logic of playing Shoaib useless Malik.
 
Why not expand the PsL by adding another Karachi franchise as the Karachi King's hardly have added any legacy, hopefully some sugar daddy will come ahead for another Karachi franchise like Karachi Maharajas or Karachi Nawabs
 
Rana said:
[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] was very concerned about KKs preference of players

He was so emotionally distraught at their poor results

Major will be very happy today as Imad totally outclassed Rizwan
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I’ve given you a lot of grief over Imad’s captaincy on this forum. But fair play to him, he juggled his bowlers really well today. I especially liked how he bought on Yamin and soon as they got Masood out ( finish off the weak bowlers overs).

Also, you saw today, when he bowls outside the PP and spins the ball, he can be a real addition to the Pakistan team. That Brathwaite wicket was great.

I still think he’s not selecting his best team though. Qasim needs to be in the team ahead of Yamin.

And this is why they won’t win it. They will probs make the playoffs tho, ahead of Babar and PZ.
 
KingOfPakBreakfast said:
I’ve given you a lot of grief over Imad’s captaincy on this forum. But fair play to him, he juggled his bowlers really well today. I especially liked how he bought on Yamin and soon as they got Masood out ( finish off the weak bowlers overs).

Also, you saw today, when he bowls outside the PP and spins the ball, he can be a real addition to the Pakistan team. That Brathwaite wicket was great.

I still think he’s not selecting his best team though. Qasim needs to be in the team ahead of Yamin.

And this is why they won’t win it. They will probs make the playoffs tho, ahead of Babar and PZ.
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Qasim ahead of Irfan Khan, not Yamin. Yamin can swing the new ball and can bowl slower balls which is handy skillset for T20Is.
 
Imad's captaincy is good, but team selections still need improvement.

KK benching Sharjeel is strange.

With Malik bowling well, they are playing a bowler too many. This should be their lineup next:

Sharjeel, Vince, Tayyab, Imad, Wade, Malik, Qasim, Cutting/Yamin, Amir, Shamsi, Akif
 
KyoOne said:
Qasim ahead of Irfan Khan, not Yamin. Yamin can swing the new ball and can bowl slower balls which is handy skillset for T20Is.
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Yamin is not what he used to be. And given the LQ wicket today, he’s the last bowler you need bowling on those belters.

You play both Qasim and Niazi, because Qasim can bowl handy off spin in the PP and Niazi improves the fielding and is a handy bat
 
Usman Chadda said:
How on earth did they bench Shamsi for so long?
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because they are a dumb franchise. Have produced 0 players. They have a habit of benching star players and playing mediocre over hyper social media players.

I think its the only team to not produce any young player. All other teams have produced alot of players.
 
Major said:
because they are a dumb franchise. Have produced 0 players. They have a habit of benching star players and playing mediocre over hyper social media players.

I think its the only team to not produce any young player. All other teams have produced alot of players.
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The owner is only interested in slapping numerous real estate projects advertisements on the team jersey.

It is arguably the worst run franchise in the history of PSL. Karachites deserve better than this rubbish.
 
I think they have been a bit unlucky as well with some close loses. So people should bear that in mind before criticizing selection etc.
 
KyoOne said:
Imad's captaincy is good, but team selections still need improvement.

KK benching Sharjeel is strange.

With Malik bowling well, they are playing a bowler too many. This should be their lineup next:

Sharjeel, Vince, Tayyab, Imad, Wade, Malik, Qasim, Cutting/Yamin, Amir, Shamsi, Akif
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Amir and Musa will be a clear swap

Fuller is decent with the bat, they can bring him in instead of Vince (who played his last game)and move Tayyab to open with Wade

Qasim should swap with Niazi I recon but Niazi hasn’t done much wrong to be benched tbf
 
Shoaib Malik, Ben Cutting - 2 names who should never be in a Karachi Squad.
 
[MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION] 7 for 3 and than get a tatget of 190+ :)))

Joke of a team
 
Karachi is the new Qalandars. We also had Sohail Akhtar as skipper once upon a time.
It's funny though because I always thought Karachi had more brainy people than Lahore.
 
The sight of Malik getting out yesterday, was one to behold for ages.
 
Energy said:
Karachi is the new Qalandars. We also had Sohail Akhtar as skipper once upon a time.
It's funny though because I always thought Karachi had more brainy people than Lahore.
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I think they had some brains the year they had Dean Jones as coach. Other than that, they just don’t seem to take themselves seriously. No back up players by position, regular reliance on a couple of performers. And the management constantly takes no responsibility—year after year. They whine about a lot of things. But if you line up a good squad, you can still do well like the Sultans or Islamabad still do.
 
MenInG said:
Shoaib Malik, Ben Cutting - 2 names who should never be in a Karachi Squad.
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True.

And who is this overseas guy Adam Rossington? He wouldnt get into my Sunday XI.

Once they had risked putting Sharjeel in the side they should have just trusted and continued with him.

Wasim Akram and others in the think tank need to go. I feel KK has too many bosses and Imad is not being allowed to lead his own way.
 
I feel Sharjeel should be given one last chance - Cannot be any worse than the current situation.
 
MenInG said:
I feel Sharjeel should be given one last chance - Cannot be any worse than the current situation.
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It’s not difficult for them, given that they’re up against it.

Open w/ Sharjeel and Haider. Ask to go from ball one.

Have Wade come in at 6. Have Qasim come in at 3/4. Play both Tahir and Shamsi. Have Imad bowl in the PP:

Sharjeel
Haider
Tahir
Qasim
Malik
Imad
Wade
Akif
Amir
Tahir
Shamsi


It’s a longer tail, but you have 5 genuine bowling options.

Imad, Malik and Wade can float based on left tight combos and game state,

Also, opening simplies the game for Haider and Sharjeel. No, feeling your way in. Just go and hit.
 
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Sharjeel has been a huge flop so far this season.

He was probably one of KK's key players, to get them runs and score quickly.

When one of your key players flops, then you will be up against it.
 
Wasim Akram not too pleased with the criticism directed at him!

"For some odd reason people criticize me, all the time, please explain that to me, I am not even playing cricket!"

"I am all OK with people having their opinions, but my advice to the younger generation of Pakistanis in general is to criticize and then move on to the next game, it's Ok as at the end of the day, it's just a game"

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Saj said:
Sharjeel has been a huge flop so far this season.

He was probably one of KK's key players, to get them runs and score quickly.

When one of your key players flops, then you will be up against it.
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Losing Vince is the biggest loss - with him they still had a chance for the playoffs.
 
MenInG said:
Wasim Akram not too pleased with the criticism directed at him!

"For some odd reason people criticize me, all the time, please explain that to me, I am not even playing cricket!"

"I am all OK with people having their opinions, but my advice to the younger generation of Pakistanis in general is to criticize and then move on to the next game, it's Ok as at the end of the day, it's just a game"

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Look, it is just a game.

However, there has to be some ownership of bad results from the team president in Wasim. You can’t expect people in Karachi to come to home games and earn the franchise money, if the team President himself washes his hands off the results!

However, given Karachi kings shoddy structure, why am I not surprised.
 
At the end of the day the PSL is a plaything for the owners.

Yes a win is great, but the reality is it's business for the guys running the franchises.
 
Saj said:
At the end of the day the PSL is a plaything for the owners.

Yes a win is great, but the reality is it's business for the guys running the franchises.
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Surely they want to enhance the brand, don’t they? Being the worst team in the land is hardly going to bring in fan investment, is it?
 
[MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION] jee where are you?

Why no bumping?

Last night i went specially to the game to see karachi lose
 
Major said:
[MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION] jee where are you?

Why no bumping?

Last night i went specially to the game to see karachi lose
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Think goal posts have now moved from teams to players :D

To be honest, I am gutted with the Karachi loss. This was in the bag.

We can say Azam Khan played the best but as we say in Karachi "KK wallon nay kiya choorian pahan rakhee theen?"

Cmon, for all the good that Imad did with the bat, he could not deliver as captain on the field.
 
KingOfPakBreakfast said:
Surely they want to enhance the brand, don’t they? Being the worst team in the land is hardly going to bring in fan investment, is it?
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Photo opportunities, get their brand all over the team shirts, get their faces on tv, get media attention.

Do they really care for Pakistan cricket? I doubt it.
 
Major said:
[MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION] jee where are you?

Why no bumping?

Last night i went specially to the game to see karachi lose
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They are so much better and competitive without Babar tbh
 
KingOfPakBreakfast said:
Surely they want to enhance the brand, don’t they? Being the worst team in the land is hardly going to bring in fan investment, is it?
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They don't want or need fan investment.

None of the teams do.

They just need sponsors who are daft enough to link their companies to these franchises.
 
Ramiz Raja on KK's loss to IU

"Look, from this match, this is certain that when you are playing at home ground you can even attain a magnanimous 200 runs target - which happens to be true for Islamabad United as it was their home ground. On contrary, Karachi Kings have lost their self-belief as a team altogether, because their mind is stuck in a negative spiral due to continuous defeats and hence they weren't able to defend even 200,"
 
MenInG said:
Wasim Akram not too pleased with the criticism directed at him!

"For some odd reason people criticize me, all the time, please explain that to me, I am not even playing cricket!"

"I am all OK with people having their opinions, but my advice to the younger generation of Pakistanis in general is to criticize and then move on to the next game, it's Ok as at the end of the day, it's just a game"

4owp72o.jpg
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What a foolish and ignorant comment by Wasim then. If you are at a top position in the franchise, including playing a key role in selections, and the team is consistently performing as poorly as Karachi has, then of course you will be criticized and should be expecting the criticism. Wasim is happy to have the title and be the poster boy but doesn't want any of the consequences when things go wrong.

In my opinion Wasim hasn't gotten enough of the blame for Karachi's dismal showing especially last year. Everyone these days loves to bash Babar but I feel Wasim was the bigger culprit last year with the absolute garbage squad they took in the PSL 7 draft. While other teams went in with great planning, Wasim and co seemed clueless and unprepared and came out with a team that was bound to lose. On paper they are at least slightly better this year.
 
Rana said:
I actually thank [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] for creating this thread because I know this is one thread I’ll be bumping quite regularly
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too bad you never got the change to bump this thread regularly :))

Karachi is a doomed franchise. They were the ones that let go of quality players. Placed blame on Rizwan and Babar and now look at the results
 
Terrible team plus Imads attitude means they are competing with Quetta for the wooden spoon
 
Two more seasons left for KK. If they don’t get their act together, they might have to sell the franchise on discounted rates. It’s been 8 years and if you fail to make use of the name of your largest city as a brand, you are a failed owner.
 
The only psl they won was only because of the situation where they had to shift and host the tournament twice...
 
Very poor squad. Slow batters, slow bowlers and full of slow fielders. They are not even a PSL standard frenchise. Will probably lose 4 out 5 games against worst teams of SLPL or BPL.
 
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