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Is winning a single match against India an achievement for Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Pakistan?

nish_mate said:
There aee only 4 Asian teams, BD is just quota team and should be stripped of their test status and full ICC membership.
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Whatever you say.

I say BD are #4 right now (after eliminating Sri Lanka for both World T20 Super 8 and CT 2025). SL have slipped to #5. Afghans are #3.
 
sweep_shot said:
Whatever you say.

I say BD are #4 right now (after eliminating Sri Lanka for both World T20 Super 8 and CT 2025). SL have slipped to #5. Afghans are #3.
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As trophies matter, and given BD havent won any mens tournament since they were admitted to full membership, they are 5, just above an associate.

Choker and jokers thats what BD team is
 
nish_mate said:
As trophies matter, and given BD havent won any mens tournament since they were admitted to full membership, they are 5, just above an associate.

Choker and jokers thats what BD team is
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Your outburst is comical.

I think we should stick to present. SL currently doesn't seem like a team that can win any trophy. They even failed to avoid eliminations at the hands of Bangladesh.

Having said that, I like SL team. They are humble unlike Indian fans/cricketers.
 
sweep_shot said:
Your outburst is comical.

I think we should stick to present. SL currently doesn't seem like a team that can win any trophy. They even failed to avoid eliminations at the hands of Bangladesh.

Having said that, I like SL team. They are humble unlike Indian fans/cricketers.
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Well I gave you facts and you your opinion not facts

Have BD ever won a tourney? Sl have, BD nope.

you don't like the facts, it's OK, someone has to support the chokers
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Why is it amusing? Are they not matches?

Bilateral cricket has been devalued big time in recent years but are you really going to argue it wasn't a big deal in the past?
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Not nearly as much as the World cup even back then. I gave you real world examples as to why in one of my posts. ( Waz and his family getting threats after 96 qf loss) and most recently the celebrations after the 2021 WC loss.

Look at it this way ... if the Bilateral series were as imp as WC there wouldnt be a big 12 year gap.
 
These crest and trough are part of sporting cycle , highs and lows are part and parcel of game so winning a single game should be an OTT achievement
 
pratiktc said:
It is not just India.

Today the top 4 white ball batting units in world are India/SA/Eng/Aus. All these teams have pushed the frontier of white ball batting and have atleast 3-4 world class smashers in their top 7. Pak team of today would be lucky to take 1 white ball match off any of these in a bilateral series.

Pak batting has always been mediocre and never close to world best but quality pace and spin bowling were their biggest weapons.

In last couple of years Pak spin quality has become worst in its history. When you cannot outbat teams or restrict them in middle overs you cannot beat them.

Even Sri Lanka is a low level team but atleast on a slow spinning deck they can compete with bigger teams. Pak cannot even do that anymore.
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Not only the spin quality and their pace quality has become poor and deteriorating over the time.
 
Adiram said:
Not only the spin quality and their pace quality has become poor and deteriorating over the time.
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Yes it was surprising to see the Pakistan team under performing inspite of having Amir-Shahhen-Naseem-Rauf in recent T20 World Cup.
 
Yes, it is some sort of achievement. why?

because all these teams are going downhill in terms of cricket. Look at Pakistan, they have deteriorated so much that even winning against teams like Ireland or Canada is seen as a big thing.
 
boomboomcheema said:
Under Babar, Pakistan have been turned into ultra minnows against India. Atleast under Misbah Pakistan would beat India in India in an Odi series.

Even Junaid Khan and Nasir Jamshed were talented enough to beat India and look what kind of Cricketers are being produced today..
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Both Junaid and Nasir Jamshed had played well for a good number of matches. Junaid played in 2017 Champions Trophy. But all on a sudden both the players had disappeared. I believe they both have not reached retirement age. Still why are they not selected any more?
 
As of today for last 5 odd years, if India plays a full strength side against any of Asian countries + Zim, Ireland, it is true that wining a single game is achievement. SL in last 2 Odis has not lasted 20 0vers, Pakistan since 2017 has managed 2 wins 0 CT 2017 and T20WC 2021. India usually does not play a full side against Asian countries, unless its a WC tournament game.
For eg Bumrah, Kohli, Rohit, Pandya are usually rested in bilaterals vs SL, BD etc

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I think we should have a some sort of a competition here, say for some Shrute
Bucks, when will the next Pakistani victory against India occur. My money is on sometime in 2025.
 
sweep_shot said:
LOL. Absolutely not.

I expect India to come to the ground once Bumrah, Kohli, and Rohit retire.
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Players are an output of the system.
India has had a robust cricketing system since WC 2003.

I don't think we should be worried about not having enough good players .

Having said that, Bumrah would be hard to replace.
 
It is an achievement because Pakistan is now struggling to win even against teams like Ireland, Afghanistan, cannada, nepal etc so winning the game against INDIA is something to cherish their whole life.
 
captain.hansolo said:
I think we should have a some sort of a competition here, say for some Shrute
Bucks, when will the next Pakistani victory against India occur. My money is on sometime in 2025.
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In the CT Dubai 2025 game, I feel Pakistan will use the pent up anger against us for not visiting their country and hurl their fury at us.

But I thought the same during Asia cup 2023 but all we got in return from them was a 228 run humiliation so you will never now I guess.
 
Pakistan in T20s has a 50/50 chance of beating India, needs to hold its nerve

Pakistan in 50 overs, has a 40% chance of winning

Therefore not an achievement at all for PCT.

For BD cricket team, yes it will be an achievement if they can beat India outside of BD
 
nish_mate said:
Pakistan in T20s has a 50/50 chance of beating India, needs to hold its nerve

Pakistan in 50 overs, has a 40% chance of winning
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Very generous but reality is different..


That New York pitch made Pakistan look much better than they actually are while nerfing India's batting strength and still Pakistan managed to lose it. Literally everything went in their favour that game.

On a normal T20 batting wicket, India will bat Pakistan out of the game 4/5 times or comfortably chase whatever middling total they put up.

And lol at 40% chance in ODIs. They haven't won a single ODI against us since the CT final 2017. The gap is way too much..
 
Mesozoic said:
Very generous but reality is different..


That New York pitch made Pakistan look much better than they actually are while nerfing India's batting strength and still Pakistan managed to lose it. Literally everything went in their favour that game.

On a normal T20 batting wicket, India will bat Pakistan out of the game 4/5 times or comfortably chase whatever middling total they put up.

And lol at 40% chance in ODIs. They haven't won a single ODI against us since the CT final 2017. The gap is way too much..
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MCG was in Pakistans bag and that was a normal pitch, till PCT collectively lost its bottle and cojones as well. That was a normal cricketing pitch?

ODIs there have been only 5 since 2017, hence giving benefit of doubt to PCT.
 
nish_mate said:
MCG was in Pakistans bag and that was a normal pitch, till PCT collectively lost its bottle and cojones as well. That was a normal cricketing pitch
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MCG happened in 2022. We were without Bumrah and were playing passengers like KL, Bhuvi and DK. Our time right now is much more balanced, improved and most importantly is playing with the right mentality. In 2022, KL Rahul was playing out maiden overs against Zimbabwe in the powerplay. Apples to oranges comparison as a lot have changed since then..

nish_mate said:
ODIs there have been only 5 since 2017, hence giving benefit of doubt to PCT.
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This would have made sense if Pakistan were atleast competitive in one odd game or so. It wasn't the case. They got beat comprehensively everytime irrespective of toss or conditions. Even in that rained out game in Kandy, they were lucky to not face Bumrah, Siraj, Kuldeep and Pandya under lights..or else would have been 6 defeats in 6. .

Giving them 40% chance in ODIs is just straight up charity.
 
Mesozoic said:
MCG happened in 2022. We were without Bumrah and were playing passengers like KL, Bhuvi and DK. Our time right now is much more balanced, improved and most importantly is playing with the right mentality. In 2022, KL Rahul was playing out maiden overs against Zimbabwe in the powerplay. Apples to oranges comparison as a lot have changed since then..



This would have made sense if Pakistan were atleast competitive in one odd game or so. It wasn't the case. They got beat comprehensively everytime irrespective of toss or conditions. Even in that rained out game in Kandy, they were lucky to not face Bumrah, Siraj, Kuldeep and Pandya under lights..or else would have been 6 defeats in 6. .

Giving them 40% chance in ODIs is just straight up charity.
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I am saying MCG was a close affair, so was NY, and given the dependancy on Bumrah, it is a close affair. Without Boom Boom Bumrah it will be a lot closer- therefore any win over PCT is not a given.

In the ODIs IMHO all that matters are pressure/key games (hence my disdain of overall ICT and PCT H2H record), and in 2017 PCT whooped our backside and since then we have only played two games of importance- 2019 and 2023. It might be charity but its my opinion, that usually in finals ICT does come under pressure. Its another matter if PCT reaches to finals, if they do then it is more 50:50 ICT vs PCT.
 
nish_mate said:
I am saying MCG was a close affair, so was NY, and given the dependancy on Bumrah, it is a close affair. Without Boom Boom Bumrah it will be a lot closer- therefore any win over PCT is not a given.
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And I have already stated why NY even became a close affair in the first place. It was a subpar surface which reduced the gap between stronger and weaker sides. South Africa were all set to lose to Bangladesh and even their game against the Netherlands was close.

All I'm saying is that on a normal batting friendly T20 surface, Pakistan doesn't have the batting firepower to match the current Indian side. And 80% of T20 wickets worldwide are flat batting beauties. So you saying it'd be 50-50 is just plain exaggeration.

nish_mate said:
In the ODIs IMHO all that matters are pressure/key games (hence my disdain of overall ICT and PCT H2H record), and in 2017 PCT whooped our backside and since then we have only played two games of importance- 2019 and 2023. It might be charity but its my opinion, that usually in finals ICT does come under pressure. Its another matter if PCT reaches to finals, if they do then it is more 50:50 ICT vs PCT.
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Fair enough. I was just rightfully disagreeing on those 60-40 odds that you gave Pak despite the fact that they never even came close to beating us in this format since the Ct final. The gap between the two sides in this format right now is as just as big as the gap between Pakistan and say Scotland.
 
nish_mate said:
Pakistan in 50 overs, has a 40% chance of winning
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I don't think pak have any bowlers who can bowl 10 good overs in odi.All pak bowlers are good t20 bowlers at max.May be only exception case is naseem as we have not seen him much in odis still .Aus tour should tell that.Shahee, naseeem and xyz .it means almost 30 to 35 overs of free runs.am not yet sold on abrar as mystery bowlers will wear off like ajanta mends.At Max i can think 20 percent in case of total breakdown by us.If we get a good opening, they can forget the match
 
Vikram1989 said:
I don't think pak have any bowlers who can bowl 10 good overs in odi.All pak bowlers are good t20 bowlers at max.May be only exception case is naseem as we have not seen him much in odis still .Aus tour should tell that.Shahee, naseeem and xyz .it means almost 30 to 35 overs of free runs.am not yet sold on abrar as mystery bowlers will wear off like ajanta mends.At Max i can think 20 percent in case of total breakdown by us.If we get a good opening, they can forget the match
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And if Naseem/xyz/abc produces a 3/3 spell in their 10 overs, then not much luck with halwa bowling following up.

Not yet sold on future Indian players yet, they are an unkown in ODI too.
 
nish_mate said:
Not yet sold on future Indian players yet, they are an unkown in ODI too.
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I think we are in good shape in odis .Jaiswal, Gill,Sai Sudarshan, Pant/Jurel, kl(I wish some one else),pandya /Nitish/Venkatesh iyer /Abhishek Sharma, , axar,washi .batting up to 8 and reasonably fine.
 
Vikram1989 said:
I think we are in good shape in odis .Jaiswal, Gill,Sai Sudarshan, Pant/Jurel, kl(I wish some one else),pandya /Nitish/Venkatesh iyer /Abhishek Sharma, , axar,washi .batting up to 8 and reasonably fine.
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Lets see how they firm up. On paper the pedigree is there, performance yet to be tested thoroughly.
 
After winning first two matches in the series, India rested Hardik, Axar, Pant and Arshdeep for the dead rubber
All these four players featured in world cup final.
Srilanka still lost to you India. This indicates that Beating India nowadays is a major task for all subcontinent teams..
 
Feeling sorry for Sanath Jayasuriya.
Having to witness all these choking as a coach must be an awful feeling.
 
Mesozoic said:
In the CT Dubai 2025 game, I feel Pakistan will use the pent up anger against us for not visiting their country and hurl their fury at us.

But I thought the same during Asia cup 2023 but all we got in return from them was a 228 run humiliation so you will never now I guess.
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Yeah I wish to revise my estimate. 2025 is not the year Pakistan will put one past us. They may even get two bites at the apple.

But alas no. Babar and company will find the task of facing India both quixotic and Sisyphean.
 
In T20Is especially any win vs India is now pretty much an upset. Under Rohit Sharma , this team has upscaled incredibly and now at par with the greatest Aussie teams.

Proof - India has won 50 matches under Rohit out of just 62. That's a win Loss of 4.17.

The greatest Aussie team under Ponting had a win Loss ratio of 3.2.
 
Sri Lanka was poor in all these games. From the winning position, they choked and lost eventually. Scoring 8 runs in the last 2 overs against SKY and Rinku was even below minnow-level stuff.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Sri Lanka was poor in all these games. From the winning position, they choked and lost eventually. Scoring 8 runs in the last 2 overs against SKY and Rinku was even below minnow-level stuff.
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So India had nothing to do with winning this series 3-0, right?
 
MP2011 said:
So India had nothing to do with winning this series 3-0, right?
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India didn't even want to win bro, they bowled rinku and SKY because their looking to groom talent. And test their options.

Im 100% sure they didnt care about this game but Sri lanka bottled it beyond belief.
BouncerGuy said:
Why not,,, Rinku and Sky bowling was a brave move. But Sri Lanka was in a winning position is those games.
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mominsaigol said:
India didn't even want to win bro, they bowled rinku and SKY because their looking to groom talent. And test their options.

Im 100% sure they didnt care about this game but Sri lanka bottled it beyond belief.
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Strange things like this have happened before. India was the victim. The famous controversial SCG Bucknor test is the one that comes to my mind. India just had 2 overs to survive to earn a draw. 3 wickets in hand. Lost 3 wickets in one over to Michael clarke who bowled just his second over. Sometimes pressure can make you do funny things. India was furious in that test as many umpiring decision went against them. Lost a winnable Test. Mind was not right. Same here. Srilanka have suffered a series of collapses in recent times in LOI formats against India. So that fear of defeat made them do funny things. The thing is they didn't have to hit any of the ball for six or four. But they went for it anyway. It reminds me of the Bangladesh match against India where they needed 2 in 3 balls and still went on to lose the match with two well set batsmen.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Strange things like this have happened before. India was the victim. The famous controversial SCG Bucknor test is the one that comes to my mind. India just had 2 overs to survive to earn a draw. 3 wickets in hand. Lost 3 wickets in one over to Michael clarke who bowled just his second over. Sometimes pressure can make you do funny things. India was furious in that test as many umpiring decision went against them. Lost a winnable Test. Mind was not right. Same here. Srilanka have suffered a series of collapses in recent times in LOI formats against India. So that fear of defeat made them do funny things. The thing is they didn't have to hit any of the ball for six or four. But they went for it anyway. It reminds me of the Bangladesh match against India where they needed 2 in 3 balls and still went on to lose the match with two well set batsmen.
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Except Bucknor's a an excellent umpire whilst BCCI and India are evil and haram.

BD well thats just BD, Mushfiq had flashbacks of 2007 and came a bit too quickly......
 
nish_mate said:
Except Bucknor's a an excellent umpire whilst BCCI and India are evil and haram.

BD well thats just BD, Mushfiq had flashbacks of 2007 and came a bit too quickly......
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As hard as it is to believe these kind of collapses happen when your mentality is minnow level. At this juncture against India Srilanka's mentality is minnow level. How many matches Afghanistan lost from winning positions. Back in the 90s there was one match where India needed 25 runs in 7 overs with 7 wickets in hand. They scored only 18 i think and bowled out. Harakiri. Azharuddin was livid after that match.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
As hard as it is to believe these kind of collapses happen when your mentality is minnow level. At this juncture against India Srilanka's mentality is minnow level. How many matches Afghanistan lost from winning positions. Back in the 90s there was one match where India needed 25 runs in 7 overs with 7 wickets in hand. They scored only 18 i think and bowled out. Harakiri. Azharuddin was livid after that match.
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Too much rationality to process. Easier to accept SL got $$$ and threw it, nothing else is true.
 
With inclusion of Kohli, Rohit, Rahul and kuldeep, Srilankan chances of winning looks very slim.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
As hard as it is to believe these kind of collapses happen when your mentality is minnow level. At this juncture against India Srilanka's mentality is minnow level. How many matches Afghanistan lost from winning positions. Back in the 90s there was one match where India needed 25 runs in 7 overs with 7 wickets in hand. They scored only 18 i think and bowled out. Harakiri. Azharuddin was livid after that match.
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SL middle order averages less than 20 in the last 5 years of T20Is
 
Sri Lanka would have loved to save themselves from whitewash at least but they botched the whole series. India was not that strong with their main payers rested but still, they could not win from being in the winning position, they choked.

It would be an achievement for them if they beat India in an ODI game with ROhit and virat there.
 
Unbiased-Fan said:
With inclusion of Kohli, Rohit, Rahul and kuldeep, Srilankan chances of winning looks very slim.
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If the wicket turns like last year's Asia Cup Super 4 match, India will be in trouble.

Wellalage got 5 wickets, India won a close contest in the end although the victory margin was 40 runs.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Sri Lanka would have loved to save themselves from whitewash at least but they botched the whole series. India was not that strong with their main payers rested but still, they could not win from being in the winning position, they choked.

It would be an achievement for them if they beat India in an ODI game with ROhit and virat there.
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India are the World Champions in the T20 format, plus they have been #1 team in the T20 rankings for a long time now, it's difficult to beat India atm.
 
Sir Alex said:
In T20Is especially any win vs India is now pretty much an upset. Under Rohit Sharma , this team has upscaled incredibly and now at par with the greatest Aussie teams.

Proof - India has won 50 matches under Rohit out of just 62. That's a win Loss of 4.17.

The greatest Aussie team under Ponting had a win Loss ratio of 3.2.
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LOL. Are you for real?

ATG Aussies won 3 world titles and 1 CT.

Australia faced tougher opponents. Also, you are mixing up formats.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Sri Lanka would have loved to save themselves from whitewash at least but they botched the whole series. India was not that strong with their main payers rested but still, they could not win from being in the winning position, they choked.

It would be an achievement for them if they beat India in an ODI game with ROhit and virat there.
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At this point, it would be an achievement for any Asian team to beat an Indian B team.
 
AMSS said:
Last 10 years in 9 ODIs between India and Pakistan, India won 7, lost 1 and no result in 1.

Last 10 years in T20s, played 7 with India winning 5 and losing 2.
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That’s domination of a level never seen before within Bharat - Pakistan rivalry.

We have crushed them and during that process also changed them. Mentally speaking their team is incapable of looking into our team’s eye. Bharatiya team took their mojo and masculinity. Sad, bitter but true.
 
Mesozoic said:
In the CT Dubai 2025 game, I feel Pakistan will use the pent up anger against us for not visiting their country and hurl their fury at us.

But I thought the same during Asia cup 2023 but all we got in return from them was a 228 run humiliation so you will never now I guess.
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LOL NO.
Pak players led by Captain fantastic will show up just to get beaten and highlight for them will be getting a shirt from Kohli.
 
sweep_shot said:
LOL. Are you for real?

ATG Aussies won 3 world titles and 1 CT.

Australia faced tougher opponents. Also, you are mixing up formats.
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Aus didn't face tougher opponents. The likes of Bangladesh were as bad as they are today, if not worse.

Also, it's much harder for teams to consistently win in T20s as compared to ODIs. India under Rohit has demonstrated that. No other team comes even close.
 
Sir Alex said:
Aus didn't face tougher opponents. The likes of Bangladesh were as bad as they are today, if not worse.

Also, it's much harder for teams to consistently win in T20s as compared to ODIs. India under Rohit has demonstrated that. No other team comes even close.
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Yes they did lol.

Classic SA wipes the floor with current SA. Classic SA is the same side that chased 438 against Classic Australia with the likes of Mcgrath and Warne bowling.

Classic Zimbabwe was actually a very strong team, one that managed to upset Classic aus and Classic Zimbabwe would absolutely cremate current Pakistan 10 out of 10 times.

Classic Pakistan also wipes the floor with current Pakistan no contest. Classic Pakistan literally has unplayable pacers, a gun spin unit and even their batters like Inzi, Saeed Anwar, Miandad, Yousaf, Younis Khan All wipe the floor with current Pakistan especially in the test format.

Classic Sri Lanka also wipes the floor with Current sri lanka no contest given the fact Jaysuria, Dilshan, Sanga, mahela are all superior to the current unit.

Current NZ has fizzled out, they are all out of it, and hence getting spanked left and right by Afghanistan and West Indies.

Classic West Indies vs Current WI isn't even a comparison, Current WI can't even cross Nedtherlands for a wc spot?

Only teams that are superior in the modern era to their old squads are England, as England from 2016 to now is superior to the outdated England of old, and Possibly India, although I think current India is superior if Rohit, Kohli, Bumrah and Shami are playing collectively.
 
mominsaigol said:
Yes they did lol.

Classic SA wipes the floor with current SA. Classic SA is the same side that chased 438 against Classic Australia with the likes of Mcgrath and Warne bowling.

Classic Zimbabwe was actually a very strong team, one that managed to upset Classic aus and Classic Zimbabwe would absolutely cremate current Pakistan 10 out of 10 times.

Classic Pakistan also wipes the floor with current Pakistan no contest. Classic Pakistan literally has unplayable pacers, a gun spin unit and even their batters like Inzi, Saeed Anwar, Miandad, Yousaf, Younis Khan All wipe the floor with current Pakistan especially in the test format.

Classic Sri Lanka also wipes the floor with Current sri lanka no contest given the fact Jaysuria, Dilshan, Sanga, mahela are all superior to the current unit.

Current NZ has fizzled out, they are all out of it, and hence getting spanked left and right by Afghanistan and West Indies.

Classic West Indies vs Current WI isn't even a comparison, Current WI can't even cross Nedtherlands for a wc spot?

Only teams that are superior in the modern era to their old squads are England, as England from 2016 to now is superior to the outdated England of old, and Possibly India, although I think current India is superior if Rohit, Kohli, Bumrah and Shami are playing collectively.
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There was no McGrath and Warne in that game
 
Sir Alex said:
Aus didn't face tougher opponents. The likes of Bangladesh were as bad as they are today, if not worse.

Also, it's much harder for teams to consistently win in T20s as compared to ODIs. India under Rohit has demonstrated that. No other team comes even close.
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LOL. If you think current Indian team is same as ATG Australia, you either have a mental problem or you were too young to witness ATG Australia. As a follower of cricket since 1997, I was privileged to witness ATG Australia from day 1.

Also, massive LOL at comparing T20 to ODI.

I realize no point in discussing this topic with you.

BTW, stop bringing in Bangladesh in every topic.
 
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mominsaigol said:
Yes they did lol.

Classic SA wipes the floor with current SA. Classic SA is the same side that chased 438 against Classic Australia with the likes of Mcgrath and Warne bowling.

Classic Zimbabwe was actually a very strong team, one that managed to upset Classic aus and Classic Zimbabwe would absolutely cremate current Pakistan 10 out of 10 times.

Classic Pakistan also wipes the floor with current Pakistan no contest. Classic Pakistan literally has unplayable pacers, a gun spin unit and even their batters like Inzi, Saeed Anwar, Miandad, Yousaf, Younis Khan All wipe the floor with current Pakistan especially in the test format.

Classic Sri Lanka also wipes the floor with Current sri lanka no contest given the fact Jaysuria, Dilshan, Sanga, mahela are all superior to the current unit.

Current NZ has fizzled out, they are all out of it, and hence getting spanked left and right by Afghanistan and West Indies.

Classic West Indies vs Current WI isn't even a comparison, Current WI can't even cross Nedtherlands for a wc spot?

Only teams that are superior in the modern era to their old squads are England, as England from 2016 to now is superior to the outdated England of old, and Possibly India, although I think current India is superior if Rohit, Kohli, Bumrah and Shami are playing collectively.
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Sir Alex probably started to watch cricket very recently. Young Gen Z?

He tries to measure legends by metrics of today's times. That's a big giveaway.

Pre-2010 cricket world was vastly different.
 
sweep_shot said:
LOL. If you think current Indian team is same as ATG Australia, you either have a mental problem or you were too young to witness ATG Australia. As a follower of cricket since 1997, I was privileged to witness ATG Australia from day 1.

Also, massive LOL at comparing T20 to ODI.

I realize no point in discussing this topic with you.

BTW, stop bringing in Bangladesh in every topic. It makes you look silly.
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Why do you keep bringing up Australia of 20 years ago in a thread about present Asian cricket?? :trollface
 
pakistani pride said:
LOL NO.
Pak players led by Captain fantastic will show up just to get beaten and highlight for them will be getting a shirt from Kohli.
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Pak had the right mentality against India in the 2021-22 phase but the mental scarring of MCG 2022 and then that utter thrashing at Colombo in Asia cup 2023 really has had an adverse effect of the current group of players.

In the recent New York game, each and every one of their batters were looking like scared kittens even when the target was nothing.
 
Mesozoic said:
Pak had the right mentality against India in the 2021-22 phase but the mental scarring of MCG 2022 and then that utter thrashing at Colombo in Asia cup 2023 really has had an adverse effect of the current group of players.

In the recent New York game, each and every one of their batters were looking like scared kittens even when the target was nothing.
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The difference was Jasprit Bumrah, he didn't play in the Asia Cup 2022 tournament.

India won one & Pakistan could win one as Bumrah was absent.

Going by those results in UAE in 2021 & 2022, teams batting second had massive advantage because of the dew favoring the teams batting second.

That's why Pakistan could win the World T20 2021 match as well as the Asia Cup 2022 Super 4 match vs India.

India also chased Pakistan's total in Asia Cup 2022 league match.

Australia won the semi & the final chasing in T20 World Cup 2021 in the UAE.
 
harshjoshi87 said:
The difference was Jasprit Bumrah, he didn't play in the Asia Cup 2022 tournament.

India won one & Pakistan could win one as Bumrah was absent.

Going by those results in UAE in 2021 & 2022, teams batting second had massive advantage because of the dew favoring the teams batting second.

That's why Pakistan could win the World T20 2021 match as well as the Asia Cup 2022 Super 4 match vs India.

India also chased Pakistan's total in Asia Cup 2022 league match.

Australia won the semi & the final chasing in T20 World Cup 2021 in the UAE.
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Without Bumrah, the bowling really lacks a sting!
 
Lanka have been through hell and back, the fact that they’d have avoided a whitewash during this home tour against the A team, is a big thing really.

For Pakistan, any defeat against India is unacceptable. Although I am sure ‘one win’ would be perfectly acceptable for the likes of Babar and Rizwan, they can live off that for many many years……….…oh wait :yk
 
shaz619 said:
Lanka have been through hell and back, the fact that they’d have avoided a whitewash during this home tour against the A team, is a big thing really.

For Pakistan, any defeat against India is unacceptable. Although I am sure ‘one win’ would be perfectly acceptable for the likes of Babar and Rizwan, they can live off that for many many years……….…oh wait :yk
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True.

I dont follow Lankan cricket much, but I read somewhere that many Lankan first team bowlers are injured. (I dont personally know who they are though)

If the above statement is true, yesterday's Tie is a massive result considering Lankans have beaten India only thrice in ODIs the last decade (Since Aug 2014)
 
NishanKonar said:
Harsh but true

We have reached a stage where Pakistan / Sri Lanka / Bangladesh beating India is a mini upset. That's how standards have plummeted in Asian cricket except India. Afghanistan is an exception - improving by leaps & bounds
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On flat pitches
 
This thread has shown how hubris-filled certain Indian fans are.

LOL.

SL are looking good to win 2-0. India also lost 1-2 in Bangladesh. I am just saying.
 
Lol hahahaha. Most embarrassing thread in the history of PP.
Srilanka embarrassed India. How is this for an achievement.
Keep these gold threads coming.These are good for laugh... hahaha
 
followed said:
2-0 India has been embarrassed like no other here. Just delete the thread and save your face.hahaha
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Why should i delete this thread?
Srilankans are celebrating like world cup win and we are happy for them.
This series win means a lot to them, this proves my point further. 👍🏻
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
The member who started this thread must be so embarrassed that he's probably wishing he could turn into John Cena and shout, "You can't see me!" :inti
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I'm not like thosw who only pop up when India lose 😂😂
I'm pretty much happy for Lanka and im glad they proved me wrong.
Cheers
 
Guys no trolling comments against thread please. Everybody is entitled to his opinion
 
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