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Is SuryaKumar Yadav the most overrated/overhyped player ever?

Major said:
Failed in the match that matter, now the fans are coming out of the cave to celebrate a meaningless t20 innings
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Better T20 batsman than anyone in Pakistan history including your hero who bottled two World Cup matches vs India.
 
Loved how Cummins exposed this guy. During the whole match he was trying to hit it backwards, couldnt even connect one, maintains a strike rate of 65 and fails massively and becomes part of the Indian folkshire of another failed player who couldn't win India anything in the last 10 years.

Anyways, back to IPL and series bashing.
 
Major said:
Loved how Cummins exposed this guy. During the whole match he was trying to hit it backwards, couldnt even connect one, maintains a strike rate of 65 and fails massively and becomes part of the Indian folkshire of another failed player who couldn't win India anything in the last 10 years.

Anyways, back to IPL and series bashing.
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Loved how Blessing Muzarabani and Colin Ngrava made Babar and Rizwan bounce up and down in the 2022 T20 World Cup too.
 
Mamoon said:
Babar and Rizwan are nothing compared to Surya in this format. He is an incredible player.

He would would also average 50+ if he opens against third string attacks and is asked to score a 120 SR half-century.

He plays for the team which is why he plays high risk shots because he cares about the run rate not his average.

He is an absolute gem of a player and his consistency at this strike is amazing. Babar and Rizwan would be averaging in the teens if they strike at 170+.
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Just how fast the night changes
 
Major said:
How is misbah overhyped?
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He isn't, he's only overhyped by you and daytrader lol.

Everyone else doesn't view him as a god like you do, tbf they view babar as a god and view misbah as just average.
 
Major said:
All the time I see Indians hype up about Surya this Surya that. Sky is gonna do this.

3 matches against us, and he has done nothing.

Indians tell us how he is the true no.1, not Babar or Rizwan, we are yet to see Surya to do anything against us.
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first of all Pakistan should not be a benchmark for any team as pakistan is a poor team and a very bad example to follow.

surya yadav AVE 45 s/r 171
babar azam AVE 41 s/r 129
rizwan AVE 48 s/r 127

t20 is the the format where you need to score fast as possible in minimal balls as possible, that's why strike rate is important in this format, its not like tests where you can almost ignore the strike rate.

its even sane to think about comparing surya with rizwan and babar, surya is way ahead

babar and rizwan are not even t20 players they are just greedy inviduals hogging places of deserving youngsters in t20 cricket
 
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emranabbas said:
first of all Pakistan should not be a benchmark for any team as pakistan is a poor team and a very bad example to follow.

surya yadav AVE 45 s/r 171
babar azam AVE 41 s/r 129
rizwan AVE 48 s/r 127

t20 is the the format where you need to score fast as possible in minimal balls as possible, that's why strike rate is important in this format, its not like tests where you can almost ignore the strike rate.

its even sane to think about comparing surya with rizwan and babar, surya is way ahead

babar and rizwan are not even t20 players they are just greedy inviduals hogging places of deserving youngsters in t20 cricket
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if pakistan is a poor team than why cant Surya not perform against them?

I love how a poster here mentions Pakistani fans, but the same fans are quick to label Pakistan as a poor team because their favourites are not in the team....

In the last 15 overs, Surya had to score runs, and he failed to do so and India failed to win the world cup cause of him. One talk show made fun of how this guy was just more interested in rotating his wrist towards the backward and not be able to connect anything.

This is why flat track bullies fail in important matches and cant be relied upon the moment the pitch is not in there favor.
 
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not trying to embarrass Rizwan and Babar but these are the players they should be compared with who have similar average and strike rate to them. players like sky are way ahead. only rizwan and babar has played so many games with these stats any other team would have sacked them both years back

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its soo funny watching Pakistani posters who try to bring other players and try to put them down just to praise Surya.

Bhai, you dont need to bring other players if you think the player you are defending is good enough.
 
emranabbas said:
not trying to embarrass Rizwan and Babar but these are the players they should be compared with who have similar average and strike rate to them. players like sky are way ahead. only rizwan and babar has played so many games with these stats any other team would have sacked them both years back

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Marcus Trescothic, player and quality wise was a World class white ball opener.

In today’s cricket he would be on DeQock/Warner’s level.

Hell of a player! One of my favourite pure English cricketers of all time!
 
Rana said:
Marcus Trescothic, player and quality wise was a World class white ball opener.

In today’s cricket he would be on DeQock/Warner’s level.

Hell of a player! One of my favourite pure English cricketers of all time!
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he still managed 53 off 36 balls in his last game vs pakistan dont think rizzu bhai or bobzy the king ever managed that
 
Major said:
if pakistan is a poor team than why cant Surya not perform against them?

I love how a poster here mentions Pakistani fans, but the same fans are quick to label Pakistan as a poor team because their favourites are not in the team....

In the last 15 overs, Surya had to score runs, and he failed to do so and India failed to win the world cup cause of him. One talk show made fun of how this guy was just more interested in rotating his wrist towards the backward and not be able to connect anything.

This is why flat track bullies fail in important matches and cant be relied upon the moment the pitch is not in there favor.
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we're genuine fans, not blindly devoted ones. We recognize our flaws and are committed to addressing them. This is the path to progress—learning from mistakes and owning up to them and then working to improve.

if you want to talk about important matches there's nothing more important that world cup

Surya - AVE 56.20 S/R 181.29
rizwan - AVE 41.45 S/R 120.00
Babar - AVE 35.58 S/R 114.47

surya has more impact than rizwan and babar put together
 
Rana said:
Just how fast the night changes
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Change what? There is no doubt that SKY is better than Babar and every other batsman Pakistan has ever had in the T20I format.

The only thing that doesn’t change is the one track mind of people like you, @topspin, @mominsaigol and a few others.
 
Mamoon said:
Change what? There is no doubt that SKY is better than Babar and every other batsman Pakistan has ever had in the T20I format.

The only thing that doesn’t change is the one track mind of people like you, @topspin, @mominsaigol and a few others.
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You claimed babar is on par with Indian batsmen in our last discussion, when I told you he wasn't.

Sky is the weakest link and can't even get in the odi team unless pandya is injured.

So who does he replace? Rohit? Gill? Kohli? Sheryas? Rahul? Pandya?

I asked you a question and you ducked it cause of your one track babar babar obsession.
 
mominsaigol said:
You claimed babar is on par with Indian batsmen in our last discussion, when I told you he wasn't.

Sky is the weakest link and can't even get in the odi team unless pandya is injured.

So who does he replace? Rohit? Gill? Kohli? Sheryas? Rahul? Pandya?

I asked you a question and you ducked it cause of your one track babar babar obsession.
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SKY cannot get into ODI team because he struggled for whatever reason.

If I have to choose between SKY and Shreyas, I would choose SKY without hesitation in T20's and even in ODI's, I will take my chances with SKY. Shreyas simply cannot play short balls.
 
Champ_Pal said:
SKY cannot get into ODI team because he struggled for whatever reason.

If I have to choose between SKY and Shreyas, I would choose SKY without hesitation in T20's and even in ODI's, I will take my chances with SKY. Shreyas simply cannot play short balls.
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sky in my opinion isn't a odi player but he's a very good t20 player
 
emranabbas said:
sky in my opinion isn't a odi player but he's a very good t20 player
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He can easily dominate ODI's too. But he tries too much in ODI's and after a couple of failures, the pressure is too much on him.
SKY is 34 and his ODI time is over I believe. India does not play much ODI cricket anyways and India has enough youngsters coming through to gobble up the middle order spots.
 
Major said:
if pakistan is a poor team than why cant Surya not perform against them?
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Lara test avg against ind is 34 and afridis avg is 47.Lara highest score is 120 and afridis 157.Lara have 2 centuries and afridi have 3.All these stats happened when ind were extremely poor /avg side.As per Ur logic,lara is a poor guy who was not able to be taken out by atg aussie teams for 15plus years.
 
emranabbas said:
sky in my opinion isn't a odi player but he's a very good t20 player
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We've already lost ODI World cup by playing him. He has poor ODI stats and lacks the temperament to rotate the strike during difficult phases after losing quick wickets. Despite this, our management even picked him for Tests, only god knows on what basis they have picked for tests. :ROFLMAO:
Even in T20s, he has never played clutch innings when needed and failed in all tournaments except for a couple of matches against weaker opponents. However, he is very good player for T20s. I hope he will perform well in this year's T20 World Cup.
 
mominsaigol said:
You claimed babar is on par with Indian batsmen in our last discussion, when I told you he wasn't.

Sky is the weakest link and can't even get in the odi team unless pandya is injured.

So who does he replace? Rohit? Gill? Kohli? Sheryas? Rahul? Pandya?

I asked you a question and you ducked it cause of your one track babar babar obsession.
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Babar is a far superior ODI and Test batsman than SKY will ever be. Babar is on par with all Indian batsman except a few that we have already discussed previously.

If you specifically talk about T20Is then I won’t have Babar in the Indian team because India have similar but better players who can play the same role.
 
Vikram1989 said:
Lara test avg against ind is 34 and afridis avg is 47.Lara highest score is 120 and afridis 157.Lara have 2 centuries and afridi have 3.All these stats happened when ind were extremely poor /avg side.As per Ur logic,lara is a poor guy who was not able to be taken out by atg aussie teams for 15plus years.
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Lara had a proper career, who batted on proper wickets.

Surya played only one format on flat tracks and did nothing against pakistan or in a finals where it mattered and indians hyped him up soo much.

He reminds me of Varun Chakrawarthy who was also hyped to the moon
 
emranabbas said:
bro misbah's average vs zimbabwe is 15 as per your logic is misbah a rubbish player?
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You can go make a thread on that.

Discussion here is surya, who failed to perform against pakistan and failed in finals.

Anyways, i know you have nothing to post about and will keep on bringing players upon players instead of discuss the mentioned player
 
Major said:
Lara had a proper career, who batted on proper wickets.

Surya played only one format on flat tracks and did nothing against pakistan or in a finals where it mattered and indians hyped him up soo much.

He reminds me of Varun Chakrawarthy who was also hyped to the moon
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No one cares about pak, you are not aus, just a mediocre team with arrogant fans.

Babar has failed massively in both the 2021 semis and 2022 final and has always been terrible against india across formats expect for 1 innings(even then rizwan and shaheen were better).

So babar is a nobody, just an avg player hyped by pakistani fans because they don't produce great batsmen and needed a pakistani version of kohli
 
Major said:
You can go make a thread on that.

Discussion here is surya, who failed to perform against pakistan and failed in finals.

Anyways, i know you have nothing to post about and will keep on bringing players upon players instead of discuss the mentioned player
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Misbah failed in Durban and Mohali, was a choker who always let his team down.

Why shouldn't be discussed? because its an uncomfortable topic
 
Statpadder Inc said:
No one cares about pak, you are not aus, just a mediocre team with arrogant fans.

Babar has failed massively in both the 2021 semis and 2022 final and has always been terrible against india across formats expect for 1 innings(even then rizwan and shaheen were better).

So babar is a nobody, just an avg player hyped by pakistani fans because they don't produce great batsmen and needed a pakistani version of kohli
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So no one cares about pak, we are not aus, and yet surya cant score against us lol.
 
Statpadder Inc said:
Misbah failed in Durban and Mohali, was a choker who always let his team down.

Why shouldn't be discussed? because its an uncomfortable topic
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Read the thread title, if more confusion read it again.

Keep reading it till you understand what the topic is about.
 
Statpadder Inc said:
No one cares about pak, you are not aus, just a mediocre team with arrogant fans.
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Would be more appropriate on Auspassion then if you have so much disdain for Pakistan.

Obviously here you are going to get a Pakistani perspective. What else would u expect?

Most of us dont give a hoot about what Sky does in IPL.
 
Major said:
So no one cares about pak, we are not aus, and yet surya cant score against us lol.
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Lol kohli averages 14 in bang, so what? lots of good players underperform against poor opposition.

I coudlnt care less if he doesnt perform against the team that got humiliated by zimbabwe in the last wc.

Sky had a much better t20 wc than both babar and rizwan
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Would be more appropriate on Auspassion then if you have so much disdain for Pakistan.

Obviously here you are going to get a Pakistani perspective. What else would u expect?

Most of us dont give a hoot about what Sky does in IPL.
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Sky outperformed babar in the last t20 wc

No one has disdain for pak, the current pak team is very poor and performing against them doesnt carry much weight
 
Statpadder Inc said:
Sky outperformed babar in the last t20 wc

No one has disdain for pak, the current pak team is very poor and performing against them doesnt carry much weight
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Suriya can do whatever he wants in Mickey mouse cricket wake me up when he performs in proper formats.
 
I would dearly love to have any player that show intent. Yes he takes huge risks. But that is what you should do in this format. Not tuktuking singles with occasional 4. I would take few more like him if i could. Too bad India has just one SKY.
 
Statpadder Inc said:
Sky outperformed babar in the last t20 wc

No one has disdain for pak, the current pak team is very poor and performing against them doesnt carry much weight
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He did really well against the Netherlands, Bangladesh, and Zimbabwe in the last T20 World Cup. Which one of those knocks carries weight in your eyes?
 
Statpadder Inc said:
His 68 of 40 against rabada, ngidi and northern in Perth when the entire team folded for 133.

Certainly not as epic as babars brilliant 0 against india .
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Was a bit of a flukey slog tbh. He got a chance to hit out because India rolled over cheaply. Sometimes that South Africa team gets called rubbish for losing to Holland but I guess they were giants here because Sky scored a knock in a losing knock against them.


The Saffers chased down India's score easily. It was an ok knock in a losing cause I guess. I would rate Babars calm knock in a pressure cooker semi final situation during that WC as far better.

Sky did smash Bangladesh and Scotland I'll give you that.
 
The high 5 gang.

You need this gang to make sure the truth is served, and delusions/misguidance is not normalised.

I went for a wedding reception, I come back and see Misbah fans swarm this thread to make it sound like Sky really is overrated.

Relax now everyone. Play time is over.
 
Rana said:
Marcus Trescothic, player and quality wise was a World class white ball opener.

In today’s cricket he would be on DeQock/Warner’s level.

Hell of a player! One of my favourite pure English cricketers of all time!
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Loved watching him. He would've been perfect for this era and walked into England's 2019 WC winning team, that's how good he was. When he was playing in England's ODI team, he had dead batsmen around him.
 
Rana said:
Imagine Misbah fans calling Sky overrated….














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Misbah fans should be the last people on Earth to say a word against SKY. One of them is calling him overrated and the other is calling him a flukey.

Misbah fan's substandard cricketing IQ on full display for everyone to see.
 
Rana said:
Speak for yourself.

Those who have an ounce of true love for Pakistan cricket are always studying the opponent. As such, some of us are always keeping an eye on what’s going on around the world. Not just SKY, but every player that is a threat.
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Lololol.

Any Pakistani who keeps tabs on Indian cricketers during the IPL is not right in the head.
 
Major said:
Read the thread title, if more confusion read it again.

Keep reading it till you understand what the topic is about.
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Yeah but no one is going to take you seriously if Misbah is your gold standard. You should've thought about that before making this thread. If I was you bro, stop embarrassing yourself like this. Your contributions on PP would be better served on TimePass until you can finally see the light and one day realise there's more cricket than seeing it through the lens of Misbah.
 
topspin said:
Beautiful and I have another one which I'm saving for the ultimate smackdown, when he next time thinks about pinging me. It'll prove that his new found love for Babar is a sham. You'll be the first to know
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He’s set up so many land mines for himself everywhere
 
Rana said:
Sharjeel’s chucka against Starc is more valuable than Misbah’s ramp against Joginder
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Maybe it is. I haven't brought Misbah into this. Why are you so triggered at a comment to an Indian about Sky being over rated though?
 
Rana said:
Well I think it’s a bit extreme to label Pakistanis who keep tabs on Indian cricketers as not right in the head.

A bit weird tbh. It’s just cricket, a sport.
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You are entitled to your opinion.

I think it's weird to have discussions with other males about imaginary scenarios of Rizwan bouncing. A bit weird tbh. It's just cricket, a sport.

But everyone has freedom to think what they like.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Maybe it is. I haven't brought Misbah into this. Why are you so triggered at a comment to an Indian about Sky being over rated though?
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Because I think it’s a nonsense comment made by a agenda driven poster.

Those who live in glass houses, shouldn’t throw stones.

People are allowed to love, idolise Misbah tbh. If that’s your thing, then that’s your thing. You are entitled to it.

But the said poster exposes Misbah like a full toss ball delivered to AB Devilliers at Bangluru with such threads.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
I think it's weird to have discussions with other males about imaginary scenarios of Rizwan bouncing. A bit weird tbh. It's just cricket, a sport.
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Lol, yeah fair enough

Bounce Billo Bounce refers to Rizwan bouncing up and down against short pitched or back of length balls because of his twitching and shuffling. It’s not mean to have erotic connotations.
 

This thread is not about Misbah or Sharjeel so please stick to the topic. Any more off-topic conversation will be deleted.
 
topspin said:
I missed this.
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All the fans and commentators were saying Babar should have stood his ground because Topley’s (who caught him on the boundary against Mark Wood) feet might have been touching the boundary. Instead Bobsy was on his bike towards the pavilion. He was like ‘na mate I’m having none of this!’
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Would be more appropriate on Auspassion then if you have so much disdain for Pakistan.

Obviously here you are going to get a Pakistani perspective. What else would u expect?

Most of us dont give a hoot about what Sky does in IPL.
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Then why make a sky thread at all? If you don't give a hoot about him lol.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Was a bit of a flukey slog tbh. He got a chance to hit out because India rolled over cheaply. Sometimes that South Africa team gets called rubbish for losing to Holland but I guess they were giants here because Sky scored a knock in a losing knock against them.


The Saffers chased down India's score easily. It was an ok knock in a losing cause I guess. I would rate Babars calm knock in a pressure cooker semi final situation during that WC as far better.

Sky did smash Bangladesh and Scotland I'll give you that.
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Is this how you cope. Poor, babar made a brilliant 25 of 33 so looks bangladesh wasn't that easy.

I disagree, I think babars knock in the final was his best innings.

Babar can't hit sixes like sky, he's a steady accumulator. Not a t20 player.

No Babar has ever been better than that sorry and the saffers were 24-3 at one point and managed to chase a low total with only 2 balls to spare doesn't scream easy to me
 
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