Lightning doesn’t strike twice - India will win the 3rd Test against South Africa

[London_Lahori]

Let’s be honest, India would have been disappointed with themselves for letting a sub standard South Africa chase 240 in the previous test.

This ATG Indian fast bowling lineup won’t make the same mistake twice. India win by 20-40 runs.

 

[Buffet]

India is short by 35-40 runs here.

Lightening does not have to strike twice to chase this total.

 

[Unbiased-Fan]

Everyday is not Sunday.
India gonna win this.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

We are short of 50 runs here.
SA will chase easily.

 

[silentkiller187]

Good bit of reverse psychology by OP, to be h0nest i think india are 30-50 runs short, only takes one of SA batters to gets going like Pant they should win, will be a good bowling effort if india win from here.

 

[London_Lahori]

People need to look at the Indian scorecard and realise this is a 150 pitch in the 4th innings.

 

[JaDed]

Jinx thread clearly, we are 50 short here

 

[Romali_rotti]

How shattered would the OP be if India actually pulls this off ?? lol the Burnn he would get...

But

Indians are a good 60 runs short, and it is the fault of their top order, they will learn and come back next time and conquer SA hopefully...

 

[Mobashir]

How shattered would the OP be if India actually pulls this off ?? lol the Burnn he would get...

But

Indians are a good 60 runs short, and it is the fault of their top order, they will learn and come back next time and conquer SA hopefully...

What a loosers mentality this is!

 

[ChTab]

How shattered would the OP be if India actually pulls this off ?? lol the Burnn he would get...

But

Indians are a good 60 runs short, and it is the fault of their top order, they will learn and come back next time and conquer SA hopefully...

This is the best chance India could ever get to win a test series in SA. If they don't win it this time who knows what will happen by next time they travel SA. Maybe SA unearth 2 great batting prospect or India loses the quality in their fast bowling which has made them so lethal in last 3 years.

 

[sweep_shot]

South Africa should win this one too.

I thought India were 20-30 runs short.

 

[PakPremi]

SA will win but with few hiccups, Peterson playing positive has almost sealed the deal.

 

[James]

Going to be really close… I do think that South Africa are favourites from this position though.

 

[MenInG]

Seems writing on the wall for India ... to some!

 

[pillionrider]

The break in the form of end of play came before all hope was lost. The team was distracted by their own booming voices on the stump mics until then. Elgar's wicket was a bonus.

Bumrah, Shami will get breakthroughs, but Ashwin might just win it for India

 

[shamaan]

The break in the form of end of play came before all hope was lost. The team was distracted by their own booming voices on the stump mics until then. Elgar's wicket was a bonus.

Bumrah, Shami will get breakthroughs, but Ashwin might just win it for India

Kohli absolutely lost the pot and if they do loose il say its due to that hours play.

 

[shamaan]

They India were about 50 runs short.

 

[gazza619]

Seems writing on the wall for India ... to some!

You never know.

 

[krazystrong]

You're saying lightning doesn't strike twice as if SA chased 350 last game and have a target of 350+ again

The target last game was 240 and this game it's 210, barely anything substantial

 

[CricVet]

If it was a 5th day wicket, Ind would be favorite. SA should win it by a couple of wickets.

 

[Savak]

Just saw the highlights, Indian bowlers did not look threatening or penetrative at all in the second innings in comparison to the SA bowlers. SA should win this. This will be a huge result for them because Indians were huge favorites coming into this series.

 

[MenInG]

So will SA win or Indian win?

Vote in the poll.

 

[Unbiased-Fan]

Everyday is not Sunday.
India gonna win this.

I'm taking back my words. RSA clear favourites now.

 

[London_Lahori]

Almost double the amount of swing today than any other day in this test.

 

[James]

Massive task for India now, only 68 needed.

 

[Amjid Javed]

If india lose this series 2-1 then indian fans should blame losing the toss like the last series. Oh wait a minute they won all 3 tosses here.

 

[Artaxerxes]

The post jinxed India.I can’t see India winning this test

 

[90MPH]

There is plenty of movement and bounce on this wicket - even 150 could have been defended if they bowled out of their skins.

If they don’t defend 200 then India can only blame themsleves really - you couldn’t ask for a better wicket to defend such a score.

 

[90MPH]

They India were about 50 runs short.

Totally disagree with this assessment.

India have more than enough runs to defend this score.

Fact is they were a bit unlucky but also not consistent enough on this wicket.

There is more than enough movement and bounce to defend it. They can’t blame the batting.

They had the bowlers and the wicket to help them defend it but they didn’t deliver (so it seems at this stage.

 

[Major]

How shattered would the OP be if India actually pulls this off ?? lol the Burnn he would get...

But

Indians are a good 60 runs short, and it is the fault of their top order, they will learn and come back next time and conquer SA hopefully...

looks like your the one that got shattered.

The over rated attack of India, only took 3 wickets against SA. 60 runs would had made no difference here

 

[London_Lahori]

Guess the ATG Indian fast bowling attack is overrated also. I got suckered in.

Both test matches, to lose by 7 wickets on these wickets. Guess their bowlers are chokers too. Pathetic.

 

[Varun]

Home series against West Indies coming up. No better time to try out a couple of new middle order bats.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Keegan Peterson was just too good in this match

 

[IMMY69]

Guess the ATG Indian fast bowling attack is overrated also. I got suckered in.

Both test matches, to lose by 7 wickets on these wickets. Guess their bowlers are chokers too. Pathetic.

plus the wicket was doing all sorts.. variable bounce, swing and seam movement and even taking some spin.

 

[London_Lahori]

plus the wicket was doing all sorts.. variable bounce, swing and seam movement and even taking some spin.

It really was, there was a graphic that showed there was 2 degrees swing today, the other days varied between 0.4-1.0.

Horrible effort from the bowlers.

 

[topspin]

How shattered would the OP be if India actually pulls this off ?? lol the Burnn he would get...

But

Indians are a good 60 runs short, and it is the fault of their top order, they will learn and come back next time and conquer SA hopefully...

Someone give this guy a tissue.

 

[CricVet]

Indians lost the plot for their captain's antics that rubbed on to the rest of the members. I thought that this guy has matured...This game could have been more exciting if not for the juvenile behavior from the entire Ind team. What bunch of cry babies.

 

[Civil]

Credit to SA. This has to go down as one of their most historic wins. The top test side and one that came with every intention to win.

I would say post t20 world cup all indian fans and indian think tank was focusing every ounce of energy on this series and saying test cricket is their prized goal. Credit to India they played good hard cricket save for a few innings.

So this for me has to really be about celebrating Elgar and his men!

 

[James]

Credit to SA. This has to go down as one of their most historic wins. The top test side and one that came with every intention to win.

I would say post t20 world cup all indian fans and indian think tank was focusing every ounce of energy on this series and saying test cricket is their prized goal. Credit to India they played good hard cricket save for a few innings.

So this for me has to really be about celebrating Elgar and his men!

Indeed!

A fine and fair summary of the series outcome.

 

[pillionrider]

I haven't followed what's been happening in South African cricket too much, but from the word going around, you'd think they were headed the West Indies way.

I watched the 1st and 3rd test properly and Elgar as captain seems tougher than most people seem to credit him. They've got two really good young batsmen in Petersen and Bavuma. Dussen's got an irritating face but seems tough as nails and dependable. Bowling will always be good, so not sure, where the demise of South African cricket is coming from.

 

[shamaan]

Totally disagree with this assessment.

India have more than enough runs to defend this score.

Fact is they were a bit unlucky but also not consistent enough on this wicket.

There is more than enough movement and bounce to defend it. They can’t blame the batting.

They had the bowlers and the wicket to help them defend it but they didn’t deliver (so it seems at this stage.

Even the commentators stated they would have liked 300ish.

200+ requires 1 partnership.

They south africa had the best condition with the bat and only odd ball misbehaving.the game was lost when they didn't pick early wickets and when kohli absolutely lost it.

 

[Savak]

Bumrah imo relies more on full and good length deliveries. He didn't use the bouncer enough to set up the batsman unlike the South Africans. As time went on, the South African's got used to his usual lengths, whippy action, short run up and hyper extension.

 

[Cric1234]

India failed to beat the weakest SA batting lineup for decades although their fast bowling is still almost as strong as before.

A transitional period could be on the way for India in tests a few of their top order batsmen will need to be replaced they will still be strong in home conditions but will probably be weaker in SENA next time around.

 

[Romali_rotti]

looks like your the one that got shattered.

The over rated attack of India, only took 3 wickets against SA. 60 runs would had made no difference here

Actually you are correct, an extra 60 runs would not have made a difference, Indian bowlers were not good in the second innings.. We will hopefully finish the job next tour..

ATleast we have Pant instead of Rizwan, that calms the being shattered effect

 

[The Googly]

1. Had a huge advantage in winning toss THREE times.

2. Twice they were in a winning position - bowling on a wearing pitch with a tricky total to chase for the team batting last. Ideal bowling conditions.

3. And they didn't even come blinkin close. 2 wickets in the 2nd test. 3 in this test. On a wearing pitch offering every assistance.

If anyone ever says calls these clowns ATGs - please wear a clown costume first ;
- "I am the only all time great to have a bowling average > 27 Shami"
- "I've played 26 tests only and taken 113 wickets and am 29 and I have not been able to win 2 crucial matches in ideal conditions but I'm an ATG Bumrah"
- "I'm garbage unless I play at home on dustbowls Ashwin"
- "I'm an overweight village cricket trundler and couldn't break the skin on a bowl of rice pudding with my bowling Thakur"

Listen - I'm teasing. They are GOOD. They deserve credit. But great?? Delusional.

 

[pillionrider]

looks like your the one that got shattered.

The over rated attack of India, only took 3 wickets against SA. 60 runs would had made no difference here

You really don't watch the game do you?

Bumrah and Shami's opening spell was something else. Another day, one of those would have got a nick, Pujara might have actually held on to a catch, and SA might have got the jitters.

But as I said, Petersen is quality and he put all his plays and misses behind him and pulled out some amazing shots once the fire had simmered down.

 

[James]

In reality I don’t think India had enough runs to win the third Test in the end. It was always going to take a monumental batting collapse for them not to chase 210ish in home conditions. 280-300 would have been a much closer game I think.

 

[Junaids]

1. Had a huge advantage in winning toss THREE times.

2. Twice they were in a winning position - bowling on a wearing pitch with a tricky total to chase for the team batting last. Ideal bowling conditions.

3. And they didn't even come blinkin close. 2 wickets in the 2nd test. 3 in this test. On a wearing pitch offering every assistance.

If anyone ever says calls these clowns ATGs - please wear a clown costume first ;
- "I am the only all time great to have a bowling average > 27 Shami"
- "I've played 26 tests only and taken 113 wickets and am 29 and I have not been able to win 2 crucial matches in ideal conditions but I'm an ATG Bumrah"
- "I'm garbage unless I play at home on dustbowls Ashwin"
- "I'm an overweight village cricket trundler and couldn't break the skin on a bowl of rice pudding with my bowling Thakur"

Listen - I'm teasing. They are GOOD. They deserve credit. But great?? Delusional.

The reason why Indians get excited about this bowling attack is because for the first time ever they have an attack which isn't outclassed in SENA by all opposition.

They won the occasional SENA series previously because of their batting.

But consider this comparison of pace attacks:

Bumrah / Shami / Siraj / Thakur
Boult / Southee / Jameson / Wagner
Starc / Hazlewood / Cummins / Green
Anderson / Broad / Archer / Stokes
Rabada / Nigidi / Jansen / Olivier

It's immediately clear that India has a pace attack which is not outclassed by the four SENA teams.

But it's also clear that India's pace attack is inferior to the four SENA teams, even now.

To be honest, I don't think India's pace attack is necessarily better than:

Shaheen / Hasan Ali / Naseem Shah / Faheem Ashraf

 

[Buffet]

Some posters talk non-sense in so many threads. Just by posting and interacting someone could learn a bit.

Just use this thread for example about outclassing,

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Away bowling average in the last 6 years for all teams,

India 26
Aus 29
SA 31
..
Everyone else

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Over all bowling average in the last 6 years for all teams,

India 25
SA 26
Aus 28
..
Everyone else


Clearly, India is simply an outstanding bowling unit for a very long time now in all conditions. That's the reason they outclass other bowling units.

Other teams can't compete in India and the reverse is not true despite ordinary Indian batting. The Indian bowling unit has been outstanding for a long time.

 

[Buffet]

How many bowling units in the entire history of cricket have averaged 25-26 home and away both for 6-7 years? Not liking a team is one thing, but showing ignorance is another.

SA team played brilliantly and give them some credit.

 

[Junaids]

Some posters talk non-sense in so many threads. Just by posting and interacting someone could learn a bit.

Just use this thread for example about outclassing,

---------------------------

Away bowling average in the last 6 years for all teams,

India 26
Aus 29
SA 31
..
Everyone else

--------------------------

Over all bowling average in the last 6 years for all teams,

India 25
SA 26
Aus 28
..
Everyone else


Clearly, India is simply an outstanding bowling unit for a very long time now in all conditions. That's the reason they outclass other bowling units.

Other teams can't compete in India and the reverse is not true despite ordinary Indian batting. The Indian bowling unit has been outstanding for a long time.

By definition, the SENA teams have more of their away matches in Asia than India does.

 

[Buffet]

By definition, the SENA teams have more of their away matches in Asia than India does.

How many SENA teams have won series, oops tests, in India in the last 6 years? Is it 1 or 2 ??

Meanwhile, Indians won plenty of tests in SENA in the last 6 years. They have produced fantastic test series in Aus, SA, Eng etc... That's due to their outstanding bowling unit. Their batting is not that great.

Who cares if SENA teams win in SL or BD. The real test is to go and win some tests if not the series in India right now. No one cares if SENA teams won in Bradman's era. The old record is just an old record and not really fun for fans. Look at eng, they have won in Aus in past, but who cares about it now. Go ahead and play some good cricket right now and make it interesting for fans. That's what matters.

If SENA teams can make a match in India then it's fun. I loved watching the Aus series in India last time. Fans want to see that kind of series.

 

[Robert]

This ATG Indian fast bowling lineup won’t make the same mistake twice. India win by 20-40 runs.

Oops.

 

[pillionrider]

Oops.

You talking about England's Ashes adventures?

 

[MenInG]

You talking about England's Ashes adventures?

Thread about India - why do you think he is talking about The Ashes?

Getting a bit stupid reminding posters all the time to stick to topic.

 

[DRsohail]

Not ATG but surely best attack int he world in last 5 years.

 

[Major]

You really don't watch the game do you?

Bumrah and Shami's opening spell was something else. Another day, one of those would have got a nick, Pujara might have actually held on to a catch, and SA might have got the jitters.

But as I said, Petersen is quality and he put all his plays and misses behind him and pulled out some amazing shots once the fire had simmered down.

Ifs mights and buts....

India got a beating. Only 3 wickets one of which wasnt even out....

Also peterson is just avg not as good as people are making out to be. It was hust that the bowling attack was bad

 

[London_Lahori]

Actually you are correct, an extra 60 runs would not have made a difference, Indian bowlers were not good in the second innings.. We will hopefully finish the job next tour..

ATleast we have Pant instead of Rizwan, that calms the being shattered effect

Yeh, Pant’s 169 runs in 6 innings really showed everyone

 

[Romali_rotti]

Yeh, Pant’s 169 runs in 6 innings really showed everyone

Rizwan, has zero match winning innings or 100s in SENA and is now moving into the 30s. Yeah Pant would do just fine over Rizwan

 

[krazystrong]

Rizwan, has zero match winning innings or 100s in SENA and is now moving into the 30s. Yeah Pant would do just fine over Rizwan

Lol Rizwan also doesn't get 30 innings to try and get them either. Pant can be embarrassed in 5 innings and then hack a century in his last innings, like in this series, multiple times. Since Rizwan has come into the side, we've played what? 7 tests in SENA (2 of which were ruined by rain in England).

 

[Cric1234]

Oops.

It’s more of a jinx comment and thread looks like but it worked for OP as India lost no doubt if they won Mamoon and and others would’ve come out and been going hoopla over the great win things quieten down when losses happen.

 

[Stewie]

the jinx worked