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Luis Suarez retires from International football [Update at Post#234]

Amir said:
Ok finally have some time to weigh in. Very funny to those that said Evra should be banned if he was lying. The same people now still believe he is lying and don't accept it . :))

As for Suarez has a black heritage. Just rubbish. Black people can be as racist as anyone else and just because you are different colour does not absolve you of any blame. Cultural differences is no excuse, otherwise all those who believe it is, then you should give the same benefit to Harbhajan in the Andrew Symonds case. You live in England, you work in England and you follow English culture. Suarez knew what he was saying, or otherwise he wouldn't have repeated it 10 times. Like Sully said, rather than make it seem like it is okay to say it (regardless of culture), just admit you were misinformed and now you know.

For Liverpool FC's role in all this, pathetic. They are a huge club but the manner they have behaved this whole saga has been amateurish. United conducted themselves professionally throughout this event; keeping quiet and saying nothing ill of Liverpool. Liverpool on the other hand were making media statements during the case and now when the result does not go in their favour, rather than do damage control or just give a simple 'we are disappointed' statement - they went one further by trying to justify what he said was okay and then accusing the victim of being a liar.
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Was just about to post but no need to after this as you have echoed my views.

All I will add is that to all these people saying Evra shouldn't be believed because of this supposed "past history" of lying-

- Firstly, none of us has been privy to the evidence that was presented at the hearing and based on which Suarez was found guilty.

So it is ridiculous for people to suggest that Suarez was charged and found guilty based purely on Evra's word. In any event, it seems like Suarez has admitted that he used the word(s) in question anyway in which case proof isn't required.

- Secondly, these myths about Evra's supposed track record of accusing people of racism need to be addressed.

As Sully mentioned, the incident at Stamford Bridge was reported by a member of the Manchester United coaching staff, not Evra.

The incident with Steve Finnan involved members of the public raising a compaint (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_2369002,00.html). Again, nothing to do with Evra.

I agree that Evra is no angel on the pitch, and is the type of player who has the propensity to wind up opposition fans. However, that doesn't mean to say everyone should just jump on the bandwagon with the Suarez incident and say "oh it's just Evra, he just accuses everyone of being racist" because that simply isn't true.
 
sully3 said:
You speak absolute rubbish - stop spreading lies

Evra never accused the Chelsea ground staff of making a racist remark, it was the man utd goal keeping coach

and neither did he accuse Laurent Blanc of racism, show me one statement where these words came out his Evras mouth.
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well if it was manuniteds goal keeping coach why is patrice evra brawling with him

the chelsea people claimed he said fupping idiot whereas others and evra reckon he said effing immigrant



the laurent blanc thing i heard on tv during the time that he accused blanc of having a quota of players of mixed race..and then along with anelka caused intrigues
i could find alot of articles before and for some reason now i cant


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but then a while later it was proven that blanc was making quotas in some tape leak so fair enough to evra for that( just found this out nowww)
 
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I understand and respect what most Utd fans are saying here, it is a serious issue both in Society and in Football (I should know, playing sunday league football is like walking into a BNP meeting)

However, I am of the persuasion that if Suarez had met Evra after the game to try and 'explain' what he had meant these months of constant bickering wouldnt have happened. Suarez made a mistake in that regard and is going to have to pay for it.
 
This is abit confusing, Evra stated to the FA he doesn't think Suarez is racist, and the FA themselves stated they didn't think he was racist. He didn't use the word n****r.

Does anyone know what was really said, negro or negrito? 8 matches seems a little harsh if wasn't really using racist language but i can understand Evra being upset if he thought he was being called a racist slur, and negro/negrito don't sound altogether friendly terms to say to black guy. I hope the FA explain the details properly.

I guess John Terry will be having sleepless nights now, rightly so if hes guilty.
 
"One of the few sympathetic voices in the immediate aftermath of the guilty verdict came from the Liverpool Echo's James Pearce. "Not one of Evra's team-mates came forward to back up his serious allegations, including goalkeeper David De Gea, who speaks Spanish. Suárez, for his part, admitted to saying: 'Why, negrito?' to Evra on one occasion after Evra said: 'Don't touch me, you South American.' The word 'negrito' is Spanish for black and in his native South America it is not deemed to be offensive. Someone with black hair is often called that without any malice intended … strangely, those linguistic and cultural differences appear to have carried little weight with the commission."
 
What a ****ing disgrace. To ban Luis on the words of a known and proven liar is so pathetic. As if he didnt get hounded out enough at away grounds, this will just take it to the next level. But, Luis is not the one who runs away so for people suggesting he might leave the country because of this are celebrating a bit too early. Kenny's next press conf will be great! And as for the club statement? F**king LOVE IT! couldn't have been a bigger F U in 'official words'!

and I hope Luis scores a hatrick today and then sticks up the middle finger to the cameras! ******
 
BoomBoomAli said:
I understand and respect what most Utd fans are saying here, it is a serious issue both in Society and in Football (I should know, playing sunday league football is like walking into a BNP meeting)

However, I am of the persuasion that if Suarez had met Evra after the game to try and 'explain' what he had meant these months of constant bickering wouldnt have happened. Suarez made a mistake in that regard and is going to have to pay for it.
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I don't think Suarez is innocent at all. He said what he did full well knowing what he said. No explanation is going to justify he was saying "mate." This is not a simple misunderstanding and LFC know this or else they wouldn't find the need to back peddle.

Nonetheless, I agree with you that 8 games is excessive. I think a 3 game ban at most is warranted. This whole saga does seem a little petty but then again I never been in Evra's position so I don't know how strongly he feels about it. Then again, I easily forgive people.
 
Amir said:
I don't think Suarez is innocent at all. He said what he did full well knowing what he said. No explanation is going to justify he was saying "mate." This is not a simple misunderstanding and LFC know this or else they wouldn't find the need to back peddle.

Nonetheless, I agree with you that 8 games is excessive. I think a 3 game ban at most is warranted. This whole saga does seem a little petty but then again I never been in Evra's position so I don't know how strongly he feels about it. Then again, I easily forgive people.
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Thankyou! Someone with common sense finally.

LOL @ Geordie suggesting 3 years. dear god
 
I do think however after appeal they will reduce the ban to like 5 games or something. but 8 is fricking redicilous! FFFFFF**K you FA! I think its time to switch the international team to like Spain or something lol
 
Why is Terry being investigated by police? Did he say something (allegedly) more serious?
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
He is facing a criminal charge of racially aggravated assault, due to appear before West London Magistrates' Court on 1 February
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How much do you want to bet that John 'Englands brave' Terry gets away with nothing or less games banned than Suarez?
 
Prince_Pathan said:
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well if it was manuniteds goal keeping coach why is patrice evra brawling with him

the chelsea people claimed he said fupping idiot whereas others and evra reckon he said effing immigrant



the laurent blanc thing i heard on tv during the time that he accused blanc of having a quota of players of mixed race..and then along with anelka caused intrigues
i could find alot of articles before and for some reason now i cant


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but then a while later it was proven that blanc was making quotas in some tape leak so fair enough to evra for that( just found this out nowww)
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when did i ever say Evra was not involved in a brawl with the ground staff?
In the report of the incident Evra didn't say anything about racism as we was fighting and did not hear what he had said
It was the goal keeping coach who mentioned in his report (as he was trying to stop Evra from clashing) that the ground keeper was racist.

Evra did not say it once, please get your fact straight before you cause people of shouting racism just how you were proved wrong about Blanc situation
 
Anfield said:
taking lessons from Evra you see :yk

lol but no



thought thats what you were suggesting here. Apologies if you weren't :)
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I was certainly not suggesting a 3 year ban, I was simply stating that an 8 game ban is not a joke when you consider someone in the crowd would get a 3 year ban
 
arite so just for laughs here is a brilliant post on a Liverpool forum. This is the poster's suggestion to players as to what they should to show support for Luis..quite honestly one of the funniest things Ive ever read :))) :)))

i have a very efective idea can someone pass it to those in the know. ITK!!!

just before kick off when the cameras are on, the team forms a circle chain chanting very loudly, "NEGRITO! NEGRITO! NEGRITO!

Then in the midddle out pops a smiling glen johnson pulling up his jersey to reveal a t-shirt of suarez with a text saying. "OUR SUAREZ IS A FRIEND TO ALL COLOURS!"

this all ends with a loud "we willl never walk alone!" war cry from all the players1
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Anfield said:
What a ****ing disgrace. To ban Luis on the words of a known and proven liar is so pathetic. As if he didnt get hounded out enough at away grounds, this will just take it to the next level. But, Luis is not the one who runs away so for people suggesting he might leave the country because of this are celebrating a bit too early. Kenny's next press conf will be great! And as for the club statement? F**king LOVE IT! couldn't have been a bigger F U in 'official words'!

and I hope Luis scores a hatrick today and then sticks up the middle finger to the cameras! ******
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Firstly Evra is not a 'known' liar and secondly he was not banned on the words of Evra BUT rather he himself admitted the words he used

I would cringe if my club released a statement like that (actually they have released some turd under this current ownership), it is pathetic and does them no good
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
Firstly Evra is not a 'known' liar and secondly he was not banned on the words of Evra BUT rather he himself admitted the words he used

I would cringe if my club released a statement like that (actually they have released some turd under this current ownership), it is pathetic and does them no good
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so they are banning Luis on his own words? so they believe that he used the words? LOL then how come they didn't believe that he didnt mean to use the term 'negrito' in that context?

Statement is brilliant. outsiders view it otherwise so we'll agree to disagree.
 
oh and apparently Liverpool players will warm up in Suarez's shirts! :D LOVE IT if true!
 
Amir said:
Ok finally have some time to weigh in. Very funny to those that said Evra should be banned if he was lying. The same people now still believe he is lying and don't accept it . :))

As for Suarez has a black heritage. Just rubbish. Black people can be as racist as anyone else and just because you are different colour does not absolve you of any blame. Cultural differences is no excuse, otherwise all those who believe it is, then you should give the same benefit to Harbhajan in the Andrew Symonds case. You live in England, you work in England and you follow English culture. Suarez knew what he was saying, or otherwise he wouldn't have repeated it 10 times. Like Sully said, rather than make it seem like it is okay to say it (regardless of culture), just admit you were misinformed and now you know.

For Liverpool FC's role in all this, pathetic. They are a huge club but the manner they have behaved this whole saga has been amateurish. United conducted themselves professionally throughout this event; keeping quiet and saying nothing ill of Liverpool. Liverpool on the other hand were making media statements during the case and now when the result does not go in their favour, rather than do damage control or just give a simple 'we are disappointed' statement - they went one further by trying to justify what he said was okay and then accusing the victim of being a liar.
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Agreed, that statement by them was awful and it appears like it was written to get all Liverpool fans excited (clearly worked)

If they intend to appeal then it makes that statement even more pathetic

and LOL at the him having a black grandparent, it is as ridiculous as the 'I can't be racist cos I have black friends' line of defence
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
Agreed, that statement by them was awful and it appears like it was written to get all Liverpool fans excited (clearly worked)

If they intend to appeal then it makes that statement even more pathetic

and LOL at the him having a black grandparent, it is as ridiculous as the 'I can't be racist cos I have black friends' line of defence
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LOL agreed regarding the grandparents line. cringed myself a bit too but other than that, its spot on!
 
Anfield said:
so they are banning Luis on his own words? so they believe that he used the words? LOL then how come they didn't believe that he didnt mean to use the term 'negrito' in that context?

Statement is brilliant. outsiders view it otherwise so we'll agree to disagree.
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I assume so from the statements that we have seen so far BUT can't say for sure until the full details are released
 
Anfield said:
LOL agreed regarding the grandparents line. cringed myself a bit too but other than that, its spot on!
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It wasn't, it was a rant that you would expect from fans on a message board not from the club

Do you think Liverpool will appeal the decision? If so don't you think that makes the statement even more ridiculous
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
It wasn't, it was a rant that you would expect from fans on a message board not from the club

Do you think Liverpool will appeal the decision? If so don't you think that makes the statement even more ridiculous
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I certainly hope so. Why else would they put out such a strong statement so anti-FA and their joke of a decision if they didn't intend to fight it?
 
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Geordie Ahmed said:
Agreed, that statement by them was awful and it appears like it was written to get all Liverpool fans excited (clearly worked)

If they intend to appeal then it makes that statement even more pathetic

and LOL at the him having a black grandparent, it is as ridiculous as the 'I can't be racist cos I have black friends' line of defence
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Not really, if you have a black grandparent and are accused of being racist then you technically dont like part of yourself.
 
Liverpool players' statement -

Luis Suarez is our teammate and our friend and as a group of players we are shocked and angered that he has been found guilty by the FA.

We totally support Luis and we want the world to know that. We know he is not racist.

We are a squad of many different nationalities and backgrounds. All of us support the Club's commitment to fighting racism. All of us accept there is no place in the game for any form of discrimination. As a group of players we totally support the Kick it Out Campaign.

We have lived, trained and played with Luis for almost 12 months and we don't recognise the way he has been portrayed. We will continue to support Luis through this difficult period, and as a popular and respected friend of all his teammates, he will not walk alone.
 
BoomBoomAli said:
Suarez made a mistake in that regard and is going to have to pay for it.
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... And that's the bottom line. Hopefully he will never make the same mistake again, and I'm sure he will learn his lesson.

Gives Carrol a good reason to prove everyone wrong of why he shouldnt be labelled as a flop. A nice 7-8 games and perhaps more could do him well... That's if he scores and takes his chances.
 
that original statement was shocking, basic grammar mistakes and it looked like a poster from Rawk had written it.

Sports PR Guru was ripping it to shreds on Sky News earlier in the morning, he said he couldn't believe a professional organisation would issue anything like that. He also said seems like the none of Liverpool FC lawyers were asked for their advice before realising the statement.
 
It is shocking how Liverpool have been treating this case since day 1. Suarez came out and had some stupid statements about how all of the United players were shocked by Evra being hurt about what he said. That just made him look a real *****.

I think what would help is if FA would actually go public with the reasons for him being found guilty. Because at the moment everybody seems to think that it is Evra's word against Suarez's. I personally do not think that would be the case simply because they used over two months on this case, and I seriously doubt they would have used this much time without having real evidence.
 
Its gonna drag on until mid January apparently. At least thats when The FA will release the neccessary documentation in order for Suarez to then appeal.
 
The whole t-shirt thing was just cringeworthy. Doesn't show solidarity, but more so stupidity. They acknowledge what he says but try to feign away by saying different cultural backgrounds. Even in their statement, they said it themselves. He has been here for 12 months. He lives and works in that country so he needs to learn how to respect their customs.

Support him, forgive him, but please do not make it seem like he is a victim and vindicate the language he used. Rather, support him by teaching him. No one is saying to slaughter the guy.
 
How is it cringeworthy? All the players' showing solidarity and standing by their teammate and friend through a very difficult time.

Being accused of racism is very serious, Liverpool has always been a club where the team is a family and the message is simply that they are not defending a racist, they are defending a player from being unfairly labelled one.
 
BoomBoomAli said:
How is it cringeworthy? All the players' showing solidarity and standing by their teammate and friend through a very difficult time.

Being accused of racism is very serious, Liverpool has always been a club where the team is a family and the message is simply that they are not defending a racist, they are defending a player from being unfairly labelled one.
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I just find it over the top and dramatic. Also not sure how he has been "unfairly" labelled when the evidence has not been released. It is difficult to declare his innocence when we do not know all the facts. However, the people that did find him guilty do have all the evidence.

I find the whole shirt wearing thing is trivializing the real issue. That regardless if it was racist or not, something was said that upset Evra. It no longer seems like this case is about Suarez, but more so Liverpool vs the FA and a chance to make it seem like the are the victim.

You already know my opinion, that a lot of this seems petty from both sides. However, Liverpool and more importantly Suarez should be mature enough to recognize whatever he said, in whatever connotation upset Evra. Rather than continuously try to explain himself to the media as to what he meant, people will form their opinion regardless about his intent. What he should do, is go up to Evra and apologize. If he truly believes he wasn't saying that word, then just say look in my culture this is how it is but I recognize that may have upset you and for that I apologize. Maybe if he did that, he would earn some respect back and a reduced ban rather than making this issue bigger than Luis Suarez.
 
BoomBoomAli said:
How is it cringeworthy? All the players' showing solidarity and standing by their teammate and friend through a very difficult time.

Being accused of racism is very serious, Liverpool has always been a club where the team is a family and the message is simply that they are not defending a racist, they are defending a player from being unfairly labelled one.
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It isn't cringeworthy your right...

It's disgusting. Suarez may be no racist but the fact that he's been proven guilty and they wore the shirts almost infers an embracement of his abuse. Yes I know negro is actually a legally acceptable term in Uruguay but it is still a term used derogatorily towards the coloured nationally. To make this point quick I'm saying it's redundant that he is racist or not, he made a mistake and Liverpool - to the rest of the world - are not looking too good right now. I mean the inception of this thread should speak volumes. It's just embarrassing what they did.

I don't know weather Suarez is racist, he's bitten a Moroccan before, celebrated shamelessly after cheating in the world cup in front of the Ghanians, and has now been proven to have spoken the "n" word to Evra. :warneEven with this I can probably conclude he's not racist, a major **** yes, but not a racist. Fact is the shirts didn't show solidarity but just looked moronic and alienated most. Glen Johnson didn't look that happy too. You can show solidarity in many other ways but not like they did, his conference should've been enough. :iamlegend
 
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Amir said:
The whole t-shirt thing was just cringeworthy. Doesn't show solidarity, but more so stupidity. They acknowledge what he says but try to feign away by saying different cultural backgrounds. Even in their statement, they said it themselves. He has been here for 12 months. He lives and works in that country so he needs to learn how to respect their customs.

Support him, forgive him, but please do not make it seem like he is a victim and vindicate the language he used. Rather, support him by teaching him. No one is saying to slaughter the guy.
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Agreed, I thought their statement was bad BUT the t-shirts took it to another level, even Dalglish was wearing one - wth :facepalm: :facepalm:
 
zid60 said:
Yes I know negro is actually a legally acceptable term in Uruguay but it is still a term used derogatorily towards the coloured nationally
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It may be acceptable in Uruguay but I'm sure Suarez knows that word may be found offensive in England.

I mean... He's played in Dutch Everdise for over 3 years - and there racism is considered as a strong offence, surley during his long spell their he knew what's wrong and what's right. Common sense and basic knowledge really.

Also the term might not be offensive for Suarez - but the intentions were negative - as he stated that term when the fuel was on going with Evra. I just hope Suarez learns his lesson now, despite him appealing against it.
 
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the whole Negro is socially acceptable term in Uruguay is BS..

In Uruguay the legal sex age is 15, so will it be ok if Suarez is involved in a sexual relationship with a 15 year old girl in England because its ok in his country?

In Australia the term **** is used frequently, do we ever hear cricketers use that language when playing?
 
It seems like we go round in circles as soon as a new poster makes a contribution, I therefore am not going to repeat myself on the meaning, malice and context of the word negrito.

I will however say that the t shirts are down to individual interpretation, some people may not like them but they promote team spirit to me, a key foundation in all successful teams. :waqar
 
Another observation which doesnt take an einstein to work out is that Liverpool were at the hearing, they know what went on and whats going on.

They wouldnt blindly follow a player in the mere hope that he is going to come off unscathed.
 
Another couple of tweets from Dani Pacheco -

Negrito is a nice term of call someone! Is like when we say "gordito" is a nice term of call someone a bit fat.

Negrito is never a racist word. Negro is so different and could be dangerous to say it, but not Negrito.
 
BoomBoomAli said:
Another couple of tweets from Dani Pacheco -

Negrito is a nice term of call someone! Is like when we say "gordito" is a nice term of call someone a bit fat.

Negrito is never a racist word. Negro is so different and could be dangerous to say it, but not Negrito.
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********, so why would Suarez call Evra negrito during an angry exchange if it is a nice term?

I can understand team mates/friends calling one another negrito BUT in the context it was being used by Suarez it was racist, no two ways about it and I find the reaction of Liverpool (club and fans) quite ridiculous and shows them in a bad light
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
********, so why would Suarez call Evra negrito during an angry exchange if it is a nice term?

I can understand team mates/friends calling one another negrito BUT in the context it was being used by Suarez it was racist, no two ways about it and I find the reaction of Liverpool (club and fans) quite ridiculous and shows them in a bad light
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Absolutely my point, why call some negrito when they clearly don't like you and you are winding them up.

Liverpool fans will come out will all these excuses, the cheater used a term which can be associated with racism in England (as he applies his trade here) got a 8 match ban, close to book and let it be a lesson for anyone who thinks they can use any sort of racist words even in banter.
 
sully3 said:
Absolutely my point, why call some negrito when they clearly don't like you and you are winding them up.

Liverpool fans will come out will all these excuses, the cheater used a term which can be associated with racism in England (as he applies his trade here) got a 8 match ban, close to book and let it be a lesson for anyone who thinks they can use any sort of racist words even in banter.
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Would you be in favour of giving Mr Evra an 8 match ban for calling Suarez a South American in a derogatory tone?
 
John Barnes' view on things-

Barnes told BBC Radio Merseyside: "From a cultural point of view, [Suarez] has been backed by people from Uruguay saying the word he used is not deemed as a racist term.

"As much as we will say that ignorance is no excuse, ignorance is an excuse.

"Twenty years ago in England, the same people in England now condemning him were ignorant as to what racism is. Why don't they condemn themselves?"

The 48-year-old went on to say that whilst discrimination of any kind should be punished, there needs to be rules put in place to ensure consistency.

He said: "When Manchester United play Liverpool and 10,000 United fans are saying 'you Scouse thieves', I'd like them all to be banned.

"And Liverpool fans too, when they say 'you Manc or whatever'. So where are we going to draw the line? Racism has to be zero tolerance but this is now a witch hunt.
"By admitting [what he said], he obviously didn't feel that what he said was that significant.

"Because he could easily have gotten away with it by saying 'I never said a word'."
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
********, so why would Suarez call Evra negrito during an angry exchange if it is a nice term?

I can understand team mates/friends calling one another negrito BUT in the context it was being used by Suarez it was racist, no two ways about it and I find the reaction of Liverpool (club and fans) quite ridiculous and shows them in a bad light
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He admitted to saying the word when there was no evidence suggesting he did, he could have gotten away with it if he lied but he didnt.

Do you really think he would have admitted it if he was actually being racist?
 
BoomBoomAli said:
He admitted to saying the word when there was no evidence suggesting he did, he could have gotten away with it if he lied but he didnt.

Do you really think he would have admitted it if he was actually being racist?
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I don't really care why he admitted to making the comment BUT the fact is he did make the comment and it was a racist comment so he was rightly punished

Who knows maybe his admission resulted in a lesser penalty
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
I don't really care why he admitted to making the comment BUT the fact is he did make the comment and it was a racist comment so he was rightly punished

Who knows maybe his admission resulted in a lesser penalty
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His non-admission would have resulted in no penalty at all.

Were going to have to agree to disagree.
 
Luis Suárez's disciplinary case for allegedly racially abusing Patrice Evra appears to rest on whether the Liverpool striker and his legal team can successfully argue that using the word "negro" does not necessarily have racist connotations for someone with his background in Uruguay.

After hearing evidence from both players over the past two days, the Football Association hopes to announce its verdict on Friday. Suárez has reportedly accepted that he used the word negro and the case centres on the nuances of the Spanish language and the context in which the word was used.

Liverpool's legal argument is that negro and its female equivalent, negra, are frequently used in Spanish-speaking countries without any negative connotations, often in the same context as someone saying "pal" or "mate". Evra's camp argues this is unacceptable and that it was said in a clearly derogatory manner as the two players clashed during the second half of Manchester United's 1-1 draw at Anfield in October.

A languages expert has been called in to help Suárez's case and the FA has looked closely into the cultural differences and semantic issues, to determine whether this represents a legitimate defence.

The crux of the matter may be to determine whether Suárez, after four years living in northern Europe, should have a clear understanding that something that may be acceptable in his home country would be considered grossly offensive in England. Proving that may be difficult and the Suárez camp has pointed out, for example, that El Negro is a common nickname in Uruguay, often used for white people too.

<b>Evra has accused Suárez of abusing him "at least 10 times" and the Liverpool player faces a long ban if the FA hearing finds him guilty of the charges of using "insulting words and/or behaviour" including "a reference to ethnic origin and/or colour and/or race".

At the same time, new details have emerged that make it clear the evidence of the referee, Andre Marriner, could be vital. Marriner reportedly called the pair together for a lecture after they had become involved in some pushing at a Liverpool corner. When Suárez attempted to pat his opponent on the head, Evra allegedly pulled away and said: "Don't touch me, you South American." The Uruguayan replied: "Por qué [why], negro?"

Evra was clearly annoyed by something and it was also reported that when he was shown a yellow card later in the match, he allegedly said to Marriner: "You're only booking me because I'm black."</b>

Marriner, however, is said to have been unaware that there had been a complaint of racism until after the game when Evra, accompanied by Sir Alex Ferguson, United's manager, went to the referee's office.

Kenny Dalglish has spoken in defence of Suárez at the hearing and the Liverpool manager made it clear during his weekly press conference that he believed his player's version of events. "We have said many times before we cannot say anything that will be prejudicial. We are standing right beside him and helping him as much as we possibly can. After it's finished there is a chance to have a conversation."




not sure if posted before
 
Liverpool fans showing their class on twitter. Listening to talksport drive now. Some shocking stuff been sent to stan collymore.
 
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Liverpool fans are really smoothing special ... disgusting isn't even the word
 
Liverpool fans. :facepalm:

To think Collymore actually represented Liverpool for a few years.
 
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Disgusting from certain fans, the real ones wouldnt say that.

They gotta realise radio show hosts are on there for a reason - to get people to call in.
 
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