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Jasprit Bumrah vs Mohammad Amir [ODI format]

Overall, Bumrah has been more consistent in ODI cricket. In this world cup, they seem to have a similar impact overall. Amir has had more impact with the new ball , Bumrah has been good in the middle overs and the death. Amir's value to Pakistan might actually be more to Pakistan than Bumrah's to India....though this is debatable.
 
Bumrah bd Mohammad Sami would be a good matc up. They have been complementing each other very well
 
Bumrah is a level below the best fast bowlers like Starc, Amir, and Boult.

He is similar to Rabada, Archer and Cummins. Good, but not great.
Aren't you the same guy who said babar and haris sohail are the best middle order partners in the world.
Amir has done well but he is nowhere near the bumrah, taking some more wickets in world cup means zilch.
 
Amir is about as good as Bhuvaneswar Kumar.

Forget Bumrah, Amir isn't even in the league of Mohd Shami.
 
Overall, Bumrah has been more consistent in ODI cricket. In this world cup, they seem to have a similar impact overall. Amir has had more impact with the new ball , Bumrah has been good in the middle overs and the death. Amir's value to Pakistan might actually be more to Pakistan than Bumrah's to India....though this is debatable.

How so? Amir has picked up only 3 wickets before the 20th over, all 3 of which came in the match against Windies.

If anything, Amir has been quite average with the new ball and has been content with getting away with a ER of 4 without picking wickets in the opening spell.

Fun fact: 9 out of Amir's 13 wickets in this WC have come after the 40th over.
 
Amir in his peak > Bumrah in his peak. Currently, Bumrah has a bigger impact compared to Amir.
 
Lol Indian fans are falling for the few trolls over here. Even the trolls know amir is a club level bowler compared to Bumrah yet they are just riling up our fans. Lol
 
Bumrah is definitely a tier ahead of Amir as of now, mainly due to his clear advantage in taking wickets in the powerplay. Amir's current bowling mentality and style would support a bowling line-up that had a great aggressive strike bowler, which Pakistan lack post CT17.

I'll take pre-ban Amir > Bumrah, but that's a huge theoretical.
 
Lol Indian fans are falling for the few trolls over here. Even the trolls know amir is a club level bowler compared to Bumrah yet they are just riling up our fans. Lol

A club level bowler who's most likely going to be at the top of the wickets leaderboard by the end of today. :)))
 
A club level bowler who's most likely going to be at the top of the wickets leaderboard by the end of today. :)))

True but so far, most of his wickets come in the last few overs. Amir has to take early wickets before we can actually say that he’s back in form.
 
A club level bowler who's most likely going to be at the top of the wickets leaderboard by the end of today. :)))

Even Stuart Binny had a good game or two :).. Leading wicket taker when game is already over and batsmen gift wickets slogging for more runs. Team crashes out in group stage. Yea club level really :)

But Pakistani fans are content with mediocrity nowadays so I can understand why you guys are going gaga over a mediocre bowler at best. Nothing else to cheer about. :)
 
Even Stuart Binny had a good game or two :).. Leading wicket taker when game is already over and batsmen gift wickets slogging for more runs. Team crashes out in group stage. Yea club level really :)

But Pakistani fans are content with mediocrity nowadays so I can understand why you guys are going gaga over a mediocre bowler at best. Nothing else to cheer about. :)

What Icc tournament have your world beaters won you?? They nearly lost to Afg yesterday.
 
What Icc tournament have your world beaters won you?? They nearly lost to Afg yesterday.

The way you quoting me everywhere seems like you are one of the few fans who are genuinely hurt by Pakistan cricket right now. Relax brother I was just trolling, amir is actually a good bowler when he wants to be..

Don't be hurt it's just a game few years of structural overhaul and PCT can be a decent team again.
 
The way you quoting me everywhere seems like you are one of the few fans who are genuinely hurt by Pakistan cricket right now. Relax brother I was just trolling, amir is actually a good bowler when he wants to be..

Don't be hurt it's just a game few years of structural overhaul and PCT can be a decent team again.

Hurt? Lol.
I want them to be good but it's only a game at the end of the day.
 
Hurt? Lol.
I want them to be good but it's only a game at the end of the day.

That's what it feels like. Don't take it seriously things will change soon. I wish you best of health in these troubled times :)

Honestly I have always been a fan of amir since 2010 spells, I enjoy watching fast bowling in swinging conditions. It's a disappointment to see him after his comeback minus a few good performances.
 
That's what it feels like. Don't take it seriously things will change soon. I wish you best of health in these troubled times :)

Honestly I have always been a fan of amir since 2010 spells, I enjoy watching fast bowling in swinging conditions. It's a disappointment to see him after his comeback minus a few good performances.

Jeez. You're making it seem like I have a serious illness or something.
Not sure about you but i take cricket as a game and nothing more. So being hurt of a sport is the last thing I'd do
 
A team that was chasing 105, wanted to finish quickly ended up giving their wicket away. Slog over wickets while setting targets have more value? How? No. Isn't he suppose to terrorize batsmen with new ball in English conditions. Cloudy conditions. He hardly did anything with new ball. Did he strike atleast in the middle overs? No. Majority of his wickets him in the last 10 overs except against windies they didn't even have to go to last 10 overs.

Bumrah averages

Tests 21.89
ODI 22.50
T20 20.17
First class 24.11
List A 20.63
T20s 22.59

With combination of superb economy rate and strike rate , he is leagues above most bowlers let alone Amir who is just having couple of good matches after god knows how long. Let him remotely show that consistency. let us talk then.

When did I compare both of them in that post? Weren't we just talking about Mohammad Amir's ODI ranking? I never said Jasprit Bumrah is a terrible bowler, why are you telling me about him?
 
Bumrah has bowled well in this world cup bit has not been at his best.Amir has bowled much than him in this world cup but if one has to compare these two bowlers then you would realise that Bumrah is leagues above Amir.
 
Peak Amir was in 2009/10 imo.

These are the stats:

Bowling average: 21.71
Economy: 4.43
Strike Rate: 29.3

He was only 17/18 then. If he had played till he was 23/24 his stats would have looked better.
 
He was only 17/18 then. If he had played till he was 23/24 his stats would have looked better.
He could’ve been an ATG.

This is what Imran Khan said about him when he was caught in the spot-fixing scandal:

‘I’ve seen both Wasim and Aamir when they were 18.

And I assure he (Aamir) is right now ahead of Wasim when he was 18.

Pakistan are in a big mess.’
 
Bumrah is currently the No. 1 ODI bowler in the world and we can all see that those rankings are not a fluke!

Mohammad Amir is number 27 in ODI rankings at the moment, and to some is a shadow of his former self. He has had a lean spell but is currently has 13 wickets to his name so clearly something has improved in him.

Bumrah's expertise is his death bowling, whereas Amir is great in middle overs and later in the innings

Which bowler is better?

We are talking about ODIs here.

I wore this in another thread but it's valid here too.

Amir got 3 wickets against India after India had already made 285 runs.

He got 5 wickets against Australia, 4 of which came after they had already made 277.

He also got 2 wickets against England both of which came after England had already scored 288.

He got 3 against Windies which came in a no pressure match because everybody knew that there's no way Pakistan is defending 105.

So that's 12 out of his 13 wickets.

Amir has been the master of cheap, useless wickets in this WC.

His impact on this WC has been next to nothing. The only significant wicket Amir has taken in this whole WC was of Jos Buttler. That's it. Other than that he has done nothing.
 
Wasim Akram in world cups
55 wickets in 38 matches @ 24, < 1.5 WPM
Zaheer Khan 44 wickets in 23 matches@20
Nearly 2 WPM.
Greats turn up in big tournaments like WC.
 
He could’ve been an ATG.

This is what Imran Khan said about him when he was caught in the spot-fixing scandal:

‘I’ve seen both Wasim and Aamir when they were 18.

And I assure he (Aamir) is right now ahead of Wasim when he was 18.

Pakistan are in a big mess.’


With all due respect to IK, he also said that Inzy was as good as Tendulkar.

Also Amir may have been better than Wasim at 18, doesnot mean he would have been better after 15 years.

Wasim is Wasim not because of what he did as a 17yr old, but because of what he did over a 17yr career.
 
With all due respect to IK, he also said that Inzy was as good as Tendulkar.

Also Amir may have been better than Wasim at 18, doesnot mean he would have been better after 15 years.

Wasim is Wasim not because of what he did as a 17yr old, but because of what he did over a 17yr career.

I respect your opinion.

Agree with your comments.
 
Let’s dig in some Test and T20’s stats, shall we?

Certainly.

51 test wickets at an avg of 29. Pretty average figures.

But that's not even the point. The point is 7 matches is not a "peak". Not for Amir. Not for anyone.
 
What was peak Amir? What were his stats? How many wickets and what avg and SR?

Amir's 2010 performance be it in helpful conditions were right there with the very best. Although it was only 2 series in very helpful conditions yet the bowling was best ever spectacle in 2010-2020. Really pleasing to the eye seeing such high quality bowling.

Other than that he has been mediocre and I will rate him below Bhuvi, Shami and even Ishant in tests+loi's.
 
Amir's 2010 performance be it in helpful conditions were right there with the very best. Although it was only 2 series in very helpful conditions yet the bowling was best ever spectacle in 2010-2020. Really pleasing to the eye seeing such high quality bowling.

Other than that he has been mediocre and I will rate him below Bhuvi, Shami and even Ishant in tests+loi's.

Exactly!

I have never understood the Amir hype. His entire legacy is built on those 2 series in 2009/10. Both were played in England (one of which wasn't even against a home side), in the most seamer friendly conditions. He averaged 45+ outside of those 2 series, btw.

Apart from that his legacy is built on just 1 match - 2017 CT final. The same tournament in which he had just 1 wicket in 3 matches at an avg of 70+ until the final where the batsmen gave him the opportunity to pick up cheap wickets and emerge as a "hero".

Amir is the most overrated Pakistani player of the decade. If other bowlers like Shinwari and Junaid received the kind of special treatment that Amir has been enjoying, they would have achieved so much more by now.
 
Exactly!

I have never understood the Amir hype. His entire legacy is built on those 2 series in 2009/10. Both were played in England (one of which wasn't even against a home side), in the most seamer friendly conditions. He averaged 45+ outside of those 2 series, btw.

Apart from that his legacy is built on just 1 match - 2017 CT final. The same tournament in which he had just 1 wicket in 3 matches at an avg of 70+ until the final where the batsmen gave him the opportunity to pick up cheap wickets and emerge as a "hero".

Amir is the most overrated Pakistani player of the decade. If other bowlers like Shinwari and Junaid received the kind of special treatment that Amir has been enjoying, they would have achieved so much more by now.

But those 2 performances are one of the best displays of bowling in history of cricket for viewing audience.

I still watch that spell on YouTube it was just beautiful display of bowling. If you like fast bowling more than batting that spell is right up there with shoaib's deliveries to sachin/dravid, waqar's toe crushers or Wasims double swing as the best ever to watch as fans.

There might be better spells delivered by McGrath, steyn,broad, bond etc but they weren't as pleasing to watch as the ones I mentioned above.

Thats why he was hyped people thought he will bowl like this always but then fixing happened and that's about it. After returning he is mediocre with once in a blue moon good performance.
 
Exactly!

I have never understood the Amir hype. His entire legacy is built on those 2 series in 2009/10. Both were played in England (one of which wasn't even against a home side), in the most seamer friendly conditions. He averaged 45+ outside of those 2 series, btw.

Apart from that his legacy is built on just 1 match - 2017 CT final. The same tournament in which he had just 1 wicket in 3 matches at an avg of 70+ until the final where the batsmen gave him the opportunity to pick up cheap wickets and emerge as a "hero".

Amir is the most overrated Pakistani player of the decade. If other bowlers like Shinwari and Junaid received the kind of special treatment that Amir has been enjoying, they would have achieved so much more by now.

:)))
Did you just read that single line and black out??

At least read the whole thing.
 
I wore this in another thread but it's valid here too.

Amir got 3 wickets against India after India had already made 285 runs.

He got 5 wickets against Australia, 4 of which came after they had already made 277.

He also got 2 wickets against England both of which came after England had already scored 288.

He got 3 against Windies which came in a no pressure match because everybody knew that there's no way Pakistan is defending 105.

So that's 12 out of his 13 wickets.

Amir has been the master of cheap, useless wickets in this WC.

His impact on this WC has been next to nothing. The only significant wicket Amir has taken in this whole WC was of Jos Buttler. That's it. Other than that he has done nothing.

Not to mention that Kohli basically gifted him his wicket.
 
:)))
Did you just read that single line and black out??

At least read the whole thing.

I picked out the point I wanted to raise. You're free to disagree.

Whether a cricketer is good to watch or not is a very subjective thing. I can't stand to watch Steve Smith bat. Doesn't change the fact that he averages over 60.
 
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Switch teams for both of them, Place Amir in Indian squad and Bumah in Pakistan’s, now let me ask you who is better.
If Amir gets Indian feikd8ng support his numbers would be unbelievable.
 
Don’t think I would trade Amir with any of the three Indian pacers. These guys can do well across different countries.
 
Amir was not even in final xi. His numbers were so bad. He is bowling well because conditions suit him.

I thought it was well documented on PP.
But anything for your countrymen is the theme it seems.
 
Sure getting maximum wickets and maximum runs is more important than winning games for your teams?

I really don’t know why some are not understanding something so simple . An LOI strike bowlers job is to take wickets at a low average , which means keeping it tight ., Amir has done this at the start , middle & end of the innings this World Cup . Bumrah has done better in bilateral series recently but Amir is a big tournament player . He’s been doing well since he was a kid back in 2009 T20 world tournament. Watching him today at Lords from side on showed superb rhythm & flow of the action . He’s not even near his old best but getting there & that’s enough to show when all the worlds best bowlers are involved together he’s up the near the top so far , ahead of Bumrah & most others .

But if India is going to win it & Pakistan knocked out early , Bumrah has no reason to overtake him in the World Cup if he’s that good .
 
Switch teams for both of them, Place Amir in Indian squad and Bumah in Pakistan’s, now let me ask you who is better.
If Amir gets Indian feikd8ng support his numbers would be unbelievable.

No thanks. We are good. We don't need a fixer even if he is going to win us a WC
 
Umesh Yadav @ 2015 WC
18 wkts @ 17
Dale steyn - 11wkts @ 31

So Umesh is better than Steyn ?? :yk
 
Extraordinary to see highest wicket taker of WC at the moment is being referred to as club level bowler by some. :smith
 
No thanks. We are good. We don't need a fixer even if he is going to win us a WC

And yet players who were part of two teams banned in IPL due to fixing are playing in your national team.... Irony
 
And yet players who were part of two teams banned in IPL due to fixing are playing in your national team.... Irony

What a logic. By this logic entire Pakistan team should be banned because a few players were involved in fixing :jimmy
 
Bumrah best bowler. He bowls best in away and home. He best in fielding too.
Only in batting amir >bumrah.
 
Not interested in stats at all. As good as Bumrah is I'd have Amir in my team every time over him.
 
Iam seeing bumrah since he came back to home series against australia,there is no doubt he is bowling good at death overs but he is lacking wicket taking ability,i think mohammad shami is better in terms of taking the wickets.
 
What a logic. By this logic entire Pakistan team should be banned because a few players were involved in fixing :jimmy

If only few players were involved why did the whole teams got suspended from IPL? Normal course of action is to ban just the players who were involved, it was much more than 1-2 players involved in illegal activities.
 
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Why to get frustrate?? India is wining with bowling effort. All our bowlers are doing best.
Batsmen are not taking much risk on bumrah.

They are also not giving wicket on plate to amir .his economy rate is best in first 10 over which is 3.65 every team is not taking risk against amir in his first 4 to 5 overs .Amir is good in first to last spell hence the wicket are coming for him
 
What a joke.

When Indians talk about Bumrah, they cite overall stats, across all formats, but not WC specific. Pakistan mention Amir is the better bowler in the WC, but Indians will not accept.

When Pakistan then talk about Pakistan vs India, overall stats, across all formats, Indians are confine their response to just the WC/streak.

Bottom line, if rankings are to be taken seriously, Bumrah would be the #1 wicket taker in the WC right now, but he is not.
 
What a joke.

When Indians talk about Bumrah, they cite overall stats, across all formats, but not WC specific. Pakistan mention Amir is the better bowler in the WC, but Indians will not accept.

When Pakistan then talk about Pakistan vs India, overall stats, across all formats, Indians are confine their response to just the WC/streak.

Bottom line, if rankings are to be taken seriously, Bumrah would be the #1 wicket taker in the WC right now, but he is not.

Yeah but it's not they both are playing their last worldcup. Bumrah for sure will play 2 more worldcup for india if he stays fit so we can confirm who did well in worldcups when their career are over.
 
They are also not giving wicket on plate to amir .his economy rate is best in first 10 over which is 3.65 every team is not taking risk against amir in his first 4 to 5 overs .Amir is good in first to last spell hence the wicket are coming for him

Bud, no one is answered from two days why amir was not in initial world cup squad.
 
I wore this in another thread but it's valid here too.

Amir got 3 wickets against India after India had already made 285 runs.

He got 5 wickets against Australia, 4 of which came after they had already made 277.

He also got 2 wickets against England both of which came after England had already scored 288.

He got 3 against Windies which came in a no pressure match because everybody knew that there's no way Pakistan is defending 105.

So that's 12 out of his 13 wickets.

Amir has been the master of cheap, useless wickets in this WC.

His impact on this WC has been next to nothing. The only significant wicket Amir has taken in this whole WC was of Jos Buttler. That's it. Other than that he has done nothing.

Disagree.

Cricket is a batsman's game - the batsman has the power to see off bowling knowing there is relief at the end.

With most teams as in the case of India, their bowling depth is quite strong so the batsmen have to take more risks to get runs which automatically result in wickets if you bowl well.

As someone else pointed out, Amir has one of the best economy rates in the first 10 which will tell you that they are just seeing him off and attacking the others. That combined with the fact that he takes wickets at the death is case in point of what I'm saying. When the batsmen are looking to attack he gets wickets.

Not to mention, dropped catches. I havent' seen all the games but I know for a fact Root was dropped off his bowling for example.

I do agree that he could be a tad better in the first 10 to take wickets but considering all of the above it's a bit harsh to call him useless. It's quite laughable if anything!
 
What a joke.

When Indians talk about Bumrah, they cite overall stats, across all formats, but not WC specific. Pakistan mention Amir is the better bowler in the WC, but Indians will not accept.

When Pakistan then talk about Pakistan vs India, overall stats, across all formats, Indians are confine their response to just the WC/streak.

Bottom line, if rankings are to be taken seriously, Bumrah would be the #1 wicket taker in the WC right now, but he is not.

Its as almost you attack them personally if you have a different opinion of one of their cricketers. :warner

We have one chap now trying to respond by bringing up Yadav v Steyn in one world cup. You dont compare those two full stop! Amir and Bumrah are the best bowlers for their nation and are playing right now in the biggest tournament, Bumrah is supposed to be in better form but Amir is outbowling him by a distance.

Amir at his best would be chose over Bumrah at his best in any playing XI. Amir has better skills, it's a simple as this. Bumrah cannot swing the ball anywhere near the standard of Amir, with the new and old ball.
 
It was the owners who were found guilty of breaching betting rules in india. Had nothing to do with the players or fixing for that matter.

If I am not wrong, there was a match between Chennai and Rajhistan where a predetermined score was made which isnt possible without the involvement of players.

Below is the link for you and others. Probing into a match happens with allegation of fixing.

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/...obe-into-csk-vs-rr-match-in-ipl-6-667781.html
 
Amir has done better than Bumrah in world cup till now. But if the thread is about Bumrah vs Amir in ODI format, then Bumrah is better, because he has taken wickets everywhere. whereas Amir as we all know is only good in English conditions.
 
If I am not wrong, there was a match between Chennai and Rajhistan where a predetermined score was made which isnt possible without the involvement of players.

Below is the link for you and others. Probing into a match happens with allegation of fixing.

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/...obe-into-csk-vs-rr-match-in-ipl-6-667781.html


They recommending looking into the match. No player was The facts are no player from either franchise were convicted for match fixing. The owners were prosecuted for betting.
 
I will take our best ever and have him perform all over the world. You can take your I-took-the-most-wickets-in-wc-even-though-its-helps-squat-for-my-team and help him win you matches in England.
 
I wore this in another thread but it's valid here too.

Amir got 3 wickets against India after India had already made 285 runs.

He got 5 wickets against Australia, 4 of which came after they had already made 277.

He also got 2 wickets against England both of which came after England had already scored 288.

He got 3 against Windies which came in a no pressure match because everybody knew that there's no way Pakistan is defending 105.

So that's 12 out of his 13 wickets.

Amir has been the master of cheap, useless wickets in this WC.

His impact on this WC has been next to nothing. The only significant wicket Amir has taken in this whole WC was of Jos Buttler. That's it. Other than that he has done nothing.

So economy in 50 overs game is of no importance?

Also how many wickets have Bumrah taken in his opening spell in ODIs in last two years? I have a feeling stats might surprise many. :smith
 
Comparison is about bumrah and amir so i see your desperation to change the topic.i can feel your pain brother must be very hard to see your best ever fast bowler in history is outperformed by club bowler .Meh that was too easy for amir

I know your healthy debate and mental state when you called amir a club level bowler which truly reflects your knowledge about cricket

I am not getting the mentality of Indian fans here. This type of debate made sense in 90's when we were a minnowish team and our pride depended on proving sachin the best. Pakistan are in a same situation right now, so we should let them have this wovictory. Frankly bumrah has played his role to perfection in every match, and have gone for runs only when the opposition was in a helpless situation. That should be enough for us. He has already won us a series in Australia, and if he won us this world cup and the upcoming test championship I would'nt mind if Pakistani fans rate him lower than wahab riaz.
 
Its as almost you attack them personally if you have a different opinion of one of their cricketers. :warner

We have one chap now trying to respond by bringing up Yadav v Steyn in one world cup. You dont compare those two full stop! Amir and Bumrah are the best bowlers for their nation and are playing right now in the biggest tournament, Bumrah is supposed to be in better form but Amir is outbowling him by a distance.

Amir at his best would be chose over Bumrah at his best in any playing XI. Amir has better skills, it's a simple as this. Bumrah cannot swing the ball anywhere near the standard of Amir, with the new and old ball.

Bumrah's action is his asset, and sooner or later, teams will figure him out. I remember when Saqlain was a beast with his doosra, and lo and behold, once batsman twigged him, he was not as potent as he was. Who knows, but this has been the trends and the best of the best, keep the batsmen guessing in their bowling careers.

What I find more interesting is that many of the so called/self proclaimed oracles of cricket on PP have zero clue. Their assessment relies on nothing but stats when the more discerning followers know that stats are not everything.

A common small print:

Past performance is not an indicator of future performance

This holds true not only in investments, but in sports too. What people fail to realize is that players/teams are only as good as their last performance and there is no guarantee that they will perform in the future. Case in point, the WC.

The WC is a different ball game; different pressure, different dynamics, different stake. Pressure can bring out the worst/best in players/teams. What matters is the performance in the world cup which is why a team having lost the previous 20 ODIs can win the WC because all that matters is the performance in 9 to 11 games. If a bowler has been ineffective in the past 2 years, doesn't matter, what matters is his performance in 9 to 11 games. Conversely a bowler can be successful before the WC, but not fire in 9-11 games. Same goes for a batsman.

It's all about there here and now, and right now, in terms of bowling, Amir is absolutely spot on. Some will say he is defying all odds, but the reality is Amir has more talent than any bowler, and ICC tournaments bring out the best in him. Those 3 deliveries in CT17 final are still talked about on The Times, Telegraph, and The Guardian - because that's all it takes, a few deliveries to cement a legend. No one is going to remember Bumrah's/Amirs stats, but their deliveries in tournaments will be remembered forever.

Amir > DAYLIGHT > Bumrah - in ICC tournaments.
 
Minnow? :)))

Just stop embarrassing yourself.

Comparison is about bumrah and amir so i see your desperation to change the topic.i can feel your pain brother must be very hard to see your best ever fast bowler in history is outperformed by club bowler .Meh that was too easy for amir

I know your healthy debate and mental state when you called amir a club level bowler which truly reflects your knowledge about cricket

Of course you guys are talking like minnow team fans. With the state of PCT right now I can understand why. You guys are minnow levels so your cricketing knowledge is also minnow level.

3 good games and you think he's the number 1 rank bowler in the world :).. that's what minnow fans think they don't value consistency, once in a blue moon they get a good performance from their team or a player and they become so excited they start vent out months if frustration on these forums on such threads :)))))

Banter and trolling aside, Amir needs to perform consistently for a year and if he does then he can be compared to Bumrah or even be considered as better if he actually is :).

Right now its not even a comparison. Just check their numbers since amir returned and you will understand.

If you still think there's a comparison only after 3-4 good matches with number 1 rank bowler in LOI then my assessment of minnow level fanbase proves to be correct :)
 
Minnow? :)))

Just stop embarrassing yourself.

Comparison is about bumrah and amir so i see your desperation to change the topic.i can feel your pain brother must be very hard to see your best ever fast bowler in history is outperformed by club bowler .Meh that was too easy for amir

I know your healthy debate and mental state when you called amir a club level bowler which truly reflects your knowledge about cricket

I am not getting the mentality of Indian fans here. This type of debate made sense in 90's when we were a minnowish team and our pride depended on proving sachin the best. Pakistan are in a same situation right now, so we should let them have this wovictory. Frankly bumrah has played his role to perfection in every match, and have gone for runs only when the opposition was in a helpless situation. That should be enough for us. He has already won us a series in Australia, and if he won us this world cup and the upcoming test championship I would'nt mind if Pakistani fans rate him lower than wahab riaz.

It's fun to troll and banter. No one takes this thread seriously :)
 
They recommending looking into the match. No player was The facts are no player from either franchise were convicted for match fixing. The owners were prosecuted for betting.

Wasnt Dhoni one of the owners of CSK? Also in earlier years 3 of the RR players got banned however they were mediocre players and nobody talked about them. Yes its a crime just like other crimes and its the responsibility of the society to rehabilitate such players and make them a better person along with giving them a chance.

I have no issues with Amir playing for Pakistan and not many around the world as well as can be seen from his support in UK. So poster who was targeting Pakistan cricket team for allowing him to play should check his own backyard. A progressive society is where a young guy can improve from his mistakes.
 
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