"Leave alone foreign coaches, even our local coaches don't want to work with the PCB": Misbah-ul-Haq

[BouncerGuy]

Misbah-ul-Haq speaking to the media:

"If you look at the policies of the board leave alone foreign coaches I don’t think even our local coaches want to work with the PCB,"

"Pakistan cricket should not be run in such a haphazard manner and we need to have long term plans for the team management, selectors and grooming of players. Unfortunately in Pakistan a change in the board leadership changes everything,"

"I believe you can’t make a good team or groom quality players if proper time is not given for this process. We need to look at the systems of some other countries who are successful.”

"Why not I think you can pick the best captain’s as per the needs of the format."

"Our players are also used to conditions in the West Indies so we should be among the front runners."

"If a player is free for say two months why shouldn’t he be allowed to go and earn money in a league but yes giving permission to players before the World Cup was a big mistake.”

"I say have a situation based policy for NOCs and foreign leagues."

"You can say the popularity of T20 cricket has affected ODI cricket but Test format will go on,"
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[Mamoon]

What is wrong with the way PCB is dealing with coaches? Why do coaches expect or demand no accountability.

When the team is not performing, how do you expect to keep your job?

 

[Energy]

This is a classic Misbah statement. Politically agile.

 

[Rana]

The one local coach/administrator/director we don’t want working for the PCB is you Misbah ul Haq

 

[BouncerGuy]

I agree with Misbah’s ideas about planning for the long term in managing teams and training players. Too many Changes up and down in board leadership can mess things up. I also share the same views as he does about having different captains for different formats.

A player should be able to play in foreign leagues if it doesn’t affect their national team duties but should be available when called for national duty as well. His thoughts will make you think like he is a philosopher but he is right most of the time, although he did not follow many of the things he said when he was a player himself LOL

 

[MenInG]

This is a classic Misbah statement. Politically agile.

Kettle, pot....

 

[hitthestump]

What is wrong with the way PCB is dealing with coaches? Why do coaches expect or demand no accountability.

When the team is not performing, how do you expect to keep your job?

PCB needs to learn to manage expectations.

This is comfortably a 5th/6th ranked nation on talent and ability.

If we are expecting immediate results comparable to the Big 3 and NZ then good luck as there are no miracle workers out there.

If we want eventual results to that level then a coach needs time and support, and nobody has had that priviledge recently.

Misbah has a point. Nobody wants to work with us.

 

[Rana]

This is comfortably a 5th/6th ranked nation on talent and ability.

How did you finally reach this conclusion now? I thought we had 4/5 best white ball players in the world who give us respect around the world?

How have you given up on this so early? We were comfortably 5th or 6th with Sarfaraz as captain too. But people like you told us we are massively improved now with the new regime. So what was all that? A massive lie?

 

[zaidihusain]

Can Misbah clarify how many years he wants to give to Captain & Coach?

As far as captaincy is concerned PCB is managing much better than pre 2011 era. If we see after 2011 WC, Misbah was the longest serving captain who captained in ODIs up to 2015 and in test up to 2017 (around 7 years). Azhar Ali was huge failure as test & ODI captain and hence he was replaced by Sarfraz after short stint. Sarfraz also got reasonable amount of time for around 3-4 years as captain but he was also rightly removed after his horrible own performances and repeated defeats in tests & ODIs. Babar also got plenty of time, 5 years in T20s, 4 years in ODIs & 3 years in tests. Mickey Arthur & Grant Flower worked for several years and so is Waqar & Misbah, Saqlain. Misbah himself was at the helm in different roles for maximum years as a player, captain, coach, selector etc but he never tried to think out of the box.

Many players in the current set up are playing since around 4-5 years or even more like Babar, Fakhar, Imam, Shan, Rizwan, Iftikhar, Shaheen, Hasan Ali, Nawaz, Naseem, Harris Rauf

Yes, PCB's management and selection committee keep changing but I honestly believe this should not impact players who are playing since years. SL, Bang, Afghanistan, SA boards also have many issues but still their teams play with more fighting spirit than Pakistan.

 

[kingusama92]

What is wrong with the way PCB is dealing with coaches? Why do coaches expect or demand no accountability.

When the team is not performing, how do you expect to keep your job?

I think in a stable situation you're right. However, any organization will struggle when you change the CEO, VP, and/or managers (chairman, selector) every 3-4 months.

Coaches are too far down the food chain when everything is unsteady at the top.

Regardless, Mickey wasn't good enough this time around and wasn't giving his 100%. A coach like that can't be kept around.

 

[Rana]

Misbah also stated some rubbish about being good at Test cricket will make you naturally good in T20 too.

 

[Mamoon]

PCB needs to learn to manage expectations.

This is comfortably a 5th/6th ranked nation on talent and ability.

If we are expecting immediate results comparable to the Big 3 and NZ then good luck as there are no miracle workers out there.

If we want eventual results to that level then a coach needs time and support, and nobody has had that priviledge recently.

Misbah has a point. Nobody wants to work with us.

Pakistan will always be a 5th/6th ranked cricket nation. That is our capacity and we cannot be better than that no matter who coaches us. We just haven’t got what it takes.

Keeping this in mind, you wouldn’t be able to sack any coach or hold him accountable for the team results because the players aren’t capable, but as a coach you have to be held accountable for the team’s results.

Mickey was given ample time to make an impact and he failed miserably. His statement about Dil Dil Pakistan not being played in the Pakistan-India match was the most embarrassing statement by a coach in history, and that alone was a sack-worthy offense.

The problem is that foreign coaches come to Pakistan with a huge chip on their shoulder. They have an air of entitlement about them and act as if they aren’t coaching Pakistan because they couldn’t land a better job.

They act as if they have done a favor on PCB by coaching Pakistan and are always unhappy when they are held accountable for the team’s performance.

 

[Savak]

Shameless Misbah will still go running back to the PCB if offered a handsome Rs 3-4 million monthly salary plus additional perks and privileges.

 

[Savak]

2-3 years is more than enough for a captain and coach to leave his blueprint on a team. Misbah, Saqlain, Arthur etc all got plenty of time in their respective roles.

 

[Savak]

Can Misbah clarify how many years he wants to give to Captain & Coach?

As far as captaincy is concerned PCB is managing much better than pre 2011 era. If we see after 2011 WC, Misbah was the longest serving captain who captained in ODIs up to 2015 and in test up to 2017 (around 7 years). Azhar Ali was huge failure as test & ODI captain and hence he was replaced by Sarfraz after short stint. Sarfraz also got reasonable amount of time for around 3-4 years as captain but he was also rightly removed after his horrible own performances and repeated defeats in tests & ODIs. Babar also got plenty of time, 5 years in T20s, 4 years in ODIs & 3 years in tests. Mickey Arthur & Grant Flower worked for several years and so is Waqar & Misbah, Saqlain. Misbah himself was at the helm in different roles for maximum years as a player, captain, coach, selector etc but he never tried to think out of the box.

Many players in the current set up are playing since around 4-5 years or even more like Babar, Fakhar, Imam, Shan, Rizwan, Iftikhar, Shaheen, Hasan Ali, Nawaz, Naseem, Harris Rauf

Yes, PCB's management and selection committee keep changing but I honestly believe this should not impact players who are playing since years. SL, Bang, Afghanistan, SA boards also have many issues but still their teams play with more fighting spirit than Pakistan.

A lot of these players like Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Shadab etc have gotten sufficient chances to grow and evolve as cricketers. All of them have badly regressed in these last 4 years because they have now gotten comfortable with their place in the team

 

[Major]

Well he is right, you guys will only shoot the messanger without reading the message.

A coach has to work atleast 2 years to bring in the results he wants. Misbahs focus was on fitness, yet he had to deal with a PCB and selectors who kept pushing for players like Kashif Bhatti and Azam Khan.

Than came rameez and he fires Misbah and says we dont need a coach. For the 7 months that Rameez stayed there was no standard and players just came and went.

Thing is, you need a long term plan and allow the coach on work on that and than ask him after his term is completed.

 

[Major]

2-3 years is more than enough for a captain and coach to leave his blueprint on a team. Misbah, Saqlain, Arthur etc all got plenty of time in their respective roles.

and Misbah as caoch was undefeated at home in test. He got fired before the World T20 only because Rameez Raja wanted to win the World T20 and made sure that no credit could be shared with others

 

[Major]

A lot of these players like Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Shadab etc have gotten sufficient chances to grow and evolve as cricketers. All of them have badly regressed in these last 4 years because they have now gotten comfortable with their place in the team

no. They regressed because of different coaches coming in and everyone having a different plan.

Saqlain believe that it was all Gods doing and did nothinng to fix the team.

 

[msb314]

A lot of these players like Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Shadab etc have gotten sufficient chances to grow and evolve as cricketers. All of them have badly regressed in these last 4 years because they have now gotten comfortable with their place in the team

How about you mention Imam, Sarfraz, Rauf, Hassan Ali as well?

Yes we all enjoyed Fakhar’s 126 in Bangalore but there was a reason he was dropped in the first place..

Don’t pick and choose your favorites

 

[msb314]

and Misbah as caoch was undefeated at home in test. He got fired before the World T20 only because Rameez Raja wanted to win the World T20 and made sure that no credit could be shared with others

LOL we only played SL and Bangladesh at home (2019/20) when Misbah was coach…

 

[Major]

LOL we only played SL and Bangladesh at home (2019/20) when Misbah was coach…

i like how selectively ignored South Africa series win 2-0

 

[Rana]

A lot of these players like Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Shadab etc have gotten sufficient chances to grow and evolve as cricketers. All of them have badly regressed in these last 4 years because they have now gotten comfortable with their place in the team

Rizwan regressed? What did he regress from? Peak Gilchrist level to Dinesh Ramdin?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

May be thats the reason that Wasim Akram hesitates from coaching PCT.

 

[gibsyhesperis]

No one will want to coach Pakistan.
It is not a question of accountability— we know the political interference and involvement is extraordinary (from parties of all hues) who reward their lackies for slavish devotion. They subsequently appoint coaches and scapegoat them when the inevitable failure occurs.
Rinse and repeat.

 

[topspin]

Misbah also stated some rubbish about being good at Test cricket will make you naturally good in T20 too.

I can’t say I’m surprised. He was always behind the times. This is evident by the fact that he was the one to form the Babar and Rizwan opening combination in T20Is, when accumulators were being phased out by other sides.

 

[FearlessRoar]

I see it as his emotional statement. Probably, he is sentimental after losing his job as the head coach.

Pakistan's head coach is such a serious dilemma that we have never solved strategically. And I blame the system for it. And it will go on like this.

 

[Rana]

I can’t say I’m surprised. He was always behind the times. This is evident by the fact that he was the one to form the Babar and Rizwan opening combination in T20Is, when accumulators were being phased out by other sides.

And the curse that he has left behind.

 

[topspin]

Misbah you are part of the reason why foreign coaches don’t want to go anywhere near the PCB.

You were the one who stabbed Mickey in the back after the 2019 World Cup, whilst you were a committee member, merely to take his job for yourself.

This was shortly followed by PCB’s farcical recruitment process, which meant the only competition Misbah had for the Head Coach role was Dean Jones. To top it all off, Misbah was favoured despite his lack of coaching qualifications and zero experience as a coach.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

But question is that if Misbah is offered coaching.. will he refuse it?

 

[Rana]

But question is that if Misbah is offered coaching.. will he refuse it?

Please no.

We already have his Panauti influence still lingering over us.

 

[PakEngFan]

But shameless misbah will accept the role right away.

 

[ahmadharis1]

Realistically why would any man/woman in their right mind want to work for the PCB? It's career suicide unless you're the person on top running things to your every whim

 

[daytrader]

Spot on as usual from Misbah. Continuity and stability are our main problems. We have all the talent in the World but no system to let it flourish. PCB needs to be an independent body

 

[Mohraheem]

Why Misbah still speaking regarding cricket? He failed as a ODI captain Failed as a coach and chief selector!