Match thread - Pak XI v Rest of Pak (26-29 oct)

[shikari]

Does anyone know where Afridi is ?

Mushy seems to be a bad choice. He was picked last time against SA based on his performace with Sussex and he was miserable in the test he was given the chance.

I think if these are the quality of pitches we are going to see against England then we may be in huge trouble. I see a run feast from all the English batsman including Bell

 

[Monsee]

Maybe it's all Woolmer's fault that Akhtar didn't bowl well. had Woolmer not been hell bent on destroying Akhtar's career by preventing him from achieving proper fitness, he would have bowled well and would obviously have nailed Malik.

so, see it is Woolmer's fault after all.

You forgot to name Inzi, Mr. Bush, the CIA, the Pol Pot, Naan Waala, Doodhi, the MQM, Tom cruize, Angelina Jolie, Barney, Louis Farahkhan, Global Warming, Aliens, High Gas Prices, the War...I guess the whole universe is in it

 

[GamBiTT]

I think the reactions here are a bit over-board.
I am a huge Malik fan myself for the heart he shows and am very happy that he got some runs under his belt. He probably is an avid PakPassion reader and had to do this to settle some scores with our wonderful critics here .

HOWEVER, looking at the score and the run-rate at which they scored, I am quite confident that the pitch was a batsman's paradise. This will probably be confirmed when the other side bowls tomorrow some time IF ONLY Kaneria is the successful bowler and Sami, Razzaq, and Rana get hammered similarly as Akhtar, Gul, and Rao.

I think we should be happy that Malik, Younis, and Youuf got some batting practise which should certainly help their confidence for the main events.

 

[kas]

the main thing i take from this game is that the top order seems to be in good form mashallah. malik yk and moyo seem to be batting well. hopefully inzi and the other opener ie farhat will also make runs. its all about confidence and form and if all the top 6 make runs in practise match then we got a chance to beat england.

 

[Mutazalzaluzzaman Tarar]

You forgot to name Inzi, Mr. Bush, the CIA, the Pol Pot, Naan Waala, Doodhi, the MQM, Tom cruize, Angelina Jolie, Barney, Louis Farahkhan, Global Warming, Aliens, High Gas Prices, the War...I guess the whole universe is in it

lol the list goes on, yaara.

the main thing is that the reason for Malik scoring a monumental 177 NO (warmup or not) cannot be Malik's talents or abilities himself. it must be Malik's parchee with Woolmer. I hate this sifarshi culture we have in the team. if we picked teams on merit, Asim Kamal's would be the first name on the paper.

isn't that right, Monsee?

 

[Toony™®]

at least we are showing batting form!

Afridi must be still injured.

he split his webbing on his hand in the last odi.

i thought Butt would be out early- he has been poor form since turn of the yr!

 

[Mutazalzaluzzaman Tarar]

I think the reactions here are a bit over-board.

perhaps the reactions are a little overboard because of the incessant, undeserved and illogical criticism that always hounds some players of the team like Malik regardless of how they actually perform on the field?

 

[GamBiTT]

Does anyone know where Afridi is ?

Mushy seems to be a bad choice. He was picked last time against SA based on his performace with Sussex and he was miserable in the test he was given the chance.

I think if these are the quality of pitches we are going to see against England then we may be in huge trouble. I see a run feast from all the English batsman including Bell

Agreed! I hope the pitches are going to be different from this.

I am quite concerned about Afridi and Shabbir both. I think both should have played in this match. There really was no point playing Rao and Nazir in this match in place when Afridi/Shabbir had to sit out the match.

 

[kas]

i thought Butt woud be out early- he has been poor form since turn of the yr![/QUOTE]

yeh its easy to say it after he is out.

 

[yk]

Hate to break to you guys but the fact that Shoaib is in the Rest of Pakistan team speaks volumes about his current chances of playing. He is outside the first XI and has to force himself in.

That is ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT, if u had kept ureself more up to date, u wud know that Shoaib is in the rest of pakistan team quite DELIBERATELY, so that our first choice batsmen can be exposed to some hostile bowling.

In other words to give them a flavour of what it will be like to face Harmy and Freddie.

As well as that, it will expose our first choice bowlers aginst world class batsmen, like Moyo, YK and Inzi.

Merc has probably mentioned this on PP about a hundered times, as it was Merc himself who suggested it to Bobby.

 

[Monsee]

Monsee, you label others ACC. yet what are you doing with akthar?

) shows what a hypocryte you are.

This is a discussion board maybe you dont have the basic knowledge to understand everyone has an opinion it may however not agree with yours.

you lay into others for criticising. yet you do the same youself.

Posters like farhad etc have pointed this out b4.

Amjid Pondering his line of action (After seeing today's scorecard)

Lets see: I am proven wrong, the whole of PP is about to rip me in to pieces, yet I don't wanna accept that I was wrong, Malik still is a darpoke player, I have no ground to stand on, the player that I have stated is a must for our team has proved to be nothing but a 'Off Ground Bully' in front of players that I have ridiculled 1000's of times,....

What can I do...oh yeah lets attack anyone who argues with me

No need to accept my mistakes, just get on the other person's case...bring something from the past and lets just change the whole topic

And post that smiley

Mission accomplished

 

[KaSaNoVa_G]

malik played a great innings.. lookz like he will now open in the 1st test...
good to see younis khan make a 100 too.. i hope butt makes some runz
2nd innings..

 

[Monsee]

lol the list goes on, yaara.

the main thing is that the reason for Malik scoring a monumental 177 NO (warmup or not) cannot be Malik's talents or abilities himself. it must be Malik's parchee with Woolmer. I hate this sifarshi culture we have in the team. if we picked teams on merit, Asim Kamal's would be the first name on the paper.

isn't that right, Monsee?

I totally agree but who is gonna make a certain poster agree with it

 

[Toony™®]

malik played a great innings.. lookz like he will now open in the 1st test...
good to see younis khan make a 100 too.. i hope butt makes some runz
2nd innings..

if there is a second innings!.. at this rate pakistan will still be batting for a while!

 

[Amjid Javed]

Monsee, u seem to thing ur some sort of preacher aka mr know it all.

yet ur the biggest hypocryte here.

Dont point fingers at others when u criticise urself.

People living in glass houses should throw stones.

 

[Toony™®]

i thought Butt woud be out early- he has been poor form since turn of the yr!

yeh its easy to say it after he is out.[/QUOTE]

well not gonna jinx him b4, am i ?!

 

[Naz]

great to see shoaib destroy shoaib!!!

 

[Monsee]

perhaps the reactions are a little overboard because of the incessant, undeserved and illogical criticism that always hounds some players of the team like Malik regardless of how they actually perform on the field?

Right on again...Amjid, Elan, and many here all they do is day in and day out slack on Malik, Sami, Razzaq etc.

They are not willing to listen to any arguments...all they wanna do is pull these player's past record and how they are not good enough

I guess there is always a time when one has to eat his words...yet Amjid is not even willing to do that! According to him "it was a meaningless practice game", then Shoaib should kiss his chances good bye cause whatever he does in this game, he ain't gonna get no reward cause it is just a meaningless game after all

 

[Monsee]

Monsee, u seem to thing ur some sort of preacher aka mr know it all.

yet ur the biggest hypocryte here.

Dont point fingers at others when u criticise urself.

People living in glass houses should throw stones.

Darpoke, sifarshi, pirchi waala, no technique, no heart, cannot play the moving ball if his life depended on it...according to your expertise shouldn't Shoaib have gotten Malik out in the 2nd or 3rd ball


What happened...I guess we can blame them Indian board for a conspiracy here, right

 

[Mercenary]

If Malik can stand up to Akhtar and Gul with a new ball then it bodes well for the England series. The pitch must have been awful flat tho because there are some big scores there!

 

[kas]

yeh its easy to say it after he is out.

well not gonna jinx him b4, am i ?![/QUOTE]

yeh ok i believe u millions wouldnt. normally ppl get jinxed by saying he would make runs not the other way round. ever heard of Nazar?

 

[Sheikh_Ji]

Go Malik...!

 

[faz]

17 no-balls bowled ,Judging by his figures i think Umar Gul bowled most of them.

 

[kas]

If Malik can stand up to Akhtar and Gul with a new ball then it bodes well for the England series. The pitch must have been awful flat tho because there are some big scores there!

so merceneray ur saying an unfit shoaib akhtar and injury prone umar gul are better bowlers than harmison and flintoff??

england bowlers are much more agressive and there will be more pressure

 

[MIG]

If Malik can stand up to Akhtar and Gul with a new ball then it bodes well for the England series. The pitch must have been awful flat tho because there are some big scores there!

Well, as I had said before that in these types of matches, someone will comeout smelling of roses while others will come out resembling rotten fruits. Normally, thats OK as someone has to win but since both sides are Pakistani (and members of the senior squad) - I realy dont know what this will do for the confidence of people like Akhtar and Gul - I suppose the only plus point for Akhtar is the fact that he bowled a longish spell ( 16 overs according to Saj )

As for Malik - well make what you like of his performance. Was he really good or were people like Akhtar and Gul not up to the mark today ?

 

[Amjid Javed]

Darpoke, sifarshi, pirchi waala, no technique, no heart, cannot play the moving ball if his life depended on it...according to your expertise shouldn't Shoaib have gotten Malik out in the 2nd or 3rd ball


What happened...I guess we can blame them Indian board for a conspiracy here, right

did i say i was an expert? NO. i expressed my opinion. like you do yours.

oh wait! we have to lick players feet and praise them like gods! say no wrong about them! like indians do we?

u seem to have some problems grasping the basic concepts of english or the basic concept of a cricket board. i suggest u go seek some help and learn some basic comprehension skills. maybe then you might talk some sense then.

 

[MIG]

Challo bacho - larro naheen !!! abhi to series shroo hee naheen hoyee kay pehlay hee lar paray tum log !

 

[i m gr8]

Monsee , Seriously i have started to get tired of opening every single thead and finding childish remark about S.Akhtar in all of them whether the thread is related to S.Akhtar or not.
I didnt want to post this but Its getting very irritating !

 

[inzibhai]

how about salman butt?what did he do ?and good to shobby not doing so bad..i hope he makes agianst eng and ge the $hit out of them

 

[Mercenary]

so merceneray ur saying an unfit shoaib akhtar and injury prone umar gul are better bowlers than harmison and flintoff??

england bowlers are much more agressive and there will be more pressure

i said 'it bodes well' which means that its a good sign, i never said it meant he could do the same to harmison and flintoff.

To me this shows that Malik can see off the new ball and score rapidly at the same time. Akhtar presents the challenge of searing pace and Gul of bounce with Line & Length. Two quite varied styles.

Also if you have been following the practice matches and A team matches you should know that Gul is going through a good run of form at the moment, as for Akhtar he is always outstanding for the first 5 overs and if Malik withstood that onslaught then with the right application he can do the same versus any other bowler.

 

[Zaman Park]

Why were only 66.2 overs bowled in the whole day?

 

[zorawar]

Where is Afridi? I would imagine the Pakistan XI side with Afridi coming in for Kamal is the selectors current starting XI for the first Test. Hate to break to you guys but the fact that Shoaib is in the Rest of Pakistan team speaks volumes about his current chances of playing. He is outside the first XI and has to force himself in. Taking 1 wicket so far is not going to do that. In Rugby this would be termed a Probables v Possibles game and Shoaib is in the possibles not probables so there's no point talking fitness or his figures not looking too bad. He has to force himself back into contention. Nothing so far suggests that he will but as they say tomorrow is another day.

Amoeba, you are dead wrong!

Woolmer said in advance that he will try to have the best Pak bowlers bowling to the best Pak batsmen in the practice games. The fact that Shoaib, Gul and Afridi were in the ROP side indicates that they had a better chance of playing than Sami or Razzaq going into this game.

With Shabbir not even included in the practice game and Gul not helping his cause today, it was definitely a positive day for Shoaib.

Malik's innings and Shoaib's decent figures are the best news today Pakistan as far as I am concerned.


However I think it is premature to think that any player whose place was uncertain has sealed their slot yet.

Younus, Inzi, Yousuf, Akmal, were automatic and Malik, Kaneria & Afridi were sure to play at Multan with its turning pitch.

The rest of the 4 slots are still up in the air and there is a long way to go (2 games) before Eid when the team for 1st test may be announced. Now that is a long time in Pakistan Cricket

 

[Amjid Javed]

Challo bacho - larro naheen !!! abhi to series shroo hee naheen hoyee kay pehlay hee lar paray tum log !

I dont mind been proved wrong by players as it benefits pakistan if they do well.

However some people on here seem to thing this is a zombie board where you have 2 fall in line and cant express youre opinion.

Then there are people who label others as ACC`s. whos player international cricket on this board apart from noddy bhai?

No-one to my knowledge. Most people on this board have atleast once said sumat negative about a player wether it be pakistani or indian or english etc...

That is criticising isnt it? (to me its a person expressing their opinion)

sadly hypocrytes like monsee struggle to understand that very basic concept.

 

[cricketOWU]

Chill out guys. Instead of destructive criticisms let have construction criticism

 

[nafajafam]

Why isn't Afridi playing? Any idea guys?

 

[Monsee]

did i say i was an expert? NO. i expressed my opinion. like you do yours.

oh wait! we have to lick players feet and praise them like gods! say no wrong about them! like indians do we?

u seem to have some problems grasping the basic concepts of english or the basic concept of a cricket board. i suggest u go seek some help and learn some basic comprehension skills. maybe then you might talk some sense then.

Why is it that when we try to tell you Amjid take it lightly...you wanna jump over the roofs calling the coach, skipper and PCB corrupt, having no balls, sifarish loving, money hungry...so on and so forth!

I guess it is quite difficult to be on the rceiving end...we have to hear your bakwaas day in and day out...actually 24 hours in and 24 hours out cause you never seem to sleep, start threads 20 days before a game starts,...

Talking about comprehension skills...it is quite hard to read your posts with "There instead of their, Are instead of Our..." and comprehend the meaning at the same time

May I suggest basic ABCD classes for you

 

[desidude]

I think at the end of the day, Shoaib's figure dont look bad at all especially when you look at other bowlers. Malik had to prove something and he did in a style. I am saying again and again, Butt has nothing to do in this test team he is simply not upto the mark. If Malik can play as he is playing in this match, I think Pakistan is very lucky to find a real good opener. The problem is that we have seen similar one day wonders by many other players in the past as well including Butt. What we need is a consistent performer who can delvier again and again without failing too many times. As far as bowlers are concern, Shoaib clearly was pick of the bowler. Look at Mushis and Umer Gul's figures, seems like Malik was in no mood to forgive anyone.

 

[Monsee]

Monsee , Seriously i have started to get tired of opening every single thead and finding childish remark about S.Akhtar in all of them whether the thread is related to S.Akhtar or not.
I didnt want to post this but Its getting very irritating !

So everyone is allowed to call Malik, Razzaq, Sami, Inzi, Bob, PCB management...all the names they want. You have no issues with that, right!

It's just that a certain wannabee starts getting it cause of his 5 year old like attitude...you all of a sudden wanna jump out of your pants

Here is a quarter, go call someonme who cares

 

[deviously~fading~away]

Just like some here are going over the moon with Shoaib's 15 over gigantic show of fast bowling, in the same practice match

If he cannot even get Mr. Bits-n-pieces out, how will he get us that victory that is impossible without him, as you and many have been talking about all the time

World Class Fast Bowler...yep yep

I hope BOTH Malik & Akhtar perform well b/c at the end of the day its PAKISTAN vs England

 

[Amjid Javed]

Why is it that when we try to tell you Amjid take it lightly...you wanna jump over the roofs calling the coach, skipper and PCB corrupt, having no balls, sifarish loving, money hungry...so on and so forth!

I guess it is quite difficult to be on the rceiving end...we have to hear your bakwaas day in and day out...actually 24 hours in and 24 hours out cause you never seem to sleep, start threads 20 days before a game starts,...

Talking about comprehension skills...it is quite hard to read your posts with "There instead of their, Are instead of Our..." and comprehend the meaning at the same time

May I suggest basic ABCD classes for you

No-one Asks you to read my posts.

talking about bakwas once agen i suggest u look at ur own posts b4 pointing finger at anyone else.

oh but wait typical monsee. Always has to preach as he is the the 2high and mighty" and what he says goes.

all hail king monsee. king of hypocrytes.

 

[Monsee]

That is criticising isnt it? (to me its a person expressing their opinion)

sadly hypocrytes like monsee struggle to understand that very basic concept.

Yep, I am a hypocrite...yet you are perfectly fine!

You, even to this day, have not given Younis Khan the credit that he deserved...neither have you taken back those names that you used to call him with and still refuse to issue an appology

I guess it took a useless, sifarshi, darpoke player to show you the mirror

Wait till the same happens with a few others that you call names day in and day out

 

[Monsee]

I hope BOTH Malik & Akhtar perform well b/c at the end of the day its PAKISTAN vs England

I have no issues with that at all...I say lets hope Akhtar takes 10 wickets in the first test

Many here are fine as long as Akhtar plays...even at the expense of Team Pakistan...so they can tell us how he is the only World cLass bowler in our team

 

[Mercenary]

yep this from the person who calls akthar ferrari or jet man!

) keep it up hypocryte!

To be fair Akhtar calls himself a ferrari and a jet plane too.

Has Malik ever called himself a darpoke? Etc?

 

[Monsee]

yep this from the person who calls akthar ferrari or jet man!

) keep it up hypocryte!

Like I posted before:



Amjid Pondering his line of action (After seeing today's scorecard)

Lets see: I am proven wrong, the whole of PP is about to rip me in to pieces, yet I don't wanna accept that I was wrong, Malik still is a darpoke player, I have no ground to stand on, the player that I have stated is a must for our team has proved to be nothing but a 'Off Ground Bully' in front of players that I have ridiculled 1000's of times,....

What can I do...oh yeah lets attack anyone who argues with me

No need to accept my mistakes, just get on the other person's case...bring something from the past and lets just change the whole topic

And post that smiley

Mission accomplished

 

[Monsee]

To be fair Akhtar calls himself a ferrari and a jet plane too.

Has Malik ever called himself a darpoke? Etc?

Oh no don't say that...now you will be called a hypocrite too cause you have challenged the Only Cricket Expert here

 

[Amjid Javed]

Monsee u call junaid zia, khalil, hafeez, akthar names.

like i said dont tell others what to do when u cant do it urself.

hypocryte!

 

[in_cutter]

Just like some here are going over the moon with Shoaib's 15 over gigantic show of fast bowling, in the same practice match

If he cannot even get Mr. Bits-n-pieces out, how will he get us that victory that is impossible without him, as you and many have been talking about all the time

World Class Fast Bowler...yep yep

well other bowlers to get bit n pieces out aswell...umar gul 0-60 off 8 overs )

 

[Monsee]

Monsee u call junaid zia, khalil, hafeez, akthar names.

like i said dont tell others what to do when u cant do it urself.

hypocryte!

Yep divert the real issue...yep lets attack on a personal level and put everyone's attention to other issues

At the end of the day: Malik AKA the darpoke player, the pirchi man, the sifarshi, Mr. Bits-n-pieces...has put in to perspective your cricketing expertise and intellect right where it belongs...Trash Bin

Good Luck with other Sifarshi players now

 

[deviously~fading~away]

Indus Sports said that PCB chairman was very frustrated when he found out that the pitch was a slow wicket. Skindar Bakht said this is quite suprising since PCB's main headquater is in the same city and no one cared enough to tell the grounds man what type of a pitch he should make.

 

[sehsan]

everybody should be happy that malik have scored and we shoudl keep a hope that he will score against england too.

 

[Monsee]

did i at any point say am a cricket expert? NO.

once agen youre making up fabricated bakwas to suit urself. i guess waheed khan is ur idol.

If you pull any thread about Team selection, where ever you have participated (I guess that will be almost all the threads), it is filled with pages upon pages of criticism of Malik as an opener by you...I guess now he has stood up to our only match winner, our only world class bowler, our only super fast bowler

Just accept you were wrong and will try to keep in to perspective all other player's performences and not attack them just cause they are not your favorites!

I guess that will be an impossible task, judging by your inability to accept your mistakes on the Lassi Maker issue

 

[Master-P]

You people are goin on like Pakistan are going to war again with India, calm down they all pakistani at the end of they sadly one set of players are gnr look great and the other wont look so good.

We should be supporting them all as only our cricket team can benefit not turn on certain players becuase you got a grudge against them.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Yep divert the real issue...yep lets attack on a personal level and put everyone's attention to other issues

At the end of the day: Malik AKA the darpoke player, the pirchi man, the sifarshi, Mr. Bits-n-pieces...has put in to perspective your cricketing expertise and intellect right where it belongs...Trash Bin

Good Luck with other Sifarshi players now

yeah it defo has proved a point hasnt it? was this a test match...?

has it proved he can open in test cricket?

 

[Saj]

Monsee and AJ. Cool it gents. No need to call each other names - thanks.

 

[pakistani pride]

WOW ! superb batting by malik and younis with moyo chipping in but this track must be a real flat one !

hope they do not prepair same wickets versus ENG ! ! !

 

[Mercenary]

As much as I have been an advocate of Malik being tried as an opener, lets not get too far ahead of ourselves here. This is only one practise match where all player who got in went on to score big!

Lets see how he does in the 2nd inns (if there is one) and in the other practise matches as well.

 

[Usman]

What is the point of arguing in such a babyish manner against each other? AJ for once agree that Malik played well and admit that at least some of your accusations regarding his technique were proved wrong today rather than jumping at others for no reason and lets all acknowledge the fact that compared to other bowlers Shoaib did well and lets stop these anti-malik and anti-akthar posts! Agreed that everyone is entitled to their own opinion but there is a border line between a good comment and a babyish remark.

 

[in_cutter]

What is the point of arguing in such a babyish manner against each other? AJ for once agree that Malik played well and admit that at least some of your accusations regarding his technique were proved wrong today rather than jumping at others for no reason and lets all acknowledge the fact that compared to other bowlers Shoaib did well and lets stop these anti-malik and anti-akthar posts! Agreed that everyone is entitled to their own opinion but there is a border line between a good comment and a babyish remark.

shabaash

 

[Jimmy two-times]

What is the point of arguing in such a babyish manner against each other? AJ for once agree that Malik played well and admit that at least some of your accusations regarding his technique were proved wrong today rather than jumping at others for no reason and lets all acknowledge the fact that compared to other bowlers Shoaib did well and lets stop these anti-malik and anti-akthar posts! Agreed that everyone is entitled to their own opinion but there is a border line between a good comment and a babyish remark.

subhanallah well said

 

[Gasherbrum]

he's right. larai jhagra band karo, kabab khao.

 

[in_cutter]

he's right. larai jhagra band karo, kabab khao.

khush khush ho kei doner kebab kao

 

[Easa]

nice shoaib and shoaib, why is everybody bashing the latter, i dont see whats wrong with 1-50 of 15 overs in a typical pakistani batting paradise!

 

[Amjid Javed]

What is the point of arguing in such a babyish manner against each other? AJ for once agree that Malik played well and admit that at least some of your accusations regarding his technique were proved wrong today rather than jumping at others for no reason and lets all acknowledge the fact that compared to other bowlers Shoaib did well and lets stop these anti-malik and anti-akthar posts! Agreed that everyone is entitled to their own opinion but there is a border line between a good comment and a babyish remark.

Whats new today? nothing!

Pakistan players are mediocre for ages then have one good game and bang... we have the next hanif muhammed, saeed anwar etc..

sami will perform in one game and he will be proclaimed the next waqar. Despite fact hes been poor in test cricket for years.

razzaq will peform for one game and will be proclaimed the next imran khan.
Despite fact hes been poor in test cricket for years.

am not surprised there is overboard reaction to maliks knock today. am sure like salman butt was likened to saeed anwar, malik is now the next hanif muhammed.

do the names ali naqvi, Mohammad Naveed, Manzoor Akhtar, Imran Abbas, qaiser Abbas ring a bell?

1) This is not a test match. ( even so i the fact maliks done well mashallah)

2) The wicket by all accounts is flat and slow. even the likes of a ganguly, hafeez am sure would look great on such surfaces.

Ive said it b4 and il say it wait till we play on more lively surfaces then will see which of are players are flat asain track bullies and which are not. So many of are batsmen have scored vast runs on placid tracks in faisalbad, mumbai and galle etc.. yet as soon as they have played at headingley, perth, wellington, joburg etc they have been made to look foolish.

If malik goes on to be a good opener then good. great for pakistan.

However comments interms of maliks proved he can play short ball or can play on lively wickets has not been dismissed at all.

Players underperform for years, yet they have 1 good games and they have proved the doubters wrong. really shows the consistancy level some pakistan fans look at. 1 good game and we are a team of world beaters.

If a player can perform consistanly game afta game, series afta series with a high degree of consistancy then we have hope.

 

[Mercenary]

AJ I cant understand why you can never admit you went a little overboard in your criticism? I've admitted that I've been wrong about YK, Akmal and Malik in the past.

It's all a part of the speculation involved in being a Pak cricket fan, yet whenever you find yourself proven wrong you start attacking the other person rather than admit your views were rather one-sided.

As for going crazy over 'one performance' I remember on the old SN when Afridi did an excellent job with the ball and you started saying 'well done Afridi' (back in the day you didnt want him in the ODI or Test squads) and then in the same match he failed with the bat and you got back on his case again!! Then you said you'd give Sami six months to prove himself after he bowled well vs Aus A but you started attacking him again before the week was out!!

How consistent was that?

Maybe you should just chill and if you weren't so extreme in your criticism in the first place then you wouldnt have to climb down from a mountain each time you're proven wrong. As you have experienced with Rana and Afridi in the past.

Just a bit of positive criticism from me, take it or leave it as you wish!

 

[MCMLXXXII]

This isn't even a domestic match! At the PCB site its classified under "Other Matches"!

 

[Monsee]

AJ I cant understand why you can never admit you went a little overboard in your criticism? I've admitted that I've been wrong about YK, Akmal and Malik in the past.

It's all a part of the speculation involved in being a Pak cricket fan, yet whenever you find yourself proven wrong you start attacking the other person rather than admit your views were rather one-sided.

As for going crazy over 'one performance' I remember on the old SN when Afridi did an excellent job with the ball and you started saying 'well done Afridi' (back in the day you didnt want him in the ODI or Test squads) and then in the same match he failed with the bat and you got back on his case again!! Then you said you'd give Sami six months to prove himself after he bowled well vs Aus A but you started attacking him again before the week was out!!

How consistent was that?

Maybe you should just chill and if you weren't so extreme in your criticism in the first place then you wouldnt have to climb down from a mountain each time you're proven wrong. As you have experienced with Rana and Afridi in the past.

Just a bit of positive criticism from me, take it or leave it as you wish!

Now he will attack Merc rather than tackling the issue or god forbid accepting his mistake

Then people wonder why I picked on him like that...I have been there enough times to know the outcome

 

[sehsan]

monsee, chora yarr.....larai karney ka koi point nahi hai

 

[Mercenary]

also monsee you're no angel yourself (neither am I) when it comes to Akhtar so lets just let this one pass, maybe AJ will change.

 

[Saj]

AJ and Monsee, this thread is the most popular and probably most interesting thread of today, as it relates to a very important match in Pak's preparation of the series against England. I do not want it ruined by you two arguing so stop NOW!

 

[Shayan_Sohail]

Great performances by Malik, Younus, Moyo and Akhtar.

I dont understand how 1-50 of 15 overs on a pitch that was obviousoy a belter is bad.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Great performances by Malik, Younus, Moyo and Akhtar.

I dont understand how 1-50 of 15 overs on a pitch that was obviousoy a belter is bad.

akthar shud have bowled 33 overs today non-stop and should have taken all 10 wickets, also fielded like like jonty rhodes. Thats only way some fans are happy.

 

[sehsan]

amjid: now you are exaggerating it

 

[kas]

tomorow will be a crucial day for pakistan's chances. the reasons is because inzi,kamal and akmal need time in the middle as recently they have been in poor form. all 3 of them need at least half centuries so that their confidence can be raised. if kamal and akmal go into eng series short of runs then i can see them struggle with the bat.

also tomorow rest of pak might bat as well and its important that farhat continues his good form and makes a good score. in that way we will have two openers(malik and farhat) who might set a decent foundation for the middle order to build on.

hopefully one of the seamers ie rana or sami can get a few wickets too.

its all about confidence in my opinion.the team needs to believe in their ability

 

[sehsan]

kas: ver well said, its very important for kamal, sami and rana to do well now

 

[MWH]

Malik looks to have cemented his place at no.1 - well done to him.

On the subject of 12th men, as this is only a practice game surely they could have allowed Shahid Nazir to bowl as well as field in place of a batsman during the inngs - this way everyone would have got a chance to stake a claim.

 

[kas]

Malik looks to have cemented his place at no.1 - well done to him.

On the subject of 12th men, as this is only a practice game surely they could have allowed Shahid Nazir to bowl as well as field in place of a batsman during the inngs - this way everyone would have got a chance to stake a claim.

i think he was injured to a certain extent cos he was in a car crash recently. maybe that played a part??

 

[MWH]

Quite possible actually now that you mention it, Kas. I had forgotten about that.

 

[Raz]

AJ and Monsee, this thread is the most popular and probably most interesting thread of today, as it relates to a very important match in Pak's preparation of the series against England. I do not want it ruined by you two arguing so stop NOW!

The boss has spoken! Take heed!

 

[kas]

Could Noddy bhai tell us abit about the pitch?

can any1 plz tell me which ex cricketer noddy is? and who does he get all the info from? does he have any contact with players

 

[Raz]

can any1 plz tell me which ex cricketer noddy is? and who does he get all the info from? does he have any contact with players

No can do im afraid. No one knows this!