Israel India love affair - Is it mutual or just one-sided?

[The Bald Eagle]

Both occupying forces, bent on massacre and ejection of people under occupation and both being led by psycho war mongering leaderships

 

[cricketjoshila]

Matter of fact, majority of the westerners understand who is committing the genocide but count on Hindutva to lecture the rest of the world. News flash, ain't no westerners are enjoying Garba in the middle of their street anymore.

what have they done to Israel? Nothing

What have Pakistanis done for gaza? Lip service

 

[HalBass9]

what have they done to Israel? Nothing

What have Pakistanis done for gaza? Lip service

LOL,

Are you a circus clown?

 

[sweep_shot]

LOL,

Are you a circus clown?

He is the whole circus.

 

[cricketjoshila]

LOL,

Are you a circus clown?

This is what Pakistanis can do best call names rest theycant do much

 

[HalBass9]

This is what Pakistanis can do best call names rest theycant do much

Unfortunately true, but I can speak against the genocide and call out a clown supporting the genocide and ethnic cleansing, just as the rest of the global south and now majority of the westerners.

Keeping doing viva la genocide.

 

[JaDed]

Indians at best provide lipservice, real service is provided by Zionist money of West and Arab nations that allow their soil to be attacked to kill enemies of Israel.
That's true one sided friendship.

 

[Patriot]

This is what Pakistanis can do best call names rest theycant do much

No one can do much when you are up against the US. No country is going to go to war against America.

For example, China can claim Taiwan all it wants, but it still doesn’t try to take it because of the US. It’s still building up it’s military capability until it thinks it is ready, maybe another 20 years.

I guarantee you that if the US was as protective of Pakistan as it is of Israel, India wouldn’t dare to do anything to Pakistan.

 

[Patriot]

This is what Pakistanis can do best call names rest theycant do much

You also have to understand that Pakistan does not have the capability to attack Israel other than nuke it, which will mean retaliation from Israel as well as NATO/US.

Pakistani fighters cannot reach Israel without aerial refuelling and it doesn’t have enough, plus they would be targeted by Israeli AD. Pakistan also cannot outmatch Israel jets like F-35 and it doesn’t have the warships like an AC to attack Israel, nor does it have any bases between itself and Israel.

Pakistan’s whole military doctrine is focused on India.

 

[sweep_shot]

Joshila the sanghi doesn't understand Israel have the backing from USA. Without the protection, Israel may cease to exist (i.e., likely to lose a war very quickly).

Both India and Israel have rubbish militaries. Only difference is Israel have the backing of USA. India don't. This is why India lost 38,000 sq km territory to China and 5-7 jets to Pakistan.

 

[Patriot]

Joshila the sanghi doesn't understand Israel have the backing from USA. Without the protection, Israel may cease to exist (i.e., likely to lose a war very quickly).

Both India and Israel have rubbish militaries. Only difference is Israel have the backing of USA. India don't. This is why India lost 38,000 sq km territory to China and 5-7 jets to Pakistan.

They get military equipment from the US worth around $3.8bn a year. That’s equivalent to 40 upgraded F-35s, the latest 5th gen jet the US has to offer. They also get a ring-fenced funding for their Air Defence interceptors from the US annually. And this is in a normal year. Recently they got equipment worth up to $18bn.

The funding isn’t direct but rather the US pays its own military industrial complex which then gives the Israelis the equipment they want.

Mind you, the Israeli version of Jets such as the F-35 is even more advanced than what the US Air Force gets lol. That’s the level of support provided!!!! It’s incredible that the US bends over backwards so much for another state.

And this is just military spending, not to forget the muscle and threats etc. the US provides to anyone who even dares to look the wrong way at Israel. Absolutely insane.

 

[sweep_shot]

They get military equipment from the US worth around $3.8bn a year. That’s equivalent to 40 upgraded F-35s, the latest 5th gen jet the US has to offer. They also get a ring-fenced funding for their Air Defence interceptors from the US annually. And this is in a normal year. Recently they got equipment worth up to $18bn.

The funding isn’t direct but rather the US pays its own military industrial complex which then gives the Israelis the equipment they want.

Mind you, the Israeli version of Jets such as the F-35 is even more advanced than what the US Air Force gets lol. That’s the level of support provided!!!! It’s incredible that the US bends over backwards so much for another state.

And this is just military spending, not to forget the muscle and threats etc. the US provides to anyone who even dares to look the wrong way at Israel. Absolutely insane.

US bend over backward for Israel because of deep state stuff.

There is a cabal that controls things and that cabal formed Israel. That cabal also runs USA and UK. Check the documentary "The Arrivals". Also, check Ronald Bernard's interview (it has 5 parts).

 

[sweep_shot]

They get military equipment from the US worth around $3.8bn a year. That’s equivalent to 40 upgraded F-35s, the latest 5th gen jet the US has to offer. They also get a ring-fenced funding for their Air Defence interceptors from the US annually. And this is in a normal year. Recently they got equipment worth up to $18bn.

The funding isn’t direct but rather the US pays its own military industrial complex which then gives the Israelis the equipment they want.

Mind you, the Israeli version of Jets such as the F-35 is even more advanced than what the US Air Force gets lol. That’s the level of support provided!!!! It’s incredible that the US bends over backwards so much for another state.

And this is just military spending, not to forget the muscle and threats etc. the US provides to anyone who even dares to look the wrong way at Israel. Absolutely insane.

US bend over backward for Israel because of deep state stuff.

There is a cabal that controls things and that cabal formed Israel. That cabal also runs USA and UK. Check the documentary "The Arrivals". Also, check Ronald Bernard's interview (it has 5 parts).

Just to add to my original post.

I think there is a possible common connection among Dajjal/Antichrist, freemasonry, the so-called illuminati, and Israel. There is a dark/evil force at play.

In Islamic end time prophecies, Dajjal is supposed to be killed at the "gate of Ludd". Ludd is a city in Israel. It is known as "Lodd".

 

[Champ_Pal]

Just to add to my original post.

I think there is a possible common connection among Dajjal/Antichrist, freemasonry, the so-called illuminati, and Israel. There is a dark/evil force at play.

In Islamic end time prophecies, Dajjal is supposed to be killed at the "gate of Ludd". Ludd is a city in Israel. It is known as "Lodd".

Are we living in 2025? You are linking a country to scriptures with no evidence.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You also have to understand that Pakistan does not have the capability to attack Israel other than nuke it, which will mean retaliation from Israel as well as NATO/US.

Pakistani fighters cannot reach Israel without aerial refuelling and it doesn’t have enough, plus they would be targeted by Israeli AD. Pakistan also cannot outmatch Israel jets like F-35 and it doesn’t have the warships like an AC to attack Israel, nor does it have any bases between itself and Israel.

Pakistan’s whole military doctrine is focused on India.

Pakistan doesn't have capability and pakistanis talk abig talk

Every other day you guys talk of being a nuclear power. What happened now

 

[Patriot]

Pakistan doesn't have capability and pakistanis talk abig talk

Every other day you guys talk of being a nuclear power. What happened now

Pakistan could nuke Israel as its nukes can reach Israel but that means being nuked as well and it also means fallout that could impact the Palestinians.

I’m not sure what you are want? The Pakistani government or military has never threatened Israel openly. The only talk is by Pakistani people.

BTW, just to clarify, India also does not have the capability to attack Israel apart from with nukes like Pakistan.

India doesn’t have conventional missiles that could reach Israel. It’s planes will have even less reach than Pakistani planes as they are further away and the Israeli air defence and F-35s, F-16s and F-15s will wipe them out and India also doesn’t have any bases it can use near Israel. The only thing India has potentially are its carrier groups but Israel will destroy these with its much superior air power and these cannot be sustained there for long without local support which there wouldn’t be.

As I have said, the only country in the world that can power project is the US.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Pakistan could nuke Israel as its nukes can reach Israel but that means being nuked as well and it also means fallout that could impact the Palestinians.

I’m not sure what you are want? The Pakistani government or military has never threatened Israel openly. The only talk is by Pakistani people.

BTW, just to clarify, India also does not have the capability to attack Israel apart from with nukes like Pakistan.

India doesn’t have conventional missiles that could reach Israel. It’s planes will have even less reach than Pakistani planes as they are further away and the Israeli air defence and F-35s, F-16s and F-15s will wipe them out and India also doesn’t have any bases it can use near Israel. The only thing India has potentially are its carrier groups but Israel will destroy these with its much superior air power and these cannot be sustained there for long without local support which there wouldn’t be.

As I have said, the only country in the world that can power project is the US.

will pakistani nuke delivery platforms penetrate usraels defence?

So basically Pakistan cannot do anything for Palestine except big talk

 

[gazza619]

Jews have tremendous love and support for the hindu way of living. Jews admire them immensely and consider them as first class humans.

 

[Patriot]

will pakistani nuke delivery platforms penetrate usraels defence?

So basically Pakistan cannot do anything for Palestine except big talk

Can Pakistani nukes penetrate the Israeli defence? Probably not Tel Aviv since only Iranian hypersonics were penetrating their AD and I don’t think Pakistan has any hypersonic ballistic missiles but other parts of Israel less defended will get hit for sure.

I’m still not getting why you keep saying Pakistan can only talk big. Pakistan has never threatened Israel in any way. It has only called out Israeli genocide and atrocities.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Joshila the sanghi doesn't understand Israel have the backing from USA. Without the protection, Israel may cease to exist (i.e., likely to lose a war very quickly).

Both India and Israel have rubbish militaries. Only difference is Israel have the backing of USA. India don't. This is why India lost 38,000 sq km territory to China and 5-7 jets to Pakistan.

India lost land to china when an idiot called nehru was the pm. He was poking his nose in military ops and appointed his men as chief by passing senior officers. This isn't 1962 india

Usa is backing Ukraine and Ukraine is getting caned usa backed Pakistan in 1971 Pakistan still lost even aftee us sent the 7th fleet inthe India noceanWhat jets lost by indi as per whom

 

[Bhaijaan]

Jews have tremendous love and support for the hindu way of living. Jews admire them immensely and consider them as first class humans.

Ancient Brahmins are generally considered the highest form of humans.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Can Pakistani nukes penetrate the Israeli defence? Probably not Tel Aviv since only Iranian hypersonics were penetrating their AD and I don’t think Pakistan has any hypersonic ballistic missiles but other parts of Israel less defended will get hit for sure.

I’m still not getting why you keep saying Pakistan can only talk big. Pakistan has never threatened Israel in any way. It has only called out Israeli genocide and atrocities.

Your misilles need not have nukes they can have conventional war heads but Pakistan doesn't even use that

If Indian Israeli militarisare rubbish why doesn't Pak army enter gaza or Kashmir? Pakistanis are all noise they pass judgement on other militaries while their own army is more like a corporation selling goods

 

[cricketjoshila]

Can Pakistani nukes penetrate the Israeli defence? Probably not Tel Aviv since only Iranian hypersonics were penetrating their AD and I don’t think Pakistan has any hypersonic ballistic missiles but other parts of Israel less defended will get hit for sure.

I’m still not getting why you keep saying Pakistan can only talk big. Pakistan has never threatened Israel in any way. It has only called out Israeli genocide and atrocities.

Do something other than name calling.

Israel nbombed gaza and pakistsnis posted on pp india removed article 370 in j ank pakistsnis posted on Pp

Anything else youguys can do except making online noise

 

[cricketjoshila]

Joshila the sanghi doesn't understand Israel have the backing from USA. Without the protection, Israel may cease to exist (i.e., likely to lose a war very quickly).

Both India and Israel have rubbish militaries. Only difference is Israel have the backing of USA. India don't. This is why India lost 38,000 sq km territory to China and 5-7 jets to Pakistan.

Ukraine has us support they are getting obliterated.

Bangladeshi s should not even talk about war and armies. Your independence war was fought by indian army you guys were fleeing s genocide. So don't talk big.you have no ability to fight.

 

[Boyka]

Do something other than name calling.

Israel nbombed gaza and pakistsnis posted on pp india removed article 370 in j ank pakistsnis posted on Pp

Anything else youguys can do except making online noise

What did India do against five times smaller Pakistan? Barely laid a glove on them and your little tidbit generals were forced to cover up by the government.

And what did Israel do for Hindus that you are up their behinds? Latching onto anyone or anything that hides your insecurities.

Pakistan is miles away from Israel, if it were up to the people they’d be at war defending the Palestinians.

Saffron Indians are some of the most intellectually deficient people, I’ve not seen one who’s even remotely intelligent. It’s tiresome to even engage with you.

 

[Patriot]

Your misilles need not have nukes they can have conventional war heads but Pakistan doesn't even use that

If Indian Israeli militarisare rubbish why doesn't Pak army enter gaza or Kashmir? Pakistanis are all noise they pass judgement on other militaries while their own army is more like a corporation selling goods

Duel use ballistics is a terrible idea. It’s inviting a nuclear strike back at you.

There is no technology that can detect if a ballistic is conventional or nuclear until after it hits. Therefore, no country will ever sit back and do nothing if a missile has been launched that is known to be used for nuclear strikes. It will retaliate by launching its own nukes even if the missile has had its nuclear warhead replaced.

All Pakistani missiles that can reach Israel are nuclear and all of its conventional missiles don’t have the range because Pakistan tends to have short range conventional missiles for India. Pakistan would need to build long range ballistics that are conventional that can reach Israel. It can do this but chooses not to since Pakistan’s focus is only India.

 

[Patriot]

Your misilles need not have nukes they can have conventional war heads but Pakistan doesn't even use that

If Indian Israeli militarisare rubbish why doesn't Pak army enter gaza or Kashmir? Pakistanis are all noise they pass judgement on other militaries while their own army is more like a corporation selling goods

I didn’t say India and Israel’s militaries are rubbish so not sure where you got that from. I simply said that neither Pakistan nor India have the ability for power projection and only the US does.

How is the Pakistani army supposed to enter Gaza? Please explain the logistics. It will need Amphibious Assault Ships which it doesn’t have. It will need forward basis in Jordan, etc., which it doesn’t have and Jordan won’t allow. It will need support ships and many other requirements which it doesn’t have.

As for Kashmir, Pakistan could enter Kashmir and let’s say Pakistan takes Kashmir which is near impossible since there are 500,000 India troops in Kashmir, India will see this as a threat sufficient to launch nukes due to it’s sovereignty being threatened.

Pakistan is not going to take Gaza or Kashmir. If any Pakistani says so then they are not looking at the situation objectively.

But let me assure you that the Pakistani military is not just for show. Its doctrine is defence not offence so, attack Pakistan at your peril.

 

[Patriot]

Do something other than name calling.

Israel nbombed gaza and pakistsnis posted on pp india removed article 370 in j ank pakistsnis posted on Pp

Anything else youguys can do except making online noise

I’m not sure what else you are expecting online? People on forums make online noise. That’s what everyone does. Are you a moron?

 

[cricketjoshila]

I’m not sure what else you are expecting online? People on forums make online noise. That’s what everyone does. Are you a moron?

What is the basis ofsych big online talk when on the ground Pakistan can’t do anything. Talk should match ability

 

[cricketjoshila]

Ability zero talk 10000 thTs Pakistan

 

[IMMY69]

Ability zero talk 10000 thTs Pakistan

I rest my case ^

 

[cricketjoshila]

I rest my case ^

24 7 talking about gaza and kashmir big chest thumping on nukes but on ground nothing

 

[cricketjoshila]

Few weeks back asim Munir was threatening the world with nukes but when it comes to to real life situation he just shuts up and let Pakistani s do big talk onnline.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I didn’t say India and Israel’s militaries are rubbish so not sure where you got that from. I simply said that neither Pakistan nor India have the ability for power projection and only the US does.

How is the Pakistani army supposed to enter Gaza? Please explain the logistics. It will need Amphibious Assault Ships which it doesn’t have. It will need forward basis in Jordan, etc., which it doesn’t have and Jordan won’t allow. It will need support ships and many other requirements which it doesn’t have.

As for Kashmir, Pakistan could enter Kashmir and let’s say Pakistan takes Kashmir which is near impossible since there are 500,000 India troops in Kashmir, India will see this as a threat sufficient to launch nukes due to it’s sovereignty being threatened.

Pakistan is not going to take Gaza or Kashmir. If any Pakistani says so then they are not looking at the situation objectively.

But let me assure you that the Pakistani military is not just for show. Its doctrine is defence not offence so, attack Pakistan at your peril.

You call other militaries ribbish what has your own military done?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Duel use ballistics is a terrible idea. It’s inviting a nuclear strike back at you.

There is no technology that can detect if a ballistic is conventional or nuclear until after it hits. Therefore, no country will ever sit back and do nothing if a missile has been launched that is known to be used for nuclear strikes. It will retaliate by launching its own nukes even if the missile has had its nuclear warhead replaced.

All Pakistani missiles that can reach Israel are nuclear and all of its conventional missiles don’t have the range because Pakistan tends to have short range conventional missiles for India. Pakistan would need to build long range ballistics that are conventional that can reach Israel. It can do this but chooses not to since Pakistan’s focus is only India.

Warheads can be changed on any missile it the warhead thatss nuclear or conventional uou change the warhead and a nuclear missile becomes a conventional weapon

 

[cricketjoshila]

I didn’t say India and Israel’s militaries are rubbish so not sure where you got that from. I simply said that neither Pakistan nor India have the ability for power projection and only the US does.

How is the Pakistani army supposed to enter Gaza? Please explain the logistics. It will need Amphibious Assault Ships which it doesn’t have. It will need forward basis in Jordan, etc., which it doesn’t have and Jordan won’t allow. It will need support ships and many other requirements which it doesn’t have.

As for Kashmir, Pakistan could enter Kashmir and let’s say Pakistan takes Kashmir which is near impossible since there are 500,000 India troops in Kashmir, India will see this as a threat sufficient to launch nukes due to it’s sovereignty being threatened.

Pakistan is not going to take Gaza or Kashmir. If any Pakistani says so then they are not looking at the situation objectively.

But let me assure you that the Pakistani military is not just for show. Its doctrine is defence not offence so, attack Pakistan at your peril.

India willnot launch nukes unless Pakistan uses a nuke or chemical or bio weapon

 

[Boyka]

India willnot launch nukes unless Pakistan uses a nuke or chemical or bio weapon

News for you, Pakistan won’t either.

 

[Patriot]

You call other militaries ribbish what has your own military done?

Do you have reading issues? My first sentence in the post that you quoted starts with I didn’t call the Indian and Israeli militaries rubbish lol.

 

[Patriot]

Warheads can be changed on any missile it the warhead thatss nuclear or conventional uou change the warhead and a nuclear missile becomes a conventional weapon

Now I know you have reading and comprehension issues since my post went over your low IQ’d mind.

Yes warheads can be changed moron. No doubt about that but please enlighten us all on what technology is out there that will tell that the warhead has been changed? The only way to tell is to either intercept the missile and examine it or it hits and you find out. No one is going to take that change and will retaliate with their own nukes.

 

[Patriot]

India willnot launch nukes unless Pakistan uses a nuke or chemical or bio weapon

Yeah I don’t think so. India will launch a nuke if it thinks Pakistan has launched a missile that typically has a nuclear warhead, even where it doesn’t know that Pakistan has sneakily replaced the warhead with a conventional one. That’s why I said dual-use missiles are extremely dangerous because the enemy won’t know which warhead it contains.

India will also most likely launch a nuke even where Pakistan hasn’t launched a nuke, etc. if Pakistan say hypothetically destroys a lot of it’s military infrastructure such as all of its airbases. In that case India won’t have the option but to escalate and use nukes. That’s what most countries would do that have nukes. Imagine the US destroying all of Russian airbases, I guarantee you there will be nuclear war. The same if China does the same to the US. No nuclear power is going to allow that to happen without massive retaliation.

 

[cricketjoshila]

News for you, Pakistan won’t either.

News for you

India has a official no first use doctrine

Pakistan haa such a doctrine please provide appropriate reference

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yeah I don’t think so. India will launch a nuke if it thinks Pakistan has launched a missile that typically has a nuclear warhead, even where it doesn’t know that Pakistan has sneakily replaced the warhead with a conventional one. That’s why I said dual-use missiles are extremely dangerous because the enemy won’t know which warhead it contains.

India will also most likely launch a nuke even where Pakistan hasn’t launched a nuke, etc. if Pakistan say hypothetically destroys a lot of it’s military infrastructure such as all of its airbases. In that case India won’t have the option but to escalate and use nukes. That’s what most countries would do that have nukes. Imagine the US destroying all of Russian airbases, I guarantee you there will be nuclear war. The same if China does the same to the US. No nuclear power is going to allow that to happen without massive retaliation.

Pre emptive nuke strike is extremely unlikely.

The missile india intercepted during recent clashes could have been a nuke but India didn’t launch a nuke

India’s doctrine has changed after achieving complete nuclear deterrence over Pakistan indias focus is not missile defence systems

 

[Major]

News for you, Pakistan won’t either.

Pakistan has a policy that they will use Nuke as their first attack.

Pakistan's policy is that if India launches a conventional attack, Pakistan will respond with a Nuclear first, because we lack the capibilities for conventional warefare.

 

[Hitman]

You call other militaries ribbish what has your own military done?

93,000 .....

 

[cricketjoshila]

93,000 .....

Surrendered

That’s humiliation

 

[BouncerGuy]

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