Malaysian PM Mahathir Mohamad condemns India's citizenship law

[Pakistanian]

 

[CricketCartoons]

He should support a state religion for india, like malaysia has.

 

[Slog]

Malaysia’s Mahathir slams India for citizenship law; India protests

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/...91220082825226.html?__twitter_impression=true

https://m.economictimes.com/news/po...leshow/72916477.cms?__twitter_impression=true

 

[cricketjoshila]

May be he can make Malaysia Secular. Malaysia has nearly 40 percent non Muslims yet its a Muslim country.

 

[Pakistanian]

May be he can make Malaysia Secular. Malaysia has nearly 40 percent non Muslims yet its a Muslim country.

Malaysia is more secular than India, more western people feel more comfortable in Kuala Lumpur than in any major Indian city.

 

[Mian]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bharat Mata Ki Jai! They had stopped buying palm oil from Malaysia for a month. Malaysia decreased the price of the palm oil only $5 less for a ton than Indonesian price, and all Indian companies went back to Malaysia to buy the oil. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kashmir?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Kashmir</a> <a href="https://t.co/KPo5iqXS5y">https://t.co/KPo5iqXS5y</a></p>— Ashok Swain (@ashoswai) <a href="https://twitter.com/ashoswai/status/1208339089000468482?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Knight_Rider]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bharat Mata Ki Jai! They had stopped buying palm oil from Malaysia for a month. Malaysia decreased the price of the palm oil only $5 less for a ton than Indonesian price, and all Indian companies went back to Malaysia to buy the oil. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kashmir?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Kashmir</a> <a href="https://t.co/KPo5iqXS5y">https://t.co/KPo5iqXS5y</a></p>— Ashok Swain (@ashoswai) <a href="https://twitter.com/ashoswai/status/1208339089000468482?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This inflated ego will be the downfall of India one day. Just because its a large market doesn’t mean that India has a ‘license to kill’. Shame on these crazy ******

 

[Knight_Rider]

May be he can make Malaysia Secular. Malaysia has nearly 40 percent non Muslims yet its a Muslim country.

If Malaysia (despite being non-Secular) wasn’t a better place than India, hundreds of indians wouldnt be dying to get there. There is a big south Indian diaspora in Malaysia and hundreds of temples. Can you tell us how many Malaysians are eager to get to india?

Despite all these claims of being an upcoming Supa powa, indians wont lose a second to run out of india (if they can somehow get visa of any industrialist country).

 

[MenInG]

This inflated ego will be the downfall of India one day. Just because its a large market doesn’t mean that India has a ‘license to kill’. Shame on these crazy ******

Lol that didnt last long. Thank God for wise minds in India who can see through Modihystrionics

 

[Hornbill]

He should support a state religion for india, like malaysia has.

And also direct them to ban the practice of one of the sects like they did with shiasm lol

 

[MenInG]

And also direct them to ban the practice of one of the sects like they did with shiasm lol

Not sure what the 'lol' is for?

 

[Hornbill]

Not sure what the 'lol' is for?

laughing at stupidity

 

[JaDed]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bharat Mata Ki Jai! They had stopped buying palm oil from Malaysia for a month. Malaysia decreased the price of the palm oil only $5 less for a ton than Indonesian price, and all Indian companies went back to Malaysia to buy the oil. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kashmir?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Kashmir</a> <a href="https://t.co/KPo5iqXS5y">https://t.co/KPo5iqXS5y</a></p>— Ashok Swain (@ashoswai) <a href="https://twitter.com/ashoswai/status/1208339089000468482?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This inflated ego will be the downfall of India one day. Just because its a large market doesn’t mean that India has a ‘license to kill’. Shame on these crazy ******

Lol that didnt last long. Thank God for wise minds in India who can see through Modihystrionics

5$ a Ton is huge for a commodity imported in such large quantities, its not as little. First 9 months of 2019 India imported 3.91 Million Tonnes of Palm oil from Malaysia alone, now calculate 5$ off on each ton.

Also Malaysia has asked its traders to import Sugar from India.

https://www.nst.com.my/business/2019/10/530288/malaysia-extends-sweet-offer-india-address-trade-imbalance

 

[Knight_Rider]

Tou hum kya karein? Trade is a mutually beneficial thing, so surely if India could get a better deal elsewhere that’s where they would be buying from.

As said before the cheapshots in India are trying to use the trading negotiation position as a shield for their inhumane treatment of minorities. Malaysia has every right to question that.

 

[JaDed]

Tou hum kya karein? Trade is a mutually beneficial thing, so surely if India could get a better deal elsewhere that’s where they would be buying from.

As said before the cheapshots in India are trying to use the trading negotiation position as a shield for their inhumane treatment of minorities. Malaysia has every right to question that.

Malaysia can and should.. my point was on Ashok Swain and you talking about inflated ego..whereas it benefited the business community.

 

[Knight_Rider]

Surprised to see that this Ashok Swain is an academic. Agar educated indians ka yeh haal hai, tou baqi ka kya ho ga. Stone age society.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Surprised to see that this Ashok Swain is an academic. Agar educated indians ka yeh haal hai, tou baqi ka kya ho ga. Stone age society.

Not Ashok Swain's fault if you don't get his sarcasm and end up making a fool out of yourself.

 

[Waleed93]

May be he can make Malaysia Secular. Malaysia has nearly 40 percent non Muslims yet its a Muslim country.

Malaysia is a more secular country than India. A non-muslim will happily choose to settle in Malaysia today.
A Muslim will not happily choose to live in India, atleast not in today's India.

 

[JaDed]

Not Ashok Swain's fault if you don't get his sarcasm and end up making a fool out of yourself.

I got his sarcasm but he is being foolish if he thinks $5 is too less..

 

[ElRaja]

5$ a Ton is huge for a commodity imported in such large quantities, its not as little. First 9 months of 2019 India imported 3.91 Million Tonnes of Palm oil from Malaysia alone, now calculate 5$ off on each ton.

Also Malaysia has asked its traders to import Sugar from India.

https://www.nst.com.my/business/2019/10/530288/malaysia-extends-sweet-offer-india-address-trade-imbalance

im confused, according to this website palm oil price is around USD 700/tonne.

$5 on that is less than 1% which is easily within the daily volatility of plenty of commodities and is by no means "huge" as a discount.

secondly $5 on 4 million metric tonnes is worth USD 20 million, which seems like a tiny amount in the context of the indian imports or malaysian exports.

 

[JaDed]

im confused, according to this website palm oil price is around USD 700/tonne.

$5 on that is less than 1% which is easily within the daily volatility of plenty of commodities and is by no means "huge" as a discount.

secondly $5 on 4 million metric tonnes is worth USD 20 million, which seems like a tiny amount in the context of the indian imports or malaysian exports.

Its not a tiny amount considering the deficit.. and that was for only 9 months, the 5$ is irrespective of the volatility and its 5$ less compared to Indonesian price which I don't think is the market price..it was 603$ for Indonesia's 608$.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-india-malaysia-palmoil-exclusive/exclusive-india-resumes-buying-malaysian-palm-oil-as-kuala-lumpur-offers-discount-traders-idUSKBN1XO19R

Also IIRC this wrt to traders that benefit, and the volatility of plam oil as such has been that of 100$ between 2018 and 2019, considering that 5$ is around 5% ...

Also they "promised" to buy sugar and beef(not sure ).

India would be ok if countries would discount us on commodities by 5$ if all they want to do is lip service on Kashmir,citizenship bill.. sadly Turkey didn't give us a "discount" on onions.

 

[Slog]

Its not a tiny amount considering the deficit.. and that was for only 9 months, the 5$ is irrespective of the volatility and its 5$ less compared to Indonesian price which I don't think is the market price..it was 603$ for Indonesia's 608$.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-india-malaysia-palmoil-exclusive/exclusive-india-resumes-buying-malaysian-palm-oil-as-kuala-lumpur-offers-discount-traders-idUSKBN1XO19R

Also IIRC this wrt to traders that benefit, and the volatility of plam oil as such has been that of 100$ between 2018 and 2019, considering that 5$ is around 5% ...

Also they "promised" to buy sugar and beef(not sure ).

India would be ok if countries would discount us on commodities by 5$ if all they want to do is lip service on Kashmir,citizenship bill.. sadly Turkey didn't give us a "discount" on onions.

That’s poor logic

India was bullied by US to stop buying Iranian oil despite lower price and the facility to pay in rupees. Mind you these were US sanctions to punish Iran and not even Indian sanctions. Not does India have any problem with Iran.

The whole point of economic punishment or boycott is that you punish the other party economically regardless of whether in pure nominal terms you’re missing out on a good deal.

The funny thing here and why it’s being mentioned is that despite all claims of punishing Turkey and Malaysia economically for their stances inn kashmir, India has caved in so easily and let go of its principles. And this case there wasn’t even pressure from a foreign global superpower

 

[Syed1]

May be he can make Malaysia Secular. Malaysia has nearly 40 percent non Muslims yet its a Muslim country.

LMAO Malaysia is 10 times more secular than Hindu Rashtra India can ever hope to be.

 

[cricketjoshila]

That’s poor logic

India was bullied by US to stop buying Iranian oil despite lower price and the facility to pay in rupees. Mind you these were US sanctions to punish Iran and not even Indian sanctions. Not does India have any problem with Iran.

The whole point of economic punishment or boycott is that you punish the other party economically regardless of whether in pure nominal terms you’re missing out on a good deal.

The funny thing here and why it’s being mentioned is that despite all claims of punishing Turkey and Malaysia economically for their stances inn kashmir, India has caved in so easily and let go of its principles. And this case there wasn’t even pressure from a foreign global superpower

Malaysia is not US.

India has reduced buying from Malaysia, despite discounts and other offers, the palm oil imports from Malaysia is less on a YoY basis.

India easily replaced the Iranian oil with Venezuelan and US oil.

The same US couldnot force India to drop the S 400 purchase.

Its all about pros and cons.

 

[JaDed]

That’s poor logic

India was bullied by US to stop buying Iranian oil despite lower price and the facility to pay in rupees. Mind you these were US sanctions to punish Iran and not even Indian sanctions. Not does India have any problem with Iran.

The whole point of economic punishment or boycott is that you punish the other party economically regardless of whether in pure nominal terms you’re missing out on a good deal.

The funny thing here and why it’s being mentioned is that despite all claims of punishing Turkey and Malaysia economically for their stances inn kashmir, India has caved in so easily and let go of its principles. And this case there wasn’t even pressure from a foreign global superpower

The reason at that particular point they bought the oil was coz port issue in Indonesia...so at that point so as to not causing issues internally they bought it from Malaysia at discount..

And India is not USA neither is Malaysia.. you can’t hurt other countries economically unless you are China ,EU or USA IN today’s world..

Malaysia has already gone to Africa to replace India as their export partner..

 

[Hornbill]

Dr M backs secular principles only when Muslims are minorities

Where Muslims are minorities, he thinks that the best form of government should be based on principles of secularism but it is legitimate to have theocratic states where Muslims are in the majority.

Now, what kind of logic is this?
Nothing wrong with this as the archaic principle of non-interference must give way the discussion of humanitarian issues.

But unfortunately, with the exception of China, Mahathir seems more predisposed in talking about the plight of Muslims in countries that have Muslims as minorities.

https://m.malaysiakini.com/news/505028
It seems like that there are some modi government lobbyists in Malaysia

 

[MenInG]

Good of him to take a stand based on principles and not on $$$

 

[JaDed]

Dr M backs secular principles only when Muslims are minorities

Where Muslims are minorities, he thinks that the best form of government should be based on principles of secularism but it is legitimate to have theocratic states where Muslims are in the majority.

Now, what kind of logic is this?
Nothing wrong with this as the archaic principle of non-interference must give way the discussion of humanitarian issues.

But unfortunately, with the exception of China, Mahathir seems more predisposed in talking about the plight of Muslims in countries that have Muslims as minorities.

https://m.malaysiakini.com/news/505028
It seems like that there are some modi government lobbyists in Malaysia

I think we all know that all leaders are hypocrites, thats the one thing I have realized as i have grown older, right now its all about efficiency, so who is most efficient , I least care about PR or lip service..

Personally I wouldn’t care what he says about India or Modi, if our GDP growth was there and Jobs were growing too.. at end of the day its all about development at any cost!

Right or wrong is **..

 

[cricketjoshila]

The reason at that particular point they bought the oil was coz port issue in Indonesia...so at that point so as to not causing issues internally they bought it from Malaysia at discount..

And India is not USA neither is Malaysia.. you can’t hurt other countries economically unless you are China ,EU or USA IN today’s world..

Malaysia has already gone to Africa to replace India as their export partner..

India has now stopped Malaysian Palm oil imports almost entirely.

https://wap.business-standard.com/a...nesia-not-malaysia-report-120010800845_1.html

India is now a 3Tn dollar economy, 5th in the world. While we are not US or EU, we are still big enough to hurt countries economically, esp a country like Malaysia.

 

[mmkextreme_1]

India has now stopped Malaysian Palm oil imports almost entirely.

https://wap.business-standard.com/a...nesia-not-malaysia-report-120010800845_1.html

India is now a 3Tn dollar economy, 5th in the world. While we are not US or EU, we are still big enough to hurt countries economically, esp a country like Malaysia.

LOL ok

India's GDP of $2.6-2.7 trillion is mostly due to its population.

A better way to compare would be by looking at GDP per capita.

Rough estimate for both countries:

Malaysia:~$11,000
India: ~$2,100

I'll let you think about that.

Getting sick and tired of some Indian posters that keep saying.."oh our economy is XX trillion dollars"

Oh yaar, when giving that trillion-dollar figure, also let us know that India is the 2nd most populous country in the world (soon to be number 1).

 

[JaDed]

LOL ok

India's GDP of $2.6-2.7 trillion is mostly due to its population.

A better way to compare would be by looking at GDP per capita.

Rough estimate for both countries:

Malaysia:~$11,000
India: ~$2,100

I'll let you think about that.

Getting sick and tired of some Indian posters that keep saying.."oh our economy is XX trillion dollars"

Oh yaar, when giving that trillion-dollar figure, also let us know that India is the 2nd most populous country in the world (soon to be number 1).

He is not boasting about the economy in the context you are saying, he is pointing out to an Indian like me as to why big economies can hurt others if the trade is high among them, which is right UAE has better per capita than USA but states can hurt UaE , not the same scenario but giving context here.

 

[JaDed]

India has now stopped Malaysian Palm oil imports almost entirely.

https://wap.business-standard.com/a...nesia-not-malaysia-report-120010800845_1.html

India is now a 3Tn dollar economy, 5th in the world. While we are not US or EU, we are still big enough to hurt countries economically, esp a country like Malaysia.

Well there are two things to consider there are many Tamizhans working in Malaysia in that industry second Africa would cover up, unless the dependency is in such a way that there is absolute dependence like OIL with no other markets.

Irrespective its good coz our deficit was getting wider with them.



“Two months ago, Kok met up with India's Commerce and Industry Minister Piyush Goyal. He highlighted Malaysia's exports to India stood at US$10.8 billion in the 2018/19 fiscal, and imports from New Delhi only totalled US$6.4 billion.”

 

[cricketjoshila]

Well there are two things to consider there are many Tamizhans working in Malaysia in that industry second Africa would cover up, unless the dependency is in such a way that there is absolute dependence like OIL with no other markets.

Irrespective its good coz our deficit was getting wider with them.



“Two months ago, Kok met up with India's Commerce and Industry Minister Piyush Goyal. He highlighted Malaysia's exports to India stood at US$10.8 billion in the 2018/19 fiscal, and imports from New Delhi only totalled US$6.4 billion.”

Malaysia has been trying to get into African markey since 2016. Not much success.

They just lost their biggest market. Africa is not really a replacement for India just due to the sheer volume that India imported.

https://www.indexmundi.com/agriculture/?commodity=palm-oil&graph=imports

Next in line is the electronics import, which is being targetted as i write this post.

Anything from Malaysia will now be slowly put through so much red tape that, importers will look for alternatives.

 

[cricketjoshila]

LOL ok

India's GDP of $2.6-2.7 trillion is mostly due to its population.

A better way to compare would be by looking at GDP per capita.

Rough estimate for both countries:

Malaysia:~$11,000
India: ~$2,100

I'll let you think about that.

Getting sick and tired of some Indian posters that keep saying.."oh our economy is XX trillion dollars"

Oh yaar, when giving that trillion-dollar figure, also let us know that India is the 2nd most populous country in the world (soon to be number 1).

Pakistan is 220mn population, BD 180mn, why they are not 500bn or 1tn economies?

India is a 3tn economy. And 5th largest by IMF estimates.

Now coming to per capita.

When you are trading, its not to target one person, but a entire economy or else Aruba or Palau or San Marino has higher per capita than China.

 

[PakLFC]

India won't be buying any more palm oil from India

 

[Sidilicious]

As much as I am against CAA, the Malaysian PM should have shut his mouth. In his first term as PM he was quite racist himself to non-malay Malaysians and non muslims.

 

[Abdullah719]

"Need To Be Frank": Malaysia PM On India Palm Oil Curbs After CAA Remark

Kuala Lumpur: Kuala Lumpur is concerned about India's new curbs on imports of palm oil after a diplomatic row, Malaysia's Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad said on Tuesday, but indicated he would continue to speak out against "wrong things" even if it costs his country financially.
India, the world's biggest buyer of edible oils, last week changed rules that traders say effectively ban imports of refined palm oil from Malaysia, the world's second-biggest producer and exporter of palm oil after Indonesia.

The move came after New Delhi objected to Mr Mahathir's criticism of new citizenship law that makes religion test for citizenship. The 94-year-old premier, whose outspoken nature has soured ties with both India and Saudi Arabia in recent months, had earlier said that India had "invaded and occupied" Kashmir.

As Malaysian palm refiners stare at a massive loss of business, Mr Mahathir said his government would find a solution.

"We are concerned of course because we sell a lot of palm oil to India, but on the other hand we need to be frank and see that if something goes wrong, we will have to say it," he told reporters. "If we allow things to go wrong and think only about the money involved, then I think a lot of wrong things will be done, by us and by other people."

The benchmark palm oil contract for March delivery was down 0.9 per cent in afternoon trade.

Reuters reported on Monday the India had informally instructed traders to stay away from Malaysian palm oil. Indian traders are instead buying Indonesian crude palm oil at a premium of $10 tonne over Malaysian prices.

The Foreign Ministry said on Thursday the palm curbs were not country specific but that "for any commercial trading, the status of relationship between any two countries" is something a business would consider.

India was Malaysia's biggest buyer of palm oil in 2019, with 4.4 million tonnes of purchases. In 2020, purchases could fall below 1 million tonnes if relations don't improve, Indian traders say.

To make up for the potential loss, Malaysian officials say they are trying to sell more to Pakistan, the Philippines, Myanmar, Vietnam, Ethiopia, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Algeria and Jordan.

But replacing the top buyer won't be easy, and that's why the Malaysian Trades Union Congress, whose members include palm workers, has urged the two countries to talk things out.

"We wish to implore upon both governments to use all possible diplomatic channels to resolve this issue putting aside any personal or diplomatic ego," it said in a statement.

Malaysia's Primary Industries Ministry, supported by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, is engaging with its Indian counterparts to try and sort out the issue, according to a Malaysian government source aware of the discussions. He declined to be named as he was not authorised to speak to the media.

The ministries could not immediately be reached for comment.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/mal...ndia-palm-oil-curbs-defends-criticism-2163705

 

[Abdullah719]

Pakistan will try to buy more palm oil from KL amid India curbs: Khan

KUALA LUMPUR • Pakistan will do its best to buy more palm oil from Malaysia after top buyer India put curbs on such imports last month amid a diplomatic row with the South-east Asian nation, Prime Minister Imran Khan said yesterday.

India has placed general restrictions on refined palm oil imports and informally asked traders to stop buying from Malaysia, the world's second-biggest producer and exporter of the edible oil, in retaliation for Malaysia's accusation that recent Indian policies discriminate against Muslims.

India is a Hindu-majority country while Malaysia and Pakistan are mainly Muslim. India and Pakistan have been mostly hostile to each other since the partition of British India in 1947, and have fought two of their three wars over competing territorial claims in Kashmir.

Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad said he discussed palm oil with Mr Khan - in Malaysia on a state visit - and added that Pakistan had indicated it would import more from Malaysia.

"That's right, especially since we noticed India threatened Malaysia for supporting the Kashmir cause, threatened to cut palm oil imports," Mr Khan told a joint news conference, referring to India's Muslim-majority region of Kashmir. "Pakistan will do its best to compensate for that," he said.

Spoiler

Pakistan bought 1.1 million tonnes of palm oil from Malaysia last year, while India bought 4.4 million tonnes, according to the Malaysian Palm Oil Council.

India has repeatedly objected to Tun Dr Mahathir speaking out against its move last year to strip Kashmir of its autonomy and make it easier for non-Muslims from neighbouring Muslim-majority Bangladesh, Pakistan and Afghanistan to gain citizenship.

In the news conference, Dr Mahathir did not refer to Kashmir but Mr Khan did. "The way you, PM, have stood with us and spoken about this injustice going on, on behalf of Pakistan, I really want to thank you," Mr Khan said.

The former cricketer said he was sad he could not attend a summit of Muslim leaders in Malaysia in December. Malaysia had said the summit was held to improve the lives of Muslims and overcome Islamophobia.

But the event was held outside the ambit of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC), and Saudi Arabia - a close ally of Pakistan - said the gathering was "dividing" the Islamic world and it was the wrong forum for matters of importance to the world's 1.75 billion Muslims. Saudi King Salman had also reaffirmed that such issues should be discussed through the OIC during a call with Dr Mahathir.

Some Pakistani officials had told the media at the time that Mr Khan pulled out under pressure from Saudi Arabia. Local media, however, reported that his officials denied that was the reason for Mr Khan's absence.

"Unfortunately our friends, who are very close to Pakistan as well, felt that somehow the conference was going to divide the ummah," Mr Khan said, using the Arabic word for the Muslim community but not mentioning Saudi Arabia by name.

"It's is clearly a misconception, as that was not the purpose of the conference," he added.

Mr Khan also said Malaysia and Pakistan were working on a joint media project to broadcast a positive image of Islam, fight Islamophobia and develop content for young Muslims.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/s...y-more-palm-oil-from-kl-amid-india-curbs-khan

 

[Hornbill]

Malaysian PM refuses to raise Kashmir issue

After repeatedly mentioning Kashmir at all international fora, Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir bin Mohamad did not mention the K-word during the joint press conference after his bilateral meeting with Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan.

A marked shift from what was expected at the joint press briefing ever since New Delhi started recalibrating its economic ties with Kuala Lumpur.

Although the joint statement issued after the talks mentions Kashmir and that PM Imran Khan apprised the Malaysian premier of the situation on the ground, Mohamad seems to be trying to balance relations.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.in...but-backs-pakistan-on-fatf-1643676-2020-02-06

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Malaysian PM refuses to raise Kashmir issue

After repeatedly mentioning Kashmir at all international fora, Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir bin Mohamad did not mention the K-word during the joint press conference after his bilateral meeting with Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan.

A marked shift from what was expected at the joint press briefing ever since New Delhi started recalibrating its economic ties with Kuala Lumpur.

Although the joint statement issued after the talks mentions Kashmir and that PM Imran Khan apprised the Malaysian premier of the situation on the ground, Mohamad seems to be trying to balance relations.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.in...but-backs-pakistan-on-fatf-1643676-2020-02-06

Good to see the change, palm oil buy refusal seems to have shown it's impact.

 

[Bigboii]

They had nothing to gain and everything to lose sometimes not saying something is the best solution

 

[PakLFC]

Condemnation is not good enough. Either Pak should take some practical action over IoK or shut up and sit down. All these marches, protests and IK running his mouth is boring and meaningless. It has no effect at all on India or Modi.

 

[Hornbill]

Good to see the change, palm oil buy refusal seems to have shown it's impact.

He is a proven opportunist, he is **** scared to say anything against mistreatment of uyghur muslims in China,one sect of muslims in Malaysia is still struggling to find a space to practice what they believe.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Good to see the change, palm oil buy refusal seems to have shown it's impact.

He has $10bn to lose. And nothing to gain. Also curbs on electronic equipment from malaysia are on its way.

 

[MenInG]

Malaysia's former Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad and four other former members have promised to challenge their removal from the Bersatu party.

Mahathir, 94, along with his son and three other senior members, were expelled from the Bersatu party on Thursday in the latest twist in a power struggle with his successor.

"The unilateral action by Bersatu's president to sack us without valid reason is due to his own fears in facing party elections as well as his unsafe position as the most unstable prime minister in the history of the country's administration," a joint statement by Mahathir and the four others said.

The party has been split into two camps since intense political wrangling led Mahathir to resign as prime minister in February and the king to appoint fellow party member Muhyiddin Yassin as his replacement despite Mahathir's objections.

Mahathir's son, Mukhriz Mahathir, has since challenged Muhyiddin as party president in a vote that has been postponed due to the coronavirus pandemic.

Mahathir co-founded Bersatu with Muhyiddin in 2016, and the party joined an alliance that claimed a stunning victory in the 2018 polls, leading to the first change of government since independence.

The ruling alliance collapsed after Muhyiddin pulled Bersatu out to work with the former government, which has been accused of massive corruption. Mahathir, a two-time prime minister, resigned in protest.

Mahathir said he still has the majority support of legislators and has called for a no-confidence vote against Muhyiddin.

In their statement, Mahathir and the other expelled members said they may take legal action to challenge their termination and ensure Bersatu is not used as a vehicle for those crazy for power.

Party letters sent to the five said their membership had ceased as they sat with the opposition bloc during a half-day parliament sitting on May 18. But the letter was signed by a lower official who Mahathir's group and others said had no power to remove them.

Muhyiddin had earlier unsuccessfully tried to reconcile with Mahathir.

The current government includes the party of ex-Prime Minister Najib Razak, who is on trial on charges related to an enormous financial scandal.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/05/mahathir-vows-challenge-expulsion-party-200529103957872.html

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Now that Iam no more the Prime Minister, I take it that I can now speak without restrain and address the Kashmir issue without threats of boycotts and such.<br><br>AT THE “KASHMIR’S ONE YEAR LOCKDOWN SINCE 5TH AUGUST 2019<br><br>KUALA LUMPUR</p>— Dr Mahathir Mohamad (@chedetofficial) <a href="https://twitter.com/chedetofficial/status/1292040977935298560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[MenInG]

ISLAMABAD: Amid an ongoing debate in the country over lack of support by Muslim countries and the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) for the Kashmir cause, Prime Minister Imran Khan on Saturday expressed his gratitude to former prime minister of Malaysia Dr Mahathir Bin Mohamad for speaking in support of the people of India-held Kashmir.

“I want to thank Dr Mahathir Bin Mohamad for speaking in support of Kashmiris and against Indian repression in the IIOJK (Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir) — this time at a function on 8 Aug to mark a year of the illegal Indian actions in (the) IIOJK,” Mr Khan wrote on his official social media account on Twitter.

The 95-year-old Mahathir, who announced on Friday his plan to launch a new political party, reportedly spoke in support of the people of held Kashmir at a ceremony in Kuala Lumpur on Friday before taking to Twitter to defend his last year’s speech at the United Nations General Assembly as the prime minister of Malaysia, where he had criticised India over the situation in the occupied valley.

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Read: At 94, Mahathir still punching in Malaysia's political fray

“To my mind, keeping quiet is not an option when all the tell-tale signs were pointing towards another situation whereby a big and powerful country imposed its will with impunity on a small and defenceless nation,” Dr Mahathir said while referring to India’s act of annexing occupied Kashmir through a constitutional amendment revoking special status of the disputed territory.

Keeping quiet not an option, former Malaysian premier says at a ceremony in Kuala Lumpur

Dr Mahathir said now when he was no longer prime minister of his country, “I can now speak without restrain and address the Kashmir issue without threats of boycotts and such”.

“What transpired since my contentious speech at the UN General Assembly in September last year only served to prove that what I had said were mild and to a certain degree, restrained,” the former Malaysian premier said later in a tweet.

“I offer no apology for what I had said though I am sorry that it had affected our palm oil export to India. I don’t know, if that is a high price to pay for speaking out against such injustices,” he wrote in another tweet.

In his speech at the UN General Assembly, Dr Mahathir had criticised India’s action in Kashmir and called it an “invasion” of the occupied valley. His remarks led to backlash from India, Malaysia’s largest importer of palm oil, in the form of order cancellations and import bans.

“There may be reasons for this action but it is still wrong. The problem must be solved by peaceful means. India should work with Pakistan to resolve this problem,” he had stressed.

He had also criticised a new citizenship law in India that excludes Muslim immigrants. In retaliation for his comments, India, which was once the biggest buyer of palm oil, put curbs in January on purchases from Malaysia.

Frustration in Islamabad over the OIC’s inaction on Kashmir has been growing for months and Prime Minister Khan had voiced his concern while speaking at a think-tank during his visit to Malaysia in February.

“The reason is that we have no voice and there is a total division amongst [us]. We can’t even come together as a whole on the OIC meeting on Kashmir,” Mr Khan had said.

Foreign policy experts are giving importance to Prime Minister Khan’s tweet in the backdrop of the statement of Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi who had asked Saudi Arabia-led OIC to stop dilly-dallying on convening a meeting of its Council of Foreign Ministers (CFM) on Kashmir.

“I am once again respectfully telling the OIC that a meeting of the Council of Foreign Ministers is our expectation. If you cannot convene it, then I’ll be compelled to ask Prime Minister Imran Khan to call a meeting of the Islamic countries that are ready to stand with us on the issue of Kashmir and support the oppressed Kashmiris”, Mr Qureshi had said while participating in a talk show on a private TV channel on August 5.

“If the OIC fails to summon the CFM meeting, Pakistan will be ready to go for a session outside the organisation,” the minister had said in an unusual warning.

Pakistan has been pushing for the foreign ministers’ meeting of the 57-member bloc of Muslim countries, which is the second largest intergovernmental body after the UN, since India annexed occupied Kashmir last August.

Turkey, Malaysia and Iran had unequivocally rejected India’s annexation of Kashmir and voiced concern on atrocities committed by Indian security forces on the Kashmiris in the occupied valley.

The foreign minister had said Pakistan had skipped the Kuala Lumpur Summit last December at the request of Saudi Arabia and now Pakistani Muslims were demanding of Riyadh to “show leadership on the issue”.

“We have our own sensitivities. You have to realise this. The Gulf countries should understand this,” the foreign minister had said, adding that he could no more indulge in diplomatic niceties.

The foreign minister’s remarks drew the ire of the opposition parties, particularly the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) whose leadership had special relations with the Saudi royal family.

PML-N president Shahbaz Sharif criticised Mr Qureshi for his remarks, terming them “highly unfortunate and irresponsible”.

Mr Sharif said the “cavalier” attitude of the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf government was undermining Pakistan’s core relations with friendly countries. He urged the government to apologise to Saudi Arabia and deal with the matter wisely and efficiently, reminding it about the strategic and historic brotherly relations between the two countries.

On the other hand, during the weekly briefing the outgoing Foreign Office spokesperson Aisha Farooqui had defended the controversial remarks of the foreign minister, saying his statement was a reflection of the people’s aspirations and expectations from the OIC to raise the Kashmir issue internationally.

In reply to a question, she said the foreign minister’s remarks were “not against diplomatic norms.”

Another questioner referred to the FM’s remarks that Pakistan would move forward with or without Saudi Arabia on the Kashmir issue and asked if it was a political statement or the official position. Ms Farooqui replied that Pakistan and its people had more expectations from the OIC than from any other international organisation because of deep-rooted and fraternal ties with OIC member states and the OIC itself.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1573426/imran-thanks-mahathir-for-speech-on-held-kashmir

 

[Bhaijaan]

Respect him to have made a balsy statement. This proves that humanity came first to him than business and economy.

What is the extent of alleged economic loss ?

 

[Itachi]

IK talks a lot about kashmir.

I wonder what native Pakistanis think about his priorities as a prime minister of a nation. Because I certainly wouldn't want our PM to invest more resources in foreign countries or conflicts than issues inside our country.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Malaysia’s Mahathir denies corruption, says most of his money ‘now gone’​

Malaysia’s former Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad has denied engaging in corruption, saying he earned his money from his salary during his decades-long political career and most of it is “now gone”.

In an exclusive interview with Al Jazeera, Mahathir, who is under investigation by the country’s anticorruption agency, hit out at current Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahim over remarks that implied that he had used his time in office to enrich himself and his family.

“I am curious as I have not seen this money and don’t know where they are. If I had taken the money, tell the court how you [Anwar] conclude that I had taken the money,” said Mahathir, 98, who is pursuing a 150 million ringgit ($32m) defamation action against his protégé-turned-rival.

Mahathir, who led Malaysia from 1981 to 2003 and again from 2018 to 2020, said he was willing to go to Switzerland with Anwar to look for banks where he could have stashed away his money.

“If we can find such a bank, I will withdraw 100 percent of the money and give it to the Malays,” Mahathir said.

Mahathir also accused Anwar of targeting his two eldest sons, Mirzan Mahathir and Mokhzani Mahathir.

Anwar, who served as Mahathir’s deputy during the 1990s, has denied targeting political rivals and said he does not intervene in the legal process.

“As he [Anwar] stated, he had files, boxes, documents which shows I have taken money. Well show, if you have the boxes, show them. But until now, he has not shown [the boxes]. Instead, he has tried to bypass [that] and now, he is going after my children Mokhzani and Mirzan,” Mahathir said.

In January, the Malaysia Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) ordered Mirzan Mahathir and Mokhzani Mahathir to declare their assets as part of inquiries prompted by the Pandora and Panama Papers leaks.

The anticorruption agency in April confirmed that it was investigating Mahathir as part of the probe.

Mahathir said he does not benefit from his sons’ business activities.

“They don’t give me money from their business,” he said.

Malaysia’s long-serving leader said he forbade his sons from doing business in the country while he was in office as he did not want to be accused of nepotism.

“Mokhzani only succeeded in business after I stepped down. During the time I was prime minister, he was not well-known for being a successful businessman. He was employed by petroleum companies as he was trained in that field,” Mahathir said.

Addressing the source of his wealth, Mahathir said that he earned a monthly salary of 8,000 ringgit ($1,700) when he first became prime minister, rising to 20,000 ringgit ($4,240) by the time he stepped down in 2020.

“For me, that was a fantastic sum… a very big sum of money,” said Mahathir, adding that he was paid 2,000 ringgit ($420) a month when he started out as a medical doctor in private practice in the 1950s.

Mahathir said that he was also provided with benefits, including a house and a car, which helped him to spend little while in office.

“They paid for my electricity, water bill… government gives me transportation, cars and drivers. I don’t have to pay anything,” Mahathir said.

“Even flying, the planes were at my disposal. So what I needed in terms of doing my work as a prime minister were all provided for by the government and the salary I got. I saved it for over 29 years – from being a minister of education to retiring as a prime minister.”

In 2018, Mahathir declared assets worth 32.35 million ringgit ($6.9m).

Mahathir said that when he first stepped down as prime minister in 2003, he rejected an offer from the government for a free piece of land in Putrajaya, a city about 25km (15.5 miles) south of Kuala Lumpur.

“I said no, I don’t take free land. So I bought the land. I paid 1 million ringgit [$212,000] for 5 acres [2 hectares] of land. It is on record that I did not take a single cent from the government,” Mahathir said.

Mahathir said he spent most of his money coming out of retirement in a bid to remove then-Prime Minister Najib Razak from power as the multibillion dollar 1MDB financial scandal unfolded.

The elder statesman contested the 2018 general elections under the banner of the Malaysian United Indigenous Party, which he founded after leaving his longtime political vehicle UMNO, the largest party in the then-governing Barisan Nasional (BN) coalition.

At the age of 92, Mahathir went on to lead the opposition Pakatan Harapan coalition to a stunning victory over BN, which had governed the Southeast Asian country without interruption since its independence from the United Kingdom in 1957.

Mahathir resigned in 2020 amid internal tensions within his PH government.

In 2022, Anwar was elected prime minister following two short-lived premierships under the banner of Perikatan Nasional (PN).

“Unfortunately, when I was out of the government and I was involved in politics, I don’t have any other source of money except my own… I spent most of the money on politics,” he said.

“My party had no money. People don’t donate to the opposition party.”

On Najib, who is seeking to serve the remainder of a six-year prison sentence under house arrest after being convicted for his role in the 1MDB scandal, Mahathir said the former prime minister should not receive special treatment.

“Staying at home means you are free. You don’t come out of your house, but you are free. When you steal billions and you are very well-treated, it is a bad example for future leaders,” Mahathir said.

In February, Malaysia’s pardons board halved Najib’s jail sentence to six years and reduced his 210 million ringgit ($60m) fine to 50 million ringgit ($10.7m).

“They are going to reduce the sentence until it becomes meaningless,” Mahathir said.

“When you give this kind of concession, pardon, reduce the sentence by half and you talk about house arrest, you are not punishing. You are treating this man who has stolen billions of dollars differently.”

Malaysia’s Mahathir denies corruption, says most of his money ‘now gone’

Elder statesman challenges Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahim to prove that he used time in office for personal enrichment.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[JaDed]

Only Erdogan remaining outside jail from the Erdogan-Imran-Mahathir trio , that seemed a like a new Progressive Muslim Front Alliance during that time.

Even Erdogan survived a coup.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Malaysia's former PM Mahathir hospitalised over coughing

Malaysia's 99-year-old former prime minister of two decades, Mahathir Mohamad, has been admitted to hospital for coughing, his spokesman said on Thursday.

Mahathir has been at the National Heart Institute since Monday and will remain in hospital for a few days, his spokesman said, without providing further details on his condition.

The former premier has a history of heart problems and was last admitted to the institute in January for an unspecified infection. He was discharged nearly three months later.

Mahathir had two stints as prime minister, his first ending in 2003 after 22 years in the job.

He returned as premier at the age of 92 after leading the opposition coalition to a historic election win in 2018, defeating the party he once led. His government collapsed in less then two years due to infighting.

REUTERS

 

[Bhaijaan]

Only Erdogan remaining outside jail from the Erdogan-Imran-Mahathir trio , that seemed a like a new Progressive Muslim Front Alliance during that time.

Even Erdogan survived a coup.

Gods favour the brave.

PM Modi ji has not only survived but thrived as a global leader. He’s one of the most recognised leaders in the world today.

Erdogan also just barely survived as you mentioned. But that doesn’t matter as Turkiye has seen one disaster after another in the last few years. Inflation , currency devaluation has been a huge problem for them. No wonder we don’t hear much from him wrt Bharat.