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Would it be better for a Pak man to marry in Pak to a lesser educated yet cultured lady or a well educated less Pak cultured one in the west? Are Pak weddings in the west more successful then when the gal arrives from back home? These questions have been on my mind for a while so would like to hear the experiences from men in both groups. I have recently become very fond of ladies in Pak instead of those born and raised in the west so much that I am seriously thinking of marry a gal in Pak.
 
Do you want to get cheated on and divorced ?

I think you know the answer to this question.
 
I'd personally prefer a girl that grew up in the west as she would get me. I feel like there's too big cultural gap with a girl that's lived her whole life in Pakistan regardless of how educated and well off she is.
 
Personally i would prefer a girl born and raised in Pakistan
 
5-7 year's ago Pakistani girls. Now Girls from where you live. Girls in Pakistan are not better than Pakistani girls from West as many believe
 
West. Gals in Pak are traditional and pretty which is why I like them.

Just watch out. I know quite a few people who have had bad experiences or near bad experiences marrying from Pakistan. A neighbor got their son married in Pakistan, and as soon as she got to Canada, she demanded to get a divorce. Also lots of fake rishtas and lying, since it is hard to verify stuff from all the way over here. You have to deal with a lot of greed as well, since people will want to marry you just because you are from the west, it's a sad truth.
 
Also what do you mean by traditional and pretty? I'm pretty sure your genetics don't change depending where you're living.

I mean they tend to respect their elders more and dress conservatively in traditional attire. Pak gals in the west are naturally effected by the common culture here, many can't even speak good Urdu or Punjabi. I will certainly double check her background should I ever decide to marry in Pak making sure she is not a gold digger who'll leave me high and dry.
 
I mean they tend to respect their elders more and dress conservatively in traditional attire. Pak gals in the west are naturally effected by the common culture here, many can't even speak good Urdu or Punjabi. I will certainly double check her background should I ever decide to marry in Pak making sure she is not a gold digger who'll leave me high and dry.

It's a mixed bag in both areas I guess, I think you're making girls from here look much worse than they are and girls from Pakistan look much better than they are through your generalization. I have cousins in Pakistan who a lot more disrespectful than girls I've seen here. Maybe I just have bad cousins but the new generation in Pakistan doesn't seem to be that different from here. Truth is you'll find good people here and there, so the goal should be to find that good person regardless of where they're from.

Not speaking good Urdu is true, but be honest, if you're living in the west, Urdu is going to die throughout our generations anyways. I can't speak Urdu as well as my parents can, surely my kids Urdu will be worse than mine, it is something unavoidable as long as you are living here.
 
The biggest benefit of marrying girls from Pakistan is the quantity. Lets say you live in Dallas and your family is from Karachi. You might have a 100 to 1 ratio of middle class educated girls from Karachi to Dallas. This gives you a better chance of getting the cream of the crop ones. Esp since alot of people want to leave Pak and come to the West.

However don't assume that girls from Pakistan are a certain way and girls from the West are another way. There are all types of girls in both location. You can find traditional girls in the West and you can find Westernized girls in Pakistan. Again because of the quantity it might be easier to get someone from there who meets all your requirements.

I have seen successful marriages of guys in the West to Pakistani girls and to Western girls. Also seen some unsuccessful ones.
 
It's a mixed bag in both areas I guess, I think you're making girls from here look much worse than they are and girls from Pakistan look much better than they are through your generalization. I have cousins in Pakistan who a lot more disrespectful than girls I've seen here. Maybe I just have bad cousins but the new generation in Pakistan doesn't seem to be that different from here. Truth is you'll find good people here and there, so the goal should be to find that good person regardless of where they're from.

Not speaking good Urdu is true, but be honest, if you're living in the west, Urdu is going to die throughout our generations anyways. I can't speak Urdu as well as my parents can, surely my kids Urdu will be worse than mine, it is something unavoidable as long as you are living here.

Completely agree.
 
Big lol at men who live their whole lives in the west,have their share of fun,party,perhaps even have female friends who are independent and outgoing and then want wives from Pakistan who are traditional and simple and say 'jee huzoor haan huzoor' :))

Double standards.smh.
 
Whatever makes you happy man. Like others have mentioned here you will find good and bad ones in both places. Don't assume because they live in Pakistan they will behave a certain way, everyone in Pakistan is on facebook and netflix these days they know more about the western culture than some people I've met who live in the west.
 
It's a mixed bag in both areas I guess, I think you're making girls from here look much worse than they are and girls from Pakistan look much better than they are through your generalization. I have cousins in Pakistan who a lot more disrespectful than girls I've seen here. Maybe I just have bad cousins but the new generation in Pakistan doesn't seem to be that different from here. Truth is you'll find good people here and there, so the goal should be to find that good person regardless of where they're from.

Not speaking good Urdu is true, but be honest, if you're living in the west, Urdu is going to die throughout our generations anyways. I can't speak Urdu as well as my parents can, surely my kids Urdu will be worse than mine, it is something unavoidable as long as you are living here.

Some girls here of Pak ethnicity are indeed nice too but their families have high demands. Problem with girls in Pak would be poor English speaking standards. If one generation passes on linguistic skills to the next then there is no reason why they should not have good command off it. I blame the parents if their kid's speak poor Urdu.
 
Big lol at men who live their whole lives in the west,have their share of fun,party,perhaps even have female friends who are independent and outgoing and then want wives from Pakistan who are traditional and simple and say 'jee huzoor haan huzoor' :))

Double standards.smh.

There are many good Pak men in the west as well. Don't judge all as being womanisers or clubbers. Independence does not mean things that you are equating with it at all. You need a reality check or are you one of them yourself?.
 
Western women are not faithful.

You are young and do not know their true nature yet.

In time you will come to understand.

By western do you mean Pak gal's in the west? You don't know my age:uakmal
 
I've been to Pakistan and have hung out with my cousins there, there are many girls that are sexually active there, drink and do drugs. Pakistan has one of the highest abortion rates in the world.
 
Some girls here of Pak ethnicity are indeed nice too but their families have high demands. Problem with girls in Pak would be poor English speaking standards. If one generation passes on linguistic skills to the next then there is no reason why they should not have good command off it. I blame the parents if their kid's speak poor Urdu.

My parents were born and raised in Pakistan, I was born and raised here. It is not their fault that my Urdu is inferior to theirs. We speak in Urdu at home, but that can only teach you so much. I have never had to read or write an assignment in Urdu as they would've had to when they were young. Likewise their English is worse than mine because they've never had to speak a lot of English in their life.
 
I've been to Pakistan and have hung out with my cousins there, there are many girls that are sexually active there, drink and do drugs. Pakistan has one of the highest abortion rates in the world.

Spot on.

I have seen the same.

Always judge a person as an individual whether it's in Pakistan or elsewhere.
 
To be honest marrying from back home is kinda risky, I've seen guys who marry from back home when all they want is a passport, money and bring their relatives with them. It would be better to get with someone from the West since they understand the point of hard work and achieving their goals. Also marriage and dating is too overrated, women ain't even worth stressing over when you can do other stuff in life like making money and other hobbies. Getting caught in your feelings is a scam :))) better to focus on yourself rather than worrying about women. If you think about it, life is so much more stress free when you're not in a relationship or any of that rubbish.
 
My parents were born and raised in Pakistan, I was born and raised here. It is not their fault that my Urdu is inferior to theirs. We speak in Urdu at home, but that can only teach you so much. I have never had to read or write an assignment in Urdu as they would've had to when they were young. Likewise their English is worse than mine because they've never had to speak a lot of English in their life.

I was born and raised in the west as well yet my Urdu is good. This is coz I was made to attend Urdu school by my parents as a kid so being born in the west doesn't wash with me. The Urdu of today's generation is worse then how the elders spoke English. It just depends how badly you want to learn something or your parents eagerness to get their kids taught.
 
Each and every comment is filled with broad generalization.

Everyone is different, it might be for some and not for you.
 
Speaking from personal experience...my wife is Pakistani, born and raised in the West. I am from Karachi originally whereas her parents are from Attok, so you can imagine the difference there. But, she is traditional and independent all in one. She knows how to respect my parents, yet pursue her dreams as well. She gets me as we both grew up here. Alhumdulillah. From what I've seen, girls from Pakistan typically are good at covering up their faults whereas girls here have everything out in the open. Aka Pakistani girls tend to be more chalak from what I've seen. Can't really generalize but don't knock girls from the West. Nowadays, it's all really the same. Just depends on who you get on with.
 
There are many good Pak men in the west as well. Don't judge all as being womanisers or clubbers. Independence does not mean things that you are equating with it at all. You need a reality check or are you one of them yourself?.

Please do point out in my post where i said 'all' men in the west.
I was clearly referring to the particular people who do so no need to get defensive unless you are one of them,in which case it makes sense.
Also their lifestlye is certainly not being judged.Personally i couldn't give a damn about how they choose to live their lives,it is however their double standards which are being called out for those are implemented on others.
 
To the OP there is a third option besides from a Western girl or a Pakistani girl. You can find a girl who grew up in Pakistan however has been in the West for a decent number of years. This way you get a little bit of both Western and Pakistani cultures.
 
West. Gals in Pak are traditional and pretty which is why I like them.

In Pak you can have well educated well cultured girl also. I dont know why in your post you shared less educated and well cultured? And there are many who can live a happy life with you considering your western style also. My daughter is Docter, born in Pak, grew in Pak, became docter in Pak, got married and now she is settled in Australia with her husband and both are living a prosperous life.
 
Marry whomever that's compatible with your values. I myself married local and couldn't be happier. My wife understands the local culture and has a grip of whats going on around her. A girl form Pakistan will probably need a lot of adjusting and you kids will be at a disadvantage as well.
 
Please do point out in my post where i said 'all' men in the west.
I was clearly referring to the particular people who do so no need to get defensive unless you are one of them,in which case it makes sense.
Also their lifestlye is certainly not being judged.Personally i couldn't give a damn about how they choose to live their lives,it is however their double standards which are being called out for those are implemented on others.

I did not quote as saying all men in the west but that is what you are meaning with "all men in the west" comment. You were not referring to anything "clearly" at all other then generalising Pak men in the west living a certain lifestyle yet wanting good ladies. Every good lady dreams of a good man as well, problem is that Pak gangsters expect an angel in return.
 
In Pak you can have well educated well cultured girl also. I dont know why in your post you shared less educated and well cultured? And there are many who can live a happy life with you considering your western style also. My daughter is Docter, born in Pak, grew in Pak, became docter in Pak, got married and now she is settled in Australia with her husband and both are living a prosperous life.

Coz most gals in Pak are not well educated in case it missed you. You have some well educated people everywhere, we all know in Pak education has never been a priority at all so lets stop pretending. So much for IK's "educational emergency". Your daughter will be a minority let me tell you that.
 
I did not quote as saying all men in the west but that is what you are meaning with "all men in the west" comment. You were not referring to anything "clearly" at all other then generalising Pak men in the west living a certain lifestyle yet wanting good ladies. Every good lady dreams of a good man as well, problem is that Pak gangsters expect an angel in return.

Again,please do point out where i have said 'all men'.
You seriously need some comprehension skills if you think my post does not clearly refer to 'those men who do' and not 'all men'.
 
Coz most gals in Pak are not well educated in case it missed you. You have some well educated people everywhere, we all know in Pak education has never been a priority at all so lets stop pretending. So much for IK's "educational emergency". Your daughter will be a minority let me tell you that.

Seriously?:facepalm:
 
Again,please do point out where i have said 'all men'.
You seriously need some comprehension skills if you think my post does not clearly refer to 'those men who do' and not 'all men'.

Never mind my skills instead stop generalising an entire community by your standards. Where did I say you said "all" Pak men. You need to learn how to read so back to school for you or even nursery. " Big lol at men who live their whole lives in the west", this is exactly what you are implying.
 
There are many good Pak men in the west as well. Don't judge allas being womanisers or clubbers. Independence does not mean things that you are equating with it at all. You need a reality check or are you one of them yourself?.

Never mind my skills instead stop generalising an entire community by your standards. Where did I say you said "all" Pak men. You need to learn how to read so back to school for you or even nursery. " Big lol at men who live their whole lives in the west", this is exactly what you are implying.

I can't believe you are denying you ever said that.Its literally there :))
As for my comment i clearly said Pak men in the west 'who' ...followed by the condition.
I can't believe i have to explain the basic grammar of my sentence.
 
Do you know the education rate in Pak? I can see why you are hiding your face!

Yes i,unlike you,live in Pakistan and am well aware of the standard of education here and while it may not be the best for women,the majority of women are not uneducated here,let me assure you.
 
Marry whomever that's compatible with your values. I myself married local and couldn't be happier. My wife understands the local culture and has a grip of whats going on around her. A girl form Pakistan will probably need a lot of adjusting and you kids will be at a disadvantage as well.

Good post.

If you dont mind me asking, what background is she?

I think people should look to marry from outside their culture, if everyone did this racism would be pretty much finished.
 
Good post.

If you dont mind me asking, what background is she?

I think people should look to marry from outside their culture, if everyone did this racism would be pretty much finished.

She is not Desi . That's all I feel comfortable divulging on a public forum . Things have been good Alhumduulllah .
 
She is not Desi . That's all I feel comfortable divulging on a public forum . Things have been good Alhumduulllah .

Thats fine bro. I really dont see why people need to marry from their homeland or their culture or even their religion(if it permits it). Its a big world out there. Wish you happiness going forward.
 
I can't believe you are denying you ever said that.Its literally there :))
As for my comment i clearly said Pak men in the west 'who' ...followed by the condition.
I can't believe i have to explain the basic grammar of my sentence.

What sentence. In your previous post you clearly meant to demean all Pak men in the west as being clubbers and off a low standard. Now you are just denying it by using emoticons as you have been exposed. I have explained what you meant without smilies so you need not do that.
 
Yes i,unlike you,live in Pakistan and am well aware of the standard of education here and while it may not be the best for women,the majority of women are not uneducated here,let me assure you.

Does not matter where I live when the Internet is available to everyone. The bold part has got to be one of the most dumbest things I have ever read on the Internet!:)):))
 
Thats fine bro. I really dont see why people need to marry from their homeland or their culture or even their religion(if it permits it). Its a big world out there. Wish you happiness going forward.

Thanks man ! . I agree , but TBH religion and culture are both important to me . She is a Muslimah and kinda celebrate both our cultures.
 
What sentence. In your previous post you clearly meant to demean all Pak men in the west as being clubbers and off a low standard. Now you are just denying it by using emoticons as you have been exposed. I have explained what you meant without smilies so you need not do that.

Ok so previously you said 'where did i claim you said all men' and when i pointed out exactly where you are back to 'you said all men' along with some useless argument about dont use smilies which is not even worth responding to.

But then again it doesnt take a genius to figure out why you are so flustered,probably hit a nerve,i did.
 
Does not matter where I live when the Internet is available to everyone. The bold part has got to be one of the most dumbest things I have ever read on the Internet!:)):))

Its best you dont use the internet as your source of information because if that's the dumbest thing you have ever read on the internet you have definitely not been on the internet enough.
 
Ok so previously you said 'where did i claim you said all men' and when i pointed out exactly where you are back to 'you said all men' along with some useless argument about dont use smilies which is not even worth responding to.

But then again it doesnt take a genius to figure out why you are so flustered,probably hit a nerve,i did.

I am confused with your claptrap that makes no sense as always! You are obviously trying to escape what the crux of the debate is for good reason no doubt! Smilies because folk like you use them to hide your embarrassment, I am not a man who ever backs off when he believes he is right as is the case here. What nerve do you think you have hit in your mind?? Once again I can only imagine that the you are one off those Pakistanis you are referring to as being this and that!!:)):)) I thought I'd use some emoticons as well!:maqsood
 
Its best you dont use the internet as your source of information because if that's the dumbest thing you have ever read on the internet you have definitely not been on the internet enough.

Seems like my previous mail offended you a lot!:anwar When the whole world knows of how most people especially ladies in Pak are poorly educated you think they are doing well!!:))):))):))) That must be why IK wants and wanted an education emergency!! Stop making a fool of yourself on a public forum with your absurd posts!
 
I am confused with your claptrap that makes no sense as always! You are obviously trying to escape what the crux of the debate is for good reason no doubt! Smilies because folk like you use them to hide your embarrassment, I am not a man who ever backs off when he believes he is right as is the case here. What nerve do you think you have hit in your mind?? Once again I can only imagine that the you are one off those Pakistanis you are referring to as being this and that!!:)):)) I thought I'd use some emoticons as well!:maqsood

Nobody is trying to escape anything.
You are accusing me of generalization, while disregarding the actual crux of the post, and i have proven my point well in the negative.It is only you who is making a fool out of yourself by lacking basic comprehension skills and understanding.
 
Seems like my previous mail offended you a lot!:anwar When the whole world knows of how most people especially ladies in Pak are poorly educated you think they are doing well!!:))):))):))) That must be why IK wants and wanted an education emergency!! Stop making a fool of yourself on a public forum with your absurd posts!

The situation of education in Pakistan is certainly not the best for women but to think that women in Pakistan have poor english speaking skills and majority of them are uneducated and female doctors are a minority (when infact female graduates are higher than males in most medical colleges)is incredibly naive and stupid on your part.
But then again you cant really rationally debate with a person who believes what the internet says and dismisses other people's comments as dumb just because they do not fall within the circle of their intellect or knowledge.
 
Be a quality man. Get a good apartment, car and job. Look good and Marry someone Who value values. Divorce rates are really high and Girls in Pakistan are very chalaak believe me. Social media and forgetting our values have destroyed this generation.
 
Nobody is trying to escape anything.
You are accusing me of generalization, while disregarding the actual crux of the post, and i have proven my point well in the negative.It is only you who is making a fool out of yourself by lacking basic comprehension skills and understanding.

I don't know why you've got the 'ump!!!:))):))):))) I don't see anyone else here calling my views on your nonsense to be foolish! I rightfully gave you a telling off for judging all Pakistanis by your standards! What you meant was all Pakistanis in the west are gamblers and womanisers then when I called you out for it you started crying like a child. Grow Up!
 
I don't know why you've got the 'ump!!!:))):))):))) I don't see anyone else here calling my views on your nonsense to be foolish! I rightfully gave you a telling off for judging all Pakistanis by your standards! What you meant was all Pakistanis in the west are gamblers and womanisers then when I called you out for it you started crying like a child. Grow Up!

So we are playing the 'nobody said i was wrong' game?
So well nobody said that to me either.That doesnt prove a dime.

You gave a telling off to me and now i am pissing my pants :)))
Yeah this isnt the 'lame jokes thread'.Get off your high horse and grow up yourself and perhaps go to school and polish your english comprehension skills.

And again i challenge you one last time to point out where i said all Pakistani men in the west are womanisers and gamblers,if you can then you have proven your point,otherwise dont quote me unnecessarily.I dont have the time to engage with online trolls.
 
The situation of education in Pakistan is certainly not the best for women but to think that women in Pakistan have poor english speaking skills and majority of them are uneducated and female doctors are a minority (when infact female graduates are higher than males in most medical colleges)is incredibly naive and stupid on your part.
But then again you cant really rationally debate with a person who believes what the internet says and dismisses other people's comments as dumb just because they do not fall within the circle of their intellect or knowledge.

Don't be daft! There may be more female graduates that is not an achievement at all when most people in general are poorly educated. Most of the country is rural where school's don't even open and are being converted to donkey shelters. The graduate ladies are only in major cities like Karachi and Islamabad, they are a minuscule taking the overall situation in to account. You are correct that I laugh at people like you and rightly so because you deserve it! When three quarters of the glass is empty I will see that where as you will say there is still a bit of tea left in it! Of coourse much of the information on the Internet is true otherwise you wouldn't be on this site that is also part off it as well. Your immature views and personal remarks is here for everyone to see.
 
Don't be daft! There may be more female graduates that is not an achievement at all when most people in general are poorly educated. Most of the country is rural where school's don't even open and are being converted to donkey shelters. The graduate ladies are only in major cities like Karachi and Islamabad, they are a minuscule taking the overall situation in to account. You are correct that I laugh at people like you and rightly so because you deserve it! When three quarters of the glass is empty I will see that where as you will say there is still a bit of tea left in it! Of coourse much of the information on the Internet is true otherwise you wouldn't be on this site that is also part off it as well. Your immature views and personal remarks is here for everyone to see.

You were talking about your marriage prospects in Pakistan.I assume you are not searching for a bride in the rural areas or villages of Pakistan but instead in the cities perhaps who are not from the very lower social classes.
If so,most of them are not illiterate,uneducated and unable to understand english.

If however you are searching for a bride from the rural areas in Pakistan then yes you might find a larger population of females who are uneducated.
My comment is with the former assumption and it is true whatever you choose to say.
 
If ur looking for compatibility , romance and some one to watch game of throne with it’ll be someone in the west
If ur looking for a model wife who can juggle twenty cooking pans in her hands, teach her whole family how to cook and also bring up the next generation of Adil rashids get married in Pakistan
 
You were talking about your marriage prospects in Pakistan.I assume you are not searching for a bride in the rural areas or villages of Pakistan but instead in the cities perhaps who are not from the very lower social classes.
If so,most of them are not illiterate,uneducated and unable to understand english.

If however you are searching for a bride from the rural areas in Pakistan then yes you might find a larger population of females who are uneducated.
My comment is with the former assumption and it is true whatever you choose to say.

There you go again with wrong assumptions! I did not say anything about not wanting to marry a villager at all. The situation in the cities is much better yet not by international standards, their is still much to do by all means. I am talking about the overall situation In Pak where as you are rambling on about the difference between urban and rural Pak that we all know about.
 
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[MENTION=142169]PakLFC[/MENTION] the Green Patriot guy is right to some extent, Pakistanis girls are not that illiterate, recently it was disclosed that around 80 thousand doctors are not practicing and sitting at home. Furthermore, most practical answer will be that you are not going to marry on the basis of average neither you will marry a girl from thar desert , cholistan or from wana. You will only find someone closer to your cultural & social values & which also match your financial status.
 
If ur looking for compatibility , romance and some one to watch game of throne with it’ll be someone in the west
If ur looking for a model wife who can juggle twenty cooking pans in her hands, teach her whole family how to cook and also bring up the next generation of Adil rashids get married in Pakistan

Quite a shocking generalisation considering some of the ghetto areas in the West. And I don't think you have a lot of interaction with the high-end society in Pakistan.
 
Quite a shocking generalisation considering some of the ghetto areas in the West. And I don't think you have a lot of interaction with the high-end society in Pakistan.

I suppose you’re right
There’s not much difference between high end society in Pakistan and high end society in England
Us non end society in Pakistan are quite lucky in that sense to be sent to England where we have a better chance of reaching high end status
 
Girls in Pak are prettier then Pak girl's born and raised in the west.
 
You should always marry a person who is like you. Going into a marriage is a big investment and you do not want to screw that up.
 
5-7 year's ago Pakistani girls. Now Girls from where you live. Girls in Pakistan are not better than Pakistani girls from West as many believe

Agree! World is a global village now. All the shy and simple Pakistani girls are now brainwashed to be feminazis through media. And they are worse than ones in west. They will pretend to like/love you but it will be your stats attracting them in reality. They wont be willing to work hard as west girls while wanting all the attention and social ladders that girls in west get. You will be their rescue pod.
 
Probably because there is more variation of people in Pakistan. The UK Pakistani mainly come from North Punjab and Mirpur.

But arent punjabis supposed to be tall and good looking? I mean thats the stereotype we generally hear.
 
I do not really know who is better. Both have positive and negatives. Positives of marrying a UK girls are: they will be financially settled, culturally settled, have cultual similarity with you (assuming the guy is from the UK) and generally will be more independent. However, UK girls tend to have over the top expectations; this includes financial expectations. What also puts me off is that some know less about the Pakistani culture; i really would not my children to forget our roots. Ofcourse, some can not cook at all and take feminism too seriously.

Benefits of Pakistani girls are that they tend to get along with your parents better. They seem more understanding and someone who will take your family forward. Local Pakistani girls can be prettier then the UK Pakistani girls. However, they seem less confident, independent and most will not have a settled career if they live in the UK. Having a British passport; it makes me wonder whether Pakistani girls are nice to me generally or because I have a foreign passport.
 
But arent punjabis supposed to be tall and good looking? I mean thats the stereotype we generally hear.

Stupid stereotypes! My family has Punjabi and pashtun roots. Fair to say those family members who took after the pashtun looks are better looking :)
 
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