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This series win for Sri Lanka is just as significant as their 1996 World Cup victory. It's like adding another ICC title to their cabinet.
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Bus karoThis series win for Sri Lanka is just as significant as their 1996 World Cup victory. It's like adding another ICC title to their cabinet.
This series win for Sri Lanka is just as significant as their 1996 World Cup victory. It's like adding another ICC title to their cabinet.
With such a performance its more like an achievement for India.Did India win a single match during the ODI series?
Is a tie considered an achievement for them
Sri Lanka actually beat Australia in the final, which India has never done. They also smashed India so badly in the semis that the Indian fans lost it and set the seats on fire.This series win for Sri Lanka is just as significant as their 1996 World Cup victory. It's like adding another ICC title to their cabinet.
The thing is until it happens it's just hypothetical.Pakistan has neither the cojones nor the spinners to give India raging turners and beat them on a consistent basis.
Sri Lanka, Afghanistan and Bangladesh are all better equipped in this regard.
Let's not over-hype Australia. The Australian team of 1996 was not the same as the teams of 1999, 2003, or 2007. They were like any other team, and anyone could have defeated them in the finals.Sri Lanka actually beat Australia in the final, which India has never done. They also smashed India so badly in the semis that the Indian fans lost it and set the seats on fire.
India, Pakistan and Bangladesh wish they could do something like what Sri Lanka did in 1996. Downplaying that World Cup victory is an absolutely nonsensical thing to do that only a troll would.
Let's not over-hype Australia. The Australian team of 1996 was not the same as the teams of 1999, 2003, or 2007. They were like any other team, and anyone could have defeated them in the finals.
Regarding the 1996 semi-finals, even a team like Namibia could have beaten Sri Lanka if Sri Lanka had batted second on a rank turner. Beating India in an ODI series is at least the second biggest achievement for Sri Lanka, as their current team does not match the talent and skill of the Indian team. If Sri Lanka were so good, how come even their legendary teams couldn't defeat India for 27 years?
I wasn't celebratingSrilanka just tied this match but some people (@Ahmed216, @FearlessRoar) are celebrating like a big win
Level of India
Even with Bumrah and Shami, India would have struggled as they were batting second under those lights on a rank turner in all three matches. The series result wouldn't have been much different.To those who think i have made this thread only to boast about India's dominance, then you guys got me completely wrong.
I was just showing how India has been dominant against subcontinent teams since past decade. I even proved my point using valid statistics.
I'm happy that Srilanka finally beat us in bilateral series after 27 years, but its game of many factors, any team can beat anyone.
But, dominating teams for such long period of time is achievement in itself.
I wasnt belittling other sides, i was just showing how it difficult for them to beat India even in single match.
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Having said so, one must certainly criticise India's ability to play spin and over reliance on Shami-Bumrah.
Let's not over-hype Australia. The Australian team of 1996 was not the same as the teams of 1999, 2003, or 2007. They were like any other team, and anyone could have defeated them in the finals.
Regarding the 1996 semi-finals, even a team like Namibia could have beaten Sri Lanka if Sri Lanka had batted second on a rank turner. Beating India in an ODI series is at least the second biggest achievement for Sri Lanka, as their current team does not match the talent and skill of the Indian team. If Sri Lanka were so good, how come even their legendary teams couldn't defeat India for 27 years?
1996 Australia > 2023 Australia for sure.Again, if it was so easy then India could have beaten Australia atleast once in any final right? Also if you think that the 1996 Australia side was not that good I wonder what you think about the 2023 Australia team that silenced 90,000+ Indian fans and beat an Indian team that had arguably the most dominant run to a WC final in history.
Where Sri Lanka were in 1996 as a team and how they performed in that tournament was nothing short of remarkable. Including the final where Arvinda played an ATG and completely neutered Warne as Sri Lanka chased down 241 with ease. Indian fans whose team got thrashed by Sri Lanka in the semis have no right to cry about pitches or what could have happened.
Nobody gives a rats a$$ about bilateral ODI series. This is not even one of Sri Lanka's Top 5 ODI victories against India.
I honestly think that the 2023 Australian team is probably the worst Australian team to play a WC final. Its probably a toss up between this team and the 1987 team. And that's not even an insult. Its just a reflection of how good Australia have generally been. This Australian team certainly has nothing on the teams from the late-90s, 2000s and 2010s.1996 Australia > 2023 Australia for sure.
2023 Australia got extremely extremely lucky that Afghanistan dropped Maxwell on 29 and that Travis Head came back and performed at the right time at the right place against his favourite team to bully.
Otherwise 2023 Australia was playing with alot of dead weight in Labu, Steve Smith, Marcus stonis, and even Warner was pretty washed up excluding his usual Pakistan bullying antics which he will probably be able to do even when he's 60.
The thing is until it happens it's just hypothetical.
You can imagine Pakistan losing and the cajones of Pakistanis to your hearts content in the meantime time.
Not to mention they don't have batters who can bat on such surfaces either.It's not hypothetical if it's common knowledge. Everyone knows you can challenge India on spin friendly wickets if you have quality disciplined spinners. You just need to be brave. Pakistan has neither qualities. All they have are Shadab Khan's full tosses.
Guys like Ruturaj, Samson, Jurel who play domestic are sidelined for statpadders ftb Gill, Shreyas.Not to mention they don't have batters who can bat on such surfaces either.
Not to mention they don't have batters who can bat on such surfaces either.
Pakistan is in no condition to beat any top side atm.The thing is until it happens it's just hypothetical.
You can imagine Pakistan losing and the cajones of Pakistanis to your hearts content in the meantime time.
Ik and I agree. If you read my posts all the way back to September in the cup i kept saying 2023 Australia is one of the weakest Australian teams to ever play a world cup.I honestly think that the 2023 Australian team is probably the worst Australian team to play a WC final. Its probably a toss up between this team and the 1987 team. And that's not even an insult. Its just a reflection of how good Australia have generally been. This Australian team certainly has nothing on the teams from the late-90s, 2000s and 2010s.
Before this series did you think Sri Lanka could win 2-0?Pakistan is in no condition to beat any top side atm.
Against Sri Lanka they've had to rely on one off miracles to win in past games because Pakistan have no actual spinners and their bowlers are run machines along with a non existent middle order.
In the sri lanka test series the guilty party of Imam, Rizwan, Babar failed and collapsed like a house of cards, Pakistan were lucky that 2 debutant saud shakeel and Abdullah showed up and scored double centuries and single handidely destroyed Sri lanka.
Similarly in the world cup Rizwan and Abdullah Shafiq batted out of their skins to ensure victory.
All encounters against sri lanka have been extremly close encounters with them defeating us in asia cup 2023 and 2022. Pakistan has had to rely on one hit Newbie miracles batting out of their skins to win.
Their bowlers have been useless against sri Lankan batters and the main superstars, Chacha, Babar, Imam, shadab have been walking wickets.
Saud, Abdullah and Rizwan have been soloing sri lanka in the last 2+ years
Ofcourse not, But if you were to ask me the question ofBefore this series did you think Sri Lanka could win 2-0?
Well there you go.Ofcourse not, But if you were to ask me the question of
Whose more likely to beat India, Pakistan or Sri Lanka, MY answer would have been Sri Lanka.
Well there you go.
India would still be dominant yes they are the better team.I think you have a point.
Pakistan would win just as regularly as Sri Lanka did against India, had we been playing regular bilaterals. An odd win sprinkled here and there in the midst of all the 4-1s and the 3-0s just like Sri Lanka.
I understand your viewpoint but I'm telling you sri lanka is also a stronger team that can beat India if India doesn't have their bowling guns like Bumrah, shami and Pandya around.Well there you go.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.Former pacer Tanvir Ahmed is backing Pakistan to beat India after Rohit Sharma’s side lost the ODI series against Sri Lanka for the first time since 1997, he said:
"You see what happens to the Indian batting lineup from here on in the future. The bowling lineup might work it out but the batting lineup will find it difficult. All the new batters in this Indian team at the moment, barring Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli, they cannot carry forward this batting lineup in the future,"
"They might score runs in their home conditions on flat pitches but on pitches where the ball turns seams and swings this batting lineup of India does not have the life to bat in those conditions. They could have scored runs in the first match, that ended in a time, could have scored runs in the second and third ODI as well,"
"First look into your own performances and then have suggestions on Pakistan. If Rohit Sharma, Virat Kohli and Jasprit Bumrah do not play against Pakistan, Pakistan will beat India hands down,"
Yeah, by dropping him from the squadHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Beat them with What? Azam Khan?
People have no clue what their talking about.Yeah, by dropping him from the squad
Lol, why just 3 .. remove the entire top playing XI to better your chancesFormer pacer Tanvir Ahmed is backing Pakistan to beat India after Rohit Sharma’s side lost the ODI series against Sri Lanka for the first time since 1997, he said:
"First look into your own performances and then have suggestions on Pakistan. If Rohit Sharma, Virat Kohli and Jasprit Bumrah do not play against Pakistan, Pakistan will beat India hands down,"
Yep. Azam Khan is the only guy who can beat no other team than Pakistan.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Beat them with What? Azam Khan?
Nopes, whatever be the case. The losses were reminiscent of the past.I think we should not look much into these losses. India batters were rusty, most of them hadn't played any cricket after T20 WC & IPL.
Sri Lanka were lucky with the tosses in all matches, they would have not crossed 50 on those minefields at Premadasa had they batted second.
India were also experimenting, we will certainly not see Dube opening the bowling for India.
Btw Sri Lanka deserves this victories over their bogey team after the twin humiliations of last year - 50 & 55 allout & T20 series loss 0-3 just before the ODIs.
This dumb attitude in the middle overs is due to us fans wanting our cricketers to do only maar dhaad.Nopes, whatever be the case. The losses were reminiscent of the past.
1. No killer punch in bowling: A lower order batsmen carried Sri Lanka to respectable scores every time. Our bowling was toothless and couldn't close the deal and allowed 220+ scores, when it should have been ended at 150 something.
2. Rohit not getting the big daddy hundreds, quick fore 50s are awesome but where are the winning 100s in ODIs
3. Kohli: These were 3 chases in a row and Kohli failed in all 3. Is it case of Kohli playing passed his expiry like Dhoni now?
4. Middle order: Totally headless middle order. Where is the control in difficult conditions.
I have been pointing about the unidimensional nature of T20 teams of England and WI in the quest of high SR. India seems to be following that dumb footprint. We will have amazing strikers when conditions are right, but when things get tough not a single batsman who can hold fort, and batting falls like a house of cards! Kohli of old would have chased this scores with ease!
Let's look at the conditions:Lol, why just 3 .. remove the entire top playing XI to better your chances
These former players sometimes are true gems !!
Let's look at the conditions:
Sharma, Kohli, Bumrah should not play
Perhaps Kuldip Yadav also should not be in the XI
Gil, Jaiswal and Pant must not be among the replacements
PCB get the pick the playing XI.
Sri Lanka were lucky with the tosses in all matches, they would have not crossed 50 on those minefields at Premadasa had they batted second.
There wasn't any Bumrah or Shami to bowl SL out for 50. That doesn't happen daily.
LolThat's such a sour grapes comment.
SL won because they played well. Learn to give credits to oppositions.
There wasn't any Bumrah or Shami to bowl SL out for 50. That doesn't happen daily.