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Kamran Akmal - The explosive opener we need

Square Drive said:
Kamran at #4 in ODIs as well?

Where do the likes of Sarfraz, Malik, Hafeez play?

Everyone in our current side wants to bat at 4 and seems to be suited towards 4, be it Sarfraz, Umar, Malik, Hafeez, Haris, even Rizwan. And now we're talking about putting Kamran there.
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Malik and Hafeez shouldn't be in the team. Umar should open.

Haris has to score runs before he can return.
 
Square Drive said:
Kamran at #4 in ODIs as well?

Where do the likes of Sarfraz, Malik, Hafeez play?

Everyone in our current side wants to bat at 4 and seems to be suited towards 4, be it Sarfraz, Umar, Malik, Hafeez, Haris, even Rizwan. And now we're talking about putting Kamran there.
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They don't
 
Awful, awful shot today. This is the Kamran you will se at Int'l level.
 
:)))

Bas hogi tasali.


This is why i said yesterday, lets wait and see and judge him after the whole psl.
 
The fact that Kamran Akmal dropped a sitter that went away for four and that he got a zero pretty much sums up his entire cricketing life and career.

The state of talent in Pakistan is shocking though considering that he is still in top three of the best wicket keepers that we have and the less we talk about rizwan the better.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
Malik and Hafeez shouldn't be in the team. Umar should open.

Haris has to score runs before he can return.
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We should probably be a bit more realistic, then.

aliasad1998 said:
They don't
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See my reply above to CD.

If you think our newly appointed captain won't feature in our line-up, you're smoking something really strong.

Only Hafeez is really likely to be dropped, but Malik & Sarfraz have their roles in the side and you know they're staying.

Umar won't open, even though I believe he should as well.
 
Syed1 said:
The guy who averaged 60 odd in England shouldn't be in the side. Some of these posters I tell you..
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PP Logic: Drop a player who in the last four ODI series has average and SR of 38/89, 35/89, 60/91 in England (best batsmen out of both teams) and 119/101. His career SR is 88, is one of the best runners between the wicket in the team and one of the best players of spin but that's not good enough.
 
He should get his opportunity, especially with the Sharjeel news.

He doesn't need to play as a keeper and can play as a specialist batsman, which he has said himself.
 
Another decent pacer exposes Kamran Akmal... he was fine hitting gentle pace of Irfan... As soon as Sami cranked it up, Kamran was gone
 
Syed1 said:
The guy who averaged 60 odd in England shouldn't be in the side. Some of these posters I tell you..
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even if you put away the stats, just by watching you can tell that he belongs at this level..... mind boggling
 
Jinxed Kami nicely. Well done Hawkeye. Should judge him at the end of the tournament.
 
Hasan123 said:
Jinxed Kami nicely. Well done Hawkeye. Should judge him at the end of the tournament.
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International selection is not based on how much a person scored in a T20 league.

It's based on what ability you showed on a particular platform, against what type of bowling, what your shots were and what were your strong points.

He has shown that he has a lot more ability and potential than ALL the current borefest top order players that we have, barring Sharjeel. And that he belongs in the modern LOI era.

All off side strokes, clearing the fence with ease and timing, not just leg side hoicks to the cow corner.

"omg he failed in 2 out 3 innings ban himm11!!!" -- this logic is used by stats and spreadsheet fanatics. Kami is a more clutch + explosive player than combined Shehzad and Azhar.

I don't pay much attention to in how many innings a person failed out of X matches in a tournament. Neither does any selector.
 
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Yeah that's why his career batting average is 20 odd with the bat. What a beast of a player and such a clutch player.
 
Hawkeye said:
International selection is not based on how much a person scored in a T20 league.

It's based on what ability you showed on a particular platform, against what type of bowling, what your shots were and what were your strong points.

He has shown that he has a lot more ability and potential than ALL the current borefest top order players that we have, barring Sharjeel. And that he belongs in the modern LOI era.

All off side strokes, clearing the fence with ease and timing, not just leg side hoicks to the cow corner.

"omg he failed in 2 out 3 innings ban himm11!!!" -- this logic is used by stats and spreadsheet fanatics. Kami is a more clutch + explosive player than combined Shehzad and Azhar.

I don't pay much attention to in how many innings a person failed out of X matches in a tournament. Neither does any selector.
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No your right t20 leagues aren't the basis of selection. But performing in the PSL will really help his case as the standard is higher compared to our domestic league. Also more people are watching as well so there is more pressure.

Yes he is better than Azhar and Shehzad in LO I am not denying that, but if he has a poor PSL it's not going to help his case.

Our selectors clearly do look at t20 can competitions, how do you think Nawaz, Sharjeel,Hasan Ali were selected LOL?
 
That's the thing with Kamran. One day he bats beautifully then goes missing in several games. No wonder, his average is so low. I guess somethings never change.
 
Hawkeye said:
International selection is not based on how much a person scored in a T20 league.

It's based on what ability you showed on a particular platform, against what type of bowling, what your shots were and what were your strong points.

He has shown that he has a lot more ability and potential than ALL the current borefest top order players that we have, barring Sharjeel. And that he belongs in the modern LOI era.

All off side strokes, clearing the fence with ease and timing, not just leg side hoicks to the cow corner.

"omg he failed in 2 out 3 innings ban himm11!!!" -- this logic is used by stats and spreadsheet fanatics. Kami is a more clutch + explosive player than combined Shehzad and Azhar.

I don't pay much attention to in how many innings a person failed out of X matches in a tournament. Neither does any selector.
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You must be kami himself. That's all I can say. Never seen such a die hard fan of kami. That being said, he does deserve another call up to the national side based on the year(2016) he has had in domestic and I do agree people jump the gun with few particular players of they fail twice in a row. There are few Babar haters as well on this forum which is baffling. Saifi haters in abundance (with all due respect you included), Umar akmal haters, Kami haters, Hafeez haters and the most irrational ones, Misbah haters.
 
SaadAliG said:
You must be kami himself. That's all I can say. Never seen such a die hard fan of kami. That being said, he does deserve another call up to the national side based on the year(2016) he has had in domestic and I do agree people jump the gun with few particular players of they fail twice in a row. There are few Babar haters as well on this forum which is baffling. Saifi haters in abundance (with all due respect you included), Umar akmal haters, Kami haters, Hafeez haters and the most irrational ones, Misbah haters.
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Not a die hard fan of Kami. He's better than all the other available options in LOIs. Or don't tell me you're a fan of Shehzad/Rizwan/Azhar/Hafeez/Malik.

Not a Sarf hater too, I like him in Tests, but his batting in LOIs can be a liability as he cannot hit the ball or take on bowlers, esp. pacers. Or do you like to ignore this fact? It's similar to Malik's, and I don't want Malik too.
 
Hawkeye said:
Not a die hard fan of Kami. He's better than all the other available options in LOIs. Or don't tell me you're a fan of Shehzad/Rizwan/Azhar/Hafeez/Malik.

Not a Sarf hater too, I like him in Tests, but his batting in LOIs can be a liability as he cannot hit the ball or take on bowlers, esp. pacers. Or do you like to ignore this fact? It's similar to Malik's, and I don't want Malik too.
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Sarfraz might not be able to hit pacers but Akmal can't hit any type of bowler at all.
 
Hawkeye said:
Not a die hard fan of Kami. He's better than all the other available options in LOIs. Or don't tell me you're a fan of Shehzad/Rizwan/Azhar/Hafeez/Malik.

Not a Sarf hater too, I like him in Tests, but his batting in LOIs can be a liability as he cannot hit the ball or take on bowlers, esp. pacers. Or do you like to ignore this fact? It's similar to Malik's, and I don't want Malik too.
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How does Sarfraz scores with this consistency then. Might have been true during his first run of form, he regularly picks pacers for boundaries these days. Also, he plays with soft bottom hand and firmer top hand which gives him this ability to nudge the ball wherever he wants and keep the ball in the air. He's consistent and has been our best batsman for the past 3 years combined in all formats.
 
lets face it he is finished and if you select him for international he will give similar performace 30 , 3 , 11 , 5 , 23 , 8
 
Asif321 said:
lets face it he is finished and if you select him for international he will give similar performace 30 , 3 , 11 , 5 , 23 , 8
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Doesn't matter, he has been scoring runs for fun in domestic cricket, he deserves to be in the team.
 
i think he has completed is quota of play in one inning and fail in rest of the matches just like his brother.

only good for domestic matches.
 
i literally enjoy when he fails with bat i don,t want him any where near pakistan team along with hafeez and

i am best allounder in pakistan anwar ali
 
Haven't seen any other Pak bat apart from Umar who can play LOIs like they're supposed to, and have shots all around the ground.


Quite disappointed as there is no one else who can replace Kami.

Ppers have a habit of hating and bashing Kami or Umar, but cannot name ONE batsman who can play like them, strike it effortlessly and with a good offside game.

Rizwan, Sarfraz, Azhar, Imad Wasim, Hafeez. Is this what you want?

Or is it just fashion to hate on the two? Because if you do, you have absolutely no idea of alternatives.

Trust me, I wouldn't praise Kami if we had alternatives.
 
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Hawkeye said:
Haven't seen any other Pak bat apart from Umar who can play LOIs like they're supposed to, and have shots all around the ground.


Quite disappointed as there is no one else who can replace Kami.

Ppers have a habit of hating and bashing Kami or Umar, but cannot name ONE batsman who can play like them, strike it effortlessly and with a good offside game.

Rizwan, Sarfraz, Azhar, Imad Wasim, Hafeez. Is this what you want?

Or is it just fashion to hate on the two? Because if you do, you have absolutely no idea of alternatives.

Trust me, I wouldn't praise Kami if we had alternatives.
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What shots down the ground.... he gets caught at cow corner 20 yards in from the boundary...
 
alternatives of akmal brothers

fakhar zamman, hasan khan, sohaib maqsood, shahzaib, ahmed shahzad. none of the are in team right now.
 
Kakmal made his one score of the tournament ... his tournament is done now. He will try to live off that one score.
 
Hawkeye said:
Haven't seen any other Pak bat apart from Umar who can play LOIs like they're supposed to, and have shots all around the ground.


Quite disappointed as there is no one else who can replace Kami.

Ppers have a habit of hating and bashing Kami or Umar, but cannot name ONE batsman who can play like them, strike it effortlessly and with a good offside game.

Rizwan, Sarfraz, Azhar, Imad Wasim, Hafeez. Is this what you want?

Or is it just fashion to hate on the two? Because if you do, you have absolutely no idea of alternatives.

Trust me, I wouldn't praise Kami if we had alternatives.
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Any batsman can average 25 striking like that if team allows them
 
Hawkeye said:
Haven't seen any other Pak bat apart from Umar who can play LOIs like they're supposed to, and have shots all around the ground.


Quite disappointed as there is no one else who can replace Kami.

Ppers have a habit of hating and bashing Kami or Umar, but cannot name ONE batsman who can play like them, strike it effortlessly and with a good offside game.

Rizwan, Sarfraz, Azhar, Imad Wasim, Hafeez. Is this what you want?

Or is it just fashion to hate on the two? Because if you do, you have absolutely no idea of alternatives.

Trust me, I wouldn't praise Kami if we had alternatives.
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What good is having the ability to play shots all around the ground when you lack brains? This is the issue with both Umar & Kamran. As for alternatives..anybody but Kamran.
 
Indiafan said:
Any batsman can average 25 striking like that if team allows them
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Nope. Averaging 50 plus in recent domestics.

in_cutter said:
What good is having the ability to play shots all around the ground when you lack brains? This is the issue with both Umar & Kamran. As for alternatives..anybody but Kamran.
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You sure have high standards in Hafeez, Rizwan, Malik, Sarfraz and Imad.

No thanks. Again you failed to mention any 2 solid alternatives.

That's the issue with people. Living in denial and don't know anyone who can win you LOIs or play like they belong in lois.
 
Hawkeye said:
Nope. Averaging 50 plus in recent domestics.



You sure have high standards in Hafeez, Rizwan, Malik, Sarfraz and Imad.

No thanks. Again you failed to mention any 2 solid alternatives.

That's the issue with people. Living in denial and don't know anyone who can win you LOIs or play like they belong in lois.
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And Umar has won us tonnes of LOI matches..right? The hype is unreal. And no I am not a fan of Hafeez or Malik.
 
The same rhetoric being repeated, without telling us who are better than Kami and Umar who can REPLACE them in LOIs.

What batsmen are there who can play the modern game better than Kami and Umar? Who can take on the bowlers esp against pace and hit at will?

Repeating ttf rhetoric shows you have no idea about pak cricket.
 
Hawkeye said:
The same rhetoric being repeated, without telling us who are better than Kami and Umar who can REPLACE them in LOIs.

What batsmen are there who can play the modern game better than Kami and Umar? Who can take on the bowlers esp against pace and hit at will?

Repeating ttf rhetoric shows you have no idea about pak cricket.
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throw a dart out of the window.... whichever first class batsman it lands on, draft him in and given the same number of games, he will average the same as kakmal.
 
Another explosive innings from Kakmal. But I have to admit his supporters are completely relentless and blindly still support him as if he is the next Don Bradman.
 
Eagle_Eye said:
throw a dart out of the window.... whichever first class batsman it lands on, draft him in and given the same number of games, he will average the same as kakmal.
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most likely more than kakmal
 
Kamran once again proving his critics right. Let's stop embarrasing ourselves and drop this discussion. His career is over, like it or not.
 
The brothers of self-destruction truly are the epitome of the phrase "flattering to deceive" - a couple of nice shots and suddenly their fans regurgitate tired cliches like "natural talent", "explosive" and "dynamic".

Inevitably they revert back to mediocrity against any half-decent opposition and their fans waiting for the next once in a blue moon knock.

Now its true Kamran's recent domestic form has been impressive. But bear in mind in the same domestic system the likes of Awais Zia and Iftikhar Ahmed also boast healthy records and neither would get into a Minor Counties side here in England let alone the national team.
 
Hawkeye said:
The same rhetoric being repeated, without telling us who are better than Kami and Umar who can REPLACE them in LOIs.

What batsmen are there who can play the modern game better than Kami and Umar? Who can take on the bowlers esp against pace and hit at will?

Repeating ttf rhetoric shows you have no idea about pak cricket.
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Umar should play but as an opener.

Kamran no thanks.

Umar
Fakhar
Babar
Malik
Sarfraz* (WK)
Hafeez
Yamin
Imad
Amir
Hasan
Asghar/Junaid

Bench: Shahzaib, Haris, Rizwan, Nawaz, Asghar/Junaid, Sohail

This should be it.

Haris should come in for whichever one of Hafeez/Malik fails completely in 3 straight games, since he too is out of sorts at the moment.

Hafeez's bowling makes him a more useful cricketer than Kamran, while Malik can still do a good enough job at #4.

Lack of alternatives for sure.

But still doesn't mean we go back to Kamran.
 
It's common for batsmen to go missing for the next few games after playing a gun knock like that. It's not easily replicated. That's why you need to have 5-6 batsmen in your lineup capable of striking the ball like that so others can make up on the days you miss out.
 
Pakistan will go two steps back if a proven failure like Kamran Akmal who struggles to perform against decent opposition most of the time, is selected.
 
He should be get his chance he has been piling runs in domestic tournaments! But instead of him i would love to see umar opening!
 
Oh. Just as I said he gets out. Been unlucky this tournament really. He's the one to bring back for sure.
 
Kami reverts to type against decent bowling attacks.

Time to shut the door on his intl career.
 
Completely jinxed him. Should have made this thread if he played similar knocks to the 1st game.
 
Kami, Umar just aren't intelligent enough to be consistent performers on this level. Unfortunately yet one of our better ones. Says something about the state of our domestic cricket.
 
Markhor said:
Kami reverts to type against decent bowling attacks.

Time to shut the door on his intl career.
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You can't. His hardwork in domestic for the past couple of years cannot be undone by a failure in 3 innings of t20s after an excellent start. He deserves a recall.
 
zeb185 said:
We already have an explosive opener - Sami Aslam
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I don't know if you're being sarcastic here. But you don't need to be explosive to be playing cricket. You just need to be focused, hard-working, compact and have temperament and all the other aspects will come as they mature in cricket. All of these things Sami Aslam have shown applenty. He's one for the future.
 
Don't judge him by low scores. He and his brother are the only modern batsman available in Pakistan. Low scores don't matter, 14-15 runs at 100+ SR is all we need at the moment.
 
Has played the only truly modern cricket knocks, along with his brother.

Everyone else from Pak has just been rubbish.
 
Saw his first innings and enough for me to say that Pakistan needs him at LOI and not Shehzad. Still of the same opinion, he is a better option then Shehzad
 
SHARJAH // Tymal Mills, the Quetta Gladiators fast bowler, is confident he can pose a significant threat against Peshawar Zalmi, despite the slow pace of the wicket in Sharjah.

The left-armer missed all the Pakistan Super League matches his side played at the UAE’s oldest cricket venue last week due to a hamstring injury.

After making his return at the Dubai International Stadium, he took three wickets on Saturday night against the same opposition Quetta will be faced with in the first play-off match.

Peshawar’s leading batsmen struggled against his pace, on a Dubai pitch that offered more carry than is generally the norm up the road in Sharjah.

"I don’t mind bowling on slow pitches," Mills said. "I have tended to do well in the subcontinent whenever I have bowled there over the past few years.

"If you bowl quick, at that heavy length, with it not bouncing much the batsmen tend to struggle. You have to be disciplined with your lines, and not give any width at all."

At one point in the final league match, Mills appeared to be offering Kamran Akmal, Zalmi’s leading run-scorer this season, tips on how to play his bouncer.

"He was begging," Mills said. "I had already bowled a bouncer that over, and he was trying to claim that was above his shoulder also.

"I was trying to point out to him he was ducking down, and he needed to stand up taller. I don’t tend to get too involved, unless I’m really, really fired up."

http://www.thenational.ae/sport/cri...low-pitch-to-be-a-boon-against-peshawar-zalmi
 
Tymill Mills has got a good thing going for him, financially. He won't ever be a great of the game but his pace has helped him achieve fame which will allow him to keep milking these T20 leagues for big bucks. 5 more seasons of the IPL and he can retire without worrying about money for the rest of his life.
 
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