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The best metric would always be to simply dig into stats vs top 8 opponents because ultimately this thread is about stat padding and to further drill down the stats vs major cricket nations( WI and SL must be included in T20Is):
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...n;team=6;team=7;template=results;type=batting
If you go by this link, the top 4 batsman sorted by batting average(with 500+ runs) are :-
1. Pandey( 49)
2. Rizwan( 49)
3. Kohli (48)
4. Babar (45)
And their strike rates are :
1. Pandey 128
2. Rizwan 132
3. Kohli 138
4. Babar 130
If we combine both the metrics and figure the best ranking, it would be :
1. Kohli 48, 138
2. Rizwan 49, 132
3. Pandey 49, 128 / Babar 45, 130
<B>To conclude, Babar has simply been producing similar output as Pandey did for India. Rizwan thanks to his consistency has maintained a slightly better average but each of the three falls in stats padders list.
Kohli on other hand remains the ultimate T20 anchor in the game as he maintains an average of 48 and at a strike rate of 138 vs top 8 opponents</B>.
Note :- MS Dhoni, a lower middle order batsman also has a strike rate of 123 in T20s
Hit the nail on the thread.The best metric would always be to simply dig into stats vs top 8 opponents because ultimately this thread is about stat padding and to further drill down the stats vs major cricket nations( WI and SL must be included in T20Is):
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...n;team=6;team=7;template=results;type=batting
If you go by this link, the top 4 batsman sorted by batting average(with 500+ runs) are :-
1. Pandey( 49)
2. Rizwan( 49)
3. Kohli (48)
4. Babar (45)
And their strike rates are :
1. Pandey 128
2. Rizwan 132
3. Kohli 138
4. Babar 130
If we combine both the metrics and figure the best ranking, it would be :
1. Kohli 48, 138
2. Rizwan 49, 132
3. Pandey 49, 128 / Babar 45, 130
<B>To conclude, Babar has simply been producing similar output as Pandey did for India. Rizwan thanks to his consistency has maintained a slightly better average but each of the three falls in stats padders list.
Kohli on other hand remains the ultimate T20 anchor in the game as he maintains an average of 48 and at a strike rate of 138 vs top 8 opponents</B>.
Note :- MS Dhoni, a lower middle order batsman also has a strike rate of 123 in T20s
Completely seals the debate and the goal of the thread too. A certain troll seems to have lost his mind already and started looking at ICC rankings as if those stats are presented by BCCI and not Cricinfo.
The conclusion is that if you are looking at a benchmark for an anchor, that is Virat Kohli.
Others like Manish Pandey, Babar Azam and Rizwan have been basically stat padders maintaining strike rate of 130 against top 8 opponents.
Completely seals the debate and the goal of the thread too. A certain troll seems to have lost his mind already and started looking at ICC rankings as if those stats are presented by BCCI and not Cricinfo.
The conclusion is that if you are looking at a benchmark for an anchor, that is Virat Kohli.
Others like Manish Pandey, Babar Azam and Rizwan have been basically stat padders maintaining strike rate of 130 against top 8 opponents.
The best metric would always be to simply dig into stats vs top 8 opponents because ultimately this thread is about stat padding and to further drill down the stats vs major cricket nations( WI and SL must be included in T20Is):
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...n;team=6;team=7;template=results;type=batting
If you go by this link, the top 4 batsman sorted by batting average(with 500+ runs) are :-
1. Pandey( 49)
2. Rizwan( 49)
3. Kohli (48)
4. Babar (45)
And their strike rates are :
1. Pandey 128
2. Rizwan 132
3. Kohli 138
4. Babar 130
If we combine both the metrics and figure the best ranking, it would be :
1. Kohli 48, 138
2. Rizwan 49, 132
3. Pandey 49, 128 / Babar 45, 130
<B>To conclude, Babar has simply been producing similar output as Pandey did for India. Rizwan thanks to his consistency has maintained a slightly better average but each of the three falls in stats padders list.
Kohli on other hand remains the ultimate T20 anchor in the game as he maintains an average of 48 and at a strike rate of 138 vs top 8 opponents</B>.
Note :- MS Dhoni, a lower middle order batsman also has a strike rate of 123 in T20s
I think you have lost the plot here. Take help from your brother [MENTION=151350]Mesozoic[/MENTION] who is going on and on about Babar not chasing 170+ totals against full strength attacks. Sit down with him and explain the same thing to him that a playe can't chase or win you the tournament alone, he did his job with the bat blah blah blah.
<B>Suddenly winning matches is not a criteria</B> when looking at stats because it doesn't suite one's agenda.
What a comical post. It is you who has lost the plot and started trolling suddenly.
I said about winning tournaments (which one player alone can't do and not matches only lol.
When did Babar win Pakistan a World T20 tournament? Care to explain this before you go into trolling mode and by the way, Kohli has anyways win far more T20 World Cup matches than Babar can even dream only.
Good to see finally someone showing guts to quote me. One of the poster who seems to be quoting me on every post was no longer seen till now
Context is important but what conclusions are we really gonna derive with such small samples and players playing their matches in those specific venues in different phases of their career.
For example, when I use the same link and include host countries as SENA, SL and WI ( basically filtering out India, UAE and Pakistan) among host countries, we find that Manish Pandey has a Bradmanesque numbers in T20Is, with average of 114 at strike rate of 133.
Kohli and Rohit have been playing from long time so that sample is basically spread over careers of 13-14 years.
Ultimately, you have to look at performance vs top 8 opponents if you really want to filter out the minnows and associates. That is the only valid metric applicable and that proves that Babar, Rizwan and Pandey have been the biggest stats padder in T20Is from both the nations.
I asked you to mention how many of those stat padding innings helped their team win? It's simple for you, isn't it?
And where did I say Babar won a T20 WC? Are you dumb? I am talking about matches and this covers all the matches not only the world cup ones. Why are you getting so defensive now? You were looking pretty confident about your stats few hours ago.
As usual you continue behaving like a dumb guy. Can you care to provide some insights on the analysis that I did which basically puts Babar and Rizwan in same league as Manish Pandey and behind Kohli ,Rohit, Rahul and Suryakumar, i.e., as many as 4 Indian batters. Why are your running away from answering to this, are you a scared chicken who has got no insights on the game?
Why are you acting like a deer in a headlight when asked a simple question and start trolling instead, showing inability to come up with a meaningful post
I think you have lost the plot here. Take help from your brother [MENTION=151350]Mesozoic[/MENTION] who is going on and on about Babar not chasing 170+ totals against full strength attacks. Sit down with him and explain the same thing to him that a playe can't chase or win you the tournament alone, he did his job with the bat blah blah blah.
Suddenly winning matches is not a criteria when looking at stats because it doesn't suite one's agenda.
But you were saying he doesn't chase because his bowlers don't allow opponents to score big totals. And now you are saying he can't do it alone? You were also saying he couldn't chase because Shaheen was not playing to restrict other teams...
Talk about pure unadulterated mental gymnasium lol.
The best metric would always be to simply dig into stats vs top 8 opponents because ultimately this thread is about stat padding and to further drill down the stats vs major cricket nations( WI and SL must be included in T20Is):
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...n;team=6;team=7;template=results;type=batting
If you go by this link, the top 4 batsman sorted by batting average(with 500+ runs) are :-
1. Pandey( 49)
2. Rizwan( 49)
3. Kohli (48)
4. Babar (45)
And their strike rates are :
1. Pandey 128
2. Rizwan 132
3. Kohli 138
4. Babar 130
If we combine both the metrics and figure the best ranking, it would be :
1. Kohli 48, 138
2. Rizwan 49, 132
3. Pandey 49, 128 / Babar 45, 130
<B>To conclude, Babar has simply been producing similar output as Pandey did for India. Rizwan thanks to his consistency has maintained a slightly better average but each of the three falls in stats padders list.
Kohli on other hand remains the ultimate T20 anchor in the game as he maintains an average of 48 and at a strike rate of 138 vs top 8 opponents</B>.
Note :- MS Dhoni, a lower middle order batsman also has a strike rate of 123 in T20s
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Don't expect him to reply when it comes to stats in UAE.
Here are the stats of Indian players in UAE:
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...al1=span;team=6;template=results;type=batting
1.) Kohli - Matches: 5 Avg: 32.2 SR: 108
2.) Rohit - Matches: 5 Avg: 25.5 SR: 140
3.) Pandya - Matches: 5 Avg: 21 SR: 131
4.) Pant - Matches: 4 Avg: 20 SR: 110
5.) Sky - Matches: 4 Avg: 19 SR: 116
6. ) KL Rahul - Matches 5 Avg: 11 SR: 105
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...al1=span;team=7;template=results;type=batting
Babar on the other hand averages 40 with a strike rate of 116 in 18 matches.
Rizwan averages 49 with a strike rate of 119 in 9 matches.
Putting SriLanka and West Indies in the same filter as Namibia.
Babar's strike rate is 129 despite starting t20 career in 2017.
[MENTION=43051]Mobashir[/MENTION]
Your post is a pretty good example of how people twist stats to suit their agenda lol.
I asked you multiple times about the results of those matches where these guys were stat padding because I knew you were hiding something.
I just added that in the query and this is what I got.
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...n;team=6;team=7;template=results;type=batting
1.) Mohammed Rizwan - Avg 77.53, SR 143
2.) Virat Kohli - Avg 61.94, SR 139.42
3.) Babar Azam - Avg 52.10 SR 133.81
4.) KL Rahul - Avg 43 SR 138
5.) Dhoni - Avg 43 SR 140
Since Babar and Rizwan opened the inning and Rizwan was mostly the one who was attacking most of the time Babar played a role of an anchor just like Kohli.
And a surprise for you that Manish Pandey is not even in the list. May be that is why you were reluctant to add this query even after I requested it multiple times.
Another funny thing about your stat is Dhoni having a strike rate of 140 at a position which according to you guys is the toughest to bat on.
Let's see the balls faced by all these batsmen according to your query:
1.) Manish Pandey - 495 balls
2.) Rizwan - 1306 balls
3.) Kohli - 2397 balls
4.) Babar - 1853 balls
5) KL Rahul - 1165 balls
6) MS Dhoni - 1166 balls
7) Rohit Sharma - 2080 balls
Only a fool and someone who just wants to troll here will put Manish Pandey in the same league as these guys.
I would like to see how more you can twist your own stats to put Manish Pandey in the same league as Babar and Rizwan.
Lol why don't you care to respond to my data. I already responded to that, the sample is 2, 3 or 5 match, that's not enough to make a conclusion. How many times do I have to say the same thing again?
Now respond to my data as it seems you already ran away from that lol
Lol why don't you care to respond to my data. I already responded to that, the sample is 2, 3 or 5 match, that's not enough to make a conclusion. How many times do I have to say the same thing again?
Now respond to my data as it seems you already ran away from that lol
