Junaid Khan's future?

[ExpressPacer]

I wrote the guy off before the tournament started, inspired by the views of my fellow posters and from what I'd seen of him in the recent past, I didn't want him to be close to the team! And today, after Pakistan have won the Champions Trophy, I have the courage in me to accept that I was wrong. Junaid Khan has been instrumental in Pakistan winning and has often been overshadowed by the likes of Hasan Ali and Amir but he made sure to keep his performances on the zenith.

Be it through the maidens he bowled in almost every other over or the wickets he got, Junaid Khan was spectacular. He deserves to be in the team as much as Hasan Ali and Mohammad Amir. And the fact that he gets to play with Amir is a bonus is because they compliment each other beautifully. This puts the statement "Fast bowlers hunt in pairs" to truth.

Here's to wishing Junaid Khan the very best of luck! Congratulations for getting the venom back and most of all, for winning the Champions Trophy, you champion!

What do you guys think? Should he be replaced by Yamin or which ever "all rounder" you want him to be replaced with?

 

[Eagle_Eye]

I wrote the guy off before the tournament started, inspired by the views of my fellow posters and from what I'd seen of him in the recent past, I didn't want him to be close to the team! And today, after Pakistan have won the Champions Trophy, I have the courage in me to accept that I was wrong. Junaid Khan has been instrumental in Pakistan winning and has often been overshadowed by the likes of Hasan Ali and Amir but he made sure to keep his performances on the zenith.

Be it through the maidens he bowled in almost every other over or the wickets he got, Junaid Khan was spectacular. He deserves to be in the team as much as Hasan Ali and Mohammad Amir. And the fact that he gets to play with Amir is a bonus is because they compliment each other beautifully. This puts the statement "Fast bowlers hunt in pairs" to truth.

Here's to wishing Junaid Khan the very best of luck! Congratulations for getting the venom back and most of all, for winning the Champions Trophy, you champion!

What do you guys think? Should he be replaced by Yamin or which ever "all rounder" you want him to be replaced with?

He is back in form... deserves an extended run if he remains fit. You need 3 genuine seamers, Yamin/fahim fight for the all rounder spot.

 

[ExpressPacer]

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I realise some of you don't like the fact that he's in the team. Has your perception changed?

Does he deserve a chance?

 

[shah_1]

We need to rotate 3rd fast bowler option between him and Ruman Raees continuously.

 

[Mamoon]

Frankly speaking, I have no faith in him at all and I don't trust him. He is the weak-link of this attack.

 

[Asif khan]

He bowled beautifully and deserves a long rope but I'm still not entirely convinced for a few reasons.

1. People are saying he had a pace revival but he was comfortably the slowest bowler between both sides today. His pace had gone from a few years ago and even though he has bowled beautifully with plenty of passion the moment he loses a bit of intensity he will be the weakest link IMHO.

2. In some ways the trio complement each other nicely but at the same time there is a glaring sameness about them in terms of style. Personally, I would look around for a tallish fast bowler to keep them on their toes as well as Raees of course.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I must admit I had given up on him but he looked like the Junaid of old here. We won the last four games because Junaid replaced Wahab, make no mistake about it. He's bowled superbly in this competition and no one can say otherwise.

 

[Last Monetarist]

Is it just me or has that chink in his action become more noticeable since his comeback? I don't remember it being that egregious when he was bowling out India in 2012. I'd definitely want him tested. He's done well, but there's a nagging doubt at the back of my mind. If fellas like Taskin were flagged for chucking, I think Junaid should buck up a little and work on this issue going forward.

 

[ExpressPacer]

He bowled beautifully and deserves a long rope but I'm still not entirely convinced for a few reasons.

1. People are saying he had a pace revival but he was comfortably the slowest bowler between both sides today. His pace had gone from a few years ago and even though he has bowled beautifully with plenty of passion the moment he loses a bit of intensity he will be the weakest link IMHO.

2. In some ways the trio complement each other nicely but at the same time there is a glaring sameness about them in terms of style. Personally, I would look around for a tallish fast bowler to keep them on their toes as well as Raees of course.

I couldn't agree more. He was most definitely the slowest bowler of the lot but the problem here is, his current pace is how fast he was at his peak. I don't understand why fans have built the false perception that Junaid Khan was some 145-150 KPH express bowler. He never was.

When he made his comeback, he'd turned into a military medium bowler but now he's gotten his pace 135-143 KPH pace back, which I think is more than enough as of now. I also concur that he will be the weakest link in the attack but that's possibly because the likes of Amir and Hasan Ali offer no space or ease.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Frankly speaking, I have no faith in him at all and I don't trust him. He is the weak-link of this attack.

You're entitled to your opinion and I respect that. I know your replacement is Rumman Raees and I have faith in him too. Maybe Raees and Junaid can compete for the 3rd seamers spot.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Is it just me or has that chink in his action become more noticeable since his comeback? I don't remember it being that egregious when he was bowling out India in 2012. I'd definitely want him tested. He's done well, but there's a nagging doubt at the back of my mind. If fellas like Taskin were flagged for chucking, I think Junaid should buck up a little and work on this issue going forward.

Taskin and Junaid were on different levels. Taskin is one of my favorite bowlers going around and I make it pretty obvious but the fact is, there was a definite jerk in his action. Junaid's action looks as clean as a whistle to me. If there's something wrong, the umpires are going to make sure they look into it, especially with the stricter rules.

I'm all for the armchair experts but this is going too far.

 

[Last Monetarist]

Taskin and Junaid were on different levels. Taskin is one of my favorite bowlers going around and I make it pretty obvious but the fact is, there was a definite jerk in his action. Junaid's action looks as clean as a whistle to me. If there's something wrong, the umpires are going to make sure they look into it, especially with the stricter rules.

I'm all for the armchair experts but this is going too far.

To each their own, but I see a definite jerk in Junaid's action, on par with Taskin, especially when he attempts to bowl the bouncer. It might be an illusion, but we had this habit of getting defensive when people pointed out Ajmal's flaws. I can't help but turn a blind eye, I'd rather that we were proactive dealing with such potential problems.

 

[Markhor]

Junaid deserves a run on the back of this CT.

However I'm with [MENTION=1002]Asif khan[/MENTION] - I'd like to see a tall quick who can hit the deck hard like Ahmed Bashir or Mohammad Irfan jnr just to give us something different and add variety to the pace attack.

Winning a tournament doesn't mean you stop trying to improve.

 

[ExpressPacer]

To each their own, but I see a definite jerk in Junaid's action, on par with Taskin, especially when he attempts to bowl the bouncer. It might be an illusion, but we had this habit of getting defensive when people pointed out Ajmal's flaws. I can't help but turn a blind eye, I'd rather that we were proactive dealing with such potential problems.

Of course. Like I said, if the umpires or analysts see something wrong, they're going to make sure they make their voices heard. And unfortunately, the likes of Basit Ali don't qualify as analysts.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

I don't want anyone to get dropped unfairly so he deserves his run but there are better younger bowlers available that would immediately strengthen this attack. Someone like Bashir is ready for international cricket.

 

[Tommo]

He's played well all tournament! Give the guy some credit. One has to admit, he's a massive upgrade from Wahab- I would persist with him.

 

[Justcrazy]

He is better suited for Test Cricket.

Ruman is better fielder , and no mug with the bat.

 

[member250]

Looked like old Junaid. He doesn't swing with new ball but reverses with old which is good enough. Question is can he stay fit?

 

[Hawkeye]

He has done well in the CT, contrary to the expectations of most.

But, still not super convinced.

There are others who can come and replace him, but he's obviously going to play the next few series based on these good performances.

Can stay in the team for now.

 

[proud_pakistani]

He has bowled well but he will have more off days than Aamir and Hasan Ali. We need a 4th solid back-up. Im not too convinced with Rumman Raees as the answer either.

 

[TeymurBlake]

I've always kind of had faith in him specially since I saw him. He is a really talented bowler who has been unfortunate with injuries and after the performances in this years Champion's Trophy he deserves an extended run. He finished at No.3 on the leading wicket takers of the tournament so hopefully he will continue in this form.

 

[Deewana]

He was looking extremely mediocre from the other end when amir bowled that magical spell than again most bowlers in the world will

 

[Khwaja]

Junaid has to retire and make room for Mohammed Asif

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Needs to be more consistent throughout his spells.

Needs to keep performing otherwise we got a very smart OD bowler in Rumman Raees who is waiting for a opportunity

 

[Sunzi]

He was looking extremely mediocre from the other end when amir bowled that magical spell than again most bowlers in the world will

But he did his part by bowling tightly.

He's better than Wahab and for that alone should continue to hold a spot in the team until another replacement can be found, although I personally feel that he is better than just a stop-gap replacement for Wahab.

Wahab should now call it a day - I hope the management/administration keeps Wahab out of the team.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

3rd best Pacer of Champions Trophy and....

Some shameless comments.

 

[Sunzi]

3rd best Pacer of Champions Trophy and....

Some shameless comments.

Exactly.

He has been instrumental in one way or another and is more reliable than Wahab who is a complete liability.

 

[coy0607]

Junaid was brilliant in the CT, but i don't have a lot of faith in him long term.

his health will always be an issue, and he has the tendency to lose his control and go the Wahab way. I like the idea of building a bench, especially as more and more talent is being identified from the PSL

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Exactly.

He has been instrumental in one way or another and is more reliable than Wahab who is a complete liability.

Before CT in last 3 years Junaid had a bowling Ave of 57, SR of 60 & Eco of 6.2


In CT Junaid had bowling Ave of 19, SR of 25 & Eco of 4.58



This is Massive Massive improvememt.



1. Hasan
2. Hazlewood
3. Junaid

 

[Sunzi]

Before CT in last 3 years Junaid had a bowling Ave of 57, SR of 60 & Eco of 6.2


In CT Junaid had bowling Ave of 19, SR of 25 & Eco of 4.58



This is Massive Massive improvememt.



1. Hasan
2. Hazlewood
3. Junaid

Preaching to the choir pal.

For me, Junaid's spot is safe until we can unearth another pacer. We need to move away from the likes of Wahab; he is not good enough to play for Pakistan.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Junaid has proved most of us wrong here. Once, he replaced Wahab, Pakistani bowling improved tremendously.

 

[Rayyman]

Man we are so blessed. These three guys: Amir, Junaid and Hasan will most likely end up as some of the best fast bowlers to ever play for Pakistan in ODIs.

And they are all in the same team right now.

Alhamdulillah.

 

[PakHammer]

The best thing that happened with Junaid is when Umar Akmal got sent back home so he could go ahead at the tournament with a clear mind.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

He deserves an extended run.

 

[CricFan2012]

Before CT in last 3 years Junaid had a bowling Ave of 57, SR of 60 & Eco of 6.2


In CT Junaid had bowling Ave of 19, SR of 25 & Eco of 4.58



This is Massive Massive improvememt.



1. Hasan
2. Hazlewood
3. Junaid

Bro what do you think about his action? Some say it looks suspicious

 

[Hasan123]

Deserves an extended run in the team.

 

[MMHS]

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I realise some of you don't like the fact that he's in the team. Has your perception changed?

Does he deserve a chance?

As I wrote last time - as long as Umpires are happy, he should be an automatic choice in XI. It was blasphemous to drop him in 1st match for Wahab, knowing his record against Kohli with new ball.

 

[shaz619]

He has earned a long run based on the fact that he played a pivotal role in our CT win! What a champion, he has been through a lot and to make a succesful comeback just goes to show how strong and resillient he is. Umar Akmal should be ashamed. This is how you prove your critics wrong through something called a work ethic

 

[Boi]

Still isn't the Junaid of old. That pace really isn't there but his accuracy has been decent and he's manage to get some movement which is good. Let's see if he can bulk up a bit and put on that extra yard of pace again or not.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Just like a batsmen is due a poor outing after a bunch of good scores, bowlers too have off days. Junaid has been brilliant this far but if he does have a poor showing in the future, it is not the end of the world. He usually has good games and that's what matters.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Bro what do you think about his action? Some say it looks suspicious

He is not clean completely but He might very well be within 15 degrees if tested.

Umpires haven't even reported him so they are fine with him.

 

[Syed1]

Was brilliant in the tournament and shut-up the naysayers and PP biomechanic experts in no time. Junaid's inclusion was what turned around Pakistan's tournament. It meant that we actually had a fast bowler who can attack from the other end and help Amir out, instead of bowling Imad.


Some people don't realize that Junaid is the perfect counterfoil for Amir. When Amir was running rampant at the other end today, Junaid had figures of 3 overs for 7 runs which included one lucky top edged boundary. Now this is the pressure that was building up on India as they searched for runs.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Just like a batsmen is due a poor outing after a bunch of good scores, bowlers too have off days. Junaid has been brilliant this far but if he does have a poor showing in the future, it is not the end of the world. He usually has good games and that's what matters.

Plz bump the thread which had title something like this " which particular selection of CT squad you are most unhappy with "

I am unable to find that.


Need to eat a humble pie and accept how he has proven me so wrong MashaAllah for which he deserves loads of accolades.


I criticised him selection more than anyone else and He has proved that he is here to stay.


Camp will revive his fitness and pacs further. I.A

 

[New Yorker]

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I realise some of you don't like the fact that he's in the team. Has your perception changed?

Does he deserve a chance?

Third highest wicket taker in the tourney. He exceeded my expectations by far. And of course he has earned a spot. But like everyone else he has to keep performing. Let's not go back to this policy where you earn a spot because of some performance 3 years ago. I think there is more talent where Hasan, Fakhar and Sahdab came from. Future is exciting.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Don't know what posters here want from him!! The guy was the third leading wicket taker of the tournament at 19 average, took wickets consistently, got his pace back up, reignite his ability to bowl at death, all after having been through so much. He was harshly treated by PCB after that SL tour in 2015, when he was not at his best and was discarded apparently forever. Even Inzi gave him stick discrediting his performances in BPL last year. Yet he managed to get a decent showing when Wahab Riaz would always get the preferential treatment and would be the first pick the first match of last 3 ODI series. Confidence is the key for a pacer, and he was never given that.

He was given a lot of stick by everyone, but he came back stronger. I am completely sure if he wasn't there in the games against SL, RSA, ENG, we would not have won it. He has made this engine of our team work smoothly and has given sarfraz a breathing room with his control. He knows how to take wickets, which is something Wahab was never able to do so.

With some power training, which helped Bhuvneshwar get his pace up by almost 15 kph, he can be as quick as Amir hopefully. I trust Azhar Mahmood, he will take him to another level IA.

 

[aloo paratha]

He deserves a spot in the team, he's done really well this tournament.

 

[sshakir411]

Junked is here to stay. He's had a rough comeback but glad to see him back to his best. I thought he bowled beautifully in the beginning today. He will only get better from here and Azhar Mahmoud is the right guy to work with.

 

[Leeon1994]

To each their own, but I see a definite jerk in Junaid's action, on par with Taskin, especially when he attempts to bowl the bouncer. It might be an illusion, but we had this habit of getting defensive when people pointed out Ajmal's flaws. I can't help but turn a blind eye, I'd rather that we were proactive dealing with such potential problems.

How come everyone sees faults in Pakistani bowlers while the likes of Bumrah get away with anything

 

[Rayyman]

Had the joint-most maidens in the tournament.

 

[Idrees1990]

Weak link on our pace attack right now. Gives up the pressure generated by Amir. Need to increase his pace between 140-145 or show him the door. No threat in his bowling right now. But I like his heart. Coaches should be able to help him increase his pace.

 

[Syed1]

He was looking extremely mediocre from the other end when amir bowled that magical spell than again most bowlers in the world will

Yes 3 overs for 7 runs including a top-edged fluky boundary is "extremely mediocre"


Mashallah some of these "experts"

 

[Syed1]

Frankly speaking, I have no faith in him at all and I don't trust him. He is the weak-link of this attack.

Your having faith in him does not matter. The fact is he was the third best pacer in the tournament.

 

[Idrees1990]

Don't know what posters here want from him!! The guy was the third leading wicket taker of the tournament at 19 average, took wickets consistently, got his pace back up, reignite his ability to bowl at death, all after having been through so much. He was harshly treated by PCB after that SL tour in 2015, when he was not at his best and was discarded apparently forever. Even Inzi gave him stick discrediting his performances in BPL last year. Yet he managed to get a decent showing when Wahab Riaz would always get the preferential treatment and would be the first pick the first match of last 3 ODI series. Confidence is the key for a pacer, and he was never given that.

He was given a lot of stick by everyone, but he came back stronger. I am completely sure if he wasn't there in the games against SL, RSA, ENG, we would not have won it. He has made this engine of our team work smoothly and has given sarfraz a breathing room with his control. He knows how to take wickets, which is something Wahab was never able to do so.

With some power training, which helped Bhuvneshwar get his pace up by almost 15 kph, he can be as quick as Amir hopefully. I trust Azhar Mahmood, he will take him to another level IA.

We want him to bowl 140k + and not around 130. He is a easy target without swing at this pace

 

[kingusama92]

Rotate between Junaid Khan and Rumman Raees.

Amir + Hasan Ali are locks but you can play around with that third seamer based on form, fitness and pitch conditions.

I'm sure they'll unearth another pacer between now and 2019.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

We want him to bowl 140k + and not around 130. He is a easy target without swing at this pace

He is bowling around 137-140kph already. In CT he did. Plus if he was such an easy target then he wouldn't have had an economy rate of less than 5 in CT. The only expansive Pakistani bowlers were Shadab and Wahab,

 

[Sports_Psychologist]

We want him to bowl 140k + and not around 130. He is a easy target without swing at this pace

Yeah and that why he is in ICC team for champions trophy

 

[zn426]

How come everyone sees faults in Pakistani bowlers while the likes of Bumrah get away with anything

Because Bumrah has the Indian testing facility to protect him whereas Pakistani bowlers have always been accused of some cheating or another. Remember when the ECB was complaining about reverse swing until they figured it out on their own?

 

[CricMylifr]

He bowls better with older ball.. which means he should switch positions with Hassan Ali...

I still want him to play some more county cricket..

 

[Red Devil]

He was economical, took wickets regularly and generally bowled with great accuracy. You can't ask for more tbh.

 

[amax]

Always rated him , he is a very intelligent bowler

 

[SaqibHere]

Stick with him for sure. Rotate 4th and 5th seamer/fast bowler (pacer would be really nice addition) to the team so that injury prone players can get enough recovery/rest time between series/matches and we have bench strength!

Stay.

 

[Kaka4pope]

Sure with the current pace attack, there isn't a tall bowler - though all three bowl a pretty sharp bouncer. Nor are any of them express pace, though all three are nippy, and do touch 90 every now and then.

If there was a bowler as skillful as Junaid and they were effectively taller or quicker (is Rumman that man?) then naturally there would be competition, which is healthy, to compete with all three of the current trio.

I think Junaid is a quality bowler, and looking closer to his best again. And on this form, if he is deemed the weakest link in our team - then long may it continue...

 

[Abid Z]

Junaid was comfortably bowling in mid 80's. he was consistently landing in a good line and length with clever variations and pin point death bowling. He's come back after a long lay off so needs a bit of time to get back to peak performance but considering the guys we have in the squad I.e spray gun wahab, 4 ball Rahat and breaking down irfan it's essential that junaid is kept in the squad to take the load off amir and hasan.

To the op, we all were shouting for him to be dropped when he lost too much of his pace and skill, but good to see him back

 

[New Yorker]

Your having faith in him does not matter. The fact is he was the third best pacer in the tournament.

not at all, it could matter quite a bit. players condemned by Mamoon often go on to have sterling careers.

 

[New Yorker]

Junaid was comfortably bowling in mid 80's. he was consistently landing in a good line and length with clever variations and pin point death bowling. He's come back after a long lay off so needs a bit of time to get back to peak performance but considering the guys we have in the squad I.e spray gun wahab, 4 ball Rahat and breaking down irfan it's essential that junaid is kept in the squad to take the load off amir and hasan.

To the op, we all were shouting for him to be dropped when he lost too much of his pace and skill, but good to see him back

wahab, rahat and irfan should all be history. junaid was simply great in the ct and deserves a spot but it can't be bestowed on him in perpetuity. he needs to keep earning it and there will be good competition from new talents in the domestics...

 

[Abid Z]

wahab, rahat and irfan should all be history. junaid was simply great in the ct and deserves a spot but it can't be bestowed on him in perpetuity. he needs to keep earning it and there will be good competition from new talents in the domestics...

you are spot on. Nobody should be taking their position for granted and its great to see how much Amir has upped his game also. But its fair to say the evidence points to about 12 months of match time..in 12 months Amir has come on so much from his last English tour, Hasan Ali looks like a complete bowler and now junaid needs about 12 months..but hes the 3rd seamer and should accept the fact that he needs to be looking over his shoulder as Ruman Rees looks ok.

Fahim i think is too raw and has a couple of habits that are just plain irritating..like he runs up holding the ball in full view of the batsman..but thats for another thread.

 

[Mamoon]

Your having faith in him does not matter. The fact is he was the third best pacer in the tournament.

Yes it does not matter because I am not the selector. Nonetheless, as I said, Junaid fans have earned the right to celebrate.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

We want him to bowl 140k + and not around 130. He is a easy target without swing at this pace

He is bowling around 137-140kph already. In CT he did. Plus if he was such an easy target then he wouldn't have had an economy rate of less than 5 in CT. The only expansive Pakistani bowlers were Shadab and Wahab,

Yeah and that why he is in ICC team for champions trophy

My Dear Friends !

I want to remind you and other PPer's Some facts :


1. JK started his career as medium fast pacer.

2. Increased his pace and became fast medium.

3. In his 2 peak + best Odi series vs Ind & SA he was fast medium with fastest delivery recorded around 146 147 kph. Predominantly he was 137-142 kph bowler.

4. JK got unfit and terrible medical staff meant his knees got ruined. Took him months to comeback and his entire body was gone. Skin and bones with poor flexibility.

5. 15 months ago we saw JK bowling 125 - 132 kph in domestic T20 in England with poor results. In the meantime his list A & Fc numbers in Pak were absolutely horrible.


6. Finally after 3 years his fitness improved . Pace, accuracy picked up. He did well in BPL, PSL & than in PSL. Under Azhar at NCA & with Pak Team his pace & fitness picked up.

7. In CT he bowled fast medium (marginally) and his fastest ball recorded was 142.2 kph.

8. Even at not his absolute best JK became 3rd best pacer of CT and was selected in Team of the tournament by renowned ex-Cricketers. None of those ex Cricketers is blind nor biased.

9. With further improvement in fitness & under Azhar Junaid will regain remaining 5kph as well InshaAllah, since He is 26-27 only.


10. I am attaching JK's overall numbers with filtered numbers of his first 36 months performances in Odi Cricket (before injury). These are seriously good Odi numbers where most matches he played were in Asia.

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] fivefer isn't everything. Your overall record matters.



In last 4 Years we all ridiculed JK( including me). Plenty of Hate. Injury management accountability of concerned people ? Absolutely Zero.

[MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION] absolutely Loves JK & Ajmal like anything so only He stood with Junaid Khan plus some Indian Posters. That's it. No Pakistani poster stood with JK.


I have learnt a Lesson. Greatest Left Arm Pacer ever Wasim Akram was the only Ex Cricketer who stood with Junaid. He was the one who on commentary, social media aswell as on other media assignments always backed Junaid Khan and wanted selectors to pick him. Please don't forget that in those 4 years Wasim worked with around 20 young bowlers in different camps including Mir Hamza, Sadaf, Majid Ali etc etc you name it but He always wanted JK to be selected.


Wasim cannot be biased for JK because :


a. He wasn't his find.

b. JK has never been as fast as Wasim was.

c. JK is not from Wasim's region or department.

d. Unlike Wasim JK is predominantly a seamer and not a swing bowler.



If Wasim believed JK is a chucker he would have never backed him. (Mamoon note it plz)



What I have learnt ? In terms of Left Arm pace bowling nobody is Pakistan knows better than Wasim Akram neither in Eye nor assesment/judgement. So let's Respect Wasim Akram's words and opinions.


JK played 4 matches and became 3rd highest wicket taker of CT. For me it's crystal clear. If He improves his fitness further His performances will go up further. God forbid if his fitness declines his performances will decline.


JK (hero) if you are reading Come On. Work harder. Thank you for proving me 100 % wrong. Thank you Wasim, Azhar, Inzamam, Sarfraz, Mickey, Luden, Yasir & JK. Thank you PP [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] [MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] for the support, help, tweets & Interviews of JK.

[MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] [MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] [MENTION=141390]Ellipsism[/MENTION] [MENTION=113742]Hamza_[/MENTION] [MENTION=133726]GoUgandaCranes[/MENTION] [MENTION=5869]yasir[/MENTION] [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] [MENTION=136079]ahmedwaqas92[/MENTION] [MENTION=1044]KHAN[/MENTION]_12 [MENTION=143023]SarfiBabarHaris[/MENTION] [MENTION=139150]aliasad1998[/MENTION] [MENTION=128087]last_knight[/MENTION] [MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION] [MENTION=34705]cric[/MENTION] lover 27 [MENTION=141922]ExpressPacer[/MENTION] , keep note of it.

 

[GudduBadmash]

My Dear Friends !

I want to remind you and other PPer's Some facts :


1. JK started his career as medium fast pacer.

2. Increased his pace and became fast medium.

3. In his 2 peak + best Odi series vs Ind & SA he was fast medium with fastest delivery recorded around 146 147 kph. Predominantly he was 137-142 kph bowler.

4. JK got unfit and terrible medical staff meant his knees got ruined. Took him months to comeback and his entire body was gone. Skin and bones with poor flexibility.

5. 15 months ago we saw JK bowling 125 - 132 kph in domestic T20 in England with poor results. In the meantime his list A & Fc numbers in Pak were absolutely horrible.


6. Finally after 3 years his fitness improved . Pace, accuracy picked up. He did well in BPL, PSL & than in PSL. Under Azhar at NCA & with Pak Team his pace & fitness picked up.

7. In CT he bowled fast medium (marginally) and his fastest ball recorded was 142.2 kph.

8. Even at not his absolute best JK became 3rd best pacer of CT and was selected in Team of the tournament by renowned ex-Cricketers. None of those ex Cricketers is blind nor biased.

9. With further improvement in fitness & under Azhar Junaid will regain remaining 5kph as well InshaAllah, since He is 26-27 only.


10. I am attaching JK's overall numbers with filtered numbers of his first 36 months performances in Odi Cricket (before injury). These are seriously good Odi numbers where most matches he played were in Asia.

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] fivefer isn't everything. Your overall record matters.



In last 4 Years we all ridiculed JK( including me). Plenty of Hate. Injury management accountability of concerned people ? Absolutely Zero.

[MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION] absolutely Loves JK & Ajmal like anything so only He stood with Junaid Khan plus some Indian Posters. That's it. No Pakistani poster stood with JK.


I have learnt a Lesson. Greatest Left Arm Pacer ever Wasim Akram was the only Ex Cricketer who stood with Junaid. He was the one who on commentary, social media aswell as on other media assignments always backed Junaid Khan and wanted selectors to pick him. Please don't forget that in those 4 years Wasim worked with around 20 young bowlers in different camps including Mir Hamza, Sadaf, Majid Ali etc etc you name it but He always wanted JK to be selected.


Wasim cannot be biased for JK because :


a. He wasn't his find.

b. JK has never been as fast as Wasim was.

c. JK is not from Wasim's region or department.

d. Unlike Wasim JK is predominantly a seamer and not a swing bowler.



If Wasim believed JK is a chucker he would have never backed him. (Mamoon note it plz)



What I have learnt ? In terms of Left Arm pace bowling nobody is Pakistan knows better than Wasim Akram neither in Eye nor assesment/judgement. So let's Respect Wasim Akram's words and opinions.


JK played 4 matches and became 3rd highest wicket taker of CT. For me it's crystal clear. If He improves his fitness further His performances will go up further. God forbid if his fitness declines his performances will decline.


JK (hero) if you are reading Come On. Work harder. Thank you for proving me 100 % wrong. Thank you Wasim, Azhar, Inzamam, Sarfraz, Mickey, Luden, Yasir & JK. Thank you PP [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] [MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] for the support, help, tweets & Interviews of JK.

[MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] [MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] [MENTION=141390]Ellipsism[/MENTION] [MENTION=113742]Hamza_[/MENTION] [MENTION=133726]GoUgandaCranes[/MENTION] [MENTION=5869]yasir[/MENTION] [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] [MENTION=136079]ahmedwaqas92[/MENTION] [MENTION=1044]KHAN[/MENTION]_12 [MENTION=143023]SarfiBabarHaris[/MENTION] [MENTION=139150]aliasad1998[/MENTION] [MENTION=128087]last_knight[/MENTION] [MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION] [MENTION=34705]cric[/MENTION] lover 27 [MENTION=141922]ExpressPacer[/MENTION] , keep note of it.

Aray paglay rulayge kya ;'( <3

 

[Arsalan Pro]

My Dear Friends !

I want to remind you and other PPer's Some facts :


1. JK started his career as medium fast pacer.

2. Increased his pace and became fast medium.

3. In his 2 peak + best Odi series vs Ind & SA he was fast medium with fastest delivery recorded around 146 147 kph. Predominantly he was 137-142 kph bowler.

4. JK got unfit and terrible medical staff meant his knees got ruined. Took him months to comeback and his entire body was gone. Skin and bones with poor flexibility.

5. 15 months ago we saw JK bowling 125 - 132 kph in domestic T20 in England with poor results. In the meantime his list A & Fc numbers in Pak were absolutely horrible.


6. Finally after 3 years his fitness improved . Pace, accuracy picked up. He did well in BPL, PSL & than in PSL. Under Azhar at NCA & with Pak Team his pace & fitness picked up.

7. In CT he bowled fast medium (marginally) and his fastest ball recorded was 142.2 kph.

8. Even at not his absolute best JK became 3rd best pacer of CT and was selected in Team of the tournament by renowned ex-Cricketers. None of those ex Cricketers is blind nor biased.

9. With further improvement in fitness & under Azhar Junaid will regain remaining 5kph as well InshaAllah, since He is 26-27 only.


10. I am attaching JK's overall numbers with filtered numbers of his first 36 months performances in Odi Cricket (before injury). These are seriously good Odi numbers where most matches he played were in Asia.

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] fivefer isn't everything. Your overall record matters.



In last 4 Years we all ridiculed JK( including me). Plenty of Hate. Injury management accountability of concerned people ? Absolutely Zero.

[MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION] absolutely Loves JK & Ajmal like anything so only He stood with Junaid Khan plus some Indian Posters. That's it. No Pakistani poster stood with JK.


I have learnt a Lesson. Greatest Left Arm Pacer ever Wasim Akram was the only Ex Cricketer who stood with Junaid. He was the one who on commentary, social media aswell as on other media assignments always backed Junaid Khan and wanted selectors to pick him. Please don't forget that in those 4 years Wasim worked with around 20 young bowlers in different camps including Mir Hamza, Sadaf, Majid Ali etc etc you name it but He always wanted JK to be selected.


Wasim cannot be biased for JK because :


a. He wasn't his find.

b. JK has never been as fast as Wasim was.

c. JK is not from Wasim's region or department.

d. Unlike Wasim JK is predominantly a seamer and not a swing bowler.



If Wasim believed JK is a chucker he would have never backed him. (Mamoon note it plz)



What I have learnt ? In terms of Left Arm pace bowling nobody is Pakistan knows better than Wasim Akram neither in Eye nor assesment/judgement. So let's Respect Wasim Akram's words and opinions.


JK played 4 matches and became 3rd highest wicket taker of CT. For me it's crystal clear. If He improves his fitness further His performances will go up further. God forbid if his fitness declines his performances will decline.


JK (hero) if you are reading Come On. Work harder. Thank you for proving me 100 % wrong. Thank you Wasim, Azhar, Inzamam, Sarfraz, Mickey, Luden, Yasir & JK. Thank you PP [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] [MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] for the support, help, tweets & Interviews of JK.

[MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] [MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] [MENTION=141390]Ellipsism[/MENTION] [MENTION=113742]Hamza_[/MENTION] [MENTION=133726]GoUgandaCranes[/MENTION] [MENTION=5869]yasir[/MENTION] [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] [MENTION=136079]ahmedwaqas92[/MENTION] [MENTION=1044]KHAN[/MENTION]_12 [MENTION=143023]SarfiBabarHaris[/MENTION] [MENTION=139150]aliasad1998[/MENTION] [MENTION=128087]last_knight[/MENTION] [MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION] [MENTION=34705]cric[/MENTION] lover 27 [MENTION=141922]ExpressPacer[/MENTION] , keep note of it.

Very good post and analysis [MENTION=138980]TalentSpotterPk[/MENTION] and I am one of the die hard supporters of Junaid Khan and thankfully he proved me right. He is a very good bowler and with little more help he can be one of the leading Fast bowlers in the world along with Amir and Hasan.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Weak link on our pace attack right now. Gives up the pressure generated by Amir. Need to increase his pace between 140-145 or show him the door. No threat in his bowling right now. But I like his heart. Coaches should be able to help him increase his pace.

Except I don't think his chief weapon is his pace. He was getting wickets by getting the new ball to move off the seam and bowling in good areas creating uncertainty for the batsmen. That is far more important than bowling fast like Wahab and spraying balls all over the place with no swing or seam.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Except I don't think his chief weapon is his pace. He was getting wickets by getting the new ball to move off the seam and bowling in good areas creating uncertainty for the batsmen. That is far more important than bowling fast like Wahab and spraying balls all over the place with no swing or seam.

Precise cool assesment. I agree.

 

[Blitz]

I've always liked him, but don't think he's ever lived up to his talent.

However, in this tournament he was brilliant. Not just the wicket taking, but the fact he barely went for runs. He creates this pressure at the top, that aids both him and Amir.

I definitely would like to see him get a long run in the ODI team. His death bowling has always been brilliant. I don't see anyone who is substantially better to be honest to displace him with all that he offers.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

This was what I wanted to attach with Post number 68 but forgot to do it. Tagging got hold of me


First 36 months Int Cricket Odi performances filtered. 3 fourfers in 46 Odi's. Average under 25, Eco under 5 and SR of 29.


Prior to Injury, excellent number.



CT number's (high pressure cric) even more impressive

 

[MMHS]

My Dear Friends !

I want to remind you and other PPer's Some facts :


1. JK started his career as medium fast pacer.

2. Increased his pace and became fast medium.

3. In his 2 peak + best Odi series vs Ind & SA he was fast medium with fastest delivery recorded around 146 147 kph. Predominantly he was 137-142 kph bowler.

4. JK got unfit and terrible medical staff meant his knees got ruined. Took him months to comeback and his entire body was gone. Skin and bones with poor flexibility.

5. 15 months ago we saw JK bowling 125 - 132 kph in domestic T20 in England with poor results. In the meantime his list A & Fc numbers in Pak were absolutely horrible.


6. Finally after 3 years his fitness improved . Pace, accuracy picked up. He did well in BPL, PSL & than in PSL. Under Azhar at NCA & with Pak Team his pace & fitness picked up.

7. In CT he bowled fast medium (marginally) and his fastest ball recorded was 142.2 kph.

8. Even at not his absolute best JK became 3rd best pacer of CT and was selected in Team of the tournament by renowned ex-Cricketers. None of those ex Cricketers is blind nor biased.

9. With further improvement in fitness & under Azhar Junaid will regain remaining 5kph as well InshaAllah, since He is 26-27 only.


10. I am attaching JK's overall numbers with filtered numbers of his first 36 months performances in Odi Cricket (before injury). These are seriously good Odi numbers where most matches he played were in Asia.

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] fivefer isn't everything. Your overall record matters.



In last 4 Years we all ridiculed JK( including me). Plenty of Hate. Injury management accountability of concerned people ? Absolutely Zero.

[MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION] absolutely Loves JK & Ajmal like anything so only He stood with Junaid Khan plus some Indian Posters. That's it. No Pakistani poster stood with JK.


I have learnt a Lesson. Greatest Left Arm Pacer ever Wasim Akram was the only Ex Cricketer who stood with Junaid. He was the one who on commentary, social media aswell as on other media assignments always backed Junaid Khan and wanted selectors to pick him. Please don't forget that in those 4 years Wasim worked with around 20 young bowlers in different camps including Mir Hamza, Sadaf, Majid Ali etc etc you name it but He always wanted JK to be selected.


Wasim cannot be biased for JK because :


a. He wasn't his find.

b. JK has never been as fast as Wasim was.

c. JK is not from Wasim's region or department.

d. Unlike Wasim JK is predominantly a seamer and not a swing bowler.



If Wasim believed JK is a chucker he would have never backed him. (Mamoon note it plz)



What I have learnt ? In terms of Left Arm pace bowling nobody is Pakistan knows better than Wasim Akram neither in Eye nor assesment/judgement. So let's Respect Wasim Akram's words and opinions.


JK played 4 matches and became 3rd highest wicket taker of CT. For me it's crystal clear. If He improves his fitness further His performances will go up further. God forbid if his fitness declines his performances will decline.


JK (hero) if you are reading Come On. Work harder. Thank you for proving me 100 % wrong. Thank you Wasim, Azhar, Inzamam, Sarfraz, Mickey, Luden, Yasir & JK. Thank you PP [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] [MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] for the support, help, tweets & Interviews of JK.

[MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] [MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] [MENTION=141390]Ellipsism[/MENTION] [MENTION=113742]Hamza_[/MENTION] [MENTION=133726]GoUgandaCranes[/MENTION] [MENTION=5869]yasir[/MENTION] [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] [MENTION=136079]ahmedwaqas92[/MENTION] [MENTION=1044]KHAN[/MENTION]_12 [MENTION=143023]SarfiBabarHaris[/MENTION] [MENTION=139150]aliasad1998[/MENTION] [MENTION=128087]last_knight[/MENTION] [MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION] [MENTION=34705]cric[/MENTION] lover 27 [MENTION=141922]ExpressPacer[/MENTION] , keep note of it.

Once more - if Umpires are happy with his action - he is good, can be great in couple of years time.

 

[mak36]

My Dear Friends !

I want to remind you and other PPer's Some facts :


1. JK started his career as medium fast pacer.

2. Increased his pace and became fast medium.

3. In his 2 peak + best Odi series vs Ind & SA he was fast medium with fastest delivery recorded around 146 147 kph. Predominantly he was 137-142 kph bowler.

4. JK got unfit and terrible medical staff meant his knees got ruined. Took him months to comeback and his entire body was gone. Skin and bones with poor flexibility.

5. 15 months ago we saw JK bowling 125 - 132 kph in domestic T20 in England with poor results. In the meantime his list A & Fc numbers in Pak were absolutely horrible.


6. Finally after 3 years his fitness improved . Pace, accuracy picked up. He did well in BPL, PSL & than in PSL. Under Azhar at NCA & with Pak Team his pace & fitness picked up.

7. In CT he bowled fast medium (marginally) and his fastest ball recorded was 142.2 kph.

8. Even at not his absolute best JK became 3rd best pacer of CT and was selected in Team of the tournament by renowned ex-Cricketers. None of those ex Cricketers is blind nor biased.

9. With further improvement in fitness & under Azhar Junaid will regain remaining 5kph as well InshaAllah, since He is 26-27 only.


10. I am attaching JK's overall numbers with filtered numbers of his first 36 months performances in Odi Cricket (before injury). These are seriously good Odi numbers where most matches he played were in Asia.

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] fivefer isn't everything. Your overall record matters.



In last 4 Years we all ridiculed JK( including me). Plenty of Hate. Injury management accountability of concerned people ? Absolutely Zero.

[MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION] absolutely Loves JK & Ajmal like anything so only He stood with Junaid Khan plus some Indian Posters. That's it. No Pakistani poster stood with JK.


I have learnt a Lesson. Greatest Left Arm Pacer ever Wasim Akram was the only Ex Cricketer who stood with Junaid. He was the one who on commentary, social media aswell as on other media assignments always backed Junaid Khan and wanted selectors to pick him. Please don't forget that in those 4 years Wasim worked with around 20 young bowlers in different camps including Mir Hamza, Sadaf, Majid Ali etc etc you name it but He always wanted JK to be selected.


Wasim cannot be biased for JK because :


a. He wasn't his find.

b. JK has never been as fast as Wasim was.

c. JK is not from Wasim's region or department.

d. Unlike Wasim JK is predominantly a seamer and not a swing bowler.



If Wasim believed JK is a chucker he would have never backed him. (Mamoon note it plz)



What I have learnt ? In terms of Left Arm pace bowling nobody is Pakistan knows better than Wasim Akram neither in Eye nor assesment/judgement. So let's Respect Wasim Akram's words and opinions.


JK played 4 matches and became 3rd highest wicket taker of CT. For me it's crystal clear. If He improves his fitness further His performances will go up further. God forbid if his fitness declines his performances will decline.


JK (hero) if you are reading Come On. Work harder. Thank you for proving me 100 % wrong. Thank you Wasim, Azhar, Inzamam, Sarfraz, Mickey, Luden, Yasir & JK. Thank you PP [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] [MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] for the support, help, tweets & Interviews of JK.

[MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] [MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] [MENTION=141390]Ellipsism[/MENTION] [MENTION=113742]Hamza_[/MENTION] [MENTION=133726]GoUgandaCranes[/MENTION] [MENTION=5869]yasir[/MENTION] [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] [MENTION=136079]ahmedwaqas92[/MENTION] [MENTION=1044]KHAN[/MENTION]_12 [MENTION=143023]SarfiBabarHaris[/MENTION] [MENTION=139150]aliasad1998[/MENTION] [MENTION=128087]last_knight[/MENTION] [MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION] [MENTION=34705]cric[/MENTION] lover 27 [MENTION=141922]ExpressPacer[/MENTION] , keep note of it.

Agree that he has earnt his place in the team for now. In the long term, the key question is whether he will be able to work on his fitness and continue improving.

You have mentioned that you hope he (re)gains 5kph in speed. What are your views on how he will fare on pitches in UAE/subcontinent if he doesn't regain that speed?

 

[Khwaja]

Junaid should be slowly swapped out by Rumman... as the latter is the superior bowler for years to come INSHALLAH

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Agree that he has earnt his place in the team for now. In the long term, the key question is whether he will be able to work on his fitness and continue improving.

You have mentioned that you hope he (re)gains 5kph in speed. What are your views on how he will fare on pitches in UAE/subcontinent if he doesn't regain that speed?

Even if he doesn't regain the speed he is still marginally Fast Medium so with his brain plus variations He would do quite well in Odi Cricket in UAE/subcontinent. JK has had financial setbacks in last 4 years, he is married (stable) so I do not see any reason why He cannot improve his fitness aswell as speed in next 3 months. If he does not get unfit He will InshaAllah.

 

[mak36]

Even if he doesn't regain the speed he is still marginally Fast Medium so with his brain plus variations He would do quite well in Odi Cricket in UAE/subcontinent. JK has had financial setbacks in last 4 years, he is married (stable) so I do not see any reason why He cannot improve his fitness aswell as speed in next 3 months. If he does not get unfit He will InshaAllah.

Fair enough. Presumably if he doesn't regain the speed, you think tests are out of the question?

 

[Ellipsism]

I'm not sure if I'm the only one, but I've noticed a lack of consistency in his action. It's more so notable when you compare his initial overs to his latter overs.