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Is Pahalgam attack another false flag operation to accomplish nefarious designs by Indian regime or a retort for misadventures in Balochistan?

What do you believe to be the true nature of recent attack in Pahalgam?


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There's no evidence of Pakistani government's involvement in the attacks you mentioned.

As for one event done by India, how about recent assassination attempts in US and Canada.

For some reasons, bakhts can't even digest or fathom the idea that India can do terrorism. The possibility doesn't even cross your minds. You guys call Pakistanis brainwashed, but they don't even come close to your level of indoctrination.
Brother may be your forgot about their interventions in Sri Lanka during LTTE and Bangladesh all along...not to forget about their role in Balochistan and Nepal
 
To add to my previous post, if you guys are unable to accept the bloody obvious Indian involvement in terrorism then don't except others to do the same.
There are no Indian or Hindu terror outfits in the world bro. You are unnecessarily getting riled up. Go and check UN banned terrorist list, you will find all your bhai bandhus there. You live in Britain right? Go and ask 10 people on street what they think first when they hear the name Pakistan. This drama was over when OBL was found there hiding 5 miles of military base.

:kp
 
There are no Indian or Hindu terror outfits in the world bro. You are unnecessarily getting riled up. Go and check UN banned terrorist list, you will find all your bhai bandhus there. You live in Britain right? Go and ask 10 people on street what they think first when they hear the name Pakistan. This drama was over when OBL was found there hiding 5 miles of military base.

:kp
Irrelevant. I am strictly talking about state involvement in terrorism.
 
That is silly thing to say na?

American intelligence couldnt stop 9/11 and 16 men hijacking the planes. However they quickly got to know it was Bin Laden and Al Qaeda behind it. Similarly any terrorist attacks in India will obviously due to intelligence failure. Afterall no will deliberately allow terrorists to come and kill its people. But like 9/11, there is no doubt that any terrorist attacks in kashmir and wider India has Pakistani hand behind it. It was Indias intelligence failure for sure...however that does not mean it was not perpetrated from Pakistan.

Also I know the record book for some here stops with BJP and bhakts but Rahul Gandhi, Asaduddin Owaisi etc are not BJP Bhakts. Everyone has blamed Pakistan for it. The fact that those terrorists were not from or funded by Pakistan is not even in anyones mind, BJP supporters, BJP haters doesnt matter. Only in this forum I am hearing Pakistan is not behind Pahalgam attack..lol. Like they were not behind 26/11 or OBL was not hiding there. Comical ali stuff.

The only difference is BJP Bhakts are not blaming Modi for this security lapse and vice versa for opposition. The fact that Pakistan is behind this attack is unanimousy accepted by everyone.
All of Indians saying something doesn't make it proof.

America didn't declare OBL as behind 9/11 while the attack was taking place. You should be sensible before making these statements. This type of propoganda might work with Indians but it won't work amongst educated people on this forum.
 
All of Indians saying something doesn't make it proof.

America didn't declare OBL as behind 9/11 while the attack was taking place. You should be sensible before making these statements. This type of propoganda might work with Indians but it won't work amongst educated people on this forum.
The did. As soon as the second plane hit, everyone was calling out OBL. Fox was saying it as terrorism and Al Qaeda even before 2nd plane. I have seen those tapes multiple times in youtube.
 
The did. As soon as the second plane hit, everyone was calling out OBL. Fox was saying it as terrorism and Al Qaeda even before 2nd plane. I have seen those tapes multiple times in youtube.
Lol so they completed investigation before the second plane hit
 
Hindus in Quetta protest Indian accusations over Pahalgam attack

Members of the Hindu community staged a protest rally in Quetta on Wednesday, condemning what they called baseless allegations against Pakistan by the Indian government regarding the recent terrorist attack in Pahalgam in held Kashmir.

Led by Sanjay Kumar, a PPP minority member of the Balochistan Assembly, the rally included men and women carrying placards and banners with anti-Modi and anti-India slogans.

The protesters marched through various roads and streets of the provincial capital before gathering outside the Quetta Press Club.

Chanting slogans against Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his government, protesters rejected any involvement by Pakistan in the Pahalgam attack.

“The Hindu community in Pakistan stands united with the country’s armed forces. If India dares commit aggression, over 10 million Hindus in Pakistan will stand behind our military,” Sanjay Kumar said while addressing the gathering.

Other speakers, including several women, also condemned the Indian government’s actions and rhetoric. They criticised India’s move to suspend the Indus Waters Treaty, calling it a violation of international agreements.

“India cannot unilaterally suspend the treaty signed in 1960 without the consent of other stakeholders,” protesters said.

The protest ended peacefully after the speeches.

DAWN NEWS
 
Hindus in Quetta protest Indian accusations over Pahalgam attack

Members of the Hindu community staged a protest rally in Quetta on Wednesday, condemning what they called baseless allegations against Pakistan by the Indian government regarding the recent terrorist attack in Pahalgam in held Kashmir.

Led by Sanjay Kumar, a PPP minority member of the Balochistan Assembly, the rally included men and women carrying placards and banners with anti-Modi and anti-India slogans.

The protesters marched through various roads and streets of the provincial capital before gathering outside the Quetta Press Club.

Chanting slogans against Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his government, protesters rejected any involvement by Pakistan in the Pahalgam attack.

“The Hindu community in Pakistan stands united with the country’s armed forces. If India dares commit aggression, over 10 million Hindus in Pakistan will stand behind our military,” Sanjay Kumar said while addressing the gathering.

Other speakers, including several women, also condemned the Indian government’s actions and rhetoric. They criticised India’s move to suspend the Indus Waters Treaty, calling it a violation of international agreements.

“India cannot unilaterally suspend the treaty signed in 1960 without the consent of other stakeholders,” protesters said.

The protest ended peacefully after the speeches.

DAWN NEWS
Lol, the fake news even by Dawn! :ROFLMAO:
The image is not from Quetta and neither are the protestors Hindus.
Hover the cursor over the dawn image, the prompt says " Kohlu: People protesting against Indian threats and suspension of IWT"
Kohlu is 500 kms away from Quetta! :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Tell Dawn to work on their editing bhai!
 

Lol where in the world unearthing truth demoralize the army @Devadwal @Buzzinga fake media too?​

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'Don't Demoralise The Forces': Supreme Court Refuses To Entertain PIL For Judicial Probe Into Pahalgam Terror Attack​


The Supreme Court on Thursday (1 May) refused to entertain a petition seeking a judicial inquiry into the Pahalgam terror attack, warning that such a move could undermine the morale of security forces.

Slamming the petitioners, the apex court stressed that the matter's "sensitivity" should have been considered before approaching the judiciary with such a public interest litigation.

A Bench of Justices Surya Kant and N K Singh cautioned the petitioner, one Fatesh Sahu, not to demoralise the armed forces during such a time, Bar and Bench reported.

"Be responsible before filing such PILs. You have some duty towards your country also. This is the crucial hour when each and every Indian has joined hands to fight terrorism. Don't demoralise the forces. Look at the sensitivity of the issue," SC Justice Surya Kant said, India Today reported.

The petition had called for a judicial commission to investigate the terror attack by Pakistan-based terrorists in Pahalgam, in which 26 people were killed.

The bench asserted that the role of judges is to decide on disputes, not to conduct inquiries.

The petitioner also sought directions to protect Kashmiri students studying in other states.

The petitioner alleged that Kashmiri students were facing backlash and assaults following the Pahalgam terror attack.

"Are you sure about the prayer you are making? First you ask a retired Supreme Court judge to probe. They cannot investigate. Then you ask for guidelines, compensation, then directions to press council. You force us to read all these things at night, and now you speak for students," the Apex Court said.

The Supreme Court permitted the withdrawal of the plea and asked the petitioner to approach the appropriate High Court regarding the concerns of Kashmiri students.

Source: Swarajya
 
That is silly thing to say na?

American intelligence couldnt stop 9/11 and 16 men hijacking the planes. However they quickly got to know it was Bin Laden and Al Qaeda behind it. Similarly any terrorist attacks in India will obviously due to intelligence failure. Afterall no will deliberately allow terrorists to come and kill its people. But like 9/11, there is no doubt that any terrorist attacks in kashmir and wider India has Pakistani hand behind it. It was Indias intelligence failure for sure...however that does not mean it was not perpetrated from Pakistan.

Also I know the record book for some here stops with BJP and bhakts but Rahul Gandhi, Asaduddin Owaisi etc are not BJP Bhakts. Everyone has blamed Pakistan for it. The fact that those terrorists were not from or funded by Pakistan is not even in anyones mind, BJP supporters, BJP haters doesnt matter. Only in this forum I am hearing Pakistan is not behind Pahalgam attack..lol. Like they were not behind 26/11 or OBL was not hiding there. Comical ali stuff.

The only difference is BJP Bhakts are not blaming Modi for this security lapse and vice versa for opposition. The fact that Pakistan is behind this attack is unanimousy accepted by everyone.

So your argument is that Americans accused without proof so why can't India?

To be honest bro if it's given practice that Indians already know that Pakistan is behind every terror attack then you can make these announcements before they even happen, why wait until 10 mins later to produce detailed reports?
 
So your argument is that Americans accused without proof so why can't India?

To be honest bro if it's given practice that Indians already know that Pakistan is behind every terror attack then you can make these announcements before they even happen, why wait until 10 mins later to produce detailed reports?
Correction bro, 5 minutes
 

Lol where in the world unearthing truth demoralize the army @Devadwal @Buzzinga fake media too?​

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'Don't Demoralise The Forces': Supreme Court Refuses To Entertain PIL For Judicial Probe Into Pahalgam Terror Attack​


The Supreme Court on Thursday (1 May) refused to entertain a petition seeking a judicial inquiry into the Pahalgam terror attack, warning that such a move could undermine the morale of security forces.

Slamming the petitioners, the apex court stressed that the matter's "sensitivity" should have been considered before approaching the judiciary with such a public interest litigation.

A Bench of Justices Surya Kant and N K Singh cautioned the petitioner, one Fatesh Sahu, not to demoralise the armed forces during such a time, Bar and Bench reported.

"Be responsible before filing such PILs. You have some duty towards your country also. This is the crucial hour when each and every Indian has joined hands to fight terrorism. Don't demoralise the forces. Look at the sensitivity of the issue," SC Justice Surya Kant said, India Today reported.

The petition had called for a judicial commission to investigate the terror attack by Pakistan-based terrorists in Pahalgam, in which 26 people were killed.

The bench asserted that the role of judges is to decide on disputes, not to conduct inquiries.

The petitioner also sought directions to protect Kashmiri students studying in other states.

The petitioner alleged that Kashmiri students were facing backlash and assaults following the Pahalgam terror attack.

"Are you sure about the prayer you are making? First you ask a retired Supreme Court judge to probe. They cannot investigate. Then you ask for guidelines, compensation, then directions to press council. You force us to read all these things at night, and now you speak for students," the Apex Court said.

The Supreme Court permitted the withdrawal of the plea and asked the petitioner to approach the appropriate High Court regarding the concerns of Kashmiri students.

Source: Swarajya
SC shut the mouth of these idiots .good Job 👍 :kp
 
So your argument is that Americans accused without proof so why can't India?

To be honest bro if it's given practice that Indians already know that Pakistan is behind every terror attack then you can make these announcements before they even happen, why wait until 10 mins later to produce detailed reports?

No. The arguement is, it is silly to say if intelligence failed to stop a terrorist attack, one cant predict the perpetrators. Like in 9/11 it was clear as hell that OBL/AQ was responsible, there is no doubt who is behind attacks in Kashmir. Anyone denying it is living with a blindfold on.
 
I50 cr m kuch idiots to milte hi hai , just like Pehalgam Terrorist attacks where few local help the terrorist. Logic to use kiya karo kabhi. :kp
My friend you have truck loads of wisdom so please tell me why not brand Pakistan after a judicial probe....after all the world doesn't listen to accusations cum investigation within 5 minutes :kp
 
My friend you have truck loads of wisdom so please tell me why not brand Pakistan after a judicial probe....after all the world doesn't listen to accusations cum investigation within 5 minutes :kp
What was the result of mumbai and Pathankot Judicial probe ? :kp
 
Read the Pahalgam thread bro. Within 5 minutes I have said Italians were behind it as Pakistan is never known for any terrorism.

:kp
I appreciate you buddy but everybody is not sane like you 👍
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The Indian media habitually started blaming Pakistan within five minutes after the Pahalgam attack. According to the Hindustan Times, the attack occurred at 3:00 pm while the social media accounts linked to the Indian intelligence agency RAW posted a message at 3:05 pm accusing Pakistan of attack.

 
I appreciate you buddy but everybody is not sane like you 👍
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The Indian media habitually started blaming Pakistan within five minutes after the Pahalgam attack. According to the Hindustan Times, the attack occurred at 3:00 pm while the social media accounts linked to the Indian intelligence agency RAW posted a message at 3:05 pm accusing Pakistan of attack.


Why should they wait for something so apparent?

:kp
 
What was the result of mumbai and Pathankot Judicial probe ? :kp

As far as I recall, Pakistan government did proper coordination and intelligence sharing with their indian counterparts in wake of these incidents....Did India ever showed such magnanimity with Pakistan on turmoil and attacks in Balochistan?
 
Lol what about Israel crimes against Palestine then, ,🤔

In what context you are asking? What has Israel responding to Hamas's terrorist attacks on oct 7th is related to this attack in Kashmir?

Bhai kehna kya chahte ho?

:kp
 

As far as I recall, Pakistan government did proper coordination and intelligence sharing with their indian counterparts in wake of these incidents....Did India ever showed such magnanimity with Pakistan on turmoil anwhad attacks in Balochistan?
This is exactly what they will say same so no point of prob with Pakistan.

What about mumbai attacks which was accepted by Pakistan PM

:kp
 
In what context you are asking? What has Israel responding to Hamas's terrorist attacks on oct 7th is related to this attack in Kashmir?

Bhai kehna kya chahte ho?

:kp
Are Israel not behind genocide of Palestinians?? @Rajdeep I appreciate your flair of issuing verdicts on apparent facts 👍
 
This is exactly what they will say same so no point of prob with Pakistan.

What about mumbai attacks which was accepted by Pakistan PM

:kp
Expose them in UN, FATF....you have friends there...I hope they won't be as biased as Pakistan to ignore such cogent piece of evidences
 
No. The arguement is, it is silly to say if intelligence failed to stop a terrorist attack, one cant predict the perpetrators. Like in 9/11 it was clear as hell that OBL/AQ was responsible, there is no doubt who is behind attacks in Kashmir. Anyone denying it is living with a blindfold on.

This is what I am saying. You don't need to provide any proof since you already know who is behind every terror attack even before it has happened. It is like the Spielberg movie Minority Report. You should just have declared war a month before the terror attacks and that way innocent people wouldn't have lost their lives.

"Just look at America, our heroes and role models Saar ji!!" :love::love::love::love:
 
Expose them in UN, FATF....you have friends there...I hope they won't be as biased as Pakistan to ignore such cogent piece of evidences
They are useless otherwise UN banned Terrorists would have not roaming freely in some countries. :kp
 
Are Israel not behind genocide of Palestinians?? @Rajdeep I appreciate your flair of issuing verdicts on apparent facts 👍
Brother, the killing of even one innocent person is wrong. I think you may have missed my earlier posts, but I have always criticized Israel for its killing of innocent Palestinians. I believe most, if not all, Indian posters here share the same view. There's a misconception that Indians support what Israel is doing, but that's not accurate.

You might say that you've seen comments from Indians on social media celebrating the violence. But that's just social media. I can show you hundreds of tweets or posts where Pakistanis are celebrating the deaths of victims in Pahalgam. Still, those are exceptions, not the norm.

Israel is a friendly country to India, and since we have no direct stake in this conflict, our government tends to stay neutral—just as it has in the Russia-Ukraine war.
 
Brother, the killing of even one innocent person is wrong. I think you may have missed my earlier posts, but I have always criticized Israel for its killing of innocent Palestinians. I believe most, if not all, Indian posters here share the same view. There's a misconception that Indians support what Israel is doing, but that's not accurate.

You might say that you've seen comments from Indians on social media celebrating the violence. But that's just social media. I can show you hundreds of tweets or posts where Pakistanis are celebrating the deaths of victims in Pahalgam. Still, those are exceptions, not the norm.

Israel is a friendly country to India, and since we have no direct stake in this conflict, our government tends to stay neutral—just as it has in the Russia-Ukraine war.

Stopped reading right there.
 
Interesting how the same Indians who were proudly cheering for “the Chosen Ones” when bombs were falling seem to be quietly shifting their stance now. Conscience doesn’t kick in until the applause dies down, does it?
 
gives speech on religious segregation. Then conducts terrorism and killing Hindus after religious segregation. And then beg infront of the world to stop India.amazing foresight.

:kp
 
Interesting how the same Indians who were proudly cheering for “the Chosen Ones” when bombs were falling seem to be quietly shifting their stance now. Conscience doesn’t kick in until the applause dies down, does it?

I hadn't realised they were shifting their stance, haven't visited the Palestine threads in a while. Maybe too many western opinion pieces have shifted stance and the Indians don't want to be left isolated.
 
@The Bald Eagle
Whatever celebration you may have seen online stems more from hatred towards Muslims in general, not necessarily from a specific stance on Palestine. As I said, many Muslims from Pakistan have celebrated the recent terrorist attack in Kashmir as well. In fact, your COAS Munir made an open statement about Hindus just a day before the attacks. Your former cricketer even said on live TV that offering namaz among Hindus was the best thing—that shows it works both ways.

After this terrorist attack in Pahalgam this hatred will only increase. Islamic terrorists specifically asked for victims’ religion and deliberately targeting Hindus, it’s natural that such actions won't sit well with the Hindu community. So when they see Muslims suffering in return, some of them rejoice. I'm not saying this is the right reaction, but hopefully you can understand where they are coming from.
 
@The Bald Eagle
Whatever celebration you may have seen online stems more from hatred towards Muslims in general, not necessarily from a specific stance on Palestine. As I said, many Muslims from Pakistan have celebrated the recent terrorist attack in Kashmir as well. In fact, your COAS Munir made an open statement about Hindus just a day before the attacks. Your former cricketer even said on live TV that offering namaz among Hindus was the best thing—that shows it works both ways.

After this terrorist attack in Pahalgam this hatred will only increase. Islamic terrorists specifically asked for victims’ religion and deliberately targeting Hindus, it’s natural that such actions won't sit well with the Hindu community. So when they see Muslims suffering in return, some of them rejoice. I'm not saying this is the right reaction, but hopefully you can understand where they are coming from.
I agree with most of what you said, but here on PP, some ppl were enjoying the hijacking episode in Balochistan...atleast my friend..Pak posters did show some grace in wake of Pahalgam attack. Condemned it instantly without enjoying the tragedy.
 
After this terrorist attack in Pahalgam this hatred will only increase. Islamic terrorists specifically asked for victims’ religion and deliberately targeting Hindus, it’s natural that such actions won't sit well with the Hindu community. So when they see Muslims suffering in return, some of them rejoice. I'm not saying this is the right reaction, but hopefully you can understand where they are coming from.
Will you make the same excuse for Kashmiris who after being subjected to human rights violations according to major human rights organisations decided to pull the pants down on some Hindus and shoot them in the head?

Only a sick person can rejoice at the deaths of others as "revenge". Shame on anyone who tries to play this cop out actions to justify their support for violence.
 
Every community has its outliers, individuals who proudly show their worst side. The difference is, India didn’t just tolerate such a man, it elected him, not once, but repeatedly, despite his global infamy.

No Pakistani on this forum celebrated the recent tragedy, in fact, most condemned it outright. What you’re mistaking as celebration is Pakistanis mocking the Indian government’s confused and performative response.

When Indians mock a Pakistani general, Pakistanis often join in. That’s the difference, self awareness versus blind loyalty. It’s not just about how we think, it’s about whether we think.
 
Will you make the same excuse for Kashmiris who after being subjected to human rights violations according to major human rights organisations decided to pull the pants down on some Hindus and shoot them in the head?

Only a sick person can rejoice at the deaths of others as "revenge". Shame on anyone who tries to play this cop out actions to justify their support for violence.
Not sure about human right violations in Kashmir and how you got to know about it sitting in UK. Maybe some local Kashmiri posters can shed more light about it. But Indian govt has taken every possible step to make development and progress in that state. That is why you will see local Kashmiris are equally angry on this attack like rest of India.

The thing is, Kashmir valley is a highly militarized zone because their youth picks up arms against Indian army. These youths are fully backed and funded by Pakistani ISI. Any country will try to protect its land from such insurgency. One thing is sure, India will not let go its land. If anyone doesn't feel like staying in those so called human right violated area, they are free to leave.

Agreed on the rest of your post - anyone rejoicing deaths of another human being is sick.
 
Not sure about human right violations in Kashmir and how you got to know about it sitting in UK. Maybe some local Kashmiri posters can shed more light about it. But Indian govt has taken every possible step to make development and progress in that state. That is why you will see local Kashmiris are equally angry on this attack like rest of India.

The thing is, Kashmir valley is a highly militarized zone because their youth picks up arms against Indian army. These youths are fully backed and funded by Pakistani ISI. Any country will try to protect its land from such insurgency. One thing is sure, India will not let go its land. If anyone doesn't feel like staying in those so called human right violated area, they are free to leave.

Agreed on the rest of your post - anyone rejoicing deaths of another human being is sick.
Acha now you are unsure. On other topics you are an expert but on Kashmir violations you become a mute pupo :ROFLMAO:

Says it all.
 
Indians question intelligence failure after Pahalgam attack

The Indian people and government officials have started raising questions about the intelligence failure in the Pahalgam attack.

Indian journalist Rahul Pandita remarked that the Pahalgam attack shows a clear failure somewhere within the Indian Army’s intelligence system.

Former government official Radha Kumar said that despite an alert being issued, the CRPF post was removed.

Retired Colonel Ajay Shukla claimed that the false claims of having ended terrorism have cost many innocent lives.
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Source: Radio Pakistan
 

@Devadwal are Pakistani agents now running Telegram accounts in India too?​

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Telegram leaked document exposes RAW’s role in Pahalgam false flag Op: Sources​


A classified document allegedly exposing India’s Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) as the mastermind behind a false flag operation in Pahalgam has surfaced on social media, raising serious concerns over the credibility of New Delhi's narrative around the recent attack.

According to security sources, the document, leaked via the encrypted messaging platform Telegram, provides compelling evidence of the Indian government’s involvement in orchestrating the Pahalgam incident. The revelations have brought into question the legitimacy of India's counter-terrorism claims and point to a deliberate attempt to malign Pakistan.

Sources said the document reveals detailed instructions, timelines, and inconsistencies that ultimately caused the false flag narrative to unravel. One directive, for instance, allegedly instructed Indian media outlets to blame Pakistan and the ISI 36 hours after the attack—a timeline that was reportedly botched when the media prematurely aired accusations, derailing the carefully planned narrative.

The document also suggests that RAW may itself be receiving covert instructions, hinting at internal divisions within the Indian intelligence community. The leak, security officials claim, may be the result of dissent from within RAW, particularly from those opposed to the Hindutva agenda.

Among the shocking revelations, the document reportedly includes the following:

RAW operatives were to activate media assets 36–48 hours before the attack near the target location.

The operation was timed to coincide with the diplomatic visit of U.S. Vice President JD Vance, aiming to evoke international sympathy and support.

The narrative was to depict the attack as targeting both the state and non-Muslim civilians, in order to broaden its global impact.

RAW planned to fabricate blurry videos, stage witness testimonies using AI, and use over 200 social media accounts to amplify disinformation.

A parallel media campaign would steer global discourse away from Kashmir and toward supposed wider "Islamic conspiracies."

Alleged ISI documents would be “forensically leaked” by Indian Northern Command to establish false links.

A backup system in Shopian was activated in case the plan was compromised.

RAW also anticipated a limited military escalation near the Line of Control (LoC), but was instructed not to exceed 1.2 kilometers to avoid inviting UN or Chinese mediation.

Furthermore, the leaked files mention potential BLA and BNA activity in Balochistan as part of broader regional destabilization efforts and propose operational time windows ranging from 3 to 48 hours following the Kashmir attack.

Indian authorities are reportedly probing the document leak, which security experts describe as a serious blow to the credibility of India’s intelligence operations. The explosive revelations, if authenticated, could significantly damage India’s global standing and deepen suspicions of state-sponsored disinformation campaigns.

A fresh set of leaked documents attributed to India's Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) has unveiled a meticulously planned alternative strategy in the event of the Pahalgam operation being exposed. According to security sources, the documents underscore a broader intelligence framework designed to manipulate regional narratives, incite tensions, and justify internal and cross-border actions.

The documents point to the activation of a backup system in Shopian, which was to be deployed immediately if the primary plan was compromised. Furthermore, RAW assessed that a rapid advance by Pakistani forces along the Line of Control (LoC) could challenge India’s control, specifically warning that a 1.3 km violation might prompt UN or Chinese mediation.

In response, Indian forces were instructed to limit their movements to 1.2 km, as outlined in the classified notes, to avoid triggering international arbitration. RAW also acknowledged the likelihood of neutral countries applying pressure in response to any such escalation.

One segment of the leaked document refers to the activation of code INDOPACOM, suggesting that a contingency corridor labeled “TANGO-ECHO” was to remain operational for maneuvering purposes. The blueprint also anticipates potential fallout in Balochistan, with a risk of divergence between banned groups BLA and BNA due to the manipulation of regional dynamics.

Other key takeaways from the leaked RAW dossier include:

Time windows between 3 to 48 hours post-attack were earmarked for possible retaliatory or diversionary actions.

BLA cells under codename T-48 were tasked with initiating operations in Sui and Quetta.

The killing of Hindus was to be kept limited to select unofficial platforms to control the narrative.

Undercover “Denters Squads” were to be deployed in the Anantnag and Kandarbal corridors.

Surveillance was to be intensified on China’s economic interests, especially CPEC and Gwadar, during early operational phases.

Final decisions would be based on R&AW strategic points, and if no hurdles arose by April 21, 2025, the final command would be transmitted through an analog channel.

Following the operation, all field operatives were instructed to adopt black status, indicating deep-cover or off-grid protocol.

Defense analysts, reacting to the revelations, have called the Pahalgam attack a premeditated and state-approved false flag operation. They assert that the leaked document clearly exposes India’s deep-seated hostility toward Kashmiris, and reveals a disturbing pattern of using innocent civilians for political objectives.

“This leak confirms that the Pahalgam incident, like previous attacks, was orchestrated under a false narrative,” said a senior defense expert. “The Modi government has consistently relied on such strategies to stoke nationalism and suppress dissent in Kashmir.”

As calls for an international investigation grow, the Indian government has yet to issue a formal response regarding the authenticity or implications of the leaked documents.

 
Historically, the activities were restricted to Kashmir valley but for the past few years the attacks in Jammu have been increasingly alarmingly and Al-Jazeera (Aug 1, 2024) did a profile on this piece. The attack in Pahalgam couldn't have happened without the access from Kathra, Udhampur, Dodha etc (in Jammu) which have been seeing an increased casualty rate from Indian Army and experts have been warning about this.

Pahalgam cannot be access from Dras/Kargil/Batalik sector (due to harsh winter conditions). It couldn't have happened from LOC (Kupwara, Baramullah, Srinagar) and if did happen then it is intelligence failure and sever incompetence of 500,000+ combined Indian military and paramilitary forces. If Terrorists from Pakistan crossed Kupwara or Baramulla and then reached Pahalgam, Indians should hang their heads in shame because this isn't the harsh vast terrain of Baluchistan.

Either way Indians have a major problem to handle and I am sure sane Indians are looking at this:
  1. In the event "Terrorists from Pakistan" crossed into the valley across LOC then it is a major concern
  2. If this is planned and executed from Jammu then the insurgency is spreading.

I can only guess that either this is a false flag OR TRF are operation while based in Jammu. The first possibility is an opportunity for India (to blame Pakistan and continue with various dam projects etc) and the second is a difficult scenario because unlike the (Kashmir) valley, Jammu has always been relatively calm and also has Hindu majority are very Pro-India so somehow TRF has been able to blend into Jammu's Hindu majority belt and then attack.

TRF founder and the current chief are from Kulgam district so their links in Jammu (instead of Kashmir) make sense so IF TRF are a legit organisation then India has got serious issues and vacationing etc in the valley is over!


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Newslanudry Analysis

Pretty much what I said in this post and first Indian Media Channel which is specifically talking about the "insurgency" shifting to Jammu (instead of Kashmir).


Good job by Manisha Pande and as I said "Pakistan backed" or not, India has a serious problem due to threat moving into Jammu!
 

@Devadwal are Pakistani agents now running Telegram accounts in India too?​

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Telegram leaked document exposes RAW’s role in Pahalgam false flag Op: Sources​


A classified document allegedly exposing India’s Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) as the mastermind behind a false flag operation in Pahalgam has surfaced on social media, raising serious concerns over the credibility of New Delhi's narrative around the recent attack.

According to security sources, the document, leaked via the encrypted messaging platform Telegram, provides compelling evidence of the Indian government’s involvement in orchestrating the Pahalgam incident. The revelations have brought into question the legitimacy of India's counter-terrorism claims and point to a deliberate attempt to malign Pakistan.

Sources said the document reveals detailed instructions, timelines, and inconsistencies that ultimately caused the false flag narrative to unravel. One directive, for instance, allegedly instructed Indian media outlets to blame Pakistan and the ISI 36 hours after the attack—a timeline that was reportedly botched when the media prematurely aired accusations, derailing the carefully planned narrative.

The document also suggests that RAW may itself be receiving covert instructions, hinting at internal divisions within the Indian intelligence community. The leak, security officials claim, may be the result of dissent from within RAW, particularly from those opposed to the Hindutva agenda.

Among the shocking revelations, the document reportedly includes the following:

RAW operatives were to activate media assets 36–48 hours before the attack near the target location.

The operation was timed to coincide with the diplomatic visit of U.S. Vice President JD Vance, aiming to evoke international sympathy and support.

The narrative was to depict the attack as targeting both the state and non-Muslim civilians, in order to broaden its global impact.

RAW planned to fabricate blurry videos, stage witness testimonies using AI, and use over 200 social media accounts to amplify disinformation.

A parallel media campaign would steer global discourse away from Kashmir and toward supposed wider "Islamic conspiracies."

Alleged ISI documents would be “forensically leaked” by Indian Northern Command to establish false links.

A backup system in Shopian was activated in case the plan was compromised.

RAW also anticipated a limited military escalation near the Line of Control (LoC), but was instructed not to exceed 1.2 kilometers to avoid inviting UN or Chinese mediation.

Furthermore, the leaked files mention potential BLA and BNA activity in Balochistan as part of broader regional destabilization efforts and propose operational time windows ranging from 3 to 48 hours following the Kashmir attack.

Indian authorities are reportedly probing the document leak, which security experts describe as a serious blow to the credibility of India’s intelligence operations. The explosive revelations, if authenticated, could significantly damage India’s global standing and deepen suspicions of state-sponsored disinformation campaigns.

A fresh set of leaked documents attributed to India's Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) has unveiled a meticulously planned alternative strategy in the event of the Pahalgam operation being exposed. According to security sources, the documents underscore a broader intelligence framework designed to manipulate regional narratives, incite tensions, and justify internal and cross-border actions.

The documents point to the activation of a backup system in Shopian, which was to be deployed immediately if the primary plan was compromised. Furthermore, RAW assessed that a rapid advance by Pakistani forces along the Line of Control (LoC) could challenge India’s control, specifically warning that a 1.3 km violation might prompt UN or Chinese mediation.

In response, Indian forces were instructed to limit their movements to 1.2 km, as outlined in the classified notes, to avoid triggering international arbitration. RAW also acknowledged the likelihood of neutral countries applying pressure in response to any such escalation.

One segment of the leaked document refers to the activation of code INDOPACOM, suggesting that a contingency corridor labeled “TANGO-ECHO” was to remain operational for maneuvering purposes. The blueprint also anticipates potential fallout in Balochistan, with a risk of divergence between banned groups BLA and BNA due to the manipulation of regional dynamics.

Other key takeaways from the leaked RAW dossier include:

Time windows between 3 to 48 hours post-attack were earmarked for possible retaliatory or diversionary actions.

BLA cells under codename T-48 were tasked with initiating operations in Sui and Quetta.

The killing of Hindus was to be kept limited to select unofficial platforms to control the narrative.

Undercover “Denters Squads” were to be deployed in the Anantnag and Kandarbal corridors.

Surveillance was to be intensified on China’s economic interests, especially CPEC and Gwadar, during early operational phases.

Final decisions would be based on R&AW strategic points, and if no hurdles arose by April 21, 2025, the final command would be transmitted through an analog channel.

Following the operation, all field operatives were instructed to adopt black status, indicating deep-cover or off-grid protocol.

Defense analysts, reacting to the revelations, have called the Pahalgam attack a premeditated and state-approved false flag operation. They assert that the leaked document clearly exposes India’s deep-seated hostility toward Kashmiris, and reveals a disturbing pattern of using innocent civilians for political objectives.

“This leak confirms that the Pahalgam incident, like previous attacks, was orchestrated under a false narrative,” said a senior defense expert. “The Modi government has consistently relied on such strategies to stoke nationalism and suppress dissent in Kashmir.”

As calls for an international investigation grow, the Indian government has yet to issue a formal response regarding the authenticity or implications of the leaked documents.

@The Bald Eagle Bro Me and @Devadwal have been exposing all your sama tv and dawn propoganda, then you leave that discussion, bring a new conspiracy. Don't you think its becoming tiresome now.
Bro is posting the fake news again and again from Pakistan fake News factory. I already exposed all the fake news.

Man so many fake news spread by Pakistan in this conflicts .
:kp
 
Regardless of what actually happened, the lack of buy-in from the international community over India's narrative should be very worrying for India. No one is willing to unequivocally back the Indian official narrative, which means international intelligence communities likely don't believe it totally.
 
Regardless of what actually happened, the lack of buy-in from the international community over India's narrative should be very worrying for India. No one is willing to unequivocally back the Indian official narrative, which means international intelligence communities likely don't believe it totally.

I think everyone knows India propagates fake news a lot. :inti

India has been declared as the highest risk for misinformation and disinformation --> https://news.umich.edu/india-ranks-as-highest-risk-for-misinformation-u-m-experts-can-comment/.
 
India bans imports from Pakistan amid tension over tourist killings

In response to growing tensions with Pakistan, the Indian government has completely banned all imports and transit of goods coming directly or indirectly from Pakistan. This includes all types of goods, whether they are usually allowed for import or not.

The decision comes amid escalating tensions between the two nations over the Pahalgam terror attack that killed 26 people.

Similarly, New Delhi also suspended the exchange of all categories of mail and parcels from Pakistan through air and surface routes. The order suspending the services was issued by the Department of Posts that operates under the Ministry of Communication.

The decision to ban imports and transit of goods was made official through a new rule added to the Foreign Trade Policy (FTP) 2023. The ban takes effect immediately and will stay in place until the government decides otherwise. The government said the move is necessary for national security and public interest. If any exceptions are needed, they will require special approval from the Indian government.

Although the ban sounds major, trade between India and Pakistan is already very limited. In the current financial year (FY25), India has imported goods worth less than $0.5 million from Pakistan, while exports to Pakistan were around $500 million.

India had already made Pakistani imports expensive by adding a 200% tariff after the Pulwama attack in 2019, which brought imports down to just $0.42 million between April 2024 and January 2025.

Most of the recent imports were small items like figs, herbs such as basil and rosemary, and Himalayan pink salt.

Trade expert Ajay Srivastava from the Global Trade Research Initiative (GTRI) said the ban is more symbolic, as India does not rely on Pakistani products. However, he added that Pakistan might still need Indian goods and could continue to get them through third countries using legal or informal channels.

This trade ban follows a deadly attack in Pahalgam on Indian tourists. In response, both countries have also shut their airspace to each other’s airlines, further escalating the situation as India, without solid proof, blames Pakistan.

In the aftermath of the April 22 terror attack in Jammu and Kashmir’s Pahalgam—which claimed the lives of at least 26 civilians, including a Nepalese tourist and a local pony guide—India has taken a series of decisive actions after baselessly blaming Pakistan for the attack.

Citing "sustained cross-border terrorism," India suspended the Indus Waters Treaty, the 1960 water-sharing pact with Pakistan, paving the way to potentially divert or restrict the flow of Indus River waters into Pakistan — a move that could disrupt water access for millions.

In addition, India cancelled all visas issued to Pakistani nationals and ordered those residing in the country to leave, including individuals holding medical visas.

Pakistan, in turn, responded with threats to suspend all bilateral agreements with India, including the Simla Agreement. Diplomatic ties between the two nations have since been downgraded, with backchannel dialogue cut off amid rising hostilities.

India has also issued an official NOTAM (Notice to Airmen) barring access to its airspace for all aircraft linked to Pakistan.

The restriction applies to Pakistani-registered, operated, or leased aircraft, including both commercial and military flights. The ban will be in place till the early morning of May 24, as per the current NOTAM.

Source: https://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/2025/May/03/india-bans-direct-indirect-imports-from-pakistan
 

@Devadwal are Pakistani agents now running Telegram accounts in India too?​

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Telegram leaked document exposes RAW’s role in Pahalgam false flag Op: Sources​


A classified document allegedly exposing India’s Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) as the mastermind behind a false flag operation in Pahalgam has surfaced on social media, raising serious concerns over the credibility of New Delhi's narrative around the recent attack.

According to security sources, the document, leaked via the encrypted messaging platform Telegram, provides compelling evidence of the Indian government’s involvement in orchestrating the Pahalgam incident. The revelations have brought into question the legitimacy of India's counter-terrorism claims and point to a deliberate attempt to malign Pakistan.

Sources said the document reveals detailed instructions, timelines, and inconsistencies that ultimately caused the false flag narrative to unravel. One directive, for instance, allegedly instructed Indian media outlets to blame Pakistan and the ISI 36 hours after the attack—a timeline that was reportedly botched when the media prematurely aired accusations, derailing the carefully planned narrative.

The document also suggests that RAW may itself be receiving covert instructions, hinting at internal divisions within the Indian intelligence community. The leak, security officials claim, may be the result of dissent from within RAW, particularly from those opposed to the Hindutva agenda.

Among the shocking revelations, the document reportedly includes the following:

RAW operatives were to activate media assets 36–48 hours before the attack near the target location.

The operation was timed to coincide with the diplomatic visit of U.S. Vice President JD Vance, aiming to evoke international sympathy and support.

The narrative was to depict the attack as targeting both the state and non-Muslim civilians, in order to broaden its global impact.

RAW planned to fabricate blurry videos, stage witness testimonies using AI, and use over 200 social media accounts to amplify disinformation.

A parallel media campaign would steer global discourse away from Kashmir and toward supposed wider "Islamic conspiracies."

Alleged ISI documents would be “forensically leaked” by Indian Northern Command to establish false links.

A backup system in Shopian was activated in case the plan was compromised.

RAW also anticipated a limited military escalation near the Line of Control (LoC), but was instructed not to exceed 1.2 kilometers to avoid inviting UN or Chinese mediation.

Furthermore, the leaked files mention potential BLA and BNA activity in Balochistan as part of broader regional destabilization efforts and propose operational time windows ranging from 3 to 48 hours following the Kashmir attack.

Indian authorities are reportedly probing the document leak, which security experts describe as a serious blow to the credibility of India’s intelligence operations. The explosive revelations, if authenticated, could significantly damage India’s global standing and deepen suspicions of state-sponsored disinformation campaigns.

A fresh set of leaked documents attributed to India's Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) has unveiled a meticulously planned alternative strategy in the event of the Pahalgam operation being exposed. According to security sources, the documents underscore a broader intelligence framework designed to manipulate regional narratives, incite tensions, and justify internal and cross-border actions.

The documents point to the activation of a backup system in Shopian, which was to be deployed immediately if the primary plan was compromised. Furthermore, RAW assessed that a rapid advance by Pakistani forces along the Line of Control (LoC) could challenge India’s control, specifically warning that a 1.3 km violation might prompt UN or Chinese mediation.

In response, Indian forces were instructed to limit their movements to 1.2 km, as outlined in the classified notes, to avoid triggering international arbitration. RAW also acknowledged the likelihood of neutral countries applying pressure in response to any such escalation.

One segment of the leaked document refers to the activation of code INDOPACOM, suggesting that a contingency corridor labeled “TANGO-ECHO” was to remain operational for maneuvering purposes. The blueprint also anticipates potential fallout in Balochistan, with a risk of divergence between banned groups BLA and BNA due to the manipulation of regional dynamics.

Other key takeaways from the leaked RAW dossier include:

Time windows between 3 to 48 hours post-attack were earmarked for possible retaliatory or diversionary actions.

BLA cells under codename T-48 were tasked with initiating operations in Sui and Quetta.

The killing of Hindus was to be kept limited to select unofficial platforms to control the narrative.

Undercover “Denters Squads” were to be deployed in the Anantnag and Kandarbal corridors.

Surveillance was to be intensified on China’s economic interests, especially CPEC and Gwadar, during early operational phases.

Final decisions would be based on R&AW strategic points, and if no hurdles arose by April 21, 2025, the final command would be transmitted through an analog channel.

Following the operation, all field operatives were instructed to adopt black status, indicating deep-cover or off-grid protocol.

Defense analysts, reacting to the revelations, have called the Pahalgam attack a premeditated and state-approved false flag operation. They assert that the leaked document clearly exposes India’s deep-seated hostility toward Kashmiris, and reveals a disturbing pattern of using innocent civilians for political objectives.

“This leak confirms that the Pahalgam incident, like previous attacks, was orchestrated under a false narrative,” said a senior defense expert. “The Modi government has consistently relied on such strategies to stoke nationalism and suppress dissent in Kashmir.”

As calls for an international investigation grow, the Indian government has yet to issue a formal response regarding the authenticity or implications of the leaked documents.



If only Indians could put as much effort into town planning and sewage management as they do into AI and computer nerdery, Dehli would look like Manhattan by now.
 
@The Bald Eagle ISPR few days ago released the some screenshots about BLA and India connection .

I already exposed this

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Chat ends at 3:07 AM.
Screenshot taken at 3:08 AM

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Two people are talking, both complicit but one takes a screenshot, right at that moment. Usually agencies would find the chat record much later and take screenshots. This clearly shows it’s fabricated 🤣🤣

:kp
 
@The Bald Eagle ISPR few days ago released the some screenshots about BLA and India connection .

I already exposed this

View attachment 154186


Chat ends at 3:07 AM.
Screenshot taken at 3:08 AM

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Two people are talking, both complicit but one takes a screenshot, right at that moment. Usually agencies would find the chat record much later and take screenshots. This clearly shows it’s fabricated 🤣🤣

:kp
May be found in his phone. Although I highly recommend to see above video with VPN.
 
On April 29, Pakistan’s DG ISPR unleashed series of allegations- accusing India of sponsoring terrorism on its soil. In a conference cum presentation producing "digital forensic evidence"

Here’s how their propaganda collapsed under scrutiny:

They claimed to have “forensically” analyzed a terrorist’s phone, a WhatsApp chat between a handler and apprehended terrorist precisely. The screenshots presented by DG ISPR are not insult to any forensic analysis by any standards.

Next day on April 30, in a joint briefing by DG ISPR, Dy PM, Fgn Minstr. reemphasised on the "nexus" network of Indian sponsored terrorist.

Such a delegation. High stakes. And check this out, evidences, one by one-

To start with, the screenshots showed the handler Shanknder2 is "online". Can you believe this?The phone was supposedly seized and under forensic exam. Real forensics don’t run on LIVE PHONES!

The phone under investigation must have been in airplane mode or isolated from all networks
to preserve data integrity
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Then there is a WhatsApp call recording from over an year ago. Amazing!

Impossibility unless:
1. The terrorist himself installed some sw to record
2. ISI planted spyware since beginning means they knew in advance about terror
attacks and chose not to prevent them .

This is how Pakistan spread the fake news and propaganda .

:kp
 
Pakistan ISPR is full of propaganda and fake news. No need to watch them :kp
Lol don't leave us high and dry now...expose them more with the gaffes in above video....otherwise we would have no reason but to believe in what they asserted.
 
Lol don't leave us high and dry now...expose them more with the gaffes in above video....otherwise we would have no reason but to believe in what they asserted.
Lol don't leave us high and dry now...expose them more with the gaffes in above video....otherwise we would have no reason but to believe in what they asserted.
I already exposed the ISPR propaganda in post #459 and #461.

They need to hire some professional otherwise a 15 year old can exposed the ISPR. .

:kp
 
Pakistan ISPR is full of propaganda and fake news. No need to watch them :kp

You didnt want to watch palki Sharmas news report. She stated Indian troops are chasing the suspects in Woodlands and have exchanged fire 4 times . Do you believe this ? Yes or no ?

Another piece pointing towards false flag .
 
You didnt want to watch palki Sharmas news report. She stated Indian troops are chasing the suspects in Woodlands and have exchanged fire 4 times . Do you believe this ? Yes or no ?

Another piece pointing towards false flag .
Yes sarrrr everything is false flag for Pakistani :kp
 
Lol another "surgical strike" coming...I hope we get it to see it live this once....rather than wait for some Bollywood movie on it.
 
There are dozens fake news circulating in this conflict from both sides.

Pakistan media and new channels reality -

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:kp
So you accept india has been making up lies.

it is india who gave the world this Bollywood story of this attack. Get your own people killed and do it badly too.

Still.ducking the question of these suspects firing at indian troops? Are you ashamed or do you think it's a lie ?
 
I've tried to watch some of their news for a balanced take but after a few mins its torture.

You have palki Sharma making up children's stories, goswami shouting like a madman.

It is indeed torture. Their media is a big circus.

Palki Sharma is the mouthpiece of chaiwala Modi.
 
I'm not interested about your personal age :kp
You're clearly not 15, and judging by how defensively you responded, you're definitely older, maybe even old enough to know better. Which makes it all the more baffling, why are you so eager to take on the role of a 15 year old? Why are you regressing?
 
So you accept india has been making up lies.

it is india who gave the world this Bollywood story of this attack. Get your own people killed and do it badly too.

Still.ducking the question of these suspects firing at indian troops? Are you ashamed or do you think it's a lie ?
Lol you're trying to be oversmart. Some random people posting the fake news is not equal to Pakistan ISPR fake news.

Indian goverment or security agencies hasn't post any fake news unlike Pakistan .

:kp
 
You're clearly not 15, and judging by how defensively you responded, you're definitely older, maybe even old enough to know better. Which makes it all the more baffling, why are you so eager to take on the role of a 15 year old? Why are you regressing?
Do I care what you think ? Absolutely not :kp
 
Lol you're trying to be oversmart. Some random people posting the fake news is not equal to Pakistan ISPR fake news.

Indian goverment or security agencies hasn't post any fake news unlike Pakistan .

:kp

I'm asking you a simple question a 15 year old can answer.

have Indian forces engaged 4 times with these suspects since the attack? Yes or no
 
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