Man Arrested For Using Aurangzeb's Pic On Whatsapp profile after complaints by Hindu organization

[MenInG]

Mumbai: An FIR was registered by Navi Mumbai police against a man for allegedly using Mughal emperor Aurangzeb's image as his Whatsapp profile picture after the issue was raised by a Hindu organisation, an official said on Sunday.
Police arrested the man in Vashi, who works in an outlet of a mobile service provider. He was allowed to go and a notice was issued to him.

The screenshot of Aurangzeb's profile picture was submitted to the police by a Hindu organisation, leading to registration of the case under sections 298 (Uttering words, etc, with deliberate intent to wound religious feelings) and 153-A (Promoting enmity between different groups on grounds of religion, race, place of birth, residence) of the Indian Penal Code, the official said.

Further investigation is underway, he added.

Incidents of communal tension have taken place in various cities of Maharashtra recently over the alleged glorification of Aurangzeb and Tipu Sultan.

In Kolhapur city, protesters pelted stones during a demonstration against the alleged use of Tipu Sultan's image along with an objectionable audio message as social media “status” by a few locals on Wednesday.

Earlier, photos of Aurangzeb were displayed in a procession in Ahmednagar. In Sangamner town, stones were hurled during a rally of Sakal Hindu Samaj in response to the alleged murder of a boy. Two persons were injured and five vehicles were damaged.

Separately, a poster of Aurangzeb was displayed with the raising of objectionable slogans during a religious procession, also in Sangamner, police had said.

NDTV

 

[MP2011]

Andher nagri chaupat Raja.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Cancel culture supported by Government. Ridiculous.

 

[uppercut]

Cancel culture supported by Government. Ridiculous.

you don't see issues with people in todays day and age glorifying historical characters who indulged in horrific human rights atrocities ?

 

[captain.hansolo]

you don't see issues with people in todays day and age glorifying historical characters who indulged in horrific human rights atrocities ?

you don’t want to start this. You don’t know much history nor do you know understand democracy and you obviously are unaware of freedoms and privileges such as freedom of speech. Get a passport, and travel to say England or canada or United States or even Australia. Expand your horizon. Familiarize yourself with more than just India.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

This is stupid. But joshila aunty will find some reason to justify it.

 

[Hitman]

This sounds almost like satire to me. Can't believe this is real. I can't stand those looters/invaders, but this is clearly idiotic.

 

[Itachi]

This is stupid. But joshila aunty will find some reason to justify it.

Put a pic of glorifying Hitler as DP of yours here in op and let's see if it stays.

 

[Varun]

These religious orgs are usually very mentally weak and will drag us 5 centuries backwards. Stay away from them.

 

[Hitman]

Put a pic of glorifying Hitler as DP of yours here in op and let's see if it stays.

It won't be tolerated here, but man was using Aurangzeb's picture as his DP on his personal WhatsApp account.

 

[MP2011]

People are now getting arrested for having Tipu Sultan as their DP.

More bigotry under bigot.

And bhakts have managed to justify even this. These andhbhakts never cease to amaze me.

 

[Hitman]

By the way, how can an image of Aurangzeb even exist in this world ? )

 

[uppercut]

you don’t want to start this. You don’t know much history nor do you know understand democracy and you obviously are unaware of freedoms and privileges such as freedom of speech. Get a passport, and travel to say England or canada or United States or even Australia. Expand your horizon. Familiarize yourself with more than just India.

I would add one more country to your list .... Israel. Substitute Hitler for those 2 and let me know how that would pan out. I would suggest you get acquainted with the concept of FoF .... it is not absolute. Matlab kuchi bhi bol do and then demand that everyone tolerate ... if that is your understanding of what constitutes FoF then you are sadly grossly mistaken.

 

[DRsohail]

Pakistani commenting here ashould think thrice that what is happening in pakistan before saying something here.

 

[MenInG]

By the way, how can an image of Aurangzeb even exist in this world ? )

Also what would the report look like

"Dear Sir/Madam, a friend of mine has a whatsapp profile of that bad Muslim guy - please arrest him asap"

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Put a pic of glorifying Hitler as DP of yours here in op and let's see if it stays.

I am not a fan of Hitler or his ideologies tbh but in South Asia, 70% people won't care about a person having a dp of Hitler. And did Tipu Sultan and Aurangzeb killed millions of people?

 

[BunnyRabbit]

By the way, how can an image of Aurangzeb even exist in this world ? )

lol or even tipu sultan.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Pakistani commenting here ashould think thrice that what is happening in pakistan before saying something here.

Only if Pakistan is ruling by the same principles. Ironically it seems they are, both being ruled according to religious sentiments of the majority, so let us assume both are theocracies.

 

[Technics 1210]

Hitler would easily pass as a profile pic in India. His book Mein Kempf sold more copies in India than any other country in the world.

 

[Varun]

Hitler would easily pass as a profile pic in India. His book Mein Kempf sold more copies in India than any other country in the world.

Any book sells more copies in India than any other country in the world, because the Chinese don't know how to read English.

 

[Technics 1210]

Any book sells more copies in India than any other country in the world, because the Chinese don't know how to read English.

Neither do the majority of Indians which is why Mein Kampf (Mera Sangharsh) was translated in Hindi.

https://www.flipkart.com/mera-sangharsh-adolf-hitler-mein-kampf/p/itm6373fdf875d12

 

[gazza619]

It would not surprise me one bit if laws are introduced by Pakistan authorities to not use Imran Khan’s pic in profile.

I guess I would be banned then.

 

[Major]

Neither do the majority of Indians which is why Mein Kampf (Mera Sangharsh) was translated in Hindi.

https://www.flipkart.com/mera-sangharsh-adolf-hitler-mein-kampf/p/itm6373fdf875d12

damn, that shut [MENTION=132715]Varun[/MENTION] up

 

[cricketjoshila]

6th June is celebrated as coronation day of Shivaji Maharaj. Its a big day for Marathas.

On that very day, some miscreants in Ahmednagar deliberately displayed photos of Aurangzeb and Tipu Sultan with provocative slogans.

This led to a riot like situation in Kolhapur.

If after this someone is deliberately again instigating anyone, law needs to take its course.

 

[cricketjoshila]

damn, that shut [MENTION=132715]Varun[/MENTION] up

Because its a 2010 edition. Still on sale in 2023.

 

[RexRex]

Law enforcement agencies function as the private armies of the ruling hindutva party. Now you know why India has a richly deserved reputation of being a third-world electoral autocracy.

 

[uppercut]

Law enforcement agencies function as the private armies of the ruling hindutva party. Now you know why India has a richly deserved reputation of being a third-world electoral autocracy.

Because a section of its population wants to go back to the dark medevial ages . You conveniently forgot to mention that.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Intolerant India. Hopefully we will get rid of these termites and their ustad ji next year.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

The question was.... Can you change the DP to a picture glorifying Hitler here in pp?

Nope the real question is if someone changes their DP to a picture glorifying Hitler, will the mods remove the picture themselves or call the police?

Some of you take andhbhakhti to another level. You don't have to defend every stupid thing here lol.

 

[FreakCricket]

what about banning Pictures of part time Butcher and full time chai wala, Any possibilities ? For me he is no better than the Invading Mughals

 

[Itachi]

Nope the real question is if someone changes their DP to a picture glorifying Hitler, will the mods remove the picture themselves or call the police?

Some of you take andhbhakhti to another level. You don't have to defend every stupid thing here lol.

If it gains publicity, forget about mods; but PP may held legally.

Some of you ignorants actually don't know anything about repercussions.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

If it gains publicity, forget about mods; but PP may held legally.

Some of you ignorants actually don't know anything about repercussions.

What repercussions? Just accept some of you are so sensitive and act immaturely towards these things.

 

[RexRex]

If it gains publicity, forget about mods; but PP may held legally.

Some of you ignorants actually don't know anything about repercussions.

Both you and [MENTION=155966]uppercut[/MENTION] really need to seek help. I thought you might be the more reasonable supporters of Modi but you're just as paranoid and delusional as rajdeep and joshilla. Your religious insecurities are very deep if you feel threatened by a whatsapp pic of Aurangzeb. Unbelievable.

 

[uppercut]

Both you and [MENTION=155966]uppercut[/MENTION] really need to seek help. I thought you might be the more reasonable supporters of Modi but you're just as paranoid and delusional as rajdeep and joshilla. Your religious insecurities are very deep if you feel threatened by a whatsapp pic of Aurangzeb. Unbelievable.

ok ... lets do this exercise ... Simple question: Is it right or wrong for someone to be feeling proud of the 2 individuals in question in 2023 ? Provide a direct single word answer. Right or Wrong.

Once you provide an answer we can discuss what can or cannot be done about it.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Law enforcement agencies function as the private armies of the ruling hindutva party. Now you know why India has a richly deserved reputation of being a third-world electoral autocracy.

Why do certain people think that glorification of a bigoted tyrant is necessary? Esp on Shivaji Maharaj's coronation day?

You really think most Indians care about the opinion of NYT and others and the NGOs.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Both you and [MENTION=155966]uppercut[/MENTION] really need to seek help. I thought you might be the more reasonable supporters of Modi but you're just as paranoid and delusional as rajdeep and joshilla. Your religious insecurities are very deep if you feel threatened by a whatsapp pic of Aurangzeb. Unbelievable.

We are all paranoid and need to follow the ways of the country of your residence.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Why do certain people think that glorification of a bigoted tyrant is necessary? Esp on Shivaji Maharaj's coronation day?

You really think most Indians care about the opinion of NYT and others and the NGOs.

It was a WhatsApp profile picture of an individual WhatsApp user. The fuss that is being made you would think the city authorities had declared a national holiday for Aurangzeb, who let's not forget, was a former ruler of India.

 

[Technics 1210]

Would a Whatsapp profile pic of Queen Victoria or Mountbatten be frown upon in India - I do wonder - or is it a case of just historical and inspirational Muslim figures of Indian history?

 

[RexRex]

Should a person with Winston Churchill profile pic be arrested in India, or any other colonial figure as mentioned above ? Churchill was known for his racist language against Indians and responsbile for orchestrating numerous deaths through the Bengal Famine.

Do answer [MENTION=155966]uppercut[/MENTION] [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]

 

[KingKhanWC]

This sounds almost like satire to me. Can't believe this is real. I can't stand those looters/invaders, but this is clearly idiotic.

lol. He was born in India. What makes one an invader in your view? Someone who is not a Hindu extremist?

 

[KingKhanWC]

This sounds almost like satire to me. Can't believe this is real. I can't stand those looters/invaders, but this is clearly idiotic.

Why do certain people think that glorification of a bigoted tyrant is necessary? Esp on Shivaji Maharaj's coronation day?

You really think most Indians care about the opinion of NYT and others and the NGOs.

India has 300 million odd who are not Hindu extremists from other religions. They dont believe he was a tyrant or invader. Hindutva forcing their bigoted views on others can only work with fear and fascism.

If we go by this on wiki, he was one of India's greatest rulers.

"Bureaucracy

Mughal Empire under Aurangzeb in early 18th century
Aurangzeb's imperial bureaucracy employed significantly more Hindus than that of his predecessors.

Between 1679 and 1707, the number of Hindu officials in the Mughal administration rose by half, to represent 31.6% of Mughal nobility, the highest in the Mughal era.[62][63] Many of them were Marathas and Rajputs, who were his political allies.[62] However, Aurangzeb encouraged high ranking Hindu officials to convert to Islam.[64]

Economy
Under his reign, the Mughal Empire contributed to the world's GDP by nearly 25%, surpassing Qing China, making it the world's largest economy and biggest manufacturing power, more than the entirety of Western Europe, and its largest and wealthiest subdivision, the Bengal Subah,[65] signaled proto-industrialization.[66][67][68]

"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurangzeb

you cannot wipe away history.

Its time to accept India was ruled by Muslims for centuries making it one of the greatest empires and richest nations.

Now Under Modi and Hindutva, its a 3rd world nation with hundreds of millions in poverty.

Here is a pic of him, seems more well groomed than Modi.

 

[Hitman]

lol. He was born in India. What makes one an invader in your view? Someone who is not a Hindu extremist?

Doesn't matter where he was born, his ancestors came to India to loot and plunder. An invader is someone who comes from outside to loot and plunder like those animals did.

We will decide who were Indians, and who were outsiders, not Pakistanis.

 

[Hitman]

India has 300 million odd who are not Hindu extremists from other religions. They dont believe he was a tyrant or invader. Hindutva forcing their bigoted views on others can only work with fear and fascism.

If we go by this on wiki, he was one of India's greatest rulers.

"Bureaucracy

Mughal Empire under Aurangzeb in early 18th century
Aurangzeb's imperial bureaucracy employed significantly more Hindus than that of his predecessors.

Between 1679 and 1707, the number of Hindu officials in the Mughal administration rose by half, to represent 31.6% of Mughal nobility, the highest in the Mughal era.[62][63] Many of them were Marathas and Rajputs, who were his political allies.[62] However, Aurangzeb encouraged high ranking Hindu officials to convert to Islam.[64]

Economy
Under his reign, the Mughal Empire contributed to the world's GDP by nearly 25%, surpassing Qing China, making it the world's largest economy and biggest manufacturing power, more than the entirety of Western Europe, and its largest and wealthiest subdivision, the Bengal Subah,[65] signaled proto-industrialization.[66][67][68]

"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurangzeb

you cannot wipe away history.

Its time to accept India was ruled by Muslims for centuries making it one of the greatest empires and richest nations.

Now Under Modi and Hindutva, its a 3rd world nation with hundreds of millions in poverty.

Here is a pic of him, seems more well groomed than Modi.

View attachment 119581

Looks like a well groomed animal.

 

[Technics 1210]

India has 300 million odd who are not Hindu extremists from other religions. They dont believe he was a tyrant or invader. Hindutva forcing their bigoted views on others can only work with fear and fascism.

If we go by this on wiki, he was one of India's greatest rulers.

"Bureaucracy

Mughal Empire under Aurangzeb in early 18th century
Aurangzeb's imperial bureaucracy employed significantly more Hindus than that of his predecessors.

Between 1679 and 1707, the number of Hindu officials in the Mughal administration rose by half, to represent 31.6% of Mughal nobility, the highest in the Mughal era.[62][63] Many of them were Marathas and Rajputs, who were his political allies.[62] However, Aurangzeb encouraged high ranking Hindu officials to convert to Islam.[64]

Economy
Under his reign, the Mughal Empire contributed to the world's GDP by nearly 25%, surpassing Qing China, making it the world's largest economy and biggest manufacturing power, more than the entirety of Western Europe, and its largest and wealthiest subdivision, the Bengal Subah,[65] signaled proto-industrialization.[66][67][68]

"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurangzeb

you cannot wipe away history.

Its time to accept India was ruled by Muslims for centuries making it one of the greatest empires and richest nations.

Now Under Modi and Hindutva, its a 3rd world nation with hundreds of millions in poverty.

Here is a pic of him, seems more well groomed than Modi.

View attachment 119581

The thing is, modern Indians do accept and embrace the British despite the British being the true invaders and looters of India.

The agenda is clear in India.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Doesn't matter where he was born, his ancestors came to India to loot and plunder. An invader is someone who comes from outside to loot and plunder like those animals did.

We will decide who were Indians, and who were outsiders, not Pakistanis.

This is weak logic.

By this logic, Dravidians should call Hindus invaders, as they were present before Hindus arrived. Besides a religion is a belief , an idea of living life, this can change.

You can have your view but you DONT decide who is an Indian or not, history does. An Indian is someone who is born in India , regardless of their faith which may offend you.

I would suggest Hindus should be wanting more such invaders who made the land the richest in the world. There were less Hindus living in poverty, slums under Muslim rule than there are now under Hindutva rule.

Get over history, it cant be changed. If you are angry at people who lived hundreds of years ago, my suggestion...be ANGRY at your ancestors who were easily conquered and who were living in backwardness for centuries.

 

[KingKhanWC]

The thing is, modern Indians do accept and embrace the British despite the British being the true invaders and looters of India.

The agenda is clear in India.

Inferiority complex seeing white skin. Even to this day, if you watch the Wagah border ceremony the Pakistanis are in their traditional attire, while Indians are in trousers. Next you'll here from Modi , modern trousers(what we wear now) were invented by a Yoga practicing Guru 2000BC.

Even now in modern India, they want to be like the west. Is this due to some sort of Stockholm syndrome or are they ashamed of their own culture?

The Muslims came, continued with their own practices while taking some from the people they ruled. As they were not confused as to their identity and supported by the Islamic world, they are the only EMPIRE IN Indian history to turn this land into the wealthiest, most modern and powerful land.

Even in a 100 years Modi and the RSS will get nowhere near the level of wealth and culture the Mughals created.

 

[Technics 1210]

Inferiority complex seeing white skin. Even to this day, if you watch the Wagah border ceremony the Pakistanis are in their traditional attire, while Indians are in trousers. Next you'll here from Modi , modern trousers(what we wear now) were invented by a Yoga practicing Guru 2000BC.

Even now in modern India, they want to be like the west. Is this due to some sort of Stockholm syndrome or are they ashamed of their own culture?

The Muslims came, continued with their own practices while taking some from the people they ruled. As they were not confused as to their identity and supported by the Islamic world, they are the only EMPIRE IN Indian history to turn this land into the wealthiest, most modern and powerful land.

Even in a 100 years Modi and the RSS will get nowhere near the level of wealth and culture the Mughals created.

Of all the G20 nations, Modi is the only G20 leader begging the British government to lift immigration limits on Indians. He knows deep down how foreign money is keeping India alive.

Definitely a case of stockholm syndrome.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Of all the G20 nations, Modi is the only G20 leader begging the British government to lift immigration limits on Indians. He knows deep down how foreign money is keeping India alive.

Definitely a case of stockholm syndrome.

No wonder Indians are arriving in boats to the UK in large numbers. Surely instead of worrying about hundreds of years ago, RSS should be providing work for their people instead of asking them to run off to former conquerers?

Under Aurangzeb Hindus flourished more than any other Mughal era. Dr Ram Puniyani is an Indian professor who has debunked Hindutva false history and outright lies.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Auranzeb was a dirtbag and an Islamist. He is detested by majority of Hindus. But arresting someone just for using Aurangzeb as his profile Pic is pathetic.

Freedom of speech and expression must be upheld. Today it is Auranzeb, tomorrow it can be anyone. I will never support this kind of cancel culture supported by law enforcement.

 

[Champ_Pal]

No wonder Indians are arriving in boats to the UK in large numbers. Surely instead of worrying about hundreds of years ago, RSS should be providing work for their people instead of asking them to run off to former conquerers?

Under Aurangzeb Hindus flourished more than any other Mughal era. Dr Ram Puniyani is an Indian professor who has debunked Hindutva false history and outright lies.

They are ecomomic migrants. Not persecuted ones.

Aurangzeb persecuted Hindus man. Stop whitewashing his atrocities. He was an Islamist who wanted the total islamification of Indian subcontinent. Ram Puniyani is a leftist along with Romila Thapar. The curriculam regarding Indian history in Textbooks is all written by Leftists. They lie to not upset the minorities.

 

[Champ_Pal]

The thing is, modern Indians do accept and embrace the British despite the British being the true invaders and looters of India.

The agenda is clear in India.

British looted India. But they also brought modern western education, vaccines, infrastructure to India.

Mughals ruled India for 300 years. Their achievements are
1) Build monuments for their favorite 15th wife.
2) Build Gardens so that they can enjoy with their plethora of women.
3) Experiment with cooking with spices that India offered in plenty.

Not a single thing to improve the lives of a common Indian. They are all self indulging invaders who never accepted local culture or language.

 

[Technics 1210]

British looted India. But they also brought modern western education, vaccines, infrastructure to India.

Mughals ruled India for 300 years. Their achievements are
1) Build monuments for their favorite 15th wife.
2) Build Gardens so that they can enjoy with their plethora of women.
3) Experiment with cooking with spices that India offered in plenty.

Not a single thing to improve the lives of a common Indian. They are all self indulging invaders who never accepted local culture or language.

Yet there'd be nothing for the British to loot had the Mughal Empire not contributed/generated 25% of world GDP.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Yet there'd be nothing for the British to loot had the Mughal Empire not contributed/generated 25% of world GDP.

India was always rich even before Mughals came. You are talking as though Mughals took India from dumpsters to filthy rich nation.

 

[Hitman]

British looted India. But they also brought modern western education, vaccines, infrastructure to India.

Mughals ruled India for 300 years. Their achievements are
1) Build monuments for their favorite 15th wife.
2) Build Gardens so that they can enjoy with their plethora of women.
3) Experiment with cooking with spices that India offered in plenty.

Not a single thing to improve the lives of a common Indian. They are all self indulging invaders who never accepted local culture or language.

It sickens me that Indians have over the years fascinated over those same monuments. Thankfully, people are slowly coming to their senses.

 

[Technics 1210]

India was always rich even before Mughals came. You are talking as though Mughals took India from dumpsters to filthy rich nation.

India was always rich? Who told you that? Rich in what? Spices? Culture? Arts? Or rich in division, poverty, discrimination?

1000s year head start and India had barley anything to show for it until the Mughals arrived. In the end the British built the infrastructure, educational system etc - and make no mistake about it, the British didn't build infrastructure for the benefit of Indians, it was for the benefit of the British so they could transport loot and educate their own. And the vaccines, again, to protect their own, not Indians. Indians have been living off British Imperialistic relics since 1947.

You talk as if India was so rich that it had its own infrastructure, educational, judiciary, sanitation, medicinal systems in place long before the Mughals and the British. Simply not true.

India owes its recognition and identity to the Mughals and the British because 1000s of years prior to this, India achieved squat.

Considering you applaud Western values and relics in India just goes to prove modern Indians under RSS government rather be looted and pillaged by foreigners and not their own. How utterly bizarre.

Though I will grant you natural resources in India considered valuable are by the bucket load.

 

[Champ_Pal]

India had a millennia of humiliation. First it was by Arabs, then Turks and Mongols followed by British. India was always fertile with livable climate and it was a cultural melting pot. Whoever came to India (even invaders) adopted Buddhism or Hinduism and completely Indianized. Even the Greeks accepted Buddhism. India had a thriving trade with other empires and people lived happily. India had its Best centuries under Mauryan rule and then under Gupta empires. It was the golden age of India and the entire subcontinent. 1400 years ago, no country had infrastructure. Tech and science had not progressed much. I give a pass to Arabs and the initial Turkic invasions of Ghaznavis and Ghorid empires.
Mughals had ample time since 16th century to improve the local conditions. By that time Europe started improving by leaps and bounds. Mughals did nothing for 300 years. They enriched their riches and enjoyed all pleasures.

British looted India. But they also brought with them some very important aspects with them. Western education has transformed India. They laid roads and brought modern medicine to the land. More importantly they built schools and educated masses. Sure they did not do it out of love for India. But they still have something to show for their 200 year rule.

 

[SalimBhai]

The people here going on and on about how the Muslims are the ones who provided eveything to the Hindu India . If that was the case well the Muslims got their very own country in 1947. What happened there . Why did they not replicate what the did to Hindu india and bring riches to Pakistan as you claim ..

 

[Hitman]

The people here going on and on about how the Muslims are the ones who provided eveything to the Hindu India . If that was the case well the Muslims got their very own country in 1947. What happened there . Why did they not replicate what the did to Hindu india and bring riches to Pakistan as you claim ..

Because the DNA of the muslims from the subcontinent are different from those invaders.

 

[Technics 1210]

Oh no! Aurangzeb wanted Islamification of India. So what?

The Romans didn't eat daal roti with their neighbours, the Romans went to war, looted, built, and enforced their way of life on conquered land. We see this even today with the American Empire, they invade, bomb, and try to enforce their ideology on other nations.

This is how empires expand, and the British did exactly the same in India. The British did not convert to Hinduism while in India because it is well documented the British found Hinduism repulsive thus stuck with Christianity; which is reflected in modern India through the very existence and development of Christianity.

Not in any history of humanity do invaders localise.

The reality is with a RSS government, everything is viewed with a Hindu lense so much so, Indian invaders are not the problem, the religion of Indian invaders is the problem and this narrative and revision of history started in 2014 when India was governed by a Hindu majority for the first time in its history.

India has never contributed anything of note to humanity. 5000 years on and it still cannot shrug off repugnant social systems like the caste system, which alledgedly is another British import.

For the record, forget 1400 years, go back 2500 years and infrastructures were in place across the Roman Empire. Google - all roads lead to Europe.

 

[SalimBhai]

Oh no! Aurangzeb wanted Islamification of India. So what?

The Romans didn't eat daal roti with their neighbours, the Romans went to war, looted, built, and enforced their way of life on conquered land. We see this even today with the American Empire, they invade, bomb, and try to enforce their ideology on other nations.

This is how empires expand, and the British did exactly the same in India. The British did not convert to Hinduism while in India because it is well documented the British found Hinduism repulsive thus stuck with Christianity; which is reflected in modern India through the very existence and development of Christianity.

Not in any history of humanity do invaders localise.

The reality is with a RSS government, everything is viewed with a Hindu lense so much so, Indian invaders are not the problem, the religion of Indian invaders is the problem and this narrative and revision of history started in 2014 when India was governed by a Hindu majority for the first time in its history.

India has never contributed anything of note to humanity. 5000 years on and it still cannot shrug off repugnant social systems like the caste system, which alledgedly is another British import.

For the record, forget 1400 years, go back 2500 years and infrastructures were in place across the Roman Empire. Google - all roads lead to Europe.

They did not convert to Islam either. Your logic is juvenile at best

 

[SalimBhai]

Decimal numeral system and the concept of zero: The invention of the decimal numeral system, including the concept of zero, revolutionized mathematics and laid the foundation for modern arithmetic and algebraic systems.

 

[SalimBhai]

Decimal numeral system and the concept of zero: The invention of the decimal numeral system, including the concept of zero, revolutionized mathematics and laid the foundation for modern arithmetic and algebraic systems.

And the best part is Indians and Pakistan can both claim this achievement. As generically he was one of us .

 

[SalimBhai]

And the best part is Indians and Pakistan can both claim this achievement. As generically he was one of us .

Genetically

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The people here going on and on about how the Muslims are the ones who provided eveything to the Hindu India . If that was the case well the Muslims got their very own country in 1947. What happened there . Why did they not replicate what the did to Hindu india and bring riches to Pakistan as you claim ..

Amazing. Hindutvas arrest an individual for putting a Whatsapp profile of Aurangzreb on his own private WhatsApp account and your first contribution to this thread is to bitterly twist about the creation of Pakistan.

Maybe we should send the hindutvas to track down your location for daring to adopt the profile of a Pakistani actor!

Joking aside, if you really want to carp about Islam, why not just pick the best suited thread? There is surely plenty to choose from.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

India had a millennia of humiliation. First it was by Arabs, then Turks and Mongols followed by British. India was always fertile with livable climate and it was a cultural melting pot. Whoever came to India (even invaders) adopted Buddhism or Hinduism and completely Indianized. Even the Greeks accepted Buddhism. India had a thriving trade with other empires and people lived happily. India had its Best centuries under Mauryan rule and then under Gupta empires. It was the golden age of India and the entire subcontinent. 1400 years ago, no country had infrastructure. Tech and science had not progressed much. I give a pass to Arabs and the initial Turkic invasions of Ghaznavis and Ghorid empires.
Mughals had ample time since 16th century to improve the local conditions. By that time Europe started improving by leaps and bounds. Mughals did nothing for 300 years. They enriched their riches and enjoyed all pleasures.

British looted India. But they also brought with them some very important aspects with them. Western education has transformed India. They laid roads and brought modern medicine to the land. More importantly they built schools and educated masses. Sure they did not do it out of love for India. But they still have something to show for their 200 year rule.

Instead of viewing this as a milennia of humiliation, I would suggest adopting it as a strength of Hinduism that they could absorb subjugation and learn from it. Isn't this what Hinduism is all about? Why view it through such a negative lens? I really don't get why modern Hindus seem so angry when they should actually take pride in their ability to bend rather than break. Where do you think yoga got the inspiration from? Why else would terms such as the British Raj be bestowed on the British to venerate their majesty?

 

[Technics 1210]

Instead of viewing this as a milennia of humiliation, I would suggest adopting it as a strength of Hinduism that they could absorb subjugation and learn from it. Isn't this what Hinduism is all about? Why view it through such a negative lens? I really don't get why modern Hindus seem so angry when they should actually take pride in their ability to bend rather than break. Where do you think yoga got the inspiration from? Why else would terms such as the British Raj be bestowed on the British to venerate their majesty?

IMO the reason why modern Hindus in India exhibit a pent up frustration is because they've lacked consistency and an identity when defining Hinduism. Hence the closest they have to either, is Modi.

Ask an Indian what it means to be an Indian historically and the answer revolves around some wishy washy religious/Western identity. Ask them now, and the answer is along the line of being Indian means being a disciple of Modi.

It is the search of meaning, identity, and principles which modern Hindus in India seek because historically Johnny Foreigner denied them said attributes. No on to blame but the indigenous of India.

Frustration leads to anger.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

IMO the reason why modern Hindus in India exhibit a pent up frustration is because they've lacked consistency and an identity when defining Hinduism. Hence the closest they have to either, is Modi.

Ask an Indian what it means to be an Indian historically and the answer revolves around some wishy washy religious/Western identity. Ask them now, and the answer is along the line of being Indian means being a disciple of Modi.

It is the search of meaning, identity, and principles which modern Hindus in India seek because historically Johnny Foreigner denied them said attributes. No on to blame but the indigenous of India.

Frustration leads to anger.

Agreed, but why the singular hatred of the Mughal empire? The Mughals came with Islam, and at least they were sharing with the over-arching aim of inclusivity, where all who became Muslims would be part of the glorious empire. Compare that with the British Raj who viewed India as merely resources to be mined, including the population who were considered little more than vermin.

I always figured Indians accepted Mughal history as part of their own, and let's be honest, it's still so evident today, in the culture, in the architecture, in the food and even the language. Why not own it rather than live in shame?

 

[Technics 1210]

Agreed, but why the singular hatred of the Mughal empire? The Mughals came with Islam, and at least they were sharing with the over-arching aim of inclusivity, where all who became Muslims would be part of the glorious empire. Compare that with the British Raj who viewed India as merely resources to be mined, including the population who were considered little more than vermin.

I always figured Indians accepted Mughal history as part of their own, and let's be honest, it's still so evident today, in the culture, in the architecture, in the food and even the language. Why not own it rather than live in shame?

Simply because the Mughals put India on the map and provided a sense of identity among Indians, something which Hinduism failed to do for many reasons, such as the caste system. Hence the hatered stems from jealousy.

I would also say the hatered towards the Mughal empire is simply down to the fact the Mughals introduced Islam (Monotheistic faith) to a land of Polytheism, and today the most popular symbols of India were built by Muslims which attracts Western tourism.

Lets not forget about the conversion of Hindus to Islam. There is a sense among Hindus in India that Hinduism is a declining identity and under threat. Even Buddhism is a sanitised version of Hinduism.

Had it been the Crusaders that invaded Indians, or the Romans, then I am sure Christianity would be the target now but the British were not interested in spreading Christianity, the British were simply visiting for the loot.

The ironic thing is when the British left India, they brought home the loot, the spoils of war, the Kohinoor etc, but the one thing they left in India, was Hinduism.

 

[SalimBhai]

Amazing. Hindutvas arrest an individual for putting a Whatsapp profile of Aurangzreb on his own private WhatsApp account and your first contribution to this thread is to bitterly twist about the creation of Pakistan.

Maybe we should send the hindutvas to track down your location for daring to adopt the profile of a Pakistani actor!

Joking aside, if you really want to carp about Islam, why not just pick the best suited thread? There is surely plenty to choose from.

I don’t think anyone is supporting the arrest captain sahib. I am pointing out the stupid logic being used. . British did not accept Islam or Hinduism. Not just Hinduism. . Also if the Muslims were so good for the sub continent why did it not help Pakistan after its creation Simple questions to ask. But as usual you are just trolling.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I don’t think anyone is supporting the arrest captain sahib. I am pointing out the stupid logic being used. . British did not accept Islam or Hinduism. Not just Hinduism. . Also if the Muslims were so good for the sub continent why did it not help Pakistan after its creation Simple questions to ask. But as usual you are just trolling.

Lol. You ignored the entire point of the whole topic to go off on one tiny tangent about the creation of Pakistan, and it's me who's trolling.

 

[SalimBhai]

Lol. You ignored the entire point of the whole topic to go off on one tiny tangent about the creation of Pakistan, and it's me who's trolling.

I am not against the creation of Pakistan. I see you are just trolling. Keep at it

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I am not against the creation of Pakistan. I see you are just trolling. Keep at it

The topic was about an individual WhatsApp user in Inida being arrested for using an imaginary image of Aurangzeb as his WhatsApp profile. Just in case you missed it.

 

[SalimBhai]

The topic was about an individual WhatsApp user in Inida being arrested for using an imaginary image of Aurangzeb as his WhatsApp profile. Just in case you missed it.

And your comments and your sidekicks comments relate to that topic? You guys are going on and on about British raj and Hinduism and it’s faults . Self awareness among other things is lacking I see

 

[uppercut]

Should a person with Winston Churchill profile pic be arrested in India, or any other colonial figure as mentioned above ? Churchill was known for his racist language against Indians and responsbile for orchestrating numerous deaths through the Bengal Famine.

Do answer [MENTION=155966]uppercut[/MENTION] [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]

Yes .... one of the worst scumbags ever. The bigger point I am trying to make is that of awareness. Because history has this uncanny knack of repeating.

Now can you answer my question I posed in post# 34 earlier in this thread ?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

And your comments and your sidekicks comments relate to that topic? You guys are going on and on about British raj and Hinduism and it’s faults . Self awareness among other things is lacking I see

If you want to ask me about any of my comments (all on topic), feel free to quote me. I'm sorry I can't speak on behalf of anyone else.

 

[KingKhanWC]

They are ecomomic migrants. Not persecuted ones.

Aurangzeb persecuted Hindus man. Stop whitewashing his atrocities. He was an Islamist who wanted the total islamification of Indian subcontinent. Ram Puniyani is a leftist along with Romila Thapar. The curriculam regarding Indian history in Textbooks is all written by Leftists. They lie to not upset the minorities.

My advice is for you to burn the RSS backed Indian history books. You claim its leftists but the RSS are one of the most extreme people on Earth who would not allow anything which goes against their backward extremist mindset.

Under him more Hindus were in powerful positions than any other Mughal leader. As I mentioned even Indian Hindu historians with credibility accept this.

Under Modi and Hindutva India still remain a 3rd world nation. I dont think India will ever get to the level of wealth and power as it was under Aurangzeb or Mughals. Mughals still account for much of Indian culture to this day.

 

[SalimBhai]

Mughals were invaders. Not much different than European or Turkish colonizers. Did some good, mostly bad. If they were so great they would have not been subdued by a few britishers.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Mughals were invaders. Not much different than European or Turkish colonizers. Did some good, mostly bad. If they were so great they would have not been subdued by a few britishers.

Most nations have been invaded or did you not learn history of how your new heros where you have immigrated to created the stars and stripes? No people have massacred so many natives as the Yanks have but thats ok because you they let the boat in.

Mughals turned the land into the richest nation on the planet and one of the strongest empires in history.

 

[Technics 1210]

My advice is for you to burn the RSS backed Indian history books. You claim its leftists but the RSS are one of the most extreme people on Earth who would not allow anything which goes against their backward extremist mindset.

Under him more Hindus were in powerful positions than any other Mughal leader. As I mentioned even Indian Hindu historians with credibility accept this.

Under Modi and Hindutva India still remain a 3rd world nation. I dont think India will ever get to the level of wealth and power as it was under Aurangzeb or Mughals. Mughals still account for much of Indian culture to this day.

Economic migrants from one of the fastest growing economies with Trillions?

Something not adding up in the RSS playbook.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Economic migrants from one of the fastest growing economies with Trillions?

Something not adding up in the RSS playbook.

Its worse ,they are claiming to be refugees. Why would RSS followers want to be refugees from a land where the leader thinks he has created a new Hindutva shuppapower? Are even his own fans now starting to see the trees through the woods?