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Israel India love affair - Is it mutual or just one-sided?

Do people in Israel like Indians too?

  • Yes, they share the same feelings as Indian Hindus

    Votes: 1 3.6%

  • No, they don't care much about Indians

    Votes: 27 96.4%
  • Total voters
    28
IMMY69 said:
A the families of a million Iraq's will say otherwise
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I'am talking about Religious disputes not Geo-political. and the Iraqi's are no saints at all. Lookup Chemical Ali and what they did to the Kurdish people.
 
Romali_rotti said:
This is your problem ongoing victimhood.

I do not hate ppl of any religion, I dislike things they do...

Look at what you converts have done in Pakistan and Bangladesh, you are an absolute disaster... This is not bigotry or hatred from me, this is reality, when will you wake up...
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This is, ironically, a textbook self own.

You insist you don’t hate Muslims, yet you repeatedly use the term “convert” to describe Muslims from India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh, as if it were a defining trait rather than a historical fact. That word is not neutral in this context. It is a well documented Hindutva dog whistle, deliberately used to imply inferiority, illegitimacy, and a hierarchy of belonging. It functions no differently than caste labels once did, Dalit being the most obvious parallel, designed to signal who is “lesser” without openly saying it.

That is precisely why this is bigotry, it has become so normalized for you that you don’t even recognize it as prejudice anymore. When bias turns into reflex, it feels like common sense to the person expressing it. But denial doesn’t erase behavior, and intent is irrelevant when the pattern is this consistent.

As for Pakistan and Bangladesh, your implication that their societies are somehow diminished because of being “converts” collapses under basic reality. People from both countries have repeatedly demonstrated that, when given functional institutions and fair environments, they succeed economically, academically, and professionally across the world. Your failure to understand geopolitics, state formation, and post colonial outcomes is not evidence of their inferiority, it’s evidence of your analytical limitation.

You are free to deny all of this. But denial doesn’t conceal patterns, language, or subtext. What you’re expressing isn’t neutral criticism or historical observation, it’s Hindutva ideology operating on autopilot.

If you want to be taken seriously, start by interrogating your own language. Until then, this isn’t analysis. It’s inherited prejudice dressed up as opinion.
 
HalBass9 said:
This is, ironically, a textbook self own.

You insist you don’t hate Muslims, yet you repeatedly use the term “convert” to describe Muslims from India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh, as if it were a defining trait rather than a historical fact. That word is not neutral in this context. It is a well documented Hindutva dog whistle, deliberately used to imply inferiority, illegitimacy, and a hierarchy of belonging. It functions no differently than caste labels once did, Dalit being the most obvious parallel, designed to signal who is “lesser” without openly saying it.

That is precisely why this is bigotry, it has become so normalized for you that you don’t even recognize it as prejudice anymore. When bias turns into reflex, it feels like common sense to the person expressing it. But denial doesn’t erase behavior, and intent is irrelevant when the pattern is this consistent.

As for Pakistan and Bangladesh, your implication that their societies are somehow diminished because of being “converts” collapses under basic reality. People from both countries have repeatedly demonstrated that, when given functional institutions and fair environments, they succeed economically, academically, and professionally across the world. Your failure to understand geopolitics, state formation, and post colonial outcomes is not evidence of their inferiority, it’s evidence of your analytical limitation.

You are free to deny all of this. But denial doesn’t conceal patterns, language, or subtext. What you’re expressing isn’t neutral criticism or historical observation, it’s Hindutva ideology operating on autopilot.

If you want to be taken seriously, start by interrogating your own language. Until then, this isn’t analysis. It’s inherited prejudice dressed up as opinion.
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I already pointed out that the Aussie overlords he bootlicks are as much converts as Pakistanis and Bangladeshis. Also immigrants at that. Yet this numpty is happy to brag about assimilating with these converts and thinks it is a point of pride. :apology
 
HalBass9 said:
As for Pakistan and Bangladesh, your implication that their societies are somehow diminished because of being “converts” collapses under basic reality. People from both countries have repeatedly demonstrated that, when given functional institutions and fair environments, they succeed economically, academically, and professionally across the world. Your failure to understand geopolitics, state formation, and post colonial outcomes is not evidence of their inferiority, it’s evidence of your analytical limitation.
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What you said above is what concerns me the most. It seems you are in a state of trance or denial whichever you want to call it.

Lets take Pakistanis away from Pakistan and place them in UK, and you get the below (Not all) but significant enough to make an impact..

- Crime, Grooming Gangs,
- Poor assimilation into the society,
- Islamic extremism,
- Cousin marriages creating handicapped children which burdens the welfare system,



It is clear to me you will live in your victimhood and never right the ship be it in Pakistan or as an overseas Pakistani, it is what it is.
 
Romali_rotti said:
What you said above is what concerns me the most. It seems you are in a state of trance or denial whichever you want to call it.

Lets take Pakistanis away from Pakistan and place them in UK, and you get the below (Not all) but significant enough to make an impact..

- Crime, Grooming Gangs,
- Poor assimilation into the society,
- Islamic extremism,
- Cousin marriages creating handicapped children which burdens the welfare system,



It is clear to me you will live in your victimhood and never right the ship be it in Pakistan or as an overseas Pakistani, it is what it is.
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i think you need to look at the indians in the UK, if you think its any diffeerent - then your not the smartest = you read too much fake indian news
 
Romali_rotti said:
What you said above is what concerns me the most. It seems you are in a state of trance or denial whichever you want to call it.

Lets take Pakistanis away from Pakistan and place them in UK, and you get the below (Not all) but significant enough to make an impact..

- Crime, Grooming Gangs,
- Poor assimilation into the society,
- Islamic extremism,
- Cousin marriages creating handicapped children which burdens the welfare system,



It is clear to me you will live in your victimhood and never right the ship be it in Pakistan or as an overseas Pakistani, it is what it is.
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1. grooming is a form of pedophilia. a specific subset of the crime is used as a dog whistle to provide bigots like you with ammunition against british pakistanis. ive countered this issue multiple times over the years. also no indian should ever use sexual predation as dogwhistle against a racial group, stones and glass houses.

2. poor assimilation, yet british pakistanis are more represented in politics, team sports at national level, general popular culture (actors, singers, etc) than any other group of asians. again you take issues relating to certain communities which suffer fundamentally from economic deprivation due to the areas they live in, much like white or other non-pakistani communities in those areas, and then extrapolate the trends to poorly justify your bigoted views.

3. the UK has more than a million people of pakistani descent, and around 4 million muslims in general, if religious extremism was endemic to british pakistanis you would have multiple stats to back it up, yet apart from a tiny minority who skew the numbers in a small dataset, there is significantly weakening trend of islamic extremism and where it does happen the common theme isnt radicalisation in the community or family, but individuals getting radicalised online, alone. all data shows social marginalisation and other factors contribute to extremism far more than being from a specific ethnic group.

4. british pakistanis drink far less than other groups, so they pick up a tab for a burden another group of society put on the NHS. the effect on cousin marriages on genetic issues is no different to age related, alcohol or smoking related, or other behavioural traits which arent radicalised. the point your making is irrelevant since you dont understand that within a socialised healthcare system there will always be unique groups who bring unique burdens upon a health service. you either police everyones behaviour, or you dont, you dont make moral judgements about another for political point scoring.

the reason you have targeted the british pakistani community in general is because theres an industry which is designed to provide dogwhislte content to people like you, racists who want to justify their own misplaced sense of superiority over one group to handle your insecurities in relation to another.
 
ElRaja said:
1. grooming is a form of pedophilia. a specific subset of the crime is used as a dog whistle to provide bigots like you with ammunition against british pakistanis. ive countered this issue multiple times over the years. also no indian should ever use sexual predation as dogwhistle
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UMm what ? lol. Pakistanis are recognized as the main culprits involved in the grooming gangs out of all the sub continental community, this is no gun to the head against Pakistanis or a targeting, it is a fact. Stop playing the victim, also where did I say Indians were without problems> never gave them a clean chit. You totally deflected an issue that is prevalent in the UK and tried to wiff you way around, nice try...
ElRaja said:
against a racial group, stones and glass houses.

2. poor assimilation, yet british pakistanis are more represented in politics, team sports at national level, general popular culture (actors, singers, etc) than any other group of asians. again you take issues relating to certain communities which suffer fundamentally from economic deprivation due to the areas they live in, much like white or other non-pakistani communities in those areas, and then extrapolate the trends to poorly justify your bigoted views.
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Yes Pakistanis are represented in British politics, one great example is Tahir Ali, MP for Birmingham, nice article below have a read:

"Which people do you serve again? Fury as Labour MP in British city piled high with rubbish requests new airport is built... in Kashmir"​

www.dailymail.co.uk

Labour MP in rubbish ridden city requests new airport built in Kashmir

Tahir Ali, Labour MP for Birmingham which has been plagued with bin strikes and piled high with rubbish, has backed calls for a new airport to be built in Kashmir.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

Example on PP, speaking to Captain Rishwat here, the kid grown up in the comfort of UK and openly admits he has not assimilated into his society, apparently per him he doesn't 'sell out' or something along those lines a while back is his logic. This attitude is quite prevalent with British Pakistanis and NO not all Pakistanis but the issue is present.

It is not bigotry, Hindutva or PM Modi, you need to block out the noise this has nothing to do with the nonsense you keep repeating. Stop the victim mentality and making excuses for all your issues.


ElRaja said:
3. the UK has more than a million people of pakistani descent, and around 4 million muslims in general, if religious extremism was endemic to british pakistanis you would have multiple stats to back it up, yet apart from a tiny minority who skew the numbers in a small dataset, there is significantly weakening trend of islamic extremism and where it does happen the common theme isnt radicalisation in the community or family, but individuals getting radicalised online, alone. all data shows social marginalisation and other factors contribute to extremism far more than being from a specific ethnic group.
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Yeah of course bud only a small number of Pakistanis cause major issues, such as;

  • 7/7 London Bombings (2005): Three of the four suicide bombers who carried out the July 7 attacks were young British men of Pakistani origin who had traveled to Pakistan for training.
  • London Bridge Attack (2019): Usman Khan, a 28-year-old convicted terrorist whose family hailed from Pakistan-administered Kashmir, carried out a knife attack in central London while on licence.
  • "Crevice" Plot (2004): Planned in parallel to the 7/7 attacks, this plot to bomb targets in the UK involved British extremists with links to al-Qaeda members in Pakistan.
  • Transatlantic Aircraft Plot (2006): A major thwarted plot involved individuals connected to Pakistan, which led to significant changes in airport security.
  • Other Individuals: Individuals such as Rangzieb Ahmed, identified as an al-Qaeda operative, and extremist preacher Anjem Choudary have been involved in terrorist activities, with many cases directly linked to extremist networks in Pakistan.

When you compare with other communities from the sub continent in the UK, Pakistanis are the ones that causes the major concern...


ElRaja said:
4. british pakistanis drink far less than other groups, so they pick up a tab for a burden another group of society put on the NHS. the effect on cousin marriages on genetic issues is no different to age related, alcohol or smoking related, or other behavioural traits which arent radicalised. the point your making is irrelevant since you dont understand that within a socialised healthcare system there will always be unique groups who bring unique burdens upon a health service. you either police everyones behaviour, or you dont, you dont make moral judgements about another for political point scoring.

the reason you have targeted the british pakistani community in general is because theres an industry which is designed to provide dogwhislte content to people like you, racists who want to justify their own misplaced sense of superiority over one group to handle your insecurities in relation to another.
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Well that's nice, Pakistanis drink less for all the issues they cause, ahh the redemption lol and you know what here: congrats you have done something good, credit where it is due....Cousin marriages are wrong it is incest, be it Indian, Pakistani or any other nationality and it can bring future generations with potential mental handicaps...

All I see from your post is nothing but finger pointing, deflecting tactics and refusing to recognize your problems, that is just the way you are. As I told my dude Halbass earlier; you are in a state of trance/denial which is why your country Pakistan will never be redeemed and lost forever....
 
Interesting developments.

India about to enter Middle Eastern geopolitcs as security guarenter to UAE, effectively paving way for the realization of the United Sanatani States of Arabia (USSA). Through this bloc, Sanatanis and indigenous Arabic population can work coordially with the Jews who remain friends of Sanatan due to the sacred doctrine of HinJew.
 
Countries that will receive USSA invitation in the first phase :-
  • UAE
  • Oman
  • Bahrain
  • Kuwait
Phase 2
  • Saudia
  • Qatar
  • Iraq
  • Syria
  • Yemen
  • Lebanon
 
Romali_rotti said:
UMm what ? lol. Pakistanis are recognized as the main culprits involved in the grooming gangs out of all the sub continental community, this is no gun to the head against Pakistanis or a targeting, it is a fact. Stop playing the victim, also where did I say Indians were without problems> never gave them a clean chit. You totally deflected an issue that is prevalent in the UK and tried to wiff you way around, nice try...


Yes Pakistanis are represented in British politics, one great example is Tahir Ali, MP for Birmingham, nice article below have a read:

"Which people do you serve again? Fury as Labour MP in British city piled high with rubbish requests new airport is built... in Kashmir"​

www.dailymail.co.uk

Labour MP in rubbish ridden city requests new airport built in Kashmir

Tahir Ali, Labour MP for Birmingham which has been plagued with bin strikes and piled high with rubbish, has backed calls for a new airport to be built in Kashmir.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

Example on PP, speaking to Captain Rishwat here, the kid grown up in the comfort of UK and openly admits he has not assimilated into his society, apparently per him he doesn't 'sell out' or something along those lines a while back is his logic. This attitude is quite prevalent with British Pakistanis and NO not all Pakistanis but the issue is present.

It is not bigotry, Hindutva or PM Modi, you need to block out the noise this has nothing to do with the nonsense you keep repeating. Stop the victim mentality and making excuses for all your issues.




Yeah of course bud only a small number of Pakistanis cause major issues, such as;

  • 7/7 London Bombings (2005): Three of the four suicide bombers who carried out the July 7 attacks were young British men of Pakistani origin who had traveled to Pakistan for training.
  • London Bridge Attack (2019): Usman Khan, a 28-year-old convicted terrorist whose family hailed from Pakistan-administered Kashmir, carried out a knife attack in central London while on licence.
  • "Crevice" Plot (2004): Planned in parallel to the 7/7 attacks, this plot to bomb targets in the UK involved British extremists with links to al-Qaeda members in Pakistan.
  • Transatlantic Aircraft Plot (2006): A major thwarted plot involved individuals connected to Pakistan, which led to significant changes in airport security.
  • Other Individuals: Individuals such as Rangzieb Ahmed, identified as an al-Qaeda operative, and extremist preacher Anjem Choudary have been involved in terrorist activities, with many cases directly linked to extremist networks in Pakistan.

When you compare with other communities from the sub continent in the UK, Pakistanis are the ones that causes the major concern...




Well that's nice, Pakistanis drink less for all the issues they cause, ahh the redemption lol and you know what here: congrats you have done something good, credit where it is due....Cousin marriages are wrong it is incest, be it Indian, Pakistani or any other nationality and it can bring future generations with potential mental handicaps...

All I see from your post is nothing but finger pointing, deflecting tactics and refusing to recognize your problems, that is just the way you are. As I told my dude Halbass earlier; you are in a state of trance/denial which is why your country Pakistan will never be redeemed and lost forever....
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1. im not deflecting the issue, you are either too stupid to understand the point im making or as i suspect is more likely, simply making an argument in bad faith. you have no interest in the causes, victims or solutions, you raise the issue because its a dogwhistle used to malign an entire ethnic group when its causes are far more nauanced than you will ever admit.

2. the joy of the democratic system is MPs who dont do their job get voted out, yet British politicians end up as the Mayor of one of the most important cities in the world, have occupied some of the highest posts in the government, and continue to represent on both sides of the political divide. you highlighting something as peripheral as that as a sign of non integration just highlights that.

3. one guy in the last fifteen odd years? again, your making my point for me. thanks.

4. im not here to be a moral police on cousin marriages. i dont agree with them, but your singling out pakistanis for the supposed impact on the NHS when different communities have different issues because your out for political point scoring.

i dont need to deflect when the arguments you pose are just regurgitated right wing sound bites, and rather usefully in this instance, disproven by the weakness of your own examples. I am well aware of problems within the British Pakistani community, ive lived in it, but recognise when a racist is out to point score rather than debate the issues, as i said, to soothe their own insecurities im guessing.
 
ElRaja said:
1. im not deflecting the issue, you are either too stupid to understand the point im making or as i suspect is more likely, simply making an argument in bad faith. you have no interest in the causes, victims or solutions, you raise the issue because its a dogwhistle used to malign an entire ethnic group when its causes are far more nauanced than you will ever admit.

2. the joy of the democratic system is MPs who dont do their job get voted out, yet British politicians end up as the Mayor of one of the most important cities in the world, have occupied some of the highest posts in the government, and continue to represent on both sides of the political divide. you highlighting something as peripheral as that as a sign of non integration just highlights that.

3. one guy in the last fifteen odd years? again, your making my point for me. thanks.

4. im not here to be a moral police on cousin marriages. i dont agree with them, but your singling out pakistanis for the supposed impact on the NHS when different communities have different issues because your out for political point scoring.

i dont need to deflect when the arguments you pose are just regurgitated right wing sound bites, and rather usefully in this instance, disproven by the weakness of your own examples. I am well aware of problems within the British Pakistani community, ive lived in it, but recognise when a racist is out to point score rather than debate the issues, as i said, to soothe their own insecurities im guessing.
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Ok bud..

You win, Pakistanis are never the problem, everyone is racist and picking on them for no reason, it is all dog whistle, right wing blah blah...

🤡
 
Bhaijaan said:
Interesting developments.

India about to enter Middle Eastern geopolitcs as security guarenter to UAE, effectively paving way for the realization of the United Sanatani States of Arabia (USSA). Through this bloc, Sanatanis and indigenous Arabic population can work coordially with the Jews who remain friends of Sanatan due to the sacred doctrine of HinJew.
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A Hinjew is what Mike Tyson would call a Hindu.
 
Champ_Pal said:
Says the guy with an Arab name and speaks a language not native to your land. :mv
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Why is this an insult? People have agency and the right to determine what ideology they prefer. Having an Arab name or practising a religion that originated outside South Asia is not inherently insulting.

Individuals and societies have always exercised choice in adopting languages, cultures, and belief systems, and history shows that identities are not fixed or bounded by geography. To frame this as a loss of authenticity misunderstands how cultures evolve over time.

Islam, like Christianity in Europe, can be described as a historically successful ideology in the limited sense that it spread widely, attracted large numbers of adherents, and endured across centuries and regions. It is a far more successful ideology than Hinduism. The fact that Islam originated in Arabia does not delegitimise the identities of those who adopted it elsewhere. Cultural and religious change is a normal feature of human history, and it is neither unusual nor shameful for societies to embrace ideas that did not originate within their immediate geographical boundaries.
 
Patriot said:
Why is this an insult? People have agency and the right to determine what ideology they prefer. Having an Arab name or practising a religion that originated outside South Asia is not inherently insulting.

Individuals and societies have always exercised choice in adopting languages, cultures, and belief systems, and history shows that identities are not fixed or bounded by geography. To frame this as a loss of authenticity misunderstands how cultures evolve over time.

Islam, like Christianity in Europe, can be described as a historically successful ideology in the limited sense that it spread widely, attracted large numbers of adherents, and endured across centuries and regions. It is a far more successful ideology than Hinduism. The fact that Islam originated in Arabia does not delegitimise the identities of those who adopted it elsewhere. Cultural and religious change is a normal feature of human history, and it is neither unusual nor shameful for societies to embrace ideas that did not originate within their immediate geographical boundaries.
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Very glad my ancestor converted/reverted to Islam instead of worshipping rats and trees. Allahu Akbar. Alhamdulillah.

Not sure why these sanghis think it is an insult to convert. Better to convert to truth than to stay with falsehood. :inti
 
 
Look at that Middle Eastern man blocking Indian from getting in, I mean Eastern European Colonizer dual citizenship of Occupied Palestine who thinks he's indigenous to Palestine.

And Indians bootlick these savages and call them their Fhaathers, just shameful. Once they are kicked out of all Occupied Palestine, their best spot to move will be India, they have been kicked out 109 times. India should hand them over a state to live in
 
JaDed said:
Hmm I’m next to that area right now I’m certain they are European Whites not Israelis..which is still an issue but not the same.

And yes already a big issues in local news for us.. now who is that tweet you shared from? Did you verify?

Next time be mindful

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Majority Israelis are European whites, perhaps researching will help. Entire Israeli cabinet looks as eastern European as it gets
 
Kriketer said:
Majority Israelis are European whites, perhaps researching will help. Entire Israeli cabinet looks as eastern European as it gets
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Thats a Hindu temple not a jewish temple, why don’t you research first then speak , I’m in Doon area its next to Rishikesh . Rishikesh is full of white folks practicing Hinduism Yoga
 
Kriketer said:
Majority Israelis are European whites, perhaps researching will help. Entire Israeli cabinet looks as eastern European as it gets
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I saw the video of Modi addressing the israeli parliament, and most of them looked bemused/uncomfortable that he was even giving the address. The only time they showed any approval was when Modi piped up about israel being "de Faaderland". That got a few of them smirking.
 
According to GROK - The video is a news-style montage from Rishikesh's Kirtan Fest 2026 (Feb 13–Mar 22), a Vaishnava devotional chanting event organized under Indradyumna Swami (ISKCON guru).

Jhoot bolo..baar baar jhoot bolo

:klopp
 
Rajdeep said:
According to GROK - The video is a news-style montage from Rishikesh's Kirtan Fest 2026 (Feb 13–Mar 22), a Vaishnava devotional chanting event organized under Indradyumna Swami (ISKCON guru).

Jhoot bolo..baar baar jhoot bolo

:klopp
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Everyone is welcome.... except Indians!! 2026, and Indians are tolerating this!!
 
 
 
Whilst UAE has paid from its own pocket for charter flights to repatriate Israelis like VIPs, the Indians have had to mule around Oman and pay 5-10x the prices to get to India and record crying airport videos as if they've fought at the border.

It's easy to understand the inferiority complex in Indians to seek validation from UAE, Israel et al to feel good- but deep down they're just migrant labour like any other South Asian.
 
Energy said:
Whilst UAE has paid from its own pocket for charter flights to repatriate Israelis like VIPs, the Indians have had to mule around Oman and pay 5-10x the prices to get to India and record crying airport videos as if they've fought at the border.

It's easy to understand the inferiority complex in Indians to seek validation from UAE, Israel et al to feel good- but deep down they're just migrant labour like any other South Asian.
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Is it true UAE is paying for stranded Israelis and not for others? Such an embarrassment they are. No wonder they learned genocidal tricks from Israelis to use them in Sudan
 
Sanghi Bhakts and Israeli Zionists relationship switches in between phaadarland/madarland

 
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Kriketer said:
Sanghi Bhakts and Israeli Zionists relationship switches in between phaadarland/madarland

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That is super embarrassing. If you want to prostrate in front of Jews, just do it in front of a picture of Netenyahu in your home.

Jewish people probably consider that sacred ground which would be contaminated by a Hindu. Do some research before attending.
 
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